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00:03:11 <Mic> I wonder if he's trying to use the user name URL as user name... 00:13:51 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:40:46 <-- nathanr has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:52:16 --> nathanr has joined #instantbird 00:57:58 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 01:02:38 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 01:06:36 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1-rdmsoft [XULRunner 22.0/20130619132145]) 01:59:10 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 02:07:15 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 02:10:07 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 02:10:35 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 02:15:16 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 02:24:44 <clokep> Mic: Yes, but most people don't do that. :) 02:25:14 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:03:10 --> shashika has joined #instantbird 03:12:03 <-- arlolra has quit (Quit: arlolra) 03:26:22 <instant-buildbot> build #2076 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2076 03:37:52 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:43:17 --> kramolnik has joined #instantbird 03:51:18 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 04:13:29 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 04:15:01 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 04:28:38 <instant-buildbot> build #1292 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1292 04:45:46 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 04:51:50 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 04:53:45 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 05:01:34 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:02:38 --> shrihari has joined #instantbird 05:09:43 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:10:53 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 05:19:32 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 06:08:41 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 06:35:51 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:38:02 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 06:39:34 <-- shrihari has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:41:19 <-- GeKo has quit (Z:lined (dronebot)) 06:45:37 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:46:50 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 06:48:06 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 07:12:02 <-- kramolnik has quit (Ping timeout) 07:24:08 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 07:27:43 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 08:13:29 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 08:55:26 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 09:01:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:01:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:13:59 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 09:14:06 * nhnt12 is wondering whether to just copy stuff over from last year's proposal wherever it's still relevant 09:14:09 <-- nhnt11 has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by nhnt12)) 09:14:12 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 09:14:22 <nhnt11> Mic: I think you'll see your double completion bug again... 09:15:44 <Mic> Yes, I do. 09:16:44 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 09:16:54 <-- nhnt11 has left #instantbird () 09:16:57 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 09:17:03 <-- nhnt11 has left #instantbird () 09:17:42 <Mic> nhnt12: now it's suggesting nhnt11 and nhnt12. Is that normal? 09:18:03 <nhnt12> I'm not sure 09:18:09 <nhnt12> i was trying to switch my nick from nhnt12 09:18:16 <nhnt12> But i'm seeing "Could not use the specified nickname. Your nick remains nhnt12." 09:18:33 <Mic> I think it doesn't usally suggest offline contacts. 09:18:48 <nhnt12> Mic: nhnt11 is not offline 09:18:52 <nhnt12> just not in the channel 09:18:55 <nhnt12> if that makes a difference 09:18:55 <nhnt12> oh 09:19:00 <nhnt12> that's why I couldn't swtich 09:19:01 <nhnt12> duh 09:19:13 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 09:19:16 <Mic> That's interesting. 09:19:20 <nhnt11> Mic: Double completion again? 09:19:30 <flo-retina> nhnt11: what stuff would you copy from last year? 09:19:32 <Mic> nhnt11: yes, exactly. 09:19:55 <nhnt11> flo-retina: parts from "Why Me" and "Why Mozilla" for example 09:20:19 <flo-retina> Mic: tab completion suggests offline nicks. I know it confused dmose. 