#instantbird log on 05 01 2014

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01:43:34 <dew> did you good a GSoC student for this year?
01:43:55 <clokep> dew: We have three.
01:44:07 <clokep> dew: http://blog.instantbird.org/2014/04/google-summer-of-code-2014-has-commenced/
01:45:05 <dew> awesome!
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01:45:49 <clokep> Yeah, we're pretty excited.
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03:27:47 <instant-buildbot> build #2129 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2129
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13:11:53 <flo-retina> hello :)
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13:19:49 <clokep_work> Good morning / afternoon / evening!
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13:27:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: How's your day off? :P
13:28:03 <flo-retina> it was sunny this morning
13:28:30 <flo-retina> I went to the flea market in my neighborhood, and then drove to a much larger one
13:28:46 <flo-retina> now I'm very hungry (about to have lunch at 3pm :-]) and there's a storm outside
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15:31:11 * clokep_work just had someone email him about where auto-link is hosted. ;)
15:31:15 <clokep_work> SO I pushed it to bitbucket.
15:43:24 <aleth> auto-link?
15:44:43 <clokep_work> aleth: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/245
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15:45:55 * aleth is surprised that has 415 downloads
15:49:21 <clokep_work> aleth: Have you nevver seen that before? :-S
15:49:24 <clokep_work> And yes, me too. ;)
15:49:46 <aleth> No, I never knew about that one.
15:49:59 <aleth> There's probably lots of add-ons that I've not seen...
15:50:06 <aleth> Btw you need to version bump it
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15:53:00 <clokep_work> Must have been before your time. :)
15:53:11 <clokep_work> aleth: That's what he was saying...I don't know if it's broken or just a version bump.
15:54:24 <flo-retina> wow https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/images/p/782/1278680787
15:54:34 <flo-retina> seeing the old tabs there makes me travel back in time!
15:54:54 <flo-retina> hmm, and this also seems to be before message themes!
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15:55:56 <flo-retina> I changed the tabs in August 2009. And the message theme, I implemented a few months before that
15:56:12 <flo-retina> hmm, but maybe the screenshot was taken on whatever was the current release at the time (ie. 0.1.3)
15:56:48 <aleth> It must predate instantbot by quite some time...
15:57:42 <flo-retina> Morian really got involved (ie. wrote code) during the 2009 summer.
16:00:39 <clokep_work> aleth: IIRC I wanted auto-link to link Bugzilla bugs in #maildev and Instantbird bugs in #instantbird and Komodo bugs in #komodo and Pidgin issues in #pidgin, etc.
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17:25:21 <Mic> mayanktg: what's your current status with the user icon bug? Did aleth suggestions help to explore some ways to do that?
17:27:53 <mayanktg> Mic: Yes, I'm able to capture that image from the image tag. I'm trying to use this to save this now. :)
17:27:57 <clokep_work> arlolra: So I looked over your changes and overall I think they look pretty reasonable from a design POV. A bunch of nits and such would need to be fixed, but I'm not concerned about that. flo-web really needs to give this a good review, hopefully he'll have time soon.
17:28:36 <aleth> clokep_work: What's the bug number for that again?
17:28:50 <flo-web> clokep_work: hopefully I'll have a working machine :-/.
17:29:25 <Mic> mayanktg: which way to store the data did you choose?
17:30:06 <arlolra> clokep_work: thanks. let me know about that nits
17:30:11 <clokep_work> aleth: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983347
17:30:14 <instantbot> Bug 983347 nor, --, ---, arlolra, ASSI, Need different paths for displaying to the screen and sending over the wire
17:30:17 <aleth> Thanks
17:31:49 <mayanktg> Mic: I'm trying to get the File object and then save it to disk using the OS.File methods as aleth suggested . I guess _saveIcon method won't work here because we are not streaming data 
17:32:42 <Mic> How do you get a file object from the canvas data? Do you have some WIP code uploaded somewhere?
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17:34:10 <aleth> mayanktg: You can actually get the data as a stream from the canvas if you want.
