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08:35:58 <flo-retina> uh, now I see why aleth hasn't replied to my questions in bug 954979 :-/
08:36:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954979 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Check for open conversations when adding a buddy
08:36:09 <flo-retina> they were never sent, likely due to the flaky 3G in trains :(
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10:06:02 <flo-retina> any idea of the cause of: Warning: Unhandled IRC message: :concrete.mozilla.org 597 flo-retina Sylvestre Sylvestre moz-CB3DAE4D.ecranbleu.org 1397555233 :Auto away at Tue Apr 15 11:47:04 2014
10:06:02 <flo-retina> Source File: resource://gre/components/irc.js Line: 700 prpl-irc: ircSocket.prototype.onDataReceived
10:06:02 <flo-retina> ?
10:06:25 * flo-retina thought we handled status messages
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10:29:34 <aleth> Looks like 597 is so nonstandard I can't find a reference to it anywhere ;)
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10:38:42 <clokep> aleth: http://elizabethmyers.me.uk/~elizabeth/numerics/allnumerics.txt has it. ;)
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10:39:08 <aleth> REAWAY? what is that supposed to mean?
10:39:21 <aleth> away again? about away?
10:39:28 <clokep> Back from away?
10:39:30 <clokep> I don't know.
10:41:14 <clokep> aleth: https://github.com/savetheinternet/UnrealIRCd/blob/290dafe8145ca9567ea120ff63129ce3471dae32/src/modules/m_away.c#L174
10:41:39 <aleth> Haha, good way to find out :)
10:41:39 <clokep> I think it means they changed their away message?
10:41:49 <aleth> I think so.
10:43:51 <clokep> aleth: https://github.com/rabbitircd/rabbitircd/commit/74eb16146782a07da86e45c3039c34ece90310e1
10:44:01 <clokep> The fourth example "  User is still away, but reason changed."
10:45:11 <aleth> So "RE" stands for Reason. Heh.
10:46:32 <flo-retina> so that seems like something we should handle?
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10:47:51 <clokep> flo-retina: Yes.
10:48:00 <clokep> aleth: Btw the sites I use to find these things are all at the top of https://bitbucket.org/clokep/irc-docs/overview :)
10:48:41 <aleth> Right, the magic list :) Should have remembered that.
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10:54:47 <clokep> I can take a look at all these IRC papercuts soon, but please file a bug flo-retina.
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11:08:01 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 996540 filed by florian@queze.net.
11:08:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996540 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unhandled IRC message: 597 RPL_REAWAY
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11:21:40 <flo-retina> aleth: so what are we doing for bug 954979?
11:21:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954979 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Check for open conversations when adding a buddy
11:21:49 <flo-retina> are you filing another bug and handling the error case there?
11:21:57 <flo-retina> do we want to land the current patch first? land both at once?
11:22:42 <aleth> I'll file another bug for the error case. The landing sequence doesn't matter much imho as it's such a rare edge case.
11:23:25 <aleth> Do you have any other examples of when a uiConv might be closed (but not by the user closing the conv)? It might matter for the string we would display.
11:27:56 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 996545 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:27:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996545 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Warn the user if no uiConv exists when trying to send a message
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12:15:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks.
12:22:35 <flo-retina> np :)
12:28:11 <flo-retina> aleth: no other example in mind right now
12:29:00 <flo-retina> just the account removed or messing with the buddy list (I think there's a similar issue if you group two buddies of different prpls into one contact (we have two UI convs for one contact)
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12:30:27 <clokep_work> aleth: Does bug 996545 block bug 954979?
12:30:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996545 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Warn the user if no uiConv exists when trying to send a message
12:30:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954979 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Check for open conversations when adding a buddy
12:31:04 <aleth> Not really. They're just related.
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12:44:34 <clokep_work> OK.
12:44:38 <clokep_work> Just wondering. :)
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13:12:49 * clokep_work just kicked off a build on Ubuntu...
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13:13:17 <clokep_work> IT passed configure once I installed libavahi...
13:13:29 <clokep_work> That's a good sign, I guess hah.
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13:14:10 <aleth> Not-failed-yet ;)
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13:48:39 <flo-retina> it's impressive that people still manage to use Win2000: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lmYmfUlir2MJ:forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D2482475+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-nightly
13:49:51 <aleth> Maybe it's like vintage cars ;)
13:50:06 <aleth> Only not so pretty.
