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00:00:14 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 00:10:33 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:16:28 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 01:25:58 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 01:39:40 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 01:46:49 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:53:09 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 02:10:57 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 02:11:10 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 03:27:11 <mayanktg> flo-retina: there? How can I embed <video> in XUL for adding webcam? Shall I use <html:video> its not recommended though :-o 03:28:22 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03:29:19 <nhnt11> mayanktg: You're up early ;) 03:29:54 <mayanktg> nhnt11: I wake up early! 03:29:54 * nhnt11 is late for class 03:29:55 <nhnt11> bbl 03:30:45 <mayanktg> nhnt11: you too :P sports fest is going in my college. None of my business :D 03:31:55 --> shashika has joined #instantbird 03:37:22 <shashika> mayanktg : yesterday again shutdown the machine :( 03:37:44 <shashika> Now I'm trying again 03:39:41 <mayanktg> shashika: we think you are having overheating issue with your system. Monitor your temp using some software 03:39:55 <Mook> Yeah, you'll probably need <html:video> 03:42:13 <mayanktg> Mook: ok. Will I be able to add WebRTC's getUserMedia API too in it? It isn't showing up the notification to enable Webcam 03:46:10 <shashika> mayanktg : Finally it worked :D 03:47:15 <mayanktg> build successful? so fast? 03:47:29 <shashika> no 03:47:42 <shashika> it took about more than 10 minitues 03:48:04 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 03:49:07 <mayanktg> then> 03:49:34 <shashika> what should I do 03:49:41 --> nhnt11-phone has joined #instantbird 03:50:39 <nhnt11-phone> shashika: what CPU do you have? Didn't you say it was a Pentium dual core? 03:50:46 <nhnt11-phone> Do you have an ssd? 03:50:54 <mayanktg> Try some method to cool down sys temp. else try on some other machine. 03:51:27 * nhnt11-phone thought shashika said his build completed in 10 minutes 03:52:07 <shashika> nhnt11-phone: no I haven't any ssd 03:52:25 <shashika> Yes, it is pentium dual core 03:52:43 <shashika> mayanktg: seems it built successfully 03:53:04 <nhnt11-phone> shashika: I really doubt your build was successful 03:53:25 <shashika> nhnt11-phone : :( 03:53:32 <nhnt11-phone> Unless it was continuing from wherever it left off after overheating every time 03:54:03 <Mook> pfft, my builds (instantbird 1.5) are taking ~ 4 hours 03:54:12 <nhnt11-phone> I'd guess a full build should take more than an hour for you 03:54:19 <nhnt11-phone> Mook: Windows? 03:54:32 <Mook> nhnt11-phone: Linux, building under KVM 03:54:44 <nhnt11-phone> Hmm 03:54:51 <Mook> (I'm playing with RPMs, and the east path there sets up a VM to build inside) 03:55:43 <shashika> nhnt11-phone: how can I check whether it is successfully built or not 03:55:57 <nhnt11-phone> shashika: it tells you 03:56:18 <nhnt11-phone> At the end it'll say something about the build being successful 03:56:40 <nhnt11-phone> If not there'll be errors. 03:57:12 <shashika> I used "make -f client.mk build" command 03:57:33 <nhnt11-phone> You should be doing $./mozilla/mach build 03:57:53 <shashika> It didn't work 03:58:04 <nhnt11-phone> What was the problem 03:58:49 <shashika> My command was wrong 03:58:59 <shashika> now it is working 03:59:04 <shashika> Let's see 03:59:09 <shashika> Thanks :) 04:00:04 <nhnt11-phone> You should really post your build logs here when they fail 04:00:16 <shashika> ok 04:00:23 <nhnt11-phone> Without a log we can't really help you use pastebin 04:00:30 <instant-buildbot> build #1077 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1077 04:00:31 <nhnt11-phone> http://pastebin.instantbird.org 04:01:05 <nhnt11-phone> Er. "Use pastebin" was supposed to be a separate sentence 04:02:18 <shashika> nhnt11-phone : ok thanks 04:02:42 <shashika> If any issues, I'll post to the pastebin 04:11:12 <-- nhnt11-phone has quit (Input/output error) 04:23:31 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:23:50 <Mook> okay, --^ failed at https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/modules/test/test_filtering.js?mark=218#207 because text-decoration: underline expands to a whole bunch of -moz- things. 04:55:16 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 04:55:49 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 04:57:23 <mayanktg> Mook: to you have any idea how can I get the option to "share/enable webcam" in xul? 04:57:55 <mayanktg> the xul window is opening correctly in Firefox but it isn't when I open it using instantbird :-/ 05:11:44 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:17:32 --> kramolnik has joined #instantbird 05:17:36 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 05:28:38 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:35:42 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:38:30 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:38:35 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: mayanktg) 05:38:43 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:38:44 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: mayanktg) 05:38:54 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:41:29 <nhnt11> mayanktg: pastebin some code? 05:43:58 <instant-buildbot> build #2042 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2042 05:44:11 <mayanktg> nhnt11: yupp 05:44:47 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:44:54 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:46:44 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:47:00 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:47:14 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:47:30 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:47:39 <mayanktg> nhnt11: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/605896 05:47:39 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:48:02 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 05:48:31 <mayanktg> nhnt11: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/605896 05:49:42 <mayanktg> The XUL window is working perfectly when opened in Firefox 05:50:36 <mayanktg> But the option to enable webcam doesn't turn up when it is opened with Ib 05:50:57 <nhnt11> mayanktg: What procedure are you following to open it in Fx? 05:51:03 <nhnt11> (and Ib) 05:51:15 <mayanktg> Also, did tried changing the src of the js script 05:51:59 <mayanktg> to open in firefox, I used the firefox addon. Then opened the takePicture.xul file with Firefox 05:52:53 <mayanktg> and for Ib: a window is opened from context menu I earlier created for changing the user icon 05:53:21 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Have you added the new files to jar.mn? 05:53:27 <mayanktg> yes 05:53:51 <mayanktg> like: content/instantbird/takePicture.xul and others 05:54:03 <nhnt11> Does the error console show anything? 