#instantbird log on 05 09 2014

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02:13:00 <instant-buildbot> build #1366 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1366
02:28:44 <clokep> nhtn11: Not yet.
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03:31:22 <instant-buildbot> build #2138 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2138
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08:23:08 <flo-retina> aleth++ the throbbers are awesome! :)
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08:29:13 <flo-retina> We really need to find the cause of the updater bug that makes it download a complete update, fail to apply it, then download a partial and succeed.
08:29:32 <flo-retina> it's really annoying to have to wait for a 40+MB download before it actually starts downloading the 3MB update that actually works
08:29:50 <flo-retina> (not to mention the wasted bandwidth on our servers if everybody does that...)
08:31:40 <flo-retina> Mic: I see clokep and mayanktg were discussing webrtc plans yesterday. Is there an etherpad somewhere?
08:34:52 <flo-retina> I remember seeing "this.contact is undefined" a while ago (re bug 1007602), but I can't remember the context / if we have fixed it or just never figured out the cause
08:34:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1007602 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Contacts window does not change after unmark "show offline contacts"
08:36:17 <flo-retina> ah, bug 980089
08:36:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=980089 maj, --, 1.6, florian, RESO FIXED, this.contact is undefined error each time a contact is removed from the list displayed in the contac
08:37:38 <instantbot> florian@queze.net changed the Resolution on bug 1007602 from --- to DUPLICATE.
08:37:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1007602 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Contacts window does not change after unmark "show offline contacts"
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09:16:46 <Mic> flo-retina: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-webrtc
09:17:00 <Mic> That's been there before the discussion already.
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09:52:14 * flo-retina has received 10 additional blog URLs :)
09:52:46 <flo-retina> too bad I didn't say in my email that they should also remind me the name of their project along with the URL, now I've got to guess who is who :-D
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10:21:50 <flo-retina> Mic: this pad really doesn't look like a schedule :(
10:21:58 <flo-retina> nor like a todo list
10:22:30 <flo-retina> but thanks for the link anyway :)
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10:41:06 <sawrubh> clokep: yo! (from an exam free sawrubh :D )
10:41:15 <clokep> sawrubh: Congrats. :)
10:41:16 <sawrubh> time to kodez, yayz
10:41:19 <flo-retina> :)
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10:47:58 <flo-retina> clokep, aleth: my error console contains plenty of http://pastebin.instantbird.com/701771
10:48:17 <clokep> Uh oh. :-\
10:48:22 <clokep> Did I break something yesterday.
10:48:51 * flo-retina wonders if there's a reasonably easy way to add tests there :-]
10:49:19 <clokep> flo-retina: It's a copy and mistake error.
10:49:24 <clokep> It needs to be aOldNick.
10:49:29 <clokep> I'll patch it some time today.
10:49:54 <flo-retina> clokep: it definitely seemed like a trivial mistake. Aren't tests expected to be there to help us catch these? ;)
10:51:37 <clokep> flo-retina: I don't understand why you think I'm arguing against tests. :-S
10:53:10 <flo-retina> clokep: I wouldn't go as far as saying you are arguing. "flo-retina: It's a copy and mistake error." vaguely felt like you could be saying "oh this is just a small error let's fix it [and forget]"
10:53:33 <clokep> I was just saying I found what the error was from...
10:53:43 <flo-retina> I was just reinforcing that I want us to have a better test coverage eventually :)
10:54:32 <flo-retina> clokep: right, I slightly misunderstood on my first reading, sorry :)
10:54:56 <clokep> I don't know how to write tests for a lot of the IRC code. :-\
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10:55:09 <clokep> I guess that we'd have to set up channels and pump messages in and ensure you end up with the right channel state after.
10:55:30 <aleth> You'd pretty much need a fakeserver.
10:55:41 <EionRobb> you could turn instantbird into an irc server and use itself to test itself :P
10:56:50 <clokep> aleth: Yeah, which is annoying. . .
10:57:00 <aleth> Very...
10:57:08 <clokep> EionRobb: That's how TB tests the IMAP/SMTP/POP code. ;)
10:57:39 <clokep> EionRobb: If you make any headway on that protobuf/JSON stuff for Hangouts I'd love to know. :)
10:59:25 <EionRobb> sure thing :)
10:59:45 <EionRobb> there was some PR stuff from facebook though about them shutting down their xmpp gateway :(
11:00:14 <EionRobb> so I might be working on that again, next
11:00:17 <EionRobb> https://twitter.com/lgladdy/status/463790866247585792/photo/1
11:00:18 <flo-retina> clokep: can't we initialized some internal IRC structures to some coherent values, and then just parse some arbitrarily crafted messages, and check that the correct side effects happened?
