#instantbird log on 04 03 2014

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03:25:23 <instant-buildbot> build #2100 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2100
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03:48:03 <instant-buildbot> build #1317 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1317
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12:19:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Did you see the post on m.d.a.thunderbird/m.d.planning/like fiften other places? :P
12:20:02 <flo-retina> nope
12:21:02 <flo-retina> reading now
12:21:11 <flo-retina> anything important I should be aware of?
12:24:25 <flo-retina> the only reply I see (from Ed Morley) seems quite positive
12:24:56 <clokep_work> He includes the im/ folder but not the other-licenses/Instantbird stuff.
12:25:05 <clokep_work> Which I think is the only other place we have things?
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12:26:52 <flo-retina> we can just move that stuff to im/branding if needed
12:27:33 <flo-retina> I think other-licenses/7zstub also needs to be included
12:27:57 <flo-retina> there's both seamonkey and thunderbird there, so I wouldn't be surprised if instantbird was kept around at the same time ;)
12:28:12 <clokep_work> Ah, I knew there was another one I was forgetting! :)
12:28:43 <flo-retina> as long as im/ goes, we can easily figure out the other details ;)
12:29:35 <clokep_work> Yup! :)
12:29:37 <clokep_work> That was my thought.
12:30:45 <clokep_work> "to avoid adding the history of other parts of c-c to mozilla-central's hg store"...are there other parts that mark didn't include? :P
12:34:59 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yes, there's all the stuff we are happy to get rid of, eg. the duplicated/forked build system.
12:36:36 <clokep_work> Ohhh, right. :)
12:37:11 <flo-retina> also, sunbird
12:38:16 <clokep_work> Did it not include calendar?
12:38:52 <flo-retina> not fully sure
12:38:58 * clokep_work shrugs.
12:39:01 <clokep_work> Not my problem. ;)
12:39:11 <flo-retina> but I think the parts for lightning are kept, but the sunbird as a standalone app stuff is dead
12:42:58 <clokep_work> Cool.
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12:46:37 <qheaden> Hello everyone.
12:47:38 <clokep_work> Good morning.
12:49:14 <qheaden> clokep_work, flo-retina: Once again, I'm really sorry about my slow progress on JS-Yahoo. TBH, I won't be able to get much done until my semester is over (later this month).
12:49:26 <qheaden> I'm not taking any classes this summer, just working, so I should have a lot more time.
12:49:56 <flo-retina> suggestion: stop attempting to do "much", and just look at tiny pieces ;)
12:50:14 <qheaden> :P
12:50:28 <qheaden> Lately, I haven't even had time to look at the tiny pieces.
12:50:36 <qheaden> I'm barely keeping up with homework assignments. lol
12:54:05 <clokep_work> qheaden: No reason to apologize. :)
12:54:53 <clokep_work> qheaden: As long as you keep making some progress I can't complain too much. :) Do we at elast have a good handle on what still needs to be done.
12:55:31 <qheaden> clokep_work: I really need to fix group chat.
12:55:53 <qheaden> I need to set up my computers at home to test out chatting with 3 or more users.
12:56:14 <qheaden> Well, we tested it, but I need to analyze some more to find the differences between the official YMSG client and Instantbird.
13:04:08 <clokep_work> Fair enough.
13:04:22 <clokep_work> Honestly I'm more concerned about IM and buddy operations working.
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14:01:12 <flo-retina> aleth: you may be interested in the "Don't load tabs until selected" checkbox in the "Tabs" prefpane of Firefox
14:02:03 <aleth> flo-retina: umm, what's the context? (I have always had it checked)
14:02:33 <flo-retina> you were upset about session restore not loading all your tabs after a restart, and missing the content while offline
14:03:11 <aleth> I'm not upset about missing content in tabs that were not loaded when I went offline though.
14:03:52 <aleth> Do you mean if I unset that tab, there won't be a problem because it won't try to reload?
14:03:59 <aleth> s/tab/checkbox
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15:06:39 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Which bug is this?
15:06:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: not filed :(
15:06:56 <flo-retina> because no steps to reproduce
15:07:05 <clokep_work> The one where you can't reconnect though?
15:07:09 <flo-retina> yes
15:07:23 <flo-retina> basically, I go back to my computer, find my ssh tunnel broken for some reason
15:07:28 <flo-retina> I restart the tunnel
15:07:35 <flo-retina> then attempt to reconnect accounts
15:07:54 <flo-retina> all connection attempts fail, with a generic non descriptive message
15:08:05 <flo-retina> if I "check for update", the updater tells me "proxy refused the connection"
15:08:12 <flo-retina> after restarting Instantbird, everything connects fine.
15:08:31 <clokep_work> (o_O)
15:08:38 <clokep_work> Oh OK, so it isn't just the socket code it's something more serious.
15:08:43 <flo-retina> it's the second time I see this
15:08:52 <flo-retina> I don't have steps to reproduce
15:09:28 <flo-retina> my (mostly random) guess is that failed connection attempts aren't cleaned up, and we reach the maximum number of possible pending connections.... and then the low level socket code will just reject new sockets
15:10:07 <flo-retina> clokep_work: great reply to that mailing list thread, thanks! :)
15:10:18 <flo-retina> I don't see anything useful I can add to that
15:12:50 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I probably should have included an example bug number. ;) But I figured it'd be good to show someone was excited about the changes.
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22:28:10 <clokep> FYI MozillaBuild 1.9.0 was released, has a lot of nice changes including an updated hg (aka faster)!
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22:52:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 991933 filed by lilstenly@gmail.com.
22:52:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=991933 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Conversation windows showing up and steal focus on reconnect
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