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08:44:58 <danielpiros> Hi all, I am having some problems with Instantbird and OSX
08:45:27 <danielpiros> the build finishes successfully, and the app starts without any problem (other than some warnings) still I see nothing on the screen
08:46:05 <danielpiros> This is the only thing I read on the CLI https://gist.github.com/PirosB3/9385205
08:55:58 <shrihari> Do you see the Instantbird menu?
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09:24:14 <danielpiros> hi Mic, I am trying to fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817596
09:24:17 <instantbot> Bug 817596 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Unable to parse nonce values from "jabber.ubuntu-fr.org"
09:24:42 <danielpiros> I am doing changes in the source code, precisely in chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp-authmechs.jsm
09:24:56 <danielpiros> but unfortunately, I am not sure the code is passing through there
09:25:11 <Mic> You're using Instantbird, right?
09:25:32 <danielpiros> when is the XMPP protocol used? I cannot find any Jabber option, only Facebook and Google Talk. Are they using XMPP?
09:26:28 <Mic> You mean you don't know how to set up an XMPP account?
09:28:16 <Mic> danielpiros: -^
09:28:40 <danielpiros> nope, I cannot find the options for it
09:28:47 <danielpiros> is there something I missed to compile?
09:30:47 <Mic> Account Manager->New Account->Show other protocols (at the end of the list)->XMPP
09:31:16 <Mic> You must have used that list to set up your IRC account already as it's only available from there btw.
09:32:04 <Mic> Ah, you aren't using Instantbird for IRC. How comes?
09:32:33 <danielpiros> can I add proxy with Instantbird?
09:32:43 <danielpiros> my uni firewall kills irc
09:32:58 <danielpiros> so I my server proxy. Although I could try ssh tunnel
09:34:17 <Mic> You can in the options dialog.
09:34:27 <Mic> Tools->Options/Preferences
09:34:41 <danielpiros> Mic, is it possible that I do not have XMPP?!
09:34:50 <Mic> To use js-xmpp make sure to *remove* prpl-jabber from chat.prpls.forcePurple.
09:34:54 <danielpiros> I only have
09:35:14 <danielpiros> Facebook Chat, Google Talk, IRC, Odnoklassniki (??!) and Twitter
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09:36:20 <flo-retina> danielpiros: on Mac you need to start mozilla/dist/InstantbirdDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/instantbird not mozilla/dist/bin/instantbird
09:36:37 <Mic> Did you edit the preference value chat.prpls.forcePurple (on about:config) by the way?
09:36:54 <danielpiros> I just did now
09:37:01 <danielpiros> ok will reboot
09:37:54 <danielpiros> omg so much better
09:38:04 <danielpiros> I actually have an icon now.
09:43:44 <Mic> danielpiros: there's a patch awaiting review in this bug already...
09:44:00 <danielpiros> Yes I know, I wanted to write a unit test for it
09:44:27 <danielpiros> Great, now I have XMPP. Thanks Mic 
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10:17:55 <Mic> danielpiros: you know about tools like MXR already?
10:19:14 <Mic> mayanktg: did using a deck for switching the content of the panel help?
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10:34:35 <danielpiros> nope :) Mic what is ti?
10:34:37 <danielpiros> it?
10:34:54 <Mic> A code search tool: https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/
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10:36:01 <Mic> Use /im/ as file path for the Instantbird files and /chat/ for the shared chat files.
10:36:06 <danielpiros> oh great, thanks. I am using grep currently
10:36:14 <danielpiros> What I am looking for is a debugger
10:36:34 <danielpiros> is there any way I can set breakpoints, inspect variables, ecc..
10:38:18 <Mic> Afaik it's possible to connect Thunderbird remotely to the Firefox debugging tools. Maybe that works for IB too?
10:38:47 <Mic> clokep mentioned something like that during the last few days.
10:38:59 <Mic> Maybe look for it in the logs.
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11:11:52 <flo-retina> Mic: afaik that's 'possible'. But probably not really easy :-/
11:12:01 <flo-retina> Mic: I got it to work with Fallen's help during the summit.
11:12:16 <flo-retina> Mic: but we had to patch both the debugger and Instantbird in a couple places for that
11:12:49 <flo-retina> Mic: It's quite possible that all of this was only required because we were on a significantly outdated gecko though :)
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11:33:58 <clokep> danielpiros: You didn't have it by default because you're apparently compiling w/o libpurple.
11:35:11 <clokep> danielpiros: And yes, Instantbird can use a proxy (it's pretty obvious in the settings :-\), but JS protocols don't work through an HTTP proxy (something else someone can fix if they want!)
11:39:00 <flo-retina> has the string removal from bug 955737 ever landed?