11:00:24 <flo-retina> *initialize
11:00:26 <aleth> nhnt11: Spotted this on #maildev http://jsfiddle.net/mVRsU/2/ ... maybe JosiahOne is trying to solve the same problem you solved?
11:01:12 <aleth> You could ping him and exchange notes (especially as that code is now unforked and he may not have noticed ;) )
11:01:15 <clokep> EionRobb: That's unfortunate, but not surprising. :(
11:01:27 <clokep> flo-retina: Yes, the question is...which is less work. ;)
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11:01:44 <clokep> aleth, nhnt11: He pinged me yesterday, I wasn't here though.
11:02:14 <flo-retina> clokep: I see the question as: is not having a fake server (yet) a good excuse for not testing these areas at all? (you can guess my answer ;))
11:02:43 <clokep> flo-retina: I agree that that etherpad doesn't look like much of a schedule. I was trying to push it in that direction...
11:02:43 <flo-retina> EionRobb: I dislike the "We're making these changes to help give people more control about the information they share with apps." part
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11:29:40 <aleth> nhnt11: Ah, I guess it's only unforked in the tooltip, not in the conversation.
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12:03:09 <clokep_work> nhnt11: So I did read your etherpad...didn't seem to be much of a work breakdown IMO.
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12:08:13 <aleth> mayanktg: what's up with your webcam patch?
12:09:40 <mayanktg> Hello. I will upload the patch tomorrow. I was merging the js file into blist.js. 
12:15:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Bah the tree is closed. :(
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12:21:13 <clokep_work> sawrubh: So you're free now...any chance we can take a look at some of the community bonding stuff we were hoping you would do?
12:21:34 <clokep_work> There's about a week and a half left. It'd be great if we could knock off that todo list. :)
12:23:30 <sawrubh> clokep_work: yeah, I was planning to take a look at those in an hour or so
12:29:25 <clokep_work> sawrubh: Excellent. I look forward to it.
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13:09:34 <nhnt11_phone> clokep_work: whatever breakup I've done is in the proposal, not the etherpad
13:11:12 <clokep_work> nhnt11_phone: Yeah, I realized that later. I think that looks pretty reasonable.
13:11:19 <clokep_work> All that we need now is to start coding. ;)
13:11:52 <nhnt11_phone> Great!
13:12:43 <nhnt11_phone> 1 more week :)
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13:13:25 <clokep_work> Alright. It might make sense to start working on some of the logger clean up stuff while the discussion of how indexing should work is goign on btw. :)
13:13:32 <clokep_work> Don't want you twiddling thumbs while waiting forus.
13:14:20 * nhnt11_phone is certainly not twiddling his thumbs
13:14:26 <nhnt11_phone> Exams... ;)
13:15:03 <aleth> Twiddling exams ;)
13:15:14 <nhnt11_phone> lol
13:15:55 <nhnt11_phone> Bye
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13:31:55 <clokep_work> sawrubh: It's been an hour! :P
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15:12:56 <qheaden> Hello everyone.
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15:22:20 <clokep_work> Hello. :)
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15:32:43 <qheaden> clokep_work: With IRC, when you type "/join #room1,#room2", is there any reason why room is put on hold and only room2 shows?
15:33:19 <qheaden> It would be nice to have both tabs up together.
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15:36:31 <flo-retina> aleth: http://i.imgur.com/Ty1aYHn.png :(
15:37:17 <flo-retina> qheaden: "room1" isn't "put on hold". It's just that we join all the rooms, then focus the last one in the list.
15:37:29 <flo-retina> and focusing a room puts it out of hold
15:40:28 <qheaden> Ah okay. Makes sense.
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18:06:23 <clokep_work> qheaden: Ah, I just saw this. :( Sorry.
18:06:34 <clokep_work> We had a debate about whether to use the first or last one here.
18:06:42 <clokep_work> I lost. ;)
18:06:49 <clokep_work> But focusing them all in series sounds wrong.
18:07:11 <clokep_work> I had neither go on hold though when I did tha....do you have an extensions.
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18:30:07 <qheaden> clokep_work: Strange. I had all but the last one go on hold.
18:30:23 <clokep_work> qheaden: DO you have any extensions that touch new conversations?
18:30:31 <clokep_work> Like Do Not Disturb?
18:30:35 <qheaden> No. I don';t have any extensions installed.
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19:27:08 <clokep_work> qheaden: :-\ I don't know then.
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20:01:07 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it's not strange. It's just that the channel was on hold the last time he joined it.
20:01:34 <flo-retina> and we are back to my pet bug we were trying to fix at the time by focusing the joined channel ;)
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