09:20:23 <nhnt11> And my open source development experience pre-gsoc13 can probably stay too... 09:20:39 <flo-retina> nhnt11: ok. 09:21:14 <flo-retina> nhnt11: btw, these parts are mostly irrelevant for you this year. 09:21:50 <nhnt11> Right, you know me already ;) 09:21:59 <flo-retina> nhnt11: typically in a GSoC application, the student needs to demonstrate that 1. He has thought through the project he's proposing and the project is a good fit for GSoC. 2. He's a good student to complete the project. 09:22:12 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I think this year you mostly need to demonstrate 1. 09:22:45 <nhnt11> Yeah.. 09:22:46 <flo-retina> so yeah, feel free to copy these parts from last year, but don't be too offended if nobody reads them ;) 09:22:58 <nhnt11> I don't expect anyone to read them, that's why I want to copy paste :P 09:23:12 <flo-retina> heh :) 09:24:17 * flo-retina often skips the parts where the students says "I took courses foo and bar, and got the <some random sequence of numbers and letters that are expected to mean "awesome"> grade" 09:24:47 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 09:24:51 * nhnt11 doesn't have any such "awesome" grades anyway :( 09:24:59 <flo-retina> that kind of info is only meaningful if the reader knows the grading system of the student's country, and often knows the student's university specifically 09:25:41 <flo-retina> nhnt11: well, my point is; if the random sequence of characters meant "passable" instead of "awesome", I would have no way to make a difference between the two :-D 09:25:49 <nhnt11> :D 09:26:31 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 09:26:36 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:26:42 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 09:28:47 <nhnt11> Mic, flo-retina: By the way, something I want to avoid in my proposal is allotting fixed amounts of time to different tasks. I want to instead write the schedule of deliverables in terms of milestones (and a fewer number of them) 09:29:07 <nhnt11> The schedule in my proposal last year barely got followed honestly... 09:29:38 <nhnt11> (it was the same stuff, just not in the order I predicted..) 09:40:06 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 10:09:00 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:22:38 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 10:25:42 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:25:42 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:27:26 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:29:05 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:36:46 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 10:36:51 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:36:55 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks for fixing that. 10:43:53 <clokep> aleth_web: Btw did you see https://bitbucket.org/clokep/irc-docs/ in the logs? 10:45:57 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:46:14 <aleth_web> clokep: No, I missed that. thanks! :) 10:46:34 <aleth_web> Nicely organised too. 10:47:09 <clokep> It was my old mq patches. 10:47:12 <clokep> Just put into an actual repo. 10:47:20 <clokep> There's local copies of all those files btw. 10:47:50 <flo-retina> should that be somehow on our wiki? or wiki.mozilla.org? or mdn? 10:48:57 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:49:32 <clokep> I was planning at some point to make an "IRC stuff we support" wiki page. 10:49:34 <aleth_web> nhnt11: "(it was the same stuff, just not in the order I predicted..)" that's probably predictable ;) 10:49:38 <clokep> We could link to it on there. 10:49:46 <clokep> I haven't gotten around to doing it obviously. :) 10:50:58 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 10:51:09 <clokep> plus nhnt11 had the whole "Oh and btw you can't actually make other types of tabs yet..." ;) 10:51:30 --> kramolnik has joined #instantbird 10:52:41 <aleth_web> mayanktg: As it's "summer of *code*" not summer of UI I would recommend spending most of your application prep time on the technical issues rather than the UI mockup (which will be discussed here in detail anyway). 