17:34:34 <mayanktg> aleth: using toBlob only?
17:34:45 <aleth> No, using canvas.mozFetchAsStream
17:35:07 <aleth> But it might not be the most convenient route to go.
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17:35:24 <mayanktg> aleth: but it has been marked depreciated ..
17:35:51 <aleth> really?
17:36:31 <mayanktg> aleth: In the doc it says that it is not standardized and it may only be called from chrome code
17:36:51 <aleth> mayanktg: "chrome code" is what you are writing ;)
17:37:10 <aleth> What that means is that you can't call it from JS in a web page ("content")
17:37:36 <mayanktg> aleth: Ok!
17:38:23 <aleth> But you should definitely use OS.File if you can rather than NetUtil methods.
17:40:02 <mayanktg> yes. I'm trying that. The example explains using the image and then storing it in another <img> . But I will have to use OS.File methods to use this to save the image to disk. 
17:41:16 <aleth> You don't need the <img> as an intermediate step.
17:41:54 <aleth> Just a series of bytes you can write to disk ;)
17:42:44 <mayanktg> aleth: yes :)
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18:02:40 <Mic> mayanktg: I think part of the problem and confusion is, that there are too many possible solutions floating around at the moment.
18:03:09 <Mic> I think we should rather point you in the right direction (decide which way to use to store the image) and let you figure out the details along that way.
18:04:47 <mayanktg> Mic: yes. I guess OS.File method is the best method until now to use. I'm not sure though.
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18:06:56 <Mic> I think you could do the following:
18:06:56 <Mic> Get the canvas data using toBlob(), read the data from the Blob into an ArrayBuffer using FileReader, create and ArrayBufferView on it that can be passed to OS.File.write().
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18:08:34 <Mic> aleth, clokep_work: would be great if you'd had opinions on this?
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18:10:44 <clokep_work> Mic: Looking at docs...
18:11:55 <clokep_work> Mic: Why do you need to use FileReader?
18:12:23 <clokep_work> Oh, Blob is a class. I see. :)
18:12:25 <Mic> The docs are saying somwhere that this is the only way to get data from a Blob.
18:12:54 <clokep_work> Yes, sorry. :)
18:13:01 <Mic> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Blob#Example_for_extracting_data_from_a_Blob
18:16:57 <clokep_work> Yes.
18:16:59 <clokep_work> That sounds reasonable.
18:17:04 <clokep_work> Bah callback hell right here.
18:17:05 <Mic> Cool!
18:17:15 <Mic> mayanktg: ^
18:17:19 <mayanktg> Mic: ok. 
18:17:19 <mayanktg> * FileReader.readAsArrayBuffer to read the data
18:17:19 <mayanktg> * Use ArrayBufferView to view contents of ArrayBuffer
18:17:19 <mayanktg> * OS.File.writeAtomic() to wtire data atomically to file
18:17:46 * clokep_work isn't sure if you need write or writeAtomic.
18:17:54 <clokep_work> I'm not sure what the difference is without looking again.
18:17:55 * Mic neither...
18:17:57 <clokep_work> But overall that seems right. :)
18:18:22 <clokep_work> Ah, writeAtomic writes to a tmp file and then moves it there, that seems fine.
18:18:35 <mayanktg> clokep_work: yes. I'm not sure either. There wasn't OS.File.write() :P 
18:18:49 <Mic> mayanktg: it's there.
18:18:52 <clokep_work> mayanktg: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_OS.File/OS.File_for_the_main_thread#write%28%29
18:18:54 <clokep_work> It's for instances.
18:18:59 <clokep_work> You have to create an OS.File first.
18:19:08 <mayanktg> ok 
18:20:26 <Mic> mayanktg: if there are problems while implementing this, don't hesitate to ask.
18:21:20 <mayanktg> Mic: yes. 
18:21:25 <Mic> I saw on the logs that there was a problem with the idea of callbacks.
18:21:39 <clokep_work> mayanktg: It might make sense to break up your work into separate chunks too. I.e. chunk one is "get the image from the webcam" done. OK.