05:54:31 <mayanktg> error console in firefox? 05:54:34 <nhnt11> Ib 05:55:00 <mayanktg> How to open that?? :-( 05:55:14 <nhnt11> Tools->Error Console on Mac 05:55:16 <mayanktg> I didn't know about it 05:55:21 <nhnt11> (or Cmd+shift+J) 05:55:55 <mayanktg> Thanks! 05:55:57 <mayanktg> got it!! :D 05:56:27 <mayanktg> navigator.getUsermedia is not a function : 05:56:57 <mayanktg> :) 05:57:03 <mayanktg> thanks a lot!! :D 05:57:28 <-- kramolnik has quit (Ping timeout) 05:57:32 <nhnt11> np 05:57:34 <-- shashika has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 05:57:35 * mayanktg is happy to know about error console!!! 05:58:43 --> shashika has joined #instantbird 05:59:38 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 06:00:17 <shashika> mayanktg : 06:00:30 <shashika> seems it built successfully 06:00:39 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Mac OS X already provides a dialog for choosing profile pictures/taking one with the webcam. You might want to see if there's a way to use it for better OS integration. I have no clue how feasible this is, or if it's possible, etc. Just a thought/suggestion. 06:00:48 <shashika> I added some power management tools 06:01:08 <nhnt11> shashika: "Seems it built successfully" - how does it seem so? 06:01:11 <nhnt11> Paste a build log please 06:01:25 <nhnt11> or at least, pastebin the last 10-20 lines of it. 06:01:36 <shashika> Packaging firstname.lastname@example.org... 3:16.02 0 compiler warnings present. 3:17.03 Overall system resources - Wall time: 194s; CPU: 55%; Read bytes: 688267264; Write bytes: 454406144; Read time: 227032; Write time: 4604184 Your build was successful! To view resource usage of the build, run |mach resource-usage|. Error running mach: ['build'] The error 06:01:54 <mayanktg> nhnt11: ok..I'll have a look at it. 06:02:10 <mayanktg> shashika: thats great :) 06:02:13 <nhnt11> shashika: So did you miss the part of that that says "error"? :P 06:02:37 <mayanktg> nhnt11: :P :P :P but ;) 06:02:54 <shashika> it is an exception ?? 06:02:59 <nhnt11> shashika: And that seems to be truncated, post the full thing to pastebin please? http://pastebin.instantbird.org 06:03:15 <shashika> ok 06:03:17 <shashika> :( 06:04:18 <shashika> Done 06:04:31 <nhnt11> ... 06:04:33 <nhnt11> link? 06:04:39 <mayanktg> nhnt11: the build was successful though? it can be in obj.../mozilla/dist/bin/instantbird ? 06:04:46 <shashika> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/605897 06:05:02 <shashika> ok I'll check 06:05:10 <nhnt11> shashika: Alright. your build was successful. 06:05:35 <shashika> sure?? 06:05:37 <mayanktg> :) 06:05:38 * nhnt11 missed the "Your build was successful!" in what you pasted earlier 06:05:48 <nhnt11> That's why we use pastebin... easier to read ;) 06:06:32 <shashika> nhnt11 : yeah 06:06:42 <shashika> what next? 06:06:45 <nhnt11> shashika: Your instantbird binary file will be in /home/shashika/Documents/comm-central/obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu/mozilla/dist/bin/ 06:06:49 <nhnt11> Go ahead and run it 06:07:06 <nhnt11> shashika: What's next is up to you. Find bugs, fix bugs, eat, sleep, repeat 06:08:29 <shashika> :) 06:08:35 <shashika> what is the run command 06:09:13 <shashika> can't I open the code through an IDE?? 06:09:22 <nhnt11> shashika: http://bit.ly/MSAIBG 06:09:27 <nhnt11> scnr 06:10:18 <nhnt11> You can use whatever editor you want, yes. 06:13:15 <shashika> ./instantbird command opened the instantbird application :) 06:13:52 <nhnt11> congrats 06:13:59 * nhnt11 will be back later.. 06:15:07 <shashika> so is there any path to open in an IDE ?? 06:16:43 --> kramolnik has joined #instantbird 06:17:08 <shashika> when I do some changes in the code, should I build the whole project again 06:17:22 <shashika> what is that procedure?? 06:18:08 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 06:19:10 <shashika> I'm focusing on file uploading feature 06:20:44 <mayanktg> shashika: help yourself. search about incremental builds, bug fixing and whatever you feel is necessary 06:21:32 <shashika> mayanktg: ok now the things up to me 06:21:36 <mayanktg> shashika: building was the first step :) 06:21:54 <shashika> I'll check on that 06:21:55 <shashika> :) 06:22:38 <mayanktg> shashika: everyone would help if we have troubles. but we should try first. :) 06:22:54 <shashika> ok :) 06:23:05 <shashika> I'll try my best 06:23:22 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 06:23:32 <shashika> Thanks a lot for your help :) 06:24:19 <mayanktg> Cheers :) 06:24:34 <shashika> :) 06:28:30 <mayanktg> nhnt11: I guess WebRTC is disabled. 06:28:42 <-- shashika has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 06:48:57 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 07:34:58 <-- kramolnik has quit (Ping timeout) 07:38:27 --> shashika has joined #instantbird 07:51:36 <instant-buildbot> build #1273 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1273 08:23:18 <-- mayanktg has quit (Ping timeout) 08:58:21 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:58:21 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:59:39 <Mic> mayanktg: sooner or later you might want to set up a publicly visible repository for your code. 08:59:48 <Mic> BitBucket offers free Mercurial repos. 09:11:47 <flo-retina> mayanktg: this is with your own build, right? Not a packaged build? 09:12:39 <flo-retina> mayanktg: I think you'll need to rebuild after adding MOZ_MEDIA_NAVIGATOR=1 in im/confvars.sh 09:24:35 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 09:29:43 <-- eson57 has left #instantbird () 09:31:30 <Mic> mayanktg: I think Chris Heilmann has an example of how to take snapshots with the webcam in his GitHub repo by the way. 09:33:12 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 09:35:39 <flo-retina> an example from anant: https://gist.github.com/anantn/1852070 09:36:24 <flo-retina> in that example, line 13 should be "video.mozSrcObject = stream;" 09:36:49 <flo-retina> (the .src properties only takes URL strings, not streams) 09:43:23 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 09:44:31 <Mic> https://github.com/codepo8/interaction-cam 09:45:48 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 09:47:10 <flo-retina> mayanktg: you've got reading material in the log ;) 09:47:44 <mayanktg> flo-retina: I was going through it~ 09:47:46 <mayanktg> :D 09:47:47 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 09:47:49 <flo-retina> :) 09:48:10 <mayanktg> thanks! I guess adding MOZ_MEDIA_NAVIGATOR=1 should work out 09:48:32 <mayanktg> Mic: I did see that link. Its a good reference 09:48:33 <mayanktg> :) 09:50:16 * flo-retina finds the code in the interaction-cam repo too verbose 09:50:25 <flo-retina> (for just an example) 09:54:17 <mayanktg> Mic: yes, I have a github account and one for Bitbucket too but its nactive.. I will do the setup today. Also I have to write blog posts? 