#instantbird log on 03 05 2014

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02:29:50 <I_stephen> Hey guys
02:30:37 <I_stephen> just a minor problem with the nightly build, if I turn off show offline contacts, they're still there
02:30:59 <I_stephen> version 1.6a1pre (20140304041824)
02:36:01 <clokep> I_stephen: Any errors in the reror console?
02:36:19 <clokep> "this.contact is undefined"?
02:36:22 <clokep> yeah, I can reproduce that...
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02:41:34 <I_stephen> thanks clokey
02:42:02 * clokep thought there was a similar bug filed already but I can't find it. :(
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03:26:13 <I_stephen> Could not read chrome manifest 'file:///C:/Program%20Files/Instantbird/extensions/%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D/chrome.manifest'.
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03:35:13 <I_stephen> and yes, I get that "this contact is undefined message in the eror console
03:35:23 <I_stephen> error
03:35:56 <I_stephen> anyways, I have to go now. I'll talk to you later
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04:24:59 <Mook> So nobody else needs to check: yep, that's the default extension. sort of expected.
04:25:12 <Mook> err, default _theme_.
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08:38:03 <flo-retina> Mook: I wouldn't check for that, that error has been around for years
08:38:15 <flo-retina> it's just surprising that nobody fixed it just to no longer see it mentioned on IRC :)
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10:30:29 <flo-retina> about:memory in current nightlies is much more interesting than it was in moz25: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/4476712
10:31:29 <flo-retina> out of the 16.7MB of ibConvStatsService.js, we learn that 4.8MB is Function objects, and 4.8MB is XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass objects. And another 1.4MB is XPCWrappedNative_NoHelper
10:31:45 <flo-retina> would be great to figure out what these are, and see how we can reduce memory usage
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10:32:14 <flo-retina> especially for the function case, I wonder if this isn't something that we duplicate, but that could be once in a prototype somewhere ;)
10:32:20 <flo-retina> nhnt11: ^^^
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11:30:46 * clokep also ran into the tooltip taking too long to ocmpute issue. :(
11:31:28 <flo-retina> it's all related!
11:31:32 * flo-retina wants this mess to have unit tests
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11:35:58 <flo-retina> this morning when I left my house, I found on the street a guy looking at my house and more generally the street and taking notes about the number of each house on the street. I talked to him a bit, and he explained that he's working on plans for FTTH installation. He seemed to think that about a year from now the whole neighborhood will have FTTH.
11:39:47 <flo-retina> apparently once they are done setting that up, it would be possible to have a gigabit internet connection
11:42:09 <clokep> You excited? :P
11:42:24 <flo-retina> I was this morning
11:42:51 <flo-retina> now that I've started poking at my intermittent getUserMedia tests again, my happiness level has dropped
11:43:49 <clokep> Hmm...I get a bunch of undefined external symbols when building the null prpl. :-\
11:44:03 <flo-retina> pastebin?
11:44:06 <clokep> Has anyone else tried to do this yet?
11:44:24 <flo-retina> isn't this built by default with --enable-debug?
11:44:46 <clokep> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/619179
11:44:51 <clokep> Yes, I haven' tmade a debug build in a long time.
11:45:16 <flo-retina> we should make buildbot do some everyday
11:45:24 <flo-retina> to be alerted when they are broken
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11:53:51 <flo-retina> clokep: that's strange, these are all libpurple symbols, they are expected to be part of ../../../purplexpcom/src/purplexpcom.lib
11:55:12 <clokep> flo-retina: All the other paths in that command are Windows style, would htat matter?
11:56:07 <flo-retina> can you have a look at DSO_LDOPTS	+= -DEF:../../libpurple/purple.def
11:56:08 <flo-retina> ?
11:57:00 <clokep> Sorry, I'm unsure what you mean.
11:57:15 <flo-retina> that's the file that declares all the symbols that need to be exported
11:58:36 <clokep> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/619180
11:58:57 <flo-retina> seems to be truncated by pastebin
11:59:13 <flo-retina> can you check if purple_account_is_connected is included?
11:59:18 <clokep> flo-retina: It is not.
11:59:32 <clokep> I see the problem I think...
11:59:33 <flo-retina> really? that's interesting!
