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03:24:27 <instant-buildbot> build #2111 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2111
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12:01:44 <clokep_work> Hello.
12:03:28 <aleth> Hi
12:04:10 <aleth> SASL ftw :)
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12:12:04 <clokep_work> Yup.
12:16:55 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Btw I made those changes to the glib symbols stuff adn everything compiled...but I have no Office Communicator option anymore when trying to make an account. :-S
12:16:57 <clokep_work> I haven't debugged it yet.
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12:34:09 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "Warning: The server does not support SASL PLAIN authentication." and "Error: Registration completed before SASL authentication completed." make me think my freenode account doesn't benefit much from SASL
12:34:50 <stux> aleth, while you were gone:
12:34:52 <stux> <nhnt11> aleth: Yeah. I don't know if/when I'll have time to look at that though...
12:34:52 <stux> <stux> ah! aleth is gone :( i'll have to say thanks when he gets back and find an alternative means of getting the list 
12:34:52 <stux> * stux sees the benefit of the add-on system here
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12:35:18 <stux> so once again thank you for the info!
12:35:27 <aleth> stux: Thanks. Any particular reason you are on 1.4 btw?
12:35:52 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Um, what? We definitely used SASL...(I added it FOR freenode).
12:36:00 <clokep_work> Did they stop supporting SASL PLAIN at some point?
12:36:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: nah, it's still the error message I get at each connection, because for main nick of the group is fqueze and I'm connecting fqueze_
12:38:02 <aleth> flo-retina: So really you are just hinting again you want grouped nick support ;)
12:38:18 <flo-retina> maybe
12:38:26 <stux> aleth, yeah, the machine I installed it in cannot be upgraded and it's running Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64-bit (i'll be looking to replace it in the coming months before support runs out) and for some reason (I don't remember what it was) I couldn't use the binaries so I had to compile the entire build from scratch.  I don't really want to compile a newer version unless I have a compelling reason :)
12:38:38 <flo-retina> aleth: I think I would already be happy with less misleading error messages ;)
12:40:13 <clokep_work> stux: My guess is you just had to install the 32-bit compatibility packages as in the FAQ.
12:40:27 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Maybe I can look at it soon.
12:41:11 <clokep_work> I still find that hard to wrap my mind around. (How we should handle grouped nicks.)
12:42:13 <stux> clokep_work, maybe, but it migth've been a dependency issue.  Or maybe those packages weren't around back then. If I have a chance I may upgrade.  Like I said, I won't upgrade unless I have a compelling reason.
12:43:44 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I have no idea of whether this is possible to handle correctly. So that's just an 'area to investigate'. The misleading error messages are a bug though.
12:44:07 <clokep_work> stux: http://www.instantbird.com/faq.html#installlinux
12:44:14 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I'm not disagreeing with you. :-\
12:44:32 <flo-retina> :)
12:44:41 <stux> clokep_work, yup I was just looking at that, thanks for the link! :)
12:45:14 <aleth> Which reminds me the update to that FAQ still needs checking in.
12:45:17 <clokep_work> flo-retina: All I'm saying is that this stupid SIPE thing is the only thing I'm willing to work on right now and it's frustrating the hell out of me (which means I don't work ona nything).
12:46:38 <stux> bbl gotta get ready for work, thanks guys! 
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13:10:44 <flo-retina> clokep_work: is the windows issue the last thing that needs to be figured out?
13:14:39 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I need to ensure everything compiles on Linux.
13:14:56 <clokep_work> I mostly find it frustrating because I have it working and then everything breaks. :-\
13:15:27 <flo-retina> can we use the Tb try server for that to speed up looking at whether it builds on all OSes?
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13:36:06 <clokep_work> Maybe.
13:36:18 <clokep_work> Can we do a patch for a subrepo like that?
13:37:05 <flo-retina> hmm
13:37:23 <flo-retina> to generate the Tb add-on I used to just put the whole purple/ folder in the c-c tree for the try ush
13:37:27 <flo-retina> *push
13:37:32 <flo-retina> but that may be more difficult now :-S
13:37:53 <clokep_work> Right. :-\ It wouldn't even have the repo pulled.