11:39:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955737 nor, --, 1.5, florian, RESO FIXED, Port 'Bug 867465 - Remove "Revocation Lists" feature'
11:39:47 <danielpiros> clokep: thanks for the hint, if I install libpurple will it recompile everything with it? or do I have to provide some flags?
11:40:14 <clokep> danielpiros: You need to check out a repository into a certain location.
11:40:37 <danielpiros> I checked out c-c and m-c
11:40:42 <clokep> flo-retina: Doesn't look like it.
11:40:47 <clokep> danielpiros: Yeah, not those. ;)
11:40:53 <danielpiros> :)
11:41:12 <clokep> danielpiros: For what you're doing it's probably easier for you NOT to have it.
11:41:17 <clokep> So I wouldn't worry about it.
11:41:20 <flo-retina> clokep: we should ensure we don't forget that for the next release :-S
11:41:44 <danielpiros> clokep: then how do I assert it would work? just by unit tests?
11:42:09 <clokep> danielpiros: Someone who has issues logging in (i.e. me) can test it and tell you that. :)
11:42:21 <clokep> Or if you can reproduce that would work too.
11:42:47 <danielpiros> I could write failing tests, and then fixes for them
11:42:57 <danielpiros> then would you be able to test the functionality?
11:43:04 <clokep> Yes.
11:43:16 <danielpiros> still, it would be good to have it. is it hard to install?=
11:43:16 <clokep> That's the best way to write tests btw.
11:43:31 <clokep> danielpiros: I don't understand...the bug has NOTHING to do with libpurple. :-\
11:43:39 <clokep> It has to do with our JS-XMPP implementation.
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11:51:48 <clokep> danielpiros: OK, let me explain from the beginning. We use libpurple for some of our protocols, we use JavaScript implementations for others.
11:51:58 <clokep> Some protocols have implementations in BOTH, one of these is XMPP.
11:52:23 <danielpiros> thanks clokep 
11:52:24 <clokep> We use the JavaScript one for GTalk, Facebook and you can also us it for all XMPP by flipping the pref Mic told you to.
11:52:34 <danielpiros> yes I was looking at the source
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11:52:42 <clokep> danielpiros: That bug about the XMPP nonce is a bug in the JavaScript version, NOT in libpurple.
11:53:02 <danielpiros> oh now I understand
11:53:14 <danielpiros> why are there 2 implementations?
11:53:24 <clokep> Because we don't want to use libpurple.
11:53:33 <clokep> (Kind of, that's over stating it.)
11:53:49 <clokep> The JS ones are also licensed differently, which means TB can use them.
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11:55:21 <clokep> danielpiros: The goal would be to only use the JS one, see bug 955019
11:55:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955019 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace libpurple XMPP with JS-XMPP
11:55:57 <danielpiros> ok great
11:56:00 <danielpiros> thanks
11:57:03 <clokep> Hopefully that's clearer. :)
11:57:17 <clokep> Please let us know if you have any questions btw, you can pastebin code / patches or upload them to the bug.
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12:02:42 <aleth> flo-retina: why not just land that string removal patch now if it's wanted?
12:03:04 <flo-retina> get commit access and do it? :)
12:03:59 <flo-retina> aleth: I feel a little bit guilty for pushing trivial things like that to c-c, as each push in im/ currently triggers Thunderbird builds and tests on all OSes (that's something that should be fixed, but nobody had time to look into it yet)
12:04:21 <aleth> I thought there was a DONTBUILD flag you could set somewhere?
12:04:27 <flo-retina> sure
12:04:34 <flo-retina> do we really want to have that in all our commit messages?
12:04:37 <aleth> Not sure how that works
12:04:43 <aleth> Oh, I see.
12:04:50 <flo-retina> aleth: you just put it in the commit message of the changeset
12:05:00 <aleth> It's a bit unfortunate that the flag is in the commit message :-/
12:05:15 <flo-retina> well, it makes sense
12:05:26 <aleth> If you want a record of it, I guess
12:07:34 <flo-retina> I'm sure I read the bug where these changes to have builds triggered only when a commit touched some folders were made
12:07:37 <flo-retina> I can't find it again :(
12:07:47 <flo-retina> typically, doing a checkin in suite/ doesn't trigger a tb build
12:08:39 <clokep> You can't even mark it checkin-needed since that patch won't apply.
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12:10:14 <mayanktg> Mic: yes it did..sorry for the delay..I had my mid term exams :-/
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12:10:33 <flo-retina> ah, found it!