12:00:03 <clokep> flo-retina: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/file/6b77268d791c/libpurple/Makefile.in#l71
12:00:09 <clokep> EXPORTS_libpurple is no longer defined.
12:00:13 <flo-retina> yeah
12:00:52 * clokep wonders if that purple.def stuff could be moved to the moz.build file.
12:01:21 <flo-retina> seems unlikely
12:02:00 <clokep> I need to get going.
12:02:38 <flo-retina> bah, the exported files aren't listed on backend.mk :(
12:02:51 <flo-retina> I wonder if there's an easy moz.build way to make a variable go there
12:09:35 <clokep> Ask #build? :-S
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12:54:25 <dufferZafar> is there a plugin that changes the task bar icon of instantbird when I recieve messages?
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12:57:32 <Mic> dufferZafar: no, afaik not.
13:01:30 <Mic> dufferZafar: on which OS are you?
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13:02:09 <clokep_work> dufferZafar: I'd kind of like a badge there w/ the # of messages, but haven't gotten around to playing w/ that.
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13:07:09 <dufferZafar> a badge would be great :)
13:07:21 <dufferZafar> I am on windows, btw
13:07:56 <dufferZafar> i've used HexChat, Pidgin, mIRC - all of them had it, so I'm used to it...
13:08:40 <dufferZafar> what do u use to get notified of incoming messages?
13:08:55 <dufferZafar> and whatif someone says my nick in a channel?
13:09:11 <dufferZafar> I'd love a sound notif.
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13:10:26 <flo-retina> dufferZafar: "I'd love a sound notif." isn't that the default behavior?
13:10:49 <dufferZafar> is it? 
13:10:57 <dufferZafar> I am not aware.. :3
13:11:00 <dufferZafar> sorry!
13:11:07 <dufferZafar> let me check
13:11:49 <dufferZafar> There are sounds for Messaging events, and Buddy events
13:12:10 <dufferZafar> the messaging ones, play it on every single msg.
13:12:20 <dufferZafar> whether sent or recieved
13:12:28 <dufferZafar> I guess.
13:12:32 <flo-retina> I think it also does a different sound when your nick is mentioned
13:12:44 <flo-retina> there's an add-on to have more detailed sound preferences
13:12:51 <dufferZafar> but a fine grain controlled would be nice
13:12:58 <Mic> dufferZafar: which Windows version is that? Currently people are using either Windows XP/Vista/7/8.x, that's making a difference ;)
13:13:32 <dufferZafar> yeah! I tried that addon,  but it wasn't compatible with IB v1.5
13:13:45 <dufferZafar> I am no Win 7 x64
13:13:48 <dufferZafar> on*
13:14:29 <Mic> Windows 7, that's making it easier, I think. 32/64bit doesn't really matter on Windows btw.
13:15:32 <Mic> clokep_work: did you ever experiment with icon overlays for the taskbar?
13:16:02 <Mic> I did long ago (when we added the jumplist options) and it wasn't working for me back then.
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13:46:23 <clokep_work> Mic: No.
13:46:27 <clokep_work> It should work now.
13:46:35 <clokep_work> Pidgin does not add an overlay by default btw, an add-on does it.
13:46:49 <clokep_work> I have no experience with HexChat and only awful experiences with mIRC. ;)
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13:49:41 <nhnt11> Hi!
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13:50:01 <Mic> Maybe I'll checkout the API later :)
13:50:54 <Mic> (the happy smiley was totally out of place if I remember the API correctly by the way)
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14:05:56 <clokep_work> It shouldn't be totally insane. :)
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14:08:03 <Mic> Maybe it is the API to add buttons to the Aero preview that I was thinking about...
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14:19:29 <clokep_work> Looks like only a few more days until the application period for GSoC.
14:19:44 <flo-retina> it's next week
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14:31:41 <clokep_work> Yeah, it's like 4 or 5 days from now.
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15:28:54 <clokep_work> Did we know what needs to eb ported for Linxu builds?
15:29:31 <clokep_work> Ah pango upgrade?
15:31:08 <flo-retina> yeah, needs pango 1.22
15:34:17 <aleth_web> Wasn't there a bug filed by gps where he attached a way to get a more or less configured centos6 distro?
