#instantbird log on 04 30 2014

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03:29:03 <instant-buildbot> build #2128 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2128
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07:17:16 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1003705 filed by philipp@bugzilla.kewis.ch.
07:17:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1003705 nor, --, ---, philipp, ASSI, Unread/Typing/Attention colors are too bright
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08:39:24 <Mic> !seen mayanktg
08:39:25 <instantbot> mayanktg was last seen 1 day, 16 hours, 44 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying 'aleth: Yes, I read it in the morning. I'm using the toBlob() to store in the memory. ' in #instantbird.
08:39:29 <Mic> Hello!
08:40:26 <nhnt11> Hi Mic
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09:29:15 <flo-retina> Fallen: Are the colors in https://bug1003705.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8415052 with your patch applied?
09:29:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1003705 nor, --, ---, philipp, ASSI, Unread/Typing/Attention colors are too bright
09:29:38 <Fallen> flo-retina: yes
09:29:51 <Fallen> same base color, but other shade
09:31:07 <flo-retina> Fallen: seems reasonable to me. And thanks for submitting a patch (rather than an "OMG it hurts my eyes"-style complaint) :-)
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09:32:21 <Fallen> of course, I wouldn't have filed that bug without :-)
09:32:24 <flo-retina> Fallen: about "Not sure how ui-review works for Instantbird". The unwritten rule is basically that I look at any patch changing UX, or localizable strings, or APIs before it's checked in. We don't have any specific flag for that because other reviewers know when they are confident about a patch or want me to have a final look at it.
09:33:19 <Fallen> ok, makes sense :) For the normal reviews, have you considered setting up the "suggested reviewers" feature on a per component basis?
09:33:35 <flo-retina> not sure what we need to do for that.
09:33:38 * nhnt11 likes that screenshot
09:33:44 <flo-retina> I think aleth gets automatically suggested for some patches
09:35:16 <Fallen> file a bug in the bugzilla admin component, mention what reviewers you want for what components. I can't find the calendar bug we had filed right now
09:35:46 <flo-retina> would be nice if that was auto-generated from the module owner list
09:37:03 <Fallen> bug 816228
09:37:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816228 nor, --, ---, dkl, RESO FIXED, Set default requestees for product calendar
09:39:17 * flo-retina wonders why Firefox is downloading 28.4MB to update from 28.0 to 29
09:39:27 <flo-retina> that seems huge for a partial update
09:39:33 <nhnt11> New graphics?
09:47:00 <Fallen> Not sure if its through yet, but they included the ICU data at some point
09:47:23 <Fallen> Maybe also Australis
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10:04:31 <flo-retina> so, now that Australis is released, who's updating our tabs? ;)
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10:59:55 * clokep still kind of dislikes the tab colors altogether. :P
11:00:09 <clokep> Especially the way we use red vs. blue for attention in different situations.
11:06:34 <flo-retina> I refrained from mentioning that. It's a separate issue, and shouldn't stop us from using less eye-catchy colors
11:06:58 <clokep> Oh yeah, I think it's definitely an improvement.
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11:57:13 <aleth_web> The current use of tab colour gets worse the thinner the tab font happens to be...
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12:10:07 <mayanktg> Mic: hello
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12:10:19 <nhnt11> aleth_web: Aren't tab titles *bold* though?
12:14:25 <mayanktg> Mic: I had to submit my minor project in college and the mentor said to do some changes in the last moment.
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12:30:31 <clokep_work> mayanktg: That's OK. :)
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12:33:15 <Mic|mobile> Hi
12:35:39 <Mic|mobile> I'm at work, so I don't have a lot of time, but we should do some planning how we like to do things ...
12:36:11 <mayanktg> Mic: Hello. Exactly I was mailing the same things to the team email
12:38:20 <Mic|mobile> Ok, I'll have a look later. Etherpads are great for collaborating on stuff like that. Maybe check how they did it for the FileLink project...
12:38:33 <Mic|mobile> Gtg
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12:45:30 <clokep_work> mayanktg: I can give you a link to that pad if you don't have it / probably start helping you set things up. Of course you'll want Mic to go over ti too. :)
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12:46:05 <mayanktg> clokep_work: I found it out https://etherpad.mozilla.org/filelink ?? 
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12:49:58 <clokep_work> mayanktg: No.
12:50:09 <clokep_work> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-filelink
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12:51:29 <mayanktg> clokep_work: Ok :)
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13:03:27 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Please post a link if you make one.
13:09:33 <mayanktg> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-webrtc
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13:43:56 <aleth_web> nhnt11: They are on OSX, but not Linux iirc.
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13:56:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: What is gUM?
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13:57:35 <clokep_work> mayanktg: So I'm not your mentor, but I'd suggest focusing on actions that need to get done, i.e. instead of "learn about" stuff, I'd expect more of "provide patch that does xyz"
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14:04:52 <clokep_work> mayanktg: ^ ^
14:06:06 <mayanktg> clokep_work: yes. Even I don't know about gUM. I'll update further after returning from lunch.
14:11:25 <flo-retina> clokep_work: getUserMedia
14:12:11 <flo-retina> I guess I've worked for too long on WebRTC stuff where everybody is familiar with this acronym ;)
14:19:23 <clokep_work> I find all the terminology around the WebRTC stuff consufing.