13:50:08 <flo-retina> and even with Nightly Firefox builds!
13:50:34 <flo-retina> aleth: do you mean like vintage cars with a brand new GPS and internet access? :-]
13:56:15 <aleth> flo-retina: More like vintage cars with ABS, airbags and assisted reverse parking ;)
13:56:30 <flo-retina> bad idea ;)
13:56:38 <aleth> Yup.
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15:18:12 <clokep_work> My build failed. :(
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15:20:19 <flo-retina> does the error message make sense?
15:21:07 <clokep_work> Oh yeah.
15:21:11 <clokep_work> It can't find the kerberos stuff.
15:21:16 <clokep_work> I just haven't looked at it.
15:21:17 <flo-retina> ah :-|
15:21:19 <clokep_work> ^ _work.
15:21:21 <clokep_work> ;)
15:21:24 <flo-retina> :)
15:21:37 <aleth> kerberouch.
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16:54:19 <codesdecartes> Get a free miencraft premium card code at http://minecraftdojo.com :x
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16:55:14 <nhnt11> clokep_work, flo-retina: Ban that guy? ^
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17:24:22 * clokep_work sets mode +b codesdecartes!*@* 
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17:24:27 <clokep_work> I need to add a ban command.
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17:28:13 <Mook_as> And a separate kickban?
17:29:03 <clokep_work> Mook_as: I think it's reasonable to just kick automatically.
17:29:25 <Mook_as> aww, sometimes ban-only (so they can watch and not speak) is useful
17:29:42 <clokep_work> (o_O) That's different, I think.
17:29:49 <clokep_work> Isn't that when you disable voice?
17:29:52 <Mook_as> am I misremembering? it's been a while
17:30:42 <clokep_work> I think that's a different mode.
17:30:46 <clokep_work> Not +b, I think it's something else.
17:30:49 <clokep_work> But I forget too.
17:30:52 <clokep_work> I don't deal w/ that stuff often.
17:31:29 <Mook_as> codesdecar@moz-9031E582.hsd1.in.comcast.net ?
17:31:34 <Mook_as> err, wrong paste
17:32:46 <clokep_work> (o_O)
17:32:48 <Mook_as> I meant http://www.unrealircd.com/files/docs/unreal32docs.html#feature_bantypes
17:33:26 <clokep_work> Ah, so... a standard ban I'm talking about, not the quiet one.
17:34:38 <Mook_as> right; I thought a standard ban also caused the person to be unable to speak (and then, once they left, unable to rejoin)
17:34:46 <Mook_as> but I might be misremembering!
17:34:54 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 996722 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
17:34:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996722 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add a ban command to IRC
17:34:57 <clokep_work> Maybe that's how it works. :)
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17:40:45 <Mic> clokep_work: "/mode +b" isn't the problem for me. For me it's the <nickname>!<user>@<....> part that is really annoying because I wouldn't know what it has to look like.
17:41:56 <clokep_work> Mic: Well whatever, we should make the experience better.
17:42:05 <clokep_work> We could add actions to participants too?
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17:45:08 <Mic> Can/would we want to add a ban on a hostmask when the user provides only a nickname as parameter?
17:46:25 <clokep_work> I just did that. ;)
17:46:35 <clokep_work> I couldn't get any other info, he was already offline.
17:46:46 <clokep_work> I think most of our bans are by nick.
17:49:07 <Mic> clokep_work: I meant getting the hostmask of the user in question and adding the ban on that instead of nickname!*@*
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17:56:00 <clokep_work> Automatically? No.
17:56:04 <clokep_work> Probably not, at least.
18:08:01 <Mic> I asked two questions at once :(
18:08:33 <Mic> We can not do that or we just wouldn't want to do that? Which of that was the question you answered here?
18:11:14 <clokep_work> I don't see why we couldn't do it, but I don't see why we'd want to do it.
18:11:26 <clokep_work> I'm also slightly confused at what you're suggesting.
18:11:44 <clokep_work> I think you're suggesting if I say /ban clokep, it'd automatically ban clokep!<my current user>@<my current hostname>
18:11:58 <Mic> Yes, exactly.
18:12:29 <clokep_work> I think that's too magical.
18:13:01 <clokep_work> But maybe we could do that if (!arg.contains("@") || !arg.contains("!")) or something.
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18:16:41 <Mic> That's the behaviour I meant (but did not explicitly state).