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15:44:46 <flo-retina> aleth_web: yes, but the link he gave is now giving 404 errors :(
15:44:52 <flo-retina> aleth_web: and that was a 64bit VM
15:51:18 <aleth_web> So, the localeCompare issue got followed up by jcranmer and mconley last night and it turns out to only affect OSX builds with the 10.9 SDK. cf https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976183
15:51:20 <instantbot> Bug 976183 nor, --, Thunderbird 30.0, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Folder panes not being constructed (due to issue with 10.9 SDK).
15:53:29 <clokep_work> aleth_web: So that's unrelated to the issues we're having?
15:54:23 <aleth_web> Not at all (it should explain some of the errors I've been seeing)
15:54:50 <aleth_web> It means if you are building on 10.9 you must add a line to your mozconfig to build against the 10.8 SDK
15:55:05 <aleth_web> Of course it doesn't explain any of the issues with the nightly.
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17:04:51 <clokep_work> We should mark some things as mentored/good first bugs and see if we can get added to bugs ahoy...
17:07:36 <flo-retina> sure
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17:16:02 <aleth_web> shrihari: what are you stuck on with the topic patch?
17:18:24 <shrihari> aleth_web: With the XUL part of it. When I change the xul:description tag to have xbl:text=statusMessage instead of value=statusMessage, it messes up the other elements.
17:19:28 <aleth_web> Because it's multiline?
17:21:04 <clokep_work> My guess is you'll want to show a different element instead of resizing that element...but just an idea.
17:23:46 <shrihari> aleth_web: Yes
17:23:55 <shrihari> clokep_work: Yes, that's what I'm doing.
17:24:36 <shrihari> But, just putting a multi-line description tag there messes up the other elements.
17:25:27 <clokep_work> shrihari: I meant you'd want to (on hover) display an element on top of the current one, one that is floating above the other elements so it wouldn't touch them.
17:26:55 <shrihari> clokep_work: That's a good idea. I'll try that.
17:28:47 <aleth_web> shrihari: Alternatively you could try a deck for the bottom part of the conv-top
17:29:55 <aleth_web> The advantage of clokep's idea might be that the conversation doesn't get shifted downwards as it probably would for a deck
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17:32:56 <aleth_web> Unless there's some clever CSS trick... maybe Mic can think of one
17:35:13 <shrihari> Deck was my first option. But somehow the multi-line description tag in place of the single-line tag is affecting the layout of other elements.
17:37:16 <aleth_web> A screenshot would help. It's possible that you have to add some vboxes with flex attributes?
17:40:20 <shrihari> Yes, I should try that. I haven't got enough time to work on this. 
17:41:11 <shrihari> I'll try more and get back here if I'm stuck :)
17:42:43 <aleth_web> shrihari: Hmm, another thought: experiment with CSS layers (z-index) to get the expanded conv-top to overlap the conversation
17:43:42 <shrihari> aleth_web: It already overlaps the conversation. But not the participants list.
17:45:39 <shrihari> I wanted to ask this. How many different views are possible for conv-top and conversation?
17:45:50 <shrihari> For different protocols I mean.
17:46:20 <shrihari> Twitter and IRC are similar views.
17:46:49 <shrihari> Google Talk, Facebook (and Yahoo, MSN, AIM probably) are similar.
17:46:55 <shrihari> What about the other protocols?
17:47:06 <aleth_web> I'm not sure what you mean by "views". Nothing depends on the protocol.
17:47:19 <aleth_web> What matters is whether the conversation is a MUC or not.
17:47:30 <aleth_web> MUC = multi-user-chat, i.e. with a participant list.
17:48:04 <shrihari> Yeah, that's what I wanted to know.
17:48:10 <aleth_web> The conv-top has two different bindings which are switched depending on the window size.
17:48:22 <aleth_web> There's a media tag somewhere that does this.
17:48:40 <shrihari> So, there are two possible UIs - one for MUC. and one for normal chat.
17:48:57 <shrihari> aleth_web: Yeah. It's in instantbird.css and/or conversation.css
17:49:00 <aleth_web> Yes, but they use the same binding.
17:49:36 <shrihari> aleth_web: Conversation uses the same binding, but conv-top uses different bindings?