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23:11:28 <clokep> flo-retina: So any ideas of what to look for about why this doesn't have SIPE included when I build?
23:11:36 <clokep> It is in the list of statically linked prpls an seems to be being linked...
23:12:00 <flo-retina> add a printf in its initialization code
23:15:27 <clokep> mv fake.lib purplexpcom.lib
23:15:28 <clokep> mv: cannot stat `fake.lib': No such file or directory
23:15:31 <clokep> That doesn't sound good. :-\
23:15:37 <clokep> I wonder if I'm using an oler purplexpcom
23:19:16 <clokep> flo-retina: Any thoughts on that ^?
23:19:55 * flo-retina filed bug 996302
23:20:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996302 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Running twice the same document encoder should return the same result
23:20:36 <flo-retina> clokep: if you suspect that fake.lib hack, you can just comment it out
23:20:58 <flo-retina> I know why it was added, but I've never been able to decide if it was still needed after the Makefile.in -> moz.build transition
23:22:53 <clokep> Hmm...OK. I'll try.
23:24:52 <flo-retina> shouldn't be relevant if your prpl is statically linked though :-S
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23:31:56 * clokep wonders if this is spam: http://clokep.blogspot.com/2012/06/irc-auto-performs.html?showComment=1397517751619#c5796585457736859507
23:32:58 <flo-retina> yes!
23:37:07 <clokep> flo-retina: Commenting out those lines didn't help.
23:37:35 <flo-retina> are you sure the purplexpcom.dll file that's used is actually a recent one?
23:37:42 <clokep> Nope.
23:37:52 <flo-retina> these files have a timestamp, right?
23:38:25 <clokep> It's from...7 minutes ago.
23:39:27 <flo-retina> ok
23:39:39 <flo-retina> have you tried adding a printf in the initialization code of SIPE?
23:39:46 <Mook_as> why does createInstance()ing a new document encoder (as in your bug) give a non-empty result? :?
23:40:09 <flo-retina> Mook_as: I don't understand your question
23:40:20 <clokep> Not yet.
23:40:24 * clokep was making fish.
23:40:25 <clokep> ;)
23:40:36 <flo-retina> clokep: you sure you have the correct lines in the manifest files?
23:40:54 <Mook_as> Running the code from bug 996302, without the compare, I get a string result that looks like it's from the addon manager.  That's weird because I didn't give it any input...
23:40:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996302 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Running twice the same document encoder should return the same result
23:42:09 <flo-retina> Mook_as: |encoder.init(document, "text/plain", 0);|
23:42:12 <flo-retina> the input is "document"
23:42:36 <flo-retina> I don't know why the add-on manager is messing with the same window as the browser console (I assume it's the hidden window that they both mess with)
23:42:36 <clokep> flo-retina: Of course not. :-D Which lines are you referring to though?
23:43:06 <flo-retina> clokep: that stuff: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/prpl.manifest#1
23:43:24 <clokep> flo-retina: :( Doh.
23:43:28 <clokep> I don't think I added anything there.
23:43:40 <Mook_as> ah, right, sorry, just my bad reading then.
23:53:33 <clokep> flo-retina: So you're right again and I'm just having issues working on this stuff. :(
23:53:37 <clokep> I think this just leaves linux though. :)
23:53:51 <flo-retina> :)
23:54:08 <flo-retina> clokep: I tend to not be too bad at guessing where people will make mistakes ;)
23:54:49 <flo-retina> clokep: note that bug 954975 shows we already wasted time there in the past ;)
23:54:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954975 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Automate creation of prpl.manifest
23:55:53 <clokep> I wonder if the solution tehre can work anymore in moz.build land.
23:56:29 <flo-retina> most of it still seems relevant
23:56:42 <flo-retina> I'm not sure we are wasting enough time on this for it to be worth investing time in
23:59:33 <flo-retina> Good night!
23:59:39 <clokep> Goodnight.