18:17:08 <clokep_work> OK. :)
18:17:18 * Mook_as would like to somehow see the hostnames of people who left :p
18:17:50 <clokep_work> I think we don't show them on purpose.
18:17:59 <clokep_work> It was an explicit change from Pidgin. :(
18:18:56 <Mic> Mook_as: doesn't the whowas info on tooltips help here?
18:19:26 <clokep_work> whowas doesn't show that IIRC.
18:19:44 <Mook_as> Mic: err... how do I see that for people who left? (i.e. they're not in the participants list)
18:19:50 <clokep_work> Mic: Ah, you're right...it does.
18:19:53 <clokep_work> Mook_as: /whois? ;)
18:20:10 <clokep_work> They appear if you mouseover the nick in Instantbird, not sure about TB.
18:20:31 <Mook_as> Oh, they do! Okay
18:20:45 <Mook_as> Yay, feature request to implementation in negative time XD
18:21:54 <flo-retina> :-D
18:24:08 <clokep_work> Still took time for us to explain. :P
18:24:11 <clokep_work> I'll send you an invoice.
18:24:28 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Don't worry, flo-retina does that to me all the time. ;)
18:25:03 <Mic> Implementations in negative time or sending you invoices for it? ;)
18:25:25 <Mook_as> clokep_work: oh, it's fine, I'll just pay you in negative dollars
18:25:45 <clokep_work> Mook_as: You mean Canadian dollars? ;)
18:29:03 <flo-retina> clokep_work: Isn't it just fair that you remember for me what has been implemented, if I can guess for you what code/line you forgot to write? ;)
18:29:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Fair enough. :)
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20:59:08 <flo-retina> clokep_work: is "      // Remove leading and trailing single or double quote, and then remove \ escaping." a comment you like instead of "// Unquote" re bug 817596 ?
20:59:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817596 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Unable to parse nonce values from "jabber.ubuntu-fr.org"
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21:02:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: One second.
21:03:13 <clokep_work> Yes, that's fine.
21:03:43 <flo-retina> I'm wondering if I shouldn't just say "unescape" instead of "remove \ escaping"
21:07:14 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I'd prefer the more explicit phrasing.
21:07:22 <clokep_work> Maybe "Unescape by...<whatever you wrote up there>"?
21:07:38 <flo-retina> unescape by removing escaping? :-D
21:08:26 <flo-retina> and now that I have my editor pointed at this code, I'm also tempted to replace "    for each (let elem in decoded.split(/, */)) {
21:08:27 <flo-retina> " with     for (let elem of decoded.split(/, */)) {
21:08:37 <flo-retina> but I guess it would be better to do a mass "for each" replacement bug some day
21:09:49 <clokep_work> Yeah, probably.
21:10:03 <clokep_work> Doing it for new code is fine w/ me though.
21:10:09 <clokep_work> Just "do it right".
21:10:27 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So my goal with the comments was that I could tell what the regexp was TRYING to do w/o trying to read them.
21:10:35 <clokep_work> So a simple comment like "Unescape" isn't useful to me in that.
21:10:47 <clokep_work> It makes me go "What is it trying to unescape?"
21:11:05 <flo-retina> the problem with "unescape" is that it only applies to the last regexp
21:11:16 <flo-retina> "Unquote then unescape." would have been fine I think
21:11:35 <clokep_work> "Remove quotes from start/end of string and unescape."?
21:11:47 <clokep_work> Works for me.
21:12:20 * flo-retina will keep his original suggestion, stop bikeshedding, push the patches, and then go back to his paperwork :-S
21:12:34 <clokep_work> Goodnight!
21:15:29 <clokep_work> Thanks flo-retina. :)
21:16:00 <flo-retina> do you think I'll fall asleep on the paperwork? :-D
21:16:10 <clokep_work> I think you should be asleep before I get home. ;)
21:18:35 <flo-retina> heh
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21:20:30 <instantbot> florian@queze.net changed the Resolution on bug 987420 from --- to FIXED.
21:20:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=987420 nor, --, 1.6, florian, RESO FIXED, The /list command should focus the server tab
21:22:52 <instantbot> florian@queze.net changed the Resolution on bug 817596 from --- to FIXED.
21:22:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817596 nor, --, 1.6, trouble, RESO FIXED, Unable to parse nonce values from "jabber.ubuntu-fr.org"
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23:33:44 <clokep> flo-retina: You still up? :P
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