18:21:44 <clokep_work> chunk two is now "save that data"
18:21:55 <Mic> Not knowing what a callback is not a problem as long as you ask. Being stuck on not knowing is a problem though ;)
18:24:32 <mayanktg> Mic: yes that was weird :( I was hesitant after the last !seen msg. Had a bad day :P
18:25:10 <mayanktg> I'm getting back to work, Will read the docs, try and post my progress
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19:07:53 <flo-linux> Instantbird doesn't look so bad on Linux. Once it actually starts ;)
19:08:06 <clokep_work> :)
19:08:15 <flo-linux> 20140303041310 :-/
19:09:41 <clokep_work> You never answered my email. ;) I Was willing to champion.
19:10:08 <flo-linux> I know :(
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19:19:42 <Mic> mayanktg: you're doing fine so far?
19:21:15 <mayanktg> `Mic: yes, created an readAsBuffer to read the data of the blob
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20:50:45 <Mic> mayanktg: I'll go to bed soon. Could you pastebin a WIP somewhere, so I can see if there's some feedback that I could give right away?
20:54:00 <mayanktg> Mic: Just tell how to use ArrayBufferVIew https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/ArrayBufferView
20:55:19 <Mic> I'd try:
20:56:01 <Mic> let myArrayBufferView = new ArrayBufferView(arrayBuffer);
20:58:47 <mayanktg> ok
20:59:06 <Mic> Would you paste it anyways? I'd like to see how you got along with the FileReader stuff...
20:59:17 <mayanktg> yes
21:01:41 <mayanktg> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/692257
21:02:07 <clokep_work> Mic, mayanktg: Yes, that's the proper way to use ArrayBufferView IIRC. Although ArrayBufferView might be abstract.
21:03:12 <Mic> clokep_work: I saw the note on the docs. It sounded like it is possible to use it like this but not what one usually would want to do...
21:03:45 <mayanktg> What do we mean by InstanceOfFileReader?
21:04:16 <mayanktg> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FileReader.readAsArrayBuffer in the Syntax
21:04:37 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Do you know what an "instance" of a class is?
21:04:53 <clokep_work> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instance_%28computer_science%29
21:04:53 <mayanktg> yes 
21:05:06 <clokep_work> OK. so it's saying an instance of the FileReader class.
21:05:21 <clokep_work> I.e. it's not a class method, it's an instance method.
21:06:56 <mayanktg> Mic: please ignore the line buddy._saveicon ... accidently left it there :-/
21:07:06 <mayanktg> clokep_work: ok. got it
21:07:37 * clokep_work needs to get going.
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21:15:26 <Mic> Sidenote: please use the diff-format when uploading WIPs, it makes it a lot easier to see what's added, where it is been added and so on.
21:17:44 <Mic> In the callback of toBlob(), you need to create an instance of a FileReader (remember that this is the only way that you can call readAsArrayBuffer) and in the handler for the event that is fired when loading has finished, you need to do the other work with ArrayBufferView and storing the file eventually).
21:18:28 <Mic> Instances of classes are created with the keyword "new" (e.g. in the code above I created a new instance of the ArrayBufferView class).
21:19:00 <Mic> Well, it's rather an operator than a keyword iirc... ;)
21:22:49 <Mic> mayanktg: don't be surprised when the code will look "unusual" because of the callbacks and event handlers...
21:25:50 <mayanktg> Mic; ok. found my error.
21:28:07 <Mic> OK
21:28:14 <Mic> Good night!
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21:28:56 <mayanktg> Mic: Goodnight
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22:14:31 <flo-retina> hello :)
22:33:26 <flo-retina> so I've updated XCode, and I no longer have |make| O_o
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23:02:31 <flo-linux> copying a log from mibbit is awful :(
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23:22:13 <clokep> flo-retina: Why would XCode come w/ make? :P
23:22:23 <clokep> I recently updated Python and everything exploded. :(
23:22:29 <clokep> mayanktg so you got it to work!?
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23:25:33 <clokep> flo-retina: Maybe reinstall hte cmd line tools?
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