09:55:07 <Mic> That was just a suggestion, not an order :D 09:55:52 <mayanktg> flo-retina: do i have to do an incremental build ( make -C im/ ) or complete im build?? 09:58:20 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 09:58:40 <mayanktg> Mic: he he he.Ok! I was active in Github lately. I used to blog during early college days, then i got bored ;) 09:59:17 <Mic> The webcam notification of Firefox.. is just a Firefox thing afaik. I expected that you could use the cam right away if we didn't implement a prompt ourselves? 09:59:22 <Mic> flo-retina: ^ ? 10:00:31 <Mic> I never blogged. clokep and flo do from time to time. 10:01:19 <Mic> GSoC participants are required to give frequent status updates though. 10:02:43 <Mic> I think qheade n even wrote daily logs and a weekly summary iirc 10:03:12 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 10:03:27 <mayanktg> Mic: I want to implement exactly the same, but I think for WebRTC you have to accept to make webcam/microphone work 10:03:28 <Mic> nhnt11's GSoC blog: http://awesometab.blogspot.de 10:03:29 <Mic> qheaden's GSoC blog: http://phaseshiftsoftware.com/blog/category/gsoc-2013-logs/ 10:04:19 <Mic> Imo clicking a "Take image with webcam" button shows the user's consent already... 10:04:23 <mayanktg> Mine is on octopress, though I lst my earlier blog posts cos of expired domain and domain host :( 10:05:17 <mayanktg> Mic: yep :/ I think there must be some method by which it can be bypassed. 10:10:19 <mayanktg> Mic: http://mayanktg.github.io i have some articles saved offline :) 10:17:11 <mayanktg> flo-retina: there? am is supposed to rebuild it? 10:19:58 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 10:27:00 <mayanktg> Mic: the permission notification can be disabled by setting /media.navigator.permission.disabled / to "true" ? 10:27:34 <mayanktg> can we put this in the confvars.h ??? 10:28:17 <Mic> I don't know if it is. I'd need to look that up and I'm busy at the moment and later this day. 10:28:30 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 10:28:31 <Mic> I won't have time to have a look before this evening (UTC). 10:28:53 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:28:54 <mayanktg> Mic: ok. Leave it then .I'll try on my own :) 10:29:02 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:29:07 <mayanktg> thankuu! 10:29:13 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:30:41 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 10:32:25 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 10:44:58 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 10:48:15 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:48:45 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 10:59:57 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:03:24 <flo-retina> mayanktg: you have to do a full rebuild after changing confvars.sh 11:03:47 <flo-retina> mayanktg: and don't bother with the permission stuff and media.navigator.permission.disabled, that's only relevant for webpages. chrome:// has access directly. 11:04:08 <mayanktg> flo-retina: ok..incremental build didn't help 11:04:10 <mayanktg> :P 11:04:23 <mayanktg> thanks :) hope it works. 11:04:57 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:05:35 <mayanktg> I was testing for webrtc, i'll try to create the whole function if webrtc works. 11:06:52 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 11:30:41 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:30:41 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:39:23 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:55:21 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 12:04:54 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:04:55 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:07:42 <clokep_work> nhnt11: The build should roughly start where it left off, yes. 12:11:01 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:32:59 <-- shashika has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:40:34 <-- rohandalvi has quit (Quit: ) 12:54:28 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:54:28 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:56:09 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:00:01 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:01:25 --> nhnt11-web has joined #instantbird 13:12:54 <instantbot> email@example.com changed the Resolution on bug 954688 from --- to WORKSFORME. 13:12:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954688 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, 'Undefined property' warnings in mozilla 13:13:05 * nhnt11-web has been wanting Filelink to work lately 13:13:20 <nhnt11-web> I wonder if I should apply for that project. 13:13:34 <aleth> That would be a good way to make it work :D 13:13:59 <clokep_work> aleth: Which bug is the Skype bug? 13:15:11 <nhnt11-web> flo-retina: Can the same mentor be assigned to muliple students? 13:16:09 <flo-retina> nhnt11-web: usually, no. 13:16:24 <flo-retina> nhnt11-web: we sometimes made exceptions 13:16:37 <nhnt11-web> Hmm 13:18:00 <aleth> clokep_work: bug 953999 13:18:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953999 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Skype protocol plugin 13:19:06 <aleth> nhnt11-web: My guess is that Filelink and the UI for it probably won't take all of 3 months, so there would be various directions one could develop that project or add to it 13:20:00 <nhnt11-web> Right 13:21:37 <flo-retina> aleth: in my mind the "FileLink" project includes adding ft support in at least JS-XMPP and JS-IRC, and possibly plugging the libpurple ft backend too 13:22:14 * nhnt11-web thought aleth was saying all of that may not take 3 months 13:22:16 <flo-retina> I would also be strongly tempted to push the student to do file transfer over WebRTC datachannel (a direction in which I'll push a student working on WebRTC audio/video calls if he finishes before the end of the summer) 13:22:25 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes, but it's not clear to me how complicated that will turn out to be. A lot depends on how easy it is to reuse the download panel code. 13:23:02 <aleth> The WebRTC data channel idea would be great 13:23:46 <aleth> nhnt11-web: All I'm saying is you can investigate and build your own preferred 3 month project combination ;) I think you have enough experience of the codebase to have a reasonable sense of what will be the main difficulties (and you can put them in your proposal) 13:24:09 <nhnt11-web> That's pretty tempting 13:26:13 <aleth> On the other hand it doesn't make sense to plan to cram in lots of stuff and then get pressed for time. 13:26:26 <nhnt11-web> Of course. 