#instantbird log on 05 08 2014

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02:14:03 <instant-buildbot> build #1365 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1365
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03:29:55 <instant-buildbot> build #2137 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2137
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06:44:06 <DGMurdockIII> hey guy
06:44:08 <DGMurdockIII> s
06:44:54 <DGMurdockIII> one big missing fiture is the support of gfire
06:46:26 <DGMurdockIII> and https://code.google.com/p/msn-pecan/
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11:15:06 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Contacts window bug 1007602 filed by zefilipe.groups@gmail.com.
11:15:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1007602 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Contacts window does not change after unmark "show offline contacts"
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12:32:27 topic changed by concrete.mozilla.org to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.5! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org"
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12:54:24 <clokep_work> aleth: ping
12:54:49 <clokep_work> Is http://pastebin.instantbird.com/700725 clear enough?
12:55:22 <aleth> Yes, thanks
12:55:53 <clokep_work> Excellent.
12:56:05 <aleth> Land all the things!
12:56:25 <clokep_work> I want to, but there are unstarred oranges.
12:56:28 <clokep_work> ANd I'm tired of starring them. :P
12:56:54 <aleth> Yeah... it's really a bad state for things to be in.
12:58:06 <aleth> Tests that fail intermittently or all the time
12:59:18 <clokep_work> Luckily one has been fixed. :-D
13:01:47 <aleth> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=984194 :-/
13:01:52 <instantbot> Bug 984194 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Perma-orange on Thunderbird-Trunk: TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /builds/slave/test/build/xpcshell/tests/ur
13:10:09 <clokep_work> Has anyone seen 10:08.64 make[6]: *** No rule to make target `/Users/pcloke/mozilla/comm-central/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/tests/PrimitiveTest.c', needed by `PrimitiveTest.o'.  Stop.
13:10:09 <clokep_work> ?
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13:31:05 <aleth> clokep_work: is it a new failure?
13:35:16 <clokep_work> aleth: I haven't seen it before here, I just did a clobber.
13:40:21 <clokep_work> aleth: clobber fixed it.
13:41:00 <aleth> :)
13:41:08 <aleth> Was wondering why it wasn't apparent in nightlies.
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14:08:51 <clokep_work> That made me mq a lot smaller. :-D
14:08:56 <clokep_work> Thanks for the reviews aleth.
14:11:11 <flo-retina> :)
14:12:07 <aleth> It's good to clear up the mq by landing especially if it has to be in a particular order ;)
14:18:31 <clokep_work> Yeah, that's why I didn't just put checkin-needed.
14:20:10 <clokep_work> aleth: So there were concerns about defaulting the error message or something in the XMPP code IIRC?
14:20:25 <clokep_work> The onError call.
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14:24:12 <aleth> It seems really weird to pass null as an error. That seems really fragile if it actually happens.
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14:28:00 <clokep_work> I agree. :-\
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14:55:58 <clokep_work> aleth: I saw your throbbers for a split second. ;)
14:56:01 <clokep_work> Looks nice. . .
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18:23:56 <mayanktg> Mic: Hello . Are you free now?
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18:24:25 <Mic> Oh, hi!
18:25:02 <Mic> Unfortunately not. I need to fix dinner and will be away later :S
18:25:33 <mayanktg> Can we discuess about my coding period commitments?
18:25:37 <Mic> You're leaving tomorrow and will have flaky internet during the next weeks?
18:25:38 <mayanktg> ok ok :)
18:26:16 <mayanktg> Mic: I would be leaving tomorrow. would be having flaky internet just for two days while I'll be in train
18:27:05 <Mic> Ah, that sounded worse when reading your email ;)
18:28:01 <mayanktg> I told I would be having weak internet during the journey :P .I should have been more precised :-|
18:29:15 <clokep_work> mayanktg: If you need I'll be here to talk.
18:29:31 <clokep_work> Don't want Mic to burn his dinner. ;)
18:29:35 <mayanktg> Mic: we can divide the work into patches for every weak. could you help me in doing that?
18:30:08 <clokep_work> mayanktg: It's probably best to divide it into logic work, i.e. patches, but not think about it on a weekly basis.
18:30:10 <Mic> I'd rather split the work into pieces and see how much time every one might need?
18:30:14 <clokep_work> Some patches might take 2 days, others might take two weeks.
18:30:16 <clokep_work> :)
18:30:20 <Mic> clokep_work++ :)
18:30:41 <mayanktg> clokep_work: yes! I had my last dinner as a Junior in college :D 
18:30:41 <mayanktg> Ok. 
18:32:22 <mayanktg> Then we should make a list of to-dos for the coding period and work on that. On the etherpad? 
18:33:41 <clokep_work> Yes.
18:33:53 <clokep_work> That's pretty much how sawrubh and I set up his work schedule.
18:34:56 <mayanktg> That's great :) the one for Community Bonding period? or for Coding Period also?
18:35:10 <clokep_work> The community bonding period is over soon?
18:35:12 <clokep_work> When's it over?