10:52:42 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 10:54:51 <-- kramolnik has quit (Ping timeout) 11:04:50 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout) 11:05:09 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:26:55 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:26:55 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:39:23 <-- shashika has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 11:41:24 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:45:32 <aleth_web> flo-retina: Could you take a quick look at bug 976579? It would be good to land that so there is a week or so to catch any (very unlikely) regressions 11:45:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976579 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port bug 955182 (replace mutation events with mutation observers in chat conversations) to TB 11:49:42 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 11:53:59 <flo-retina> aleth_web: r+ 11:55:34 <aleth_web> flo-retina: thanks! 12:01:27 <flo-retina> np 12:12:08 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:12:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:12:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Did you see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=cbaa127dce33? 12:13:32 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yes, it's a successful failure! \o/ 12:13:57 <flo-retina> clokep_work: we can move it off the Chat product IMHO :) 12:14:49 <aleth_web> clokep_work: Excellent idea to just disable that test and see what happens :) 12:15:06 <flo-retina> aleth_web: thanks ;) 12:15:14 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:21:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Sure, you want to go ahead and do that? ;) 12:41:56 <instantbot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 978753 from --- to FIXED. 12:41:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978753 nor, --, ---, clokep, RESO FIXED, Tests for purple/ are not running when |make xpcshell-tests| 13:24:07 <-- GeKo has quit (Quit: leaving) 13:35:19 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 13:45:06 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 13:46:21 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:48:10 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 13:48:27 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:50:04 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:50:25 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:50:38 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 13:56:57 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:58:58 --> shashika has joined #instantbird 14:12:06 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 14:15:20 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 14:16:05 * mconley is now known as mconley|labcoat 15:00:01 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:00:25 * mconley|labcoat is now known as mconley 15:06:22 * mconley is now known as mconley|labcoat 15:26:33 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:40:47 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 15:41:14 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:55:54 <-- GeKo has quit (Z:lined (dronebot)) 15:57:17 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 15:57:17 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:06:10 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 16:09:50 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 16:10:20 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 16:37:49 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 16:44:36 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:47:46 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:09:32 <flo-retina> clokep_work: done! 17:09:37 <qheaden> Hello everyone! 17:09:42 * qheaden is finally on Spring Break 17:10:13 * mconley|labcoat is now known as mconley 17:11:07 --> shrihari has joined #instantbird 17:11:08 <flo-retina> qheaden: cool! :) 17:11:26 * flo-retina didn't know Spring break started in winter. 17:11:34 <qheaden> Unfortunately, I still have to work over the break. :( 17:11:43 <qheaden> But I can still do IB development at work. 17:11:55 * qheaden needs to really get Ib compiled on his work machine 17:15:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Done w/ what?! 17:15:40 <clokep_work> qheaden: You mean like moving #chatdev to YMSG? 17:15:45 <flo-retina> 13:13:57 - flo-retina: clokep_work: we can move it off the Chat product IMHO :) 17:15:45 <flo-retina> [...] 17:15:45 <flo-retina> 13:21:21 - clokep_work: flo-retina: Sure, you want to go ahead and do that? ;) 17:16:03 <clokep_work> Thanks. :) 17:16:17 <qheaden> clokep_work: Yep. 17:16:45 <qheaden> I keep having compile issues on my work machine though. I guess because I'm trying to compile with Visual C++ 2010 instead of full Visual Studio. 