13:26:54 <nhnt11-web> I wonder if I should just write a proposal for one main project, and if that takes less than 3 months, just keep fixing bugs for the rest of the time 13:27:00 <nhnt11-web> scratch that, too informal. 13:27:38 <aleth> You can always flag things as "if time permits" as long as you are clear about how you intend to prioritize. 13:27:57 <nhnt11-web> Right 13:28:28 <aleth> Anyway, got to run to a meeting. 13:28:54 <nhnt11-web> And I have to study for tests :D 13:28:59 <flo-retina> nhnt11-web: tbh, among the things we discussed, the ideas that seemed the most exciting to me was the indfinite logs/log indexing stuff 13:29:50 <flo-retina> so if you write several good proposals and this one is among them, it will certainly have my preference. 13:30:09 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 13:30:28 * nhnt11-web keeps that in mind 13:30:47 <nhnt11-web> I personally want file transfers more than indexed logs though :P 13:31:02 <flo-retina> nhnt11-web: feel free to follow your preferences! 13:31:17 <flo-retina> nhnt11-web: the important thing is that you spend the summer doing something you enjoy doing ;) 13:31:27 <nhnt11-web> Right 13:31:29 <nhnt11-web> :) 13:31:44 * nhnt11-web notes that mibbit emoticons are kinda... bad 13:31:53 <flo-retina> I wouldn't be surprised if we could hack ft within a week if we were all focused on it at the same time 13:32:10 <nhnt11-web> Yeah, honestly it doesn't sound too complicated to me 13:32:22 <flo-retina> it doesn't seem a lot of effort compared to what we've just done with moving bugzilla, and changing the build system 13:32:40 * nhnt11-web applauds that 13:32:45 <clokep_work> I wouldn't be surprised either...especially if different people did different things, it's alos a very incremental project (i.e. once there's an interface I can probably do IRC DCC in a few days). 13:33:09 <flo-retina> I also see a lot of things in common between the ft and the WebRTC project 13:33:33 <nhnt11-web> I really want to think about the unified window idea and see if I can come up with something cool 13:33:47 <flo-retina> both involve discovering the capabilities on the other side, attempting to establish a p2p connection, fallbacks. Showing UI (likely a toolbar button) in the conv window. 13:34:02 * nhnt11-web is a sucker for desktop organization 13:35:02 <flo-retina> nhnt11-web: the unified window thing is something that can be hacked into an add-on within a day. So to make it a GSoC project, it needs to be a carefully thought through project, with really good integration ;). 13:35:32 <flo-retina> it's the kind of project where you can get 80% of the result for <5% of the work. 13:35:41 <nhnt11-web> Details, details :) 13:36:00 <nhnt11-web> It's why I'm weary to apply for it. I'd rather work on it outside of GSoC 13:51:02 <clokep_work> bug 817596 really begs for tests. :-\ 13:51:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817596 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Unable to parse nonce values from "jabber.ubuntu-fr.org" 13:55:15 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 13:58:37 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 14:02:09 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:05:26 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 14:08:25 <flo-retina> it does! 14:12:27 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:17:33 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 14:30:51 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:30:51 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:39:24 <clokep_work> Bleh, I want aleth's fix for sockets. :( 14:45:25 --> shashika has joined #instantbird 14:49:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I want nightlies! 14:51:14 * flo-retina is tired of seeing the progress bar when reopening a large channel on hold 14:52:17 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:57:18 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So let's get it done today so tomorrow we have a new nightly! 15:03:53 <flo-retina> you just volunteered to hack buildbot all night :-P 15:05:00 <-- nhnt11-web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:13:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:13:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:13:51 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:16:55 <aleth> flo-retina: Thanks for figuring out the Ubuntu 32b library list (we should probably update the FAQ with it). Of course it doesn't help if you can't install the libraries... 15:17:15 <flo-retina> are you in the latter case? 15:17:33 <flo-retina> someone on a newer ubuntu said he needed another one 15:18:09 <aleth> On some machines, yes. (Of course if we did have PPAs that would also not help for that situation) 15:18:47 <aleth> Anyway, I'll file a FAQ update bug. 15:20:18 <flo-retina> we may have 64 bit nightlies "soon" 15:20:26 <flo-retina> if we figure them out :) 15:32:55 <shashika> I built the instant bird 15:33:18 <shashika> I have no idea how to get involved 15:33:43 <aleth> shashika: Pick a bug and fix it? ;) 15:34:36 <shashika> where can I see source code 15:35:12 <aleth> If you built it, you /have/ the source code. 15:35:12 <shashika> which directory 15:35:20 <shashika> yeah 15:35:29 <aleth> in /im and /chat 15:37:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't wanna hack buildbot all night. :'( 15:40:58 <shashika> both /im and /chat ?? 15:41:34 <aleth> /chat is the code that is shared with Thunderbird. 15:41:35 <clokep_work> shashika: Yes. /chat is shared code with Thunderbird, /im is the actually Instantbird source. 15:42:10 <shashika> ok 15:42:45 <flo-retina> aleth: do we have a good wiki page explaining all that? 15:43:33 <aleth> flo-retina: I updated https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Compiling a bit, but it doesn't explain directories. 15:44:33 <aleth> shashika: This may be helpful https://blog.mozilla.org/jorendorff/2011/04/18/how-to-fix-a-bug-episode-434494-part-1/ 15:44:46 <clokep_work> aleth: It shouldn't. 15:48:11 <aleth> I added a minimalistic sentence. 15:52:37 <-- Armada has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:53:08 <clokep_work> Alright. 