12:10:38 <flo-retina> bug 752836
12:10:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752836 enh, P3, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't do Thunderbird builds on comm-* branches for non-Thunderbird pushes
12:10:50 <flo-retina> https://mxr.mozilla.org/build-central/source/buildbotcustom/misc.py#150 we need im/ added to that list
12:11:38 <mayanktg> I have created everything..just have to see the designing part ..and also how to use the image src and save it in the profile directory using the setUserIcon()
12:13:45 <flo-retina> btw, it's sad that I couldn't find this despite trying at least 6 different bugzilla searches with different keywords
12:13:51 <flo-retina> but that it was Google's very first result :(
12:15:29 <Mic> mayanktg: no need to apologize, I only wanted to ask lest there's a problem and we don't know about it...
12:16:30 <mayanktg> Mic: yep :) I am able to capture the image, and trying to figure out how to save the image.
12:17:11 <aleth> flo-retina: That bug isn't marked fixed though, so is this just a hope for the future?
12:17:37 <Mic> mayanktg: is there an API to write an image from a canvas to disk or do you need to grab it from a data-url and write it yourself?
12:18:57 <mayanktg> using toDataURL we can fetch the url to the <image> but after that I think we have to use this source to save the image in the profile directory
12:19:20 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't know why the bug isn't fixed, but suite/ checkins don't trigger Tb builds
12:19:32 <mayanktg> canvas.toDataURL('image/png')
12:19:34 <flo-retina> aleth: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752836#c2
12:19:36 <instantbot> Bug 752836 enh, P3, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't do Thunderbird builds on comm-* branches for non-Thunderbird pushes
12:20:47 <aleth> I wonder if jcranmer is touching this in his ccrework patches
12:21:20 <Mic> mayanktg: you know how to proceed?
12:22:15 <mayanktg> Mic: I think I can figure it out.
12:22:21 <Mic> Good :)
12:23:11 <mayanktg> Mic: yep..If I'll have trouble, I'll ping you :)
12:24:14 <Mic> It would be great if you'd share a WIP with us, so we could give feedback early on
12:24:37 <mayanktg> Yes, will do that
12:25:14 <Mic> We'll know that it is a WIP, so don't worry if it's not as perfect as you'd like it to be yet...
12:26:36 <mayanktg> ya, I'll post it in an hour.
12:28:05 <Mic> Just do it anytime you please...
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12:49:22 <Mic> \o/
12:49:37 * Mic connected the Firefox-Debugger to Instantbird.
12:49:53 <aleth> gecko30 to the rescue? :)
12:50:03 <Mic> Maybe.
12:50:13 <aleth> Ah, did you have to patch it?
12:50:20 <Mic> I'll post the necessary calls on IB side in a pastebin.
12:50:25 <aleth> anyway, that's great news! 
12:50:32 <aleth> Put them on the wiki maybe?
12:50:43 <Mic> Put them in a patch? ;)
12:50:49 <aleth> :D
12:51:32 <aleth> Is it just adding the Tools menu entry so https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Kewisch/Thunderbird_Developer_Tools_Documentation can be followed?
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12:59:07 <Mic> http://i.imgur.com/dM8fr9Q.png
13:01:24 <clokep_work> Mic: Sweet! :)
13:02:10 <Mic> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/620940
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13:04:55 <nhnt11> Mic: :D
13:06:12 <clokep_work> Mic: Patch to add it to the tools menu? ;)
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13:08:50 * Mic just stepped through opening the context menu of a contact . Cool :)
13:09:23 <aleth> :)
13:12:18 <Mic> This is awesome :)
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13:13:35 <Mic> hmm, that was a crash. :(
13:19:35 <Mic> That's where I started from by the way: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=890348&attachment=775150
13:21:00 <Mic> Tbh I have no idea about "actors" and that stuff but it worked anyways ;)
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13:25:08 <flo-retina> "we can be sure the user interrupted himself." lol
13:28:54 <flo-retina> aleth: it's exciting to see a patch in bug 954270 :)
13:28:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954270 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Give new tabs opened via IRC commands focus
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13:45:04 <flo-retina> Mic: are you going to give mayanktg feedback about his WIP, or should someone else start commenting on it? :)
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13:47:24 <mayanktg> flo-retina: don't start commenting so soon, I'm still working on it and making changes :P
13:48:27 <flo-retina> the point of giving feedback is to help you decide which changes you want to do ;)
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13:49:01 <mayanktg> he he he. I know ;)
13:56:37 <aleth> nhnt11: I'm seeing lots of "aConv is null" errors from pastebinner
13:56:55 <aleth> (in addKeyListener)
13:57:00 <flo-retina> the secret strategy to get a fast review: write a patch that the reviewer is excited to try in the next nightly! ;)
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13:58:45 <aleth> flo-retina: :)
14:00:14 <aleth> mayanktg: nice to see your context menu in the latest nightly :)
14:00:57 <mayanktg> really! I didn't see that..let me check that :)
14:02:23 <flo-retina> bah, the CSS of the display name fields is broken on mac :(
14:02:33 <flo-retina> click it makes the text move a few px (2?) to the left :(
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15:05:00 <flo-retina> bug 976544 is so frustrating
15:05:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976544 nor, --, ---, florian, REOP, Intermittent | browser_get_user_media.js | Unexpected Exception: TypeError: PopupNotifications.panel
15:05:16 <flo-retina> I know my test fails intermittently... but I can't reproduce it. Even on the try server.