17:16:46 * instantbot frowns at qheaden 17:16:52 <qheaden> :P 17:16:59 <qheaden> instantbot: I missed you 17:17:02 <instantbot> qheaden: Sorry, I've no idea what 'I missed you' might be. 17:17:03 <instantbot> qheaden: I missed you, too. 17:18:32 <Mook_as> Do mean VC2010 express? Because there was a full VC2010 too :p 17:18:49 <qheaden> Yeah, express. 17:18:49 <Mook_as> Ahem. "Do you". I should... probably attempt to wake up. 17:19:01 <qheaden> I have full VS 2010 on my home machine. 17:19:15 <qheaden> I was able to compile on that. I'll try again on my work machine. 17:20:07 <aleth_web> qheaden: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions#Build_prerequisites is no help? 17:20:10 <clokep_work> qheaden: I've never used a "full" VS, I've only ever used the free versions FYI. 17:20:40 <qheaden> aleth_web: Yeah, I followed that. I forgot the build errors I was getting. I'm going to rebuild and see what happens. 17:21:02 <clokep_work> flo-retina, Even: What was the status of getting a CentOS machine btw? 17:21:12 <clokep_work> (I also see a linux64 on buildbot. :)) 17:21:15 <flo-retina> the status is PITA 17:21:18 <Mook_as> \o/ packages for debian and ubuntu built. They're kinda crappy and not multiarch-compatible, but still... 17:22:24 <flo-retina> Mook_as: where? 17:22:44 <Mook_as> flo-retina: oh, sorry, that's my thing. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:mookmoz/instantbird 17:23:46 <Mook_as> I need to go turn on downloads when I get home, I think 17:24:15 <qheaden> How's GSoC going? 17:24:23 <qheaden> Lots of interest? 17:24:23 <flo-retina> qheaden: starting! 17:24:48 <qheaden> Awesome. 17:24:55 <flo-retina> well, a reasonable amount of interest 17:25:02 <flo-retina> (your question is a bit vague ;)) 17:25:13 <qheaden> :) 17:28:50 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:29:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 17:33:02 --> kramolnik has joined #instantbird 17:44:20 <-- nhnt12 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:45:51 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:55:33 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 17:57:57 <mayanktg> aleth: yes :-/ 18:10:03 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:10:26 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:11:43 <flo-retina> bah, bugzilla's dead 18:11:51 <Mook_as> Can't attach files? 18:12:08 <flo-retina> Mook_as: can't load anything 18:12:20 <flo-retina> can't attach file is just how it started :) 18:12:30 <Mook_as> Ah, okay. At least it seems to be known 18:13:16 <flo-retina> the last comment in the attachment bug said "I've started the alter table statement to expand it into an unsigned bigint (the largest integer data type currently available). Unfortunately, we're at the mercy of the system until it completes and no new attachments will be able to be added." 18:13:20 <qheaden> Yay, the compile worked. :) 18:13:34 <qheaden> Maybe I just had a bad source tree before. 18:13:41 <flo-retina> I would assume that altering the database can cause issues with other people attempting to access it at the same time ;) 18:13:42 <clokep_work> Umm..gmail is done for me too. 18:13:43 <clokep_work> Uh oh 18:14:04 <flo-retina> clokep_work: no bugzilla+no gmail = no work done ;) 18:14:11 <clokep_work> It's back. :-D 18:14:18 <flo-retina> (gmail isn't broken for me though) 18:15:13 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:53 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 18:25:37 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 18:25:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 18:30:27 <-- shrihari has quit (Ping timeout) 18:31:31 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1-rdmsoft [XULRunner 29.0a1/20140106030203]) 19:02:38 <-- shashika has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:07:44 <flo-retina> ah, gsoc application period is now open :) 19:08:10 <-- kramolnik has quit (Ping timeout) 19:08:40 --> dev_peace has joined #instantbird 19:11:54 <clokep_work> :) 19:13:10 <flo-retina> dev_peace: if you wanted to ask Mic questions about GSoC ideas where he's listed as the mentor, you can generally ask here and someone else will likely be able to answer 19:14:07 * clokep_work volunteers for a few minutes. 19:15:06 <dev_peace> I found the project "WebRTC support" for InstantBird suitable to my skillset 19:15:47 <dev_peace> I am fimiliar with Javascript 19:17:24 <dev_peace> If provided resources I can get familiar with XPCOM and XUL too 19:17:53 <clokep_work> dev_peace: developer.mozilla.org has a lot of resources for XPCOM and XUL. 19:18:09 <dev_peace> previusly I have worked on a small WebRTC project for Wikimedia FOundation 19:19:37 <clokep_work> dev_peace: OK, so...are you familiar with what we want to do with it in Instantbird? 