15:55:28 <instantbot> New Instantbird Servers - www.instantbird.com bug 976083 filed by firstname.lastname@example.org. 15:55:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976083 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Update FAQ to include required libraries for newer 64b Ubuntus 16:12:41 <-- ivan has quit (Ping timeout) 16:13:33 --> ivan has joined #instantbird 16:13:46 <nhnt11> aleth: You did the participant list context menu stuff right? 16:13:50 <nhnt11> Can we get a whois menu item? :P 16:14:07 <clokep_work> aleth: To do what? 16:14:11 <aleth> nhnt11: why, when you can just hover to get the tooltip? 16:14:30 * nhnt11 forgot about that 16:14:31 <nhnt11> Well, that was embarrassing 16:14:59 <aleth> There's a patch in the queue that will make that a bit better too. 16:31:14 <clokep_work> aleth: I can review a patch for the website btw. 16:31:50 <aleth> I can review it too ;) 16:31:54 <aleth> It needs to exist first... 16:32:27 * aleth wants to empty his review queue before doing anything else 16:36:27 <aleth> nhnt11: You can always apply with multiple gsoc proposals, but it's probably good if we know your preference ;) 16:37:07 <nhnt11> I'll definitely mention my preference if I submit multiple proposals, don't worry :) 16:38:29 <clokep_work> aleth: What's in it? 16:38:43 <aleth> The user icon patch. 16:40:19 <clokep_work> Ah. 16:41:50 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 16:59:05 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:59:13 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 16:59:28 <mayanktg> flo-retina: its working!! :D 16:59:39 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Screenshot? 16:59:40 <clokep_work> mayanktg: "it"? 16:59:45 <mayanktg> wait 16:59:54 <clokep_work> Ah, you had to rebuild w/ media enabled, right. 16:59:54 <aleth> mayanktg: That webcam idea sounds fun :) 17:02:02 <mayanktg> clokep_work: yep 17:04:01 <mayanktg> http://imgur.com/QxqjDsR 17:04:52 <nhnt11> Cool 17:04:53 <clokep_work> mayanktg: You could have smiled at least. ;) 17:04:55 <nhnt11> That's a lot of tabs ;) 17:04:55 <aleth> :) 17:05:01 <mayanktg> clokep_work: :P 17:05:09 <shashika> where I can find bugs related to instantbird 17:05:12 * aleth thinks someone needs to switch to Firefox and use tab groups ;) 17:05:24 * clokep_work thinks aleth is going to have more stuff in his patch queue soon. ;) 17:05:37 <clokep_work> shashika: On bugzilla.mozilla.org (see the topic). Under Instantbird and "Chat Core" products. 17:05:59 <shashika> when search in mozilla bugzilla, it asks some words 17:06:02 <shashika> thanks 17:06:08 <nhnt11> Tab groups is a feature I really should use more :( 17:06:08 <mayanktg> aleth: so I'm supposed to use Mozilla only products?? ;) 17:06:28 <aleth> mayanktg: No, nhnt11 and I were just looking at your impressive Chrome tabbar 17:06:40 <aleth> All the tabs look the same ;) 17:07:15 * nhnt11 has no clue how on earth mayanktg makes sense of that mess 17:07:22 <mayanktg> i like working with tabs..i close all at once after review :P 17:07:42 <nhnt11> I usually have >50 tabs open when I'm programming too. 17:07:55 <aleth> mayanktg: On Firefox, tabs have a minimum width so they stay distinguishable. 17:07:56 <nhnt11> The difference is I can make some sense of which one is which :P 17:08:10 <flo-retina> is it time to sell my Firefox add-on again? :-P 17:08:18 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Which one? 17:08:22 <clokep_work> shashika: You can do an advanced search for products, one second... 17:08:33 <flo-retina> nhnt11: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/autoclose-tabs/ 17:08:36 <mayanktg> i was working for my minor project. So had to study for that too 17:08:55 <aleth> mayanktg: I have way over 100 tabs open, but with tabgroups that's completely manageable 17:09:11 <aleth> Some people prefer different profiles of course. 17:09:21 <flo-retina> or windows 17:09:25 <mayanktg> aleth: I agree! you never know which page might help :) 17:09:27 <flo-retina> or computer :-P 17:09:28 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Omg 17:09:34 <nhnt11> I have needed that addon 17:09:35 <nhnt11> for ages 17:09:38 <aleth> Screens ;) 17:09:47 <flo-retina> nhnt11: it's just a garbage collector for my tabs 17:09:58 <flo-retina> nhnt11: when I no longer remember a tab exists, the add-on closes it for me 17:10:07 <nhnt11> Yeah I understood what it does :P 17:10:27 <clokep_work> shashika: Search for |product:"Instantbird Servers",Instantbird,"Chat Core"| 17:10:32 <clokep_work> You can then add keywords after a space. 17:10:42 * nhnt11 installed it 17:13:50 <shashika> Got it :) 17:14:47 <aleth> Anyone seen a build fail with "make: *** No rule to make target `/Users/helvellyn/buildhg/cc1/mozilla/gfx/skia/src/core/SkBitmapProcState_matrixProcs.cpp', needed by `SkBitmapProcState_matrixProcs.o'. Stop." before? 17:14:59 <aleth> (with an up to date tree) 17:15:23 <clokep_work> Nope. 17:15:25 <flo-retina> no 17:15:39 <flo-retina> I would clobber and try again 17:31:59 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:34:43 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:35:07 <nhnt11> Hmm 17:35:12 <nhnt11> I just did a full build from a ramdisk 17:35:16 <nhnt11> 13m16s 17:35:25 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 17:35:37 <nhnt11> That's about a minute's improvement, not too impressive 17:40:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:40:12 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:53:30 <aleth> nhnt11: Your HD probably has a cache that is big enough to mean there aren't too many savings. 17:54:14 <nhnt11> I expect the improvement would be more noticeable over a mechanical hdd.. 17:55:26 <flo-retina> you don't have a ssd? 17:55:30 <-- shashika has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 17:55:36 --> kramolnik has joined #instantbird 17:57:07 <nhnt11> I do, hence a not-so-noticeable improvement 17:59:04 * mconley is now known as mconley|interview 18:00:47 <qheaden> Hello. 18:01:32 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 18:02:28 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 18:03:44 <aleth> qheaden: mayanktg was looking for you with some yahoo questions ;) 18:04:08 * qheaden gets nervous. :P 18:04:19 <qheaden> mayanktg: What questions did you have? 18:04:33 <flo-retina> qheaden: it was about removing the user's icon. 18:05:00 <qheaden> Hmm okay. 18:05:03 <mayanktg> qheaden: yes. whether yahoo supports user icon removal in any way? 18:05:27 <mayanktg> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/yahoo/yahoo-session.jsm#312 18:06:01 <qheaden> mayanktg: Great question. Yeah, it looks like the current code doesn't support removal. 18:06:13 <qheaden> I'll have to look at the protocol to figure out how icons are removed. 