15:05:30 <flo-retina> I retriggered the test more than 100 times since yesterday. It's all green :(.
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15:13:18 <aleth> oh no, a Heisenbug ;)
15:20:47 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Contacts window bug 980340 filed by zefilipe.groups@gmail.com.
15:20:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=980340 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, navigation in  menus crashes if use gtk-qt-engine themes
15:21:26 <flo-retina> aleth: I would like it to be a Fixed bug ;)
15:21:30 <flo-retina> hopefully soon!
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15:44:07 * aleth wonders why the Linux nightly reports "gecko 25"
15:44:32 <aleth> (in the About dialog)
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15:44:44 <flo-retina> aleth: because it hasn't been updated?
15:44:59 <flo-retina> or have you just downloaded a fresh nightly?
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15:45:12 <aleth> flo-retina: downloaded today
15:45:31 <aleth> Maybe I should reinstall it.
15:45:41 <flo-retina> if you used the "latest-trunk" link... ;)
15:45:55 <aleth> This was the automatic updater.
15:46:20 <flo-retina> what's the build id in the about dialog?
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15:51:43 <aleth> flo-retina: A reinstall fixed it.
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16:22:50 <Mic> mayanktg: I have your panel instead of the menu but need a webcam to test it.
16:22:52 <Mic> bbl.
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16:24:45 <mayanktg> Mic: the webcam is working for me. But I'm unable to have a proper resolution picture (here its 128X128). I'm trying to fix it. 
16:25:16 <aleth> mayanktg: I think Mic meant he hasn't got a webcam on the computer he is using ;)
16:26:44 <mayanktg> aleth: yes. I got that :D no one believes until they try things themselves ;)
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16:49:36 <aleth> Mic: Did you see bug 876636? There might be some useful patches in the bugs linked from there.
16:49:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876636 nor, --, ---, philipp, RESO FIXED, [GSoC 2013] Make Firefox Developer Tools compatible to Thunderbird [meta]
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17:35:13 <flo-retina> uh, I have a message that arrived 31 minutes after the previous one... and the 2 bubbles are touching each other :-S
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20:09:47 <nhnt11> aleth: I know about that error :(
20:10:13 <nhnt11> I haven't seen it recently though
20:12:43 <Mic> The Windows nightly build has white close icons on the tabs now. On hover they get a flat red background.
20:13:32 * nhnt11 wonders what that looks like
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20:24:28 <Mic> nhnt11: http://i.imgur.com/j3YlITJ.png
20:25:08 <nhnt11> Hmm. The red hover one is nice.
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20:43:19 <nhnt11> I should remember to run client.py checkout more often
20:43:27 <nhnt11> Maybe a cron job is in order...
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22:04:56 <clokep_work> aleth_web: You can probably just throw a reverse() call in there. :)
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22:37:44 * flo-retina doesn't see why focusing the first conv would be a better UX than focusing the last, but doesn't really care either way.
22:39:49 <flo-retina> tbh, if I wrote the patch, I would have focused the last conv, because as a user, my mental model of "/join #foo #bar" is equivalent to "/join #foo<return>/join #bar" which would result in getting #bar focused.
22:40:18 <flo-retina> but again, I don't really care :)
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22:56:53 <flo-retina> clokep_work: ping just to ensure you'll read the log :)
22:57:58 <clokep_work> flo-retina: If you guys both feel that's better I don't have a strong feeling.
22:58:04 <clokep_work> Just seemed weird to me to focus the last one.
22:58:12 <clokep_work> I don't really care as long as it doesn't have to flip through all of them. ;)
22:58:29 <flo-retina> ouch
22:58:43 <flo-retina> "as long as it doesn't have to flip through all of them" just made me think of an awful edge case :(
22:59:12 <flo-retina> what if one of the channels you are joining (one in the middle of the list) was on hold the last time you joined it?
23:16:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: :( That's frustrating.
23:16:20 <clokep_work> Maybe it should return a list of conversations? :P
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