19:20:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:20:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:21:18 <dev_peace> clokep_work: To add audio/video chat support and also provide a neat interface for the video chat( My interpretation ) 19:22:47 * clokep_work pokes Mic 19:22:53 * clokep_work tags Mic 19:22:55 <clokep_work> You're in! 19:23:53 <dev_peace> Thanks clokep_work ! 19:24:47 <Mic> Hello! 19:25:02 <dev_peace> Hello Mic! 19:25:25 <dev_peace> Mic should I introduce myself first ? 19:26:06 <Mic> If you like :) 19:27:28 <dev_peace> Mic :I am Rahul Maliakkal a 4th year undergrad from India! I want to participate with mozilla in this year's GSoC. My skill set consists of JS, jquery, html, css 19:27:53 <dev_peace> Mic: I went through the project list and found 2 projects to my liking 19:29:36 <Mic> One of which seems to be the WebRTC project :) 19:29:48 <Mic> Which is the other one that you found interesting if I may ask? 19:30:03 <dev_peace> Mic: Browsercast 19:32:05 <Mic> Ah, OK. I'm an Instantbird contributor from Germany and I've mentored a student during last years GSoC already. 19:32:50 <dev_peace> Mic: oh thats great, do we have students working on this project ? 19:34:29 <Mic> There are people interested in our projects of course but who's working on the projects will only turn out after the application period/decision process. 19:34:29 <dev_peace> Mic : I actually attended an Open Source conference( FOSSASIA ) where the mozilla guys managed to catch my attention, so I thought of giving it a try. I interned with Wikimedia Foundation as a part of GSoC 2013 19:34:45 <flo-retina> dev_peace: n hnt11, q headen, w nayes are all former Instantbird GSoC students. 19:35:12 * nhnt11 waves 19:35:29 <dev_peace> flo-retina: Thanks for the heads up! 19:35:30 <flo-retina> hmm, I think I misunderstood "this project" as 'Instantbird" rather than "the WebRTC integration" :-] 19:36:12 * dev_peace hello nhnt11 19:36:40 <dev_peace> Mic: so where do I get started? 19:36:42 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:37:30 <dev_peace> flo-retina: I hope I am not in the wrong IRC channel then 19:38:48 <flo-retina> dev_peace: nah, that was just when you asked "do we have students working on this project ?" and my answer meant "yes, we had students who worked on Instantbird and are still active." 19:39:06 <Mic> We usually ask people to start by using Instantbird, then to pick a bug to familiarize themselves with the Instantbird codebase and our development process (involving the necessary tools like how to work with the repository, code search tools, Bugzilla, code reviews,...) 19:42:37 <dev_peace> Mic : Okay sure, where can I find the instantbird codebase ( Hopefully it is documented well )? 19:42:56 <Mic> You can start on the wiki at http://wiki.instantbird.org 19:44:39 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Do you know if bug 769562 is still an issue? 19:44:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769562 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Unexpected message: "Error: No such tab mode: chat" 19:44:57 <Mic> dev_peace: we want to have video/voice integrating well with our existing application, so it would be great if you familiarize yourself with IB by using it and getting a feel for it. 19:45:32 <dev_peace> Mic : I downloaded instantbird from http://instantbird.com/download-all.html 19:46:06 <flo-retina> clokep_work: my comment 2 there seems to indicate I thought in 2012 that the involved code no longer existed 19:46:22 <Mic> dev_peace: on which OS are you? 19:46:24 <clokep_work> That was my understanding too. :) 19:47:03 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 19:48:19 <dev_peace> Mic: I have a dual boot Windows/debian 19:50:15 <Mic> OK, you can also pick a nightly build from here (instead of the latest release): http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2014/03/ 19:50:53 <Mic> There should be recent Windows builds, for a Linux one you'd need to go back day by day and see and there was the last one. 19:52:35 <clokep_work> So you can try our Instantbird for IRC instead of Pidgin. ;) 19:53:15 <dev_peace> clokep_work: how did you figure that out? ( Genius ) 19:53:27 <clokep_work> dev_peace: /whois 19:53:39 <clokep_work> + some guess work since all libpurple clients return the same thing. 19:53:46 <clokep_work> But you're not on Mac, so it wasn't adium. 