18:06:32 <qheaden> Most likely it involves passing null data of some kind. 18:07:03 <flo-retina> qheaden: does this mean that mayanktg should file a bug, and then not bother about JS-Yahoo? 18:07:14 <qheaden> Then again, I'm not sure if they support removal by just setting a default silhouette icon. 18:07:38 <qheaden> flo-retina: I suggest that mayanktg does file a bug under the JS-Yahoo category. 18:07:40 <aleth> clokep_work: What's up with those ctcp dequoting test failures? :-| 18:07:56 <mayanktg> qheaden: if I can know how this is done (or some idea) I can try fixing that in the same bug :-o 18:08:07 <flo-retina> aleth: what I heard is that xcpshell is randomly failing on c-c, and they are trying to blame us for it 18:08:17 <flo-retina> just because we wrote the first test that gets run :-P 18:08:25 <flo-retina> (or something along these lines) 18:08:31 <qheaden> mayanktg: Most likely the libpurple Yahoo implementation gives some clues as to how icon removal works. 18:08:31 <aleth> How convenient :P 18:08:49 <Mook_as> aleth: looks like text-decoration:underline expands to a bunch of -moz- things? 18:08:58 <nhnt11> aleth, flo-retina: Where are they blaming us? 18:09:00 <aleth> qheaden: It says "TODO" ;) 18:09:01 <flo-retina> Mook_as: you have a mozilla version mismatch 18:09:06 <nhnt11> (i.e. which irc channel, if that's where this discussion is happening?) 18:09:09 <qheaden> aleth: In libpurple? 18:09:24 <aleth> qheaden: Yes 18:09:28 <flo-retina> nhnt11: bugzilla 18:09:31 <mayanktg> qheaden: ok. I should take a look at it. 18:09:40 <Mook_as> flo-retina: if you mean menupopup wonkiness: umm, that was the 1.5 source tarball 18:09:50 <flo-retina> nhnt11: bug 975550 18:09:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975550 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /builds/slave/talos-slave/test/build/xpcshell/tests/chat/protocols/irc/test/t 18:09:56 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Thanks 18:10:01 <flo-retina> Mook_as: no, the css stuff you complain about 18:10:03 <aleth> qheaden: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/yahoo/yahoo_picture.c#542 18:10:07 <flo-retina> Mook_as: it's a change related to a mozilla version change 18:10:11 <qheaden> mayanktg: In that case, you would have to use something like Wireshark and the official Yahoo messenger to reverse engineer the messages sent back and forth during icon removal. 18:10:15 <Mook_as> flo-retina: oh. that's the buildbot from last night 18:10:59 <aleth> Mook_as: What does the text-underline thing refer to? 18:11:00 <flo-retina> Mook_as: http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/eeb7b4a893fb 18:11:00 <mayanktg> qheaden: :-o 18:11:00 <Mook_as> Oh. not bug 975550, though. 18:11:16 <qheaden> mayanktg: I can help you out on this though if you want to fix the bug. 18:11:30 <qheaden> mayanktg: Just start by filing one under JS-Yahoo. 18:11:52 <aleth> mayanktg: File a new bug for yahoo and mark it as blocking the existing user icon bug. 18:11:57 <nhnt11> Looks like mayanktg is getting to do quite some experimenting with that user icon bug :D 18:12:04 <mayanktg> qheaden: ok :) I'm interested..I will try. But I've never worked before on Wireshark 18:12:12 <aleth> nhnt11: good way to get around the codebase ;) 18:12:14 <flo-retina> aleth: don't bother with the text-underline stuff, I repllied 18:12:21 <Mook_as> specifically, http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/140224/#m61 18:12:52 <mayanktg> aleth: Doing it :P 18:13:11 <flo-retina> Mook_as: aaaah 18:13:25 <flo-retina> Mook_as: I thought you were asking about your own build for some linux distro 18:13:33 <Mook_as> flo-retina: ah, no, that's the menu wonkiness 18:13:40 <flo-retina> Mook_as: our buildbot is building stuff that won't work 18:13:45 <Mook_as> haha 18:14:03 <flo-retina> Mook_as: we applied some (most? all?) the changes in im/ and chat/ that were required before it merged into c-c 18:14:17 <flo-retina> Mook_as: but we did that without updating the mozilla version used in hg.instantbird.org 18:14:20 <flo-retina> so... 18:14:25 <flo-retina> no reason for that mess to build 18:14:28 <mayanktg> qheaden: JS - yahoo means Chat-core: Yahoo Messenger?? 18:14:32 <flo-retina> yes 18:14:36 <qheaden> Yep 18:14:50 <clokep_work> aleth: No idea. 18:14:58 <clokep_work> I'm ignoring that bug as far as I know it's not our issue... 18:15:05 <Mook_as> flo-retina: ah, okay. will ignore buildbot for now, then 18:15:16 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Can oyu like qheaden to the bug? 18:15:59 <mayanktg> clokep_work: ?? 18:16:55 <clokep_work> mayanktg: All the information you were giving over IRC was in the bug about removing icons... 18:16:57 <flo-retina> Mook_as: well, we are trying to motivate each other to point buildbot to the right repo and start building again 18:17:07 <flo-retina> Mook_as: it was expected to happen yesterday, or maybe tonight... 18:17:20 <flo-retina> Mook_as: and is more than likely to happen this week, because we are all starved for new nightlies ;) 18:17:32 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Yeah, I broke the world by pushing patches I shouldn't have. :( 18:17:47 <Mook_as> pfft. the world exists to be broken. 18:18:28 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you probably saved us a lot of server space 18:18:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: by avoiding 50 or so identical nightly per OS ;) 18:18:47 <mayanktg> qheaden: should I give heading as "Blocking the existing user icon removal bug " ? 18:19:06 <flo-retina> mayanktg: there's a "blocks" field in the bugzilla UI 18:19:19 <clokep_work> mayanktg: It should be named something like "JS-Yahoo doesn't implement icon removal" 18:19:23 <nhnt11> mayanktg: "Support user icon removal" 18:19:29 <nhnt11> Er, they beat me to it :] 18:19:32 <nhnt11> bbl 18:19:47 <mayanktg> flo-retina: ok :) I should get more familiar with Bugzilla :-/ 18:20:35 <flo-retina> sounds like it's what you are doing now ;) 18:21:20 <qheaden> :) 18:21:32 <mayanktg> everyday I learn something amazingly new! today it was MOZ_MEDIA_NAVIGATOR!! 18:22:28 <flo-retina> ah, I thought it was confvars.sh :) 18:22:41 <flo-retina> some day soon you'll learn about package-manifest.in :-/ 18:23:06 <mayanktg> flo-retina: :P i could have find it out in ages :( 18:23:14 <flo-retina> what? 18:23:26 <mayanktg> about confvars.sh :P 18:23:42 <flo-retina> why do you think I told you instead of letting you search? ;) 18:24:05 <mayanktg> hehehe 18:25:13 <Mook_as> huh, I thought I fixed that at some point. did it re-break? 18:25:35 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424]) 18:26:14 <flo-retina> Mook_as: fixed what? 18:26:26 <Mook_as> MOZ_MEDIA_NAVIGATOR disabled build failures 18:27:07 <flo-retina> Mook_as: it's not about a build failure. mayanktg is actually using getUserMedia within Instantbird to let the user create a user icon with the webcam. 