17:49:42 <aleth_web> Look for references to isChat in conversation.xml
17:50:23 <aleth_web> shrihari: Only depending on window size (the conv-top bindings are at the end of conversation.xml)
17:50:53 <shrihari> Okay, I'll do that. isChat is True for a normal chat and False for a MUC, right?
17:51:02 <shrihari> Got that !
17:51:03 <aleth_web> conv-info-small and conv-info-large iirc
17:51:12 <aleth_web> shrihari: The other way round ;)
17:51:44 <aleth_web> We usually say "chat" for MUC and "conversation" for either the general case or for a two-person conversation
17:52:21 <shrihari> Oh okay! :)
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18:25:56 * nhnt11 looks at ibConvStatsService.js http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m93
18:27:50 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Is there a way to get more details about memory usage? I forget if the profiler shows memory stuff as well
18:28:00 <flo-retina> it doesn't
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18:42:38 <aleth_web> http://fitzgeraldnick.com/weblog/54/ sounds interesting
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19:28:27 * clokep_work finds that test failure infuriating. :(
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19:48:28 <Mic> pah, I hate when you do that @ http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today#m273 ;)
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20:12:57 <clokep_work> Hello arlolra. :)
20:13:07 <arlolra> howdy
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22:18:14 <flo-retina> my debug build tells me "Error: this._account.normalize is not a function Source File: resource:///modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm Line: 284"
22:22:51 <flo-retina> and I also have that "Error decoding nonce" with the jabber.org account :(
22:25:37 <flo-retina> ah, that first error is coming from the stats service: [Exception... "[JavaScript Error: "this._account.normalize is not a function" {file: "resource:///modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm" line: 284}]]' when calling method: [imIAccountBuddy::normalizedName]" location: "JS frame :: file:///.../components/ibConvStatsService.js :: PossibleConvFromContact.prototype.buddyIds :: line 695"  data: yes]
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22:30:50 <clokep_work> :(
22:30:55 <clokep_work> nhnt11: ^
22:32:58 <flo-retina> clokep_work: well, it's not necessarily nhnt11's fault. Why would there be imIAccountBuddies without normalizedName method?
22:34:14 <clokep_work> I'm not sure.
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22:53:28 <flo-retina> ok, that this.contact is undefined error was stupid
22:53:43 <flo-retina> it's just that I'm a bad reviewer :(
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23:04:31 <clokep_work> Does that mean there's a patch coming?! :P
23:08:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Contacts window bug 980089 filed by florian@queze.net.
23:08:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=980089 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this.contact is undefined error each time a contact is removed from the list displayed in the contac
23:08:59 <flo-retina> clokep_work: no, that means the patch is waiting for your review :-P
23:09:53 <clokep_work> flo-retina: That's...very unfortunate. :(
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23:10:24 <flo-retina> I did think of this while reviewing
23:10:35 <flo-retina> but I suspect I mxr'ed "removeChild" instead of "remove" :(
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23:12:45 <flo-retina> so now... is this enough to explain all the issues we were seeing? :)
23:16:34 <clokep_work> I hope it was! :)
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23:16:43 <clokep_work> The problem w/ checking things in without nightly builds, eh?
23:16:50 <flo-retina> yeah...
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23:20:42 <instantbot> florian@queze.net changed the Resolution on bug 980089 from --- to FIXED.
23:20:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=980089 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this.contact is undefined error each time a contact is removed from the list displayed in the contac
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23:45:22 <clokep_work> :)
23:45:26 <clokep_work> And that's why you want commit privs. ;)
23:47:04 <flo-retina> uh?
23:47:27 <clokep_work> (So you can immediately commit things!)
23:47:38 <flo-retina> ah, sure
23:47:44 <flo-retina> unfortunately that doesn't fix the Linux issue
23:47:49 <clokep_work> Yeah. :-\
23:47:59 <clokep_work> I'm confused at whether we need to patch something or if we need to upgrade our machine.
23:48:00 <flo-retina> I've just tried installing the chromimu-pango package (and all its dependencies...)
23:48:09 <flo-retina> that provides the good version of the library
23:48:19 <flo-retina> but unfortunately, not the .pc file that would make pkg-config happy :(
23:48:25 <clokep_work> :-\
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