19:53:55 <clokep_work> And Empathy has it's own IRC code, IIRC. 19:53:59 <Mic> "/version" 19:54:04 <clokep_work> So...either Pidgin or Finch...and who uses Finch. ;) 19:54:46 <dev_peace> clokep_work > Sherlock 19:55:02 <clokep_work> Mic: Still only returns "Purple IRC" ;) 19:55:30 <flo-retina> dev_peace: clokep is the initial author of our IRC code; he knows more than anybody else about IRC ;). 19:56:32 <dev_peace> flo-retina: I am talking to some great people here !! ( feeling honoured ) 19:57:37 <clokep_work> "more than anybody else" is probably a stretch. But anybody here...maybe. :-D 19:58:06 <dev_peace> Mic: When are you generally active on the IRC ( time )? 19:58:27 <clokep_work> Most people here are somewhere between UTC+1 and UTC-5. 19:58:32 <Mic> I'm mainly in the morning and evening of UTC+1. 19:59:11 <dev_peace> Mic and clokep_work : I hope you dont mind me pinging you guys often! 19:59:41 <Mic> dev_peace: just ask here. Someone will answer (hopefully sooner than later). 20:00:09 <flo-retina> dev_peace: you can usually ask questions even if the people you wanted to talk to aren't around. There's a public log (see the topic), and we read it. 20:00:25 <dev_peace> Mic and flo-retina : yep got it ! 20:00:27 <clokep_work> dev_peace: Nope. Instantbird is good at handling pings. ;) 20:01:13 <dev_peace> clokep_work: Ironic isnt it to see #instantbird on pidgin? 20:01:43 <flo-retina> not worse than mibbit ;) 20:02:24 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: So easy...but yet complicated.) 20:08:41 <-- dev_peace has left #instantbird () 20:16:07 * nhnt11 wonders what's up with the Participants list here: http://puu.sh/7quul.png 20:16:24 <flo-retina> ouch :( 20:19:52 --> dev_peace has joined #instantbird 20:19:52 <nhnt11> Good night 20:20:20 <qheaden> Nite 20:24:40 <dev_peace> I downloaded the desktop launcher for instantbird and tried starting it, but it refuses to load 20:25:23 <qheaden> clokep_work: I'm going to try to write a patch for icon removal. 20:25:26 <clokep_work> You'll need to be more specific: What OS? What's the error? 20:25:31 <clokep_work> qheaden: Cool, r? me. 20:25:41 <Mic> nhnt11: I've seen that too. 20:25:59 <Mic> aleth_web: ^ 20:26:07 <Mic> You might be interested? 20:27:12 <qheaden> clokep_work: When an icon is removed, null data is passed to the user-icon-changed observer? 20:29:10 <clokep_work> qheaden: Yes, sir! 20:29:22 <qheaden> :) 20:29:36 <Mic> dev_peace: what's the "desktop launcher"? And as cloke p said: you'll need to provide additional information if we should be able to help... 20:31:02 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 20:34:40 <clokep_work> aleth_web: Ping. 20:38:41 <dev_peace> https://dpaste.de/uDpd This is what I wrote 20:39:03 <dev_peace> but the desktop launcher does not seem to be working 20:40:25 <EionRobb> is instantbird-1.6a1pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 compiled or uncompiled code? 20:42:05 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 20:42:21 * qheaden was very confused to see only the JS implemented protocols in the comm-central version of Instantbird. 20:42:31 <Mic> EionRobb, dev_peace: that's a nightly as you can download it from nightly.instantbird.im. 20:42:44 <dev_peace> EionRobb: Not sure! I downloaded it from http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2014/03/2014-03-02-04-instantbird/ 20:42:47 <Mic> I don't think we have source tarballs for nightlies anywhere... 20:43:40 <Mook_as> EionRobb: compiled; otherwise the os/cpu wouldn't be there. 20:44:35 <Mic> dev_peace: have you tried running it directly? 20:44:51 <EionRobb> Mook_as: it could be OS specific source :P 20:45:22 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Why do you ask? 20:46:28 <EionRobb> clokep_work: because trying to execute uncompiled source is tricky :) 20:47:14 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Does that mean you're trying Instantbird? :P 20:47:45 <EionRobb> clokep_work: goodness no! I was just wondering if that had anything to do with dev_peace's problem 20:48:28 <Mic> EionRobb: Join us! 20:48:29 <Mic> We've got cookies! 20:48:35 * clokep_work wonders what protocol gitter.im uses... 20:48:36 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:49:23 <-- GeKo has quit (Z:lined (dronebot)) 20:49:34 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 20:52:18 * flo-retina wonders if EionRobb has ever tried Instantbird 20:52:24 <qheaden> clokep_work: So... It looks like we shouldn't have commented out xfer_host and xfer_port options in yahoo.js 20:52:33 <qheaden> The icon uploading code needs it. :-S 20:52:44 <EionRobb> flo-retina: I tried it back in the day when you still had abi compatibility with libpurple plugins :) 20:52:51 <flo-retina> qheaden: why would the user customize these values? 