18:27:18 <Mook_as> ah, okay 18:28:27 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:29:37 <aleth> mayanktg: Remember when you submit the patch for the webcam feature to mention or include the needed build system changes :) 18:30:09 <mayanktg> aleth: I will keep that in mine :) 18:30:40 <clokep_work> Include, please. 18:31:09 <mayanktg> *mind 18:31:49 <aleth> Right, include is better of course :) 18:33:22 * flo-retina wouldn't be against a separate patch. 18:33:56 <mayanktg> qheaden: is this okay? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/606639 I don't know what to write more :-/ 18:35:07 <qheaden> mayanktg: Looks great. 18:35:17 <mayanktg> :) 18:35:48 <instantbot> New Chat Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 976177 filed by email@example.com. 18:35:52 <clokep_work> It needs to at least be on the same bug. ;) 18:37:22 * qheaden is sorry for being quiet. He is busy doing some stuff on his job. 18:37:38 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 18:38:01 <mayanktg> qheaden: its okay. Do your work :) 18:41:17 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 18:41:22 <aleth> mayanktg: re onpopupshowing, the idea is to do something like https://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/content/menus.xul#47 18:41:47 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL/Attribute/onpopupshowing 18:42:16 <mayanktg> aleth: ok. I'm having a look at it. 18:45:29 <mayanktg> aleth: I have to put "Set..." instead of "Set.." ? :-o 18:46:57 <aleth> mayanktg: No, there is a special character for an ellipsis (i.e. for ...) which displays more nicely. 18:47:13 <aleth> You can copypaste it from one of the other dtd files where it is used. 18:47:17 <mayanktg> aleth: Ok! i'll find it out :) 18:48:51 <aleth> e.g. instantbird.dtd has a couple examples. 18:48:58 <mayanktg> yup 18:48:59 <mayanktg> seen 18:49:19 <mayanktg> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/locales/en-US/chrome/instantbird/instantbird.properties#146 ? 18:49:57 <aleth> Yes, that one. Notice it's a single character. 18:50:17 <mayanktg> yeah! 18:50:56 <aleth> Btw make sure your editor saves everything as utf-8 ;) 18:51:16 <mayanktg> yupp..it does. :) 18:54:53 <mayanktg> aleth: the yahoo js bug depends on user icon bug. So it will be marked fixed when I fix the yahoo one? :-o :-D 18:55:18 <aleth> mayanktg: It will be marked fixed when it lands in c-c ;) 18:55:44 <mayanktg> hehehe..ok! 18:56:34 <aleth> A dependency means that one has to land before the other so as not to break anything. 18:58:14 <mayanktg> aleth: yes That's why I confirmed. thanks a lot :) 18:58:15 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 19:01:04 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:01:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:03:35 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:03:35 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:06:06 * mconley|interview is now known as mconley 19:16:16 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 19:21:00 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 19:21:36 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:21:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:21:58 <Mic> Hola! 19:22:47 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:22:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:24:18 <clokep_work> Mic: Â¿CÃ³mo estÃ¡s? 19:24:52 <Mic> iMuy bien! :) 19:25:26 <Mic> That's a letter "i" btw because I don't have this reverse exclamation mark on my keyboard;) 19:25:38 <clokep_work> Mic: I used Bing translate. 19:25:46 <clokep_work> Mic: Did you ever get your build issues figured out? 19:25:57 <Mic> Yes, it's building fine now :) 19:26:11 <clokep_work> Excellent! :-D 19:26:19 <Mic> Thanks to flo and his build-stuff-voodoo-powers ;) 19:27:56 <mayanktg> Mic: cheers to him. he solved it like anything! 19:28:33 <Mic> mayanktg: I saw your screenshot! Very cool :) 19:28:41 <mayanktg> btw congrats for being listed as mentoring organization :) 19:28:48 <nhnt11> Oh the list is out? 19:29:10 <mayanktg> Mic: I didn't smile in that :-| 19:29:25 <mayanktg> nhnt11: ya...190 org this time.. Twitter! 19:29:32 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 19:29:35 <nhnt11> Interesting! 19:30:13 <flo-retina> I thought it was supposed to be announced half an hour from now :-S 19:30:23 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Are you saying you saw this news on twitter or that twitter is a mentoring org? 19:30:53 <mayanktg> Twitter is a mentoring organization this year 19:31:04 <mayanktg> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/twitter 19:31:11 <nhnt11> Okay so my "Interesting 19:31:15 <nhnt11> !" holds 19:32:56 <mayanktg> For the rest, I think most of them are participating for the first time. 19:33:04 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout) 19:33:39 * nhnt11 can't seem to load melange 19:34:19 <mayanktg> working fine out here :-o 19:35:40 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 19:35:48 <clokep_work> I'm pretty sure Twitter has done it previously... 19:37:18 <mayanktg> 2012? 19:38:06 * nhnt11 curses his internet connection 19:39:33 <flo-retina> nhnt11: don't worry, the list will still be on the website a few hours from now ;) 19:39:45 <flo-retina> nhnt11: or do you need to check yourself that Mozilla is listed? 19:39:54 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I'm curious 19:40:03 <nhnt11> also melange isn't quite the only thing that isn't loading ;) 19:42:10 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I've been told that criticizing melange in an org application is a magic receipe to get rejected, so I'll refrain from talking about how melange could be improved. 19:42:29 <flo-retina> (but yes, some of the pages could load faster :-|) 19:42:56 <nhnt11> Um, I meant my internet is slow in general, not just melange :P 19:44:04 <mayanktg> flo-retina: melange is loading peacefully! :) :D 19:46:08 <flo-retina> mayanktg: it's not down, that's already a great thing! :) 19:46:27 <flo-retina> mayanktg: I would expect the load on their servers to be much higher near the announcement of the selected students 19:46:45 * nhnt11 remembers finding out from Mic that he was selected 19:46:49 <flo-retina> and to continue to increase as they get late and more students keep rechecking over and over again :) 19:46:58 <flo-retina> nhnt11: really? 19:47:02 <nhnt11> Yeah 19:47:19 <nhnt11> It doesn't load the names in alphabetical order (which I didn't know at the time) 19:47:21 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I assume he told you only after the results were published? 