#instantbird log on 04 28 2014

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02:31:37 <instant-buildbot> build #2125 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2125
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08:33:58 * flo-retina fixed the bustage and restarted the Windows and Mac nightlies
08:34:52 <flo-retina> if anybody is curious, the fix is https://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/rev/1e09737d6f8c
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08:44:59 <flo-retina> looks like bug 997906 could have nice memory wins :)
08:45:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=997906 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Reduce per-scope XPCWrappedNative overhead in chrome
08:46:11 <flo-retina> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform "The Mozilla platform (XULRunner)"
08:46:16 <flo-retina> I like that last word of the title ;)
08:48:04 <aleth> but... the web is the platform! ;)
09:02:38 <aleth> Does anyone understand bug 933594?
09:02:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933594 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Status icon in message header missing
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09:18:40 <flo-retina> aleth: I have a vague understanding of what he's talking about, but not enough to make the bug actionable
09:19:16 <Mic> Doesn't TB show when a user is available for IMs?
09:19:40 <flo-retina> it does
09:20:34 <Mic> GMail vs GoogleMail sounds like a GTalk problem :(
09:20:41 <flo-retina> but that will only work if the email address is the same as the jabber id OR if the user has specified in the address book and XMPP or Gtalk id in the same card as this email address
09:20:59 <flo-retina> Mic: I didn't even pickup that part
09:21:18 <flo-retina> Mic: but that whole bug seems about a mismatch between something in the address book and something in the contact list
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09:46:04 <instant-buildbot> build #2126 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2126
09:47:42 <flo-retina> ah, time to update! :)
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10:13:11 <instant-buildbot> build #1346 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1346
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11:29:21 <flo-retina> clokep: "an ISUPPORT response from the server to pure ASCII or RFC 1459 casemapping (A-Z[]\ map to a-z{}|)." is this really what you intended to write?
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11:37:12 <clokep_work> aleth: " What's the difference between this generator and this.buddies.keys()?" getBuddyNames is an array not a generator.
11:38:05 <clokep_work> Although as you said apparently nothing calls it. :-S
11:38:16 <clokep_work> Wonder how that happened...
11:38:46 <aleth> Yeah, that's why I added another comment to make it clearer what I was asking
11:39:11 <aleth> Probably something used to call it?
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11:42:26 <clokep_work> Probably.
11:42:30 <clokep_work> Weird. :-S
11:42:45 <clokep_work> I have a feeling we use it to us it for the pigning to see if people are online.
11:44:00 <clokep_work> Thanks for the reviews. :)
11:44:22 <aleth> Thanks for all the not-quite-search-and-replace :)
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11:52:25 <clokep_work> It wasn't that bad, only when I kept changing the API. :P
11:53:10 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Why would it be weird for an iterators default value to be an array? :-S
11:59:51 <clokep_work> Looks like someone went crazy with renaming macros...on merge day. Interesting.
12:00:10 <aleth> Good timing.
12:01:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: What aprt of the ISUPPORT sentence seems wrong?
12:01:09 <clokep_work> Although the wording seems a bit strange.
12:02:49 * clokep_work re-read it.
12:02:51 <clokep_work> Seems OK to me...
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12:16:09 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the example of case mapping you give is the same as before the ISUPPORT thing
12:18:39 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Umm...no it isn't.
12:18:47 <clokep_work> One is A-Z[]\~ and the other is A-Z[]\
12:18:58 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you just removed the ~ ?
12:19:57 <clokep_work> Yes.
12:20:10 <flo-retina> ok ^^
12:20:12 <clokep_work> Well I didn't. It's different case mappings someone came up with.
12:20:31 * flo-retina blames 'someone' for making this confusing then
12:20:37 <clokep_work> Yeah. ;)
12:20:43 <clokep_work> ASCII works fine for me IMO. :P
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14:14:12 <aleth> for Mic: https://medium.com/p/3d1b0a9b810e/
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14:40:15 <flo-retina> http://blog.gerv.net/2014/04/bugzilla-mozilla-org-stats-at-1000000/ Look at the "Busiest Days Ever" section ;)
14:41:39 <aleth> :D
14:43:04 <flo-retina> gerv has 48k comments!
14:43:31 <aleth> just a few...
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14:47:25 <clokep_work> aleth: Looks like people are actually interested in fixing that @@create bug. :)
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15:00:16 <nhnt11> Do we want to redesign the Instantbird website at some point?
15:00:46 <flo-retina> do you want to redesign the Ib website?
15:01:38 <nhnt11> Do I think it needs a redesign? Yes. Do I volunteer to do it? No. :P
15:02:33 <flo-retina> I think the first sentence of that answer could do with more details AND that the last word answers your first question ;)
15:03:59 <nhnt11> I just think it doesn't really look like other modern websites (look at firefox.com for example)
15:04:28 <nhnt11> At the very least I think the font looks a bit cartoony.
15:04:31 <flo-retina> it doesn't have a team of 10+ people recreating it every other year
15:04:32 <nhnt11> (jmho)
15:04:55 * nhnt11 gets that.
15:04:58 * clokep_work dislikes the design of firefox.com FWIW. ;)
15:05:30 * flo-retina has nothing against changing the font, but isn't very interested in that debate
15:09:05 <clokep_work> There's been a few people who have complained about it, yeah. :-\
15:10:00 <flo-retina> the current website was designed for the 0.2 release
15:15:49 <clokep_work> nhnt11: So if there's someone who wants to design it, we'd probably be willing to work with them, is that fair flo-retina?
15:16:03 <flo-retina> mostly
15:16:11 <nhnt11> That answers my question, yeah.
15:16:23 <flo-retina> I'm slightly afraid that we would end up in the same situation as what happened with ecaron though :-/
15:16:40 <flo-retina> ie. that person would need more support from us than we could provide, and get frustrated
15:16:54 <flo-retina> remember that we haven't even been able to design _t-shirts_ !
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15:17:41 <aleth> ecaron also ran into changing the icon, which is much harder than changing the website ;)
15:18:00 <aleth> Or maybe not, who knows.
15:21:12 <flo-retina> it is, for us. Not for someone who cares about the design though. :(
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15:35:35 <aleth> Would it be a good or an annoying feature for pings to people who have just left to automatically be memoserv'd?
15:36:55 <clokep_work> Annoying. :)
15:37:01 <clokep_work> Cause frequently those people come right back.
15:37:03 <clokep_work> Ah, nice. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986724 :)
15:37:07 <instantbot> Bug 986724 nor, --, Thunderbird 32.0, archaeopteryx, RESO FIXED, security > passwords: strings for error message if FIPS active not defined, error popup not shown wh
15:37:53 <aleth> :)
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15:50:51 <aleth> mayanktg: I commented on your bug, hope it helps.
15:55:19 <mayanktg> aleth: Yes, I read it in the morning. I'm using the toBlob() to store in the memory. 
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16:06:16 <clokep_work> aleth: Check out what jcranmer and I just discussed in #maildev.
16:07:17 <aleth> clokep_work: Interesting. I'd not heard of them either.
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16:44:59 <clokep_work> aleth: Me neither.
16:45:03 <clokep_work> Guess I'll have to look at it.
16:45:12 <clokep_work> Good thing is the current patches all don't care about the under lying implementation.
16:45:52 <aleth> Yes, I've opened the tab too...
16:46:36 <aleth> Could be useful for something else even if it shouldn't turn out to help much here
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