14:19:25 <clokep_work> confusing
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14:53:30 * flo-retina is confused about the meaning of consufing :-P.
14:54:11 <aleth_web> s/confusing/unfamiliar maybe ;)
14:56:50 <clokep_work> Nah, confusing.
15:02:38 <flo-retina> mayanktg: what do you mean by "Firefox has an option to enable the STUN servers."?
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15:15:02 <flo-retina> mayanktg: and what's the status of bug 975542 ?
15:15:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975542 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Set user icon from image taken with the webcam.
15:18:58 <mayanktg> flo-retina: What I said was one can enable/disable STUN servers in FF.  about:config -  media.peerconnection.default_iceservers;[{"url": "stun:stun.services.mozilla.com"}] 
15:19:19 <flo-retina> so you were repeating what I wrote just before?
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15:20:52 <aleth_web> mayanktg: To clarify, an about:config parameter is not usually called an UI - it's what you do if you don't want to provide an UI for some option ;)
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15:21:27 <flo-retina> aleth_web: he said "option", not "UI" :)
15:22:03 <mayanktg> flo-retina: I'm still stuck with that bug. :-/ Could find a way to store the image into disk.
15:22:26 <flo-retina> why haven't you replied anything to aleth's comment if you are stuck and need help?
15:22:44 <clokep_work> There was an IRC discussion.
15:22:48 <flo-retina> have you investigated the suggestions he offered?
15:23:02 <mayanktg> flo-retina: it's about having a UI for adding TURN server as FF doesn't have one. 
15:25:23 <mayanktg> flo-retina: Yes I did try.. I'm trying to use the toBlob method. I just returned from my college's minor project work.
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15:26:09 <flo-retina> "I did try" what was the result? Were there error messages?
15:27:16 <aleth_web> How are you getting the data out of the Blob and into a file?
15:27:41 <clokep_work> (To be clear, we want to see the code and a pastebin of the error message.)
15:28:28 <mayanktg> flo-retina: yes I'm posting the error message
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15:41:41 <clokep_work> Sure, let us know when you get it up. :)
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16:00:56 <mayanktg> aleth_web: I'm unable to understand anything :'( . here's the pastebin http://pastebin.instantbird.com/690821 I tried to create an object for image and then use toBlob. But the error said it isn't an object.
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16:01:53 <aleth_web> Is the id of your canvas element really "canvas"?
16:02:21 <mayanktg> aleth_web: yes.
16:02:21 <aleth_web> What's the corresponding HTML?
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16:03:14 <aleth_web> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLCanvasElement says the first parameter of toBlob should be a callback
16:04:09 <aleth_web> Do you know what that means?
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16:05:54 <mayanktg> No.
16:06:42 <aleth_web> It means you pass a function as a parameter which is then "called back" when the blob is ready.
16:07:03 <aleth_web> So x.toBlob(function(blob) {...do something with the blob...}, ...)
16:07:49 <mayanktg> like here http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/content/canvas/test/test_toBlob.html?force=1#25 :) Now I understand it somewhat
16:07:50 <aleth_web> This is one of the ways to program asynchronically (i.e. the toBlob call can return immediately and doesn't have to wait until the blob is ready)
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16:08:11 <mayanktg> Ok.
16:09:37 <aleth_web> There's also an example on the page I linked.
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16:37:39 <aleth_web> clokep_work: What was the story with irc link handlers?
16:37:53 <clokep_work> aleth_web: Which part of the story? :P
16:37:55 <aleth_web> How tricky are they to register/handle?
16:38:03 <clokep_work> aleth_web: I don't honestly remember.
16:38:13 <clokep_work> THere's two parts to it though: 1. register them, 2. create links automagically.
16:39:00 <aleth_web> I guess you'd also have to offer to create an account etc which is likely complicated UI-wise
16:39:08 <flo-retina> aleth_web: depends if you are talking about cliking links within Ib or from other applications
16:44:23 <aleth_web> mayanktg: So, are you still stuck now?
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16:48:33 <aleth_web> flo-retina: I was thinking of what would make IB more attractive as a recommendation to complete IRC newbies. "Install IB and then click this link to join our channel"...
16:53:17 <flo-retina> I don't think we want complete newbies here
16:53:31 <flo-retina> we don't want to teach thousands of users what IRC is :-]
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16:55:18 <aleth_web> Well, not *this* channel :P
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16:56:53 <aleth_web> I meant more generally projects with websites which want to link to their IRC channel.
16:56:57 <aleth_web> mozilla and elsewhere.
16:58:54 <clokep_work> aleth_web: Yes, I'd like that.
16:59:01 <clokep_work> The account issue is the one I can't wrap my head around
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18:23:40 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Contacts window bug 1003999 filed by jules.blok@gmail.com.
18:23:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1003999 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, De-emphasize contact list
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20:29:54 <clokep_work> aleth: Can you make sense of this example? :-S https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Proxy#Extending_constructor
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20:35:57 <clokep_work> Or maybe Mook_as ^ I'm wondering how I can proxy something and have a decent constructor for it still.
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20:46:46 <Mook_as> Sorry, I don't _really_ understand them either. :|
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23:24:58 <clokep> Thanks Mook_as.
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