20:53:02 <flo-retina> EionRobb: that means 'no' ;). 20:53:15 <dev_peace> Mic : how do i run it directly? 20:53:27 <flo-retina> EionRobb: I'm trying to remember if we _ever_ got _working_ abi compatibility. 20:53:29 <qheaden> flo-retina: They wouldn't. But I guess we need to hard code it into the file? 20:53:51 <EionRobb> flo-retina: it worked with the skype plugin, so.... maybe? :) 20:53:56 <flo-retina> qheaden: sure. And get rid of the commented out code 20:54:07 <clokep_work> qheaden: They should probably NOT be options though. 20:54:09 <qheaden> Okay. 20:54:23 <Mic> dev_peace: find the instantbird executable in the directory where you unpacked it too and run it with ./instantbird 20:56:39 <dev_peace> okay I tried that before but it failed to load XPCOM 20:57:31 <Mic> Can you pastebin the error? 20:57:43 <flo-retina> EionRobb: I have a hard time remembering when we fixed or broke it. 20:58:00 <flo-retina> I remember there were pretty bad thread safety issues on Windows 20:58:20 <flo-retina> and I don't think we fixed them before switching to msvc. 20:58:58 <dev_peace> https://dpaste.de/HHTb Mic 21:01:19 <Mic> flo-retina: ^- that's a 32bit/64bit problem? 21:03:21 <Mook_as> that's a "missing shared libraries" problem 21:03:29 <flo-retina> if Firefox starts; yes. 21:09:20 <dev_peace> there is some problem ! bug bug bug 21:12:18 <clokep_work> Fallen's first question when trying IB was "How do I sent my user for IRC?" :( 21:13:14 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I don't even understand the question :-S 21:13:23 <dev_peace> nor do I 21:13:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: nick@user!host, he wants to set his user like Mook_as always wants. 21:13:52 <flo-retina> ah, s/sent/set/ ! 21:14:16 <clokep_work> Tata. 21:14:24 <flo-retina> is he using a bouncer? 21:15:13 <dev_peace> flo-retina : is there a work around for the probllem? 21:15:42 <flo-retina> dev_peace: install the missing library 21:15:57 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 21:17:05 <Mic> dev_peace: you can also search the web for the error message. There are answers on "Ask Ubuntu" for example. Maybe they'll help. 21:18:44 <flo-retina> dev_peace: are you on Ubuntu? 21:19:41 <dev_peace> dev_peace: debian 21:20:07 <dev_peace> lol sorry flo-retina debian 21:20:57 <flo-retina> close enough, the solution may be the same 21:21:17 <Mic> One of the things you can be looking forward to: Instantbird knows better than adding a ping to yourself :) 21:21:38 <flo-retina> Mic: :-) 21:22:35 <flo-retina> dev_peace: try this: 21:22:35 <flo-retina> sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386 libpango1.0-0:i386 libcairo2:i386 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 libatk1.0-0:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 21:25:45 <Mic> bbl 21:30:45 <-- dev_peace has left #instantbird () 21:32:45 --> dev_peac1 has joined #instantbird 21:33:15 <dev_peac1> Mic, flo-retina: Done ! 21:33:37 <Mic> Great! :) 21:36:04 <-- mconley has quit (Quit: NO CARRIER) 21:37:34 <-- dev_peac1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:41:44 --> dev_peac1 has joined #instantbird 21:41:48 <dev_peac1> /msg NickServ confirm C9Px4Pykr 21:42:04 <dev_peac1> oops wrong place 21:43:15 <Mic> You mustn't have a leading space there... 21:43:31 <-- dev_peac1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:43:35 --> dev_peace1 has joined #instantbird 21:48:47 --> dev_peace has joined #instantbird 21:49:41 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 21:52:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 21:54:10 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:55:16 <dev_peace1> Mic: Thanks! okay and do you guys have beginners bugs? 21:58:16 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 21:58:58 <-- dev_peace has left #instantbird () 22:02:34 <Mic> There's a full list of our bugs on bugzilla.mozilla.org ("BMO"). Use this query in the quicksearch box: 22:02:34 <Mic> prod:Instantbird,"Chat Core" 22:03:23 <Mic> You can browse the list to get ideas what's in there. Once you have an idea what sort of bug would be interesting for you, ask again... 22:04:06 <Mic> e.g. "I'd like to fix an XMPP bug" and then we'd try to find a good first bug for you in this category. 