19:47:26 <nhnt11> Yeah 19:47:27 <nhnt11> I mean 19:47:29 <nhnt11> I meant* 19:47:30 <mayanktg> one of my friend cried last to last year bacause her name didn't turn up until an hour :P ..I gave her the good news then!! :) 19:47:33 <nhnt11> I thought I was rejected 19:47:39 <nhnt11> Because it loaded all the 'N' names 19:47:40 <nhnt11> and I wasn't there 19:47:51 <nhnt11> And Mic assured me that I was :) 19:48:12 <flo-retina> we are not allowed to tell students anything about whether they are accepted before Google publishes the list, so don't ask us (even though we will likely know as soon as we have decided which mentor is taking which student ;)) 19:48:34 <nhnt11> I know 19:48:38 <nhnt11> I never bothered asking for that reason 19:49:10 <flo-retina> well, as soon as there's public evidence that the list is public, we can tell :) 19:49:34 * nhnt11 gives up on melange 19:49:40 <nhnt11> hasn't loaded a single org till now 19:49:41 <Mic> Oh, really. /me doesn't remember. 19:50:27 <nhnt11> Well it went something like that. 19:51:47 <nhnt11> Aha, I found it 19:51:49 <nhnt11> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130527#m293 19:51:49 <nhnt11> :D 19:51:50 <Mic> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130527/#m297 19:52:07 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:52:16 * Mic used Google Melange to lookup last years timeline to find the date of the log ;) 19:52:47 * nhnt11 googled "i will be your mentor site:log.bezut.info" 19:52:57 <mayanktg> nhnt11, Mic nostalgic :) 19:53:11 <nhnt11> I tend to remember how these kind of things were worded for some reason 20:11:04 <flo-retina> "YAHOOOOO!!! I'm accepted!!!!" :-D 20:11:38 <flo-retina> nhnt11: "first thing I did: wake my parents up" what time was it? 20:12:13 <mayanktg> I guess it would have been 1:00am. right nhnt11? 20:13:15 * flo-retina wouldn't have disturbed anybody's sleep for that. 20:13:41 <flo-retina> I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be well received if I called my parents in the middle of the night. Even to announce very good news. 20:14:18 <nhnt11> it was 12:30 am ish 20:14:22 <nhnt11> they weren't really asleep 20:14:31 <nhnt11> and they'd told me to let them know 20:14:46 <nhnt11> Also they were in the next bedroom so.. 20:15:07 <nhnt11> looks like atuljangra woke his parents up too :D 20:15:17 <nhnt11> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130527/#m319 20:16:33 <nhnt11> GSoC was a big thing from me that year, after first not getting into the university I wanted, and then not getting to major in Computer Science. 20:17:38 <flo-retina> When I received the first check from Google (which was actually my first pay check ever), I showed it to my grand parents. I was surprised by the reaction. I expected happiness. My grand father was actually shocked/terrified. He told me I should not accept it, and return it asap. :-D 20:18:03 <nhnt11> O_o 20:18:23 * nhnt11 showed the debit card to my grandparents and they were pretty happy for me 20:18:34 <nhnt11> It was my first paycheck too :D 20:18:49 <nhnt11> er, s/my/his and s/me/him 20:19:10 <flo-retina> nhnt11: context: He was English teacher. Apparently all his best students disappeared, by moving to the US where they were offered much more money for their work. 20:19:12 <mayanktg> I gave my first paycheck of intern to my parents! They were damn too happy :) 20:19:34 <flo-retina> he was scared that large American company (Google) was trying to 'buy' me, I would move there and he would never see me again. 20:19:39 <Mic> I never received a cheque. Cheques are totally uncommon here. 20:19:57 <flo-retina> Mic: I should send you one then! 20:20:07 * nhnt11 can't think of something to say other than "Awww" 20:20:20 <nhnt11> mayanktg: I bought my macbook and paid for a semester's tuition :) 20:21:10 <mayanktg> nhnt11: I paid for my semester's tuition too. it accounts to 180 USD :P 20:21:22 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I thought about him and how he would feel (he was already dead), when one year later I was sitting in an aircraft to SF for an internship. 20:21:45 <nhnt11> That's touching 20:21:54 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Your tuition fee is just $180? :O 20:22:16 <flo-retina> that _may_ be one of the reasons why I didn't decide to stay in Mountain View. 20:22:17 <Mic> If you receive money that's usually by cash transfer. You fill out a form (or do it via the online banking) and the bank transfers directly it to the receivers account. 20:22:35 <mayanktg> nhnt11: Govt. Engineering College Rs 11150 per sem. 20:22:38 <flo-retina> Mic: I thought that was the way to send text messages? :-P 20:23:10 <Mic> You can also add a custom text message to it, yes. If you send 0.01â¬forth and back that makes a nice and slow messaging system too :D 20:23:11 <nhnt11> I paid ~$1250, and that was excluding food/utility/hostel fees 20:23:44 * nhnt11 guesses this is still waaaaay cheaper than college in the US (not sure about europe) 20:24:07 <mayanktg> The govt funds the rest of the money. My hostel fees is 2700 per year. I didn't like to stay there :( 20:25:19 <mayanktg> Indeed it is. There's a story that Stanford's maintenance cost of one Pine tree at thier campus is equivalent to one student's annual fees! 20:26:09 * mayanktg didn't verify the fact. 20:48:38 * clokep_work complains about you guys writing too much. 20:51:05 * flo-retina complains about clokep complaining. 21:06:48 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: So easy...but yet complicated.) 21:10:20 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:41:40 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 Ð¸Ð»Ð¸ ÑÑÐ°ÑÑÐµ)) 22:01:16 <-- sabret00the has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:02:13 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 22:18:01 <flo-retina> clokep: I've got an IRC contact (my manager) who's status is showing as "unknown" in the awesometab (and she isn't shown at all in the contacts window). She's connected. Any idea of what could be going wrong? 22:26:07 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:31:04 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 23:03:02 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 23:03:03 <-- Armada has quit (Client exited) 23:08:04 <flo-retina> why is it always midnight when I'm finally ready to look at Ib stuff? :( 23:16:56 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:42:22 <flo-retina> any reason why the patch "5.2 - Convert prpl-rules.mk to prpl.py for use in moz.build" doesn't have a review request attached to it? 23:42:27 <flo-retina> I don't see anything wrong with it 23:42:33 <flo-retina> (ie. r=me if needed) 23:50:10 <-- kramolnik has quit (Ping timeout)