#instantbird log on 04 04 2014

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00:07:52 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 991964 filed by lilstenly@gmail.com.
00:07:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991964 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Reconnecting issues, conversation windows showing up, sound events
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00:53:19 <arlolra> flo-retina: any thoughts on my responses? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983347
00:53:21 <instantbot> Bug 983347 nor, --, ---, arlolra, ASSI, Need different paths for displaying to the screen and sending over the wire
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03:24:01 <instant-buildbot> build #2101 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2101
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03:48:21 <instant-buildbot> build #1318 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1318
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10:07:39 <flo-retina> bah, people are fighting about hg vs git in that ccrework thread :(
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10:17:31 <clokep> flo-retina: I'm not fully surprised.
10:17:57 <flo-retina> I'm not really either, but I'm disappointed anyway
10:20:07 <flo-retina> I'm still wondering if I want to reply or not
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11:00:25 <aleth> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/140404/#m70 hg vs git?! how much more offtopic can you get?
11:00:36 * Mic wondered that too?
11:00:57 <Mic> I don't know what thread that is though, so I haven't read anything myself.
11:01:21 <aleth> Mic: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.planning/P8oHKTCWSiQ probably
11:01:47 <flo-retina> aleth: the other off topic part was "should we stop supporting Thunderbird at all" ;)
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12:38:23 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 991964 from --- to INCOMPLETE.
12:38:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991964 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Reconnecting issues, conversation windows showing up, sound events
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13:00:32 * clokep_work hopes that wasn't too dick. ;)
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13:49:53 <aleth> flo-retina: "that time text doesn't appear at all in my logs" have you updated recently? It was broken before the last mutationobserver fix landed
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13:59:00 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Let me know if that comment in that bug makes sense.
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14:45:31 <flo-retina> aleth: if I wrote that I typoed.
14:45:48 <flo-retina> the time text doesn't appear in _some_ of my logs, and I can't figure out which one
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15:08:55 <aleth> clokep_work: Good comment on bug 8398229
15:09:06 <aleth> ah, bug 983347
15:09:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983347 nor, --, ---, arlolra, ASSI, Need different paths for displaying to the screen and sending over the wire
15:09:39 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks.
15:12:02 <aleth> I wonder if this should be done with promises.
15:13:28 <aleth> It feels premature to suggest it in the bug though as (like your comment says) the design isn't clear yet, to me at least.
15:14:34 <aleth> Maybe it's enough for the conversation service to handle it.
15:15:54 <clokep_work> I don't think this is a reason to use promises at all.
15:16:02 <clokep_work> I don't think that would help.
15:16:07 <clokep_work> We're not using callbacks or anything.
15:16:26 <aleth> I meant for this part "Some prpls get a ack that a message was received and should not be displayed until that point (e.g. on Twitter we get our own tweets sent back to us)"
15:17:39 <clokep_work> ...?
15:17:40 <clokep_work> So?
15:17:46 <clokep_work> We just treat it like any other incoming message.
15:17:56 <clokep_work> A promise would make this significantly more complicated IMO.
15:18:02 <clokep_work> We'd have to go find the promise and resolve it.
15:18:12 <aleth> I dimly remember some twitter bug where the UI was frozen until the message was displayed?
15:18:50 <aleth> But like I said, I'm not sure it's needed either.
15:19:13 <clokep_work> I thought flo-retina assumed that was from sounds...
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15:37:19 <flo-retina> aleth: for the hooks part, I was thinking something similar to what's done to prevent shutdown could be used. ie. a notification sent through the observer service, and the code changing a property on the aSubject if it wants to do stuff with it
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16:58:40 <clokep_work> aleth: "Adding the prplConv to the other uiConv would be a bit of work, and it wouldn't help because there would be no way to switch between the conversations for the same protocol but different accounts." That's a known bug, although I can't find it...
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18:44:33 <petunia> good evening boys and girls
18:45:07 <petunia> imm trying to configure a new instantbird account
18:46:30 <petunia> at the moment, this new account is connected
18:47:19 <petunia> but i don't know where to write /list comand to have channel's list
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18:51:32 <petunia> when i configured other accounts, i used to find a tab (for example nickserv) where i could write commands 
18:52:16 <clokep_work> petunia: Ctrl + T and then you can search on there.
18:52:25 <clokep_work> Or Ctrl + J to join an individual room.
18:52:46 <clokep_work> I can't promise how well it works with screen readers (which I think you're using?) :-\
18:54:43 <petunia> i'm using jaws
18:55:10 <petunia> if i type ctrl+j i must know a channel
18:56:00 <petunia> but i don't know channels of this server
18:59:33 <petunia> server address is: irc.tiscali.it
19:13:36 <clokep_work> petunia: Did you try Ctrl + T as I suggested?
19:14:33 <petunia> yes but i listen only the conversation that i put on old
19:15:16 <petunia> but i'm looking for a list of new channels
19:15:28 <petunia> in irc.tiscali.it
19:16:24 <clokep_work> I understand that. That code is supposed to call LIST and see what the result is.
19:16:57 <clokep_work> Alas, if that's not working...you can (In the Advanced Preferences for the account) flip the flag to show the server tab.
19:17:03 <clokep_work> And that should give you some place to type /list.
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19:33:13 <qheaden> Hi.
19:33:49 <clokep_work> Hello qheaden.
19:33:59 <clokep_work> petunia: Did that make sense?
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