22:04:55 <Mic> We don't have bugs explicitely labelled as "good first bug", so I can't point you to a list... 22:05:31 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:07:04 <dev_peace1> Mic: sure ! I am a learner at every step! 22:09:53 <Mic> OK, good. 22:09:53 <Mic> I'll be away for ~1h now. 22:16:15 --> Fallen has joined #instantbird 22:18:36 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 22:19:48 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 22:19:55 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 22:22:35 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 22:26:27 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:33:46 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 22:34:13 <dev_peace1> Mic : I'd like to fix something related to the Project, so that I get a good feel of things, so my choice would be "XMPP" and "Conversation". 22:34:25 <instantbot> New Chat Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 981884 filed by qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com. 22:54:31 <Fallen> is sending PASS a legacy thing? I'm surprised the "password" field in the account settings doesn't cause sending PASS, what does it do? 22:55:37 <Fallen> and I feel really uncomfortable setting my password in the prefs 22:59:50 <dev_peace1> Mic : could you reply to my previous message at rahul14m93@gmail.com with some reference as how to solve it and docs. It almost 5 am in India. See you tomorrow night! 23:00:06 <-- dev_peace1 has quit (Client exited) 23:01:12 <-- GeKo has quit (Z:lined (dronebot)) 23:01:18 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 23:09:33 <Mic> Fallen: hi 23:10:22 <Mic> I'm not familiar with the details (clokep wrote the IRC code) but I think we try several other method to authenticate before falling back to PASS. 23:15:23 <Mic> Fallen: why do you need PASS to be sent? Is this bouncer-related? 23:16:36 <Fallen> Mic: yes, znc 23:16:58 <Fallen> you don't fallback to PASS, I need to set .serverPassword in about:config 23:17:04 <Fallen> to the plaintext password 23:17:27 <Fallen> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8c055fcede9f 23:19:57 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:20:06 <Mic> hmm, strange. 23:20:10 <Mic> There's also: https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircNonStandard.jsm#30 23:25:46 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:25:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:25:49 <Fallen> Mic: hmm yes, I saw that too. My server is sending that text, but I guess something is not working 23:26:04 <Fallen> clokep: hi :) 23:26:14 <clokep> Fallen: Hello. 23:26:15 * clokep guesses he has to read the log. 23:26:18 <Mic> There's an IRC/ZNC question for you... 23:26:40 <Fallen> short version is, I can only connect if I set .serverPassword in the prefs 23:27:44 <Fallen> using 1.5, haven't tested the nightly builds 23:27:46 <clokep> Fallen: Possibly. It used to work using the password field. :-\ 23:27:59 <clokep> Apparently this broke at some point. 23:27:59 <clokep> but no one has given me a debug log for me to look at it. 23:28:11 <clokep> I don't have ZNC set up, I've never gotten it to work + it has a zillion options that change various things. 23:28:20 <clokep> And yes, PASS should be a legacy thing, it's better to use SASL. 23:29:33 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:30:05 <Fallen> I don't think znc supports that at login. I can surely provide you with an account 23:31:11 <clokep> Fallen: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircNonStandard.jsm#29 is the code that's more interesting btw. 23:32:23 <clokep> Fallen: That might work too. :) 23:32:38 <clokep> I'd like to eat dinner before looking at this though. :P 23:38:04 <Fallen> np, I need sleep soon anyway 23:38:12 <Fallen> I'll email you details 23:38:17 <Fallen> clokep: ^ 23:39:13 <clokep> Fallen: Thanks! :) 23:41:14 <clokep> Mic: I don't know the XMPP code well enough to know good "first" bugs. 23:42:14 * Mic neither. And even less at this time of the day ;) 23:42:23 <Mic> Good night! 23:43:57 <Fallen> thanks for the help you two, good night! 23:44:15 <Mic> I'll look through the list of XMPP bugs tomorrow. Maybe I can eliminate some and find something in the rest. 23:44:23 <Mic> The list of bugs is short from what I've seen. 23:44:33 <Mic> ~30 maybe? 23:46:33 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:49:10 <clokep> I looked today, nothing exciting... :-\ 23:50:23 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:57:42 <clokep> qheaden: Looks like the refresh you need on bug 955910 is trivial. :) 23:57:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955910 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Conference room numbers jump two values 23:58:56 <clokep> Yeah I went through all the protocols and marked things as good first bugs...