18:35:21 <clokep_work> Let's do both. :)
18:36:17 <mayanktg> Hehe..cool :) 
18:37:44 <clokep_work> mayanktg: So focus your work schedule on end products not on "research", e.g. "Create basic UI to start a voice/video conversation"
18:40:38 <mayanktg> Ok. I will be writing down points needed for the project. please add/edit if I'm wrong or missing something
18:40:55 <clokep_work> WIll do.
18:41:18 <mayanktg> btw. how to add disable Webcam when a person clicks outside the panel and the panel gets closed? I mean adding an event when the panel closes upon clicking outside the box.
18:41:41 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Let's focus on one thing at a time, K? :)
18:41:55 <clokep_work> (I'm already focusing on three things, can't handle more!)
18:42:04 <mayanktg> Yes. ok ok :)
18:48:30 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Remember, split up the work into logical steps.
18:48:42 <clokep_work> I.e. what's the minimum amount of work you can that has a result?
18:48:48 <clokep_work> That you can then build on to do something else.
18:49:03 <clokep_work> What is "Media Signaling Discovery"?
18:49:10 <clokep_work> Is that the protocol parts (e.g. XMPP)?
18:50:41 <mayanktg> Yes
18:51:41 <mayanktg> Its when a user connects to xmpp account the media device information would also be transferred along with http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0030.html
18:52:45 <clokep_work> mayanktg: "    Implement basic voice/video chat. Create basic UI for the same." isn't that your whole project pretty much? :P
18:52:48 <clokep_work> Break that down into smaller steps!
18:53:10 <mayanktg> heh. Ok
18:56:18 <mayanktg> Firstly I have to make a working demo for it. i.e. one which contains basic make/reject voice call support.
18:56:42 <clokep_work> What does "basic" mean?
18:56:50 <clokep_work> I see those as different steps btw.
18:56:56 <clokep_work> First...just have the ability to make a call.
18:56:59 <clokep_work> No ability to accept one.
18:57:04 <clokep_work> Then eventually add the ability to accept one.
18:57:11 <clokep_work> No demos.
18:57:13 <clokep_work> Just do it.
18:57:21 <mayanktg> ok.
18:58:14 <clokep_work> (I mean demos are good if you want to play w/ things...but don't thinkabout it as building a separate app or whatever.)
18:58:27 <clokep_work> I.e. "demo" by hard coding some values and stuff. Don't try to build it all at once.
18:58:32 <clokep_work> Does that make sense or am I just being confusing?
18:59:31 <mayanktg> clokep_work: I was told earlier that we should first have a working copy of the same such that we can keep on adding features to it with time. 
19:01:10 <mayanktg> for eg. add voice/video support --> then add media signalling to it --> Improve the  UI --> add TURN and STUN servers --> chat logs etc... that's what I represented in the proposal. 
19:01:53 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Maybe I don't understand what "add voice/video support" means to you then. To me that means everything you just listed. :-S
19:02:23 <mayanktg> No you aren't confusing me :-/ . Just correct me if I;m worng :-)
19:02:54 <mayanktg> clokep_work: yes. I wrote it confusing enough :-/
19:03:13 <clokep_work> I agree those are all separate features btw. :)
19:04:34 <clokep_work> mayanktg: So can you describe what your first step means? "add voice/video support"?
19:05:00 <mayanktg> clokep_work: You do your work. I'll have to think more on it. Will update it with a good description 
19:05:08 <mayanktg> Yes.! 
19:05:30 <mayanktg> :)
19:05:37 * clokep_work is in a conference call. ;)
19:07:01 <clokep_work> mayanktg: So I think by that you mean "Add a button to the UI that pops up a window (or some UI to be determined) and starts the WebRTC stuff"?
19:08:19 <mayanktg> regarding the set image using webcam? No. I need to stop the webcam the user Icon panel is closed 
19:08:44 <mayanktg> *No. I need to stop the webcam *whenever* the user Icon panel is closed 
19:09:43 <mayanktg> The problem is that. the webcam remains in streaming mode if the panel is closed if someone clicks outside the box/
19:14:56 <Mic> mayanktg: try onpopuphiding.
19:15:30 <Mic> Or is it "onpopupclosing"? Anyways, there's an event when the popup is about to be closed.
19:15:46 <Mic> You might want to clean up things then (e.g. stop the webcam recording).
19:15:56 <Mic> Try MDN. I need to go.
19:15:56 <mayanktg> Mic: Understood :) its onpopuphiding only
19:16:06 <Mic> Thanks for your help, clokep_work!
19:19:51 <mayanktg> Mic: solved :)
19:28:50 <Mook_as> might want onpopuphidden instead (so you don't actually show it removed, then hide the panel)
19:38:22 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Well...I guess let me know when you work on that list of work a bit, it'd be nice to have something planned out "sooN" though. 
19:38:27 <clokep_work> I know it isn't as much fun as working onc ode...
19:39:12 <mayanktg> clokep_work: Yes for sure.
19:41:33 * clokep_work would like to see a better plan by nhnt11 too.
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23:59:01 <nhnt11> clokep: Have you seen the breakup that's in my proposal?
23:59:18 <nhnt11> I'm not saying it can't be split up even further, but it's a good start I think :)