#instantbird log on 02 22 2014

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00:26:53 * flo-retina just spent almost 2 hours poking at about:memory and the code, filed bug 975639, and is now waiting for it to be triagged as "MemShrink:P2" and forgotten :-s
00:29:52 <flo-retina> instantbot: bug 975639
00:29:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975639 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, compartments for JS components stay around forever
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00:51:51 <flo-retina> ah, someone commented and cc'ed a bunch of people :)
00:51:59 <flo-retina> maybe it will get some attention
00:52:28 <flo-retina> (before someone decides it would save only a few dozen kB and the bug starts collecting dust)
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04:16:57 <instant-buildbot> build #2036 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2036
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07:41:17 <instant-buildbot> build #1271 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1271
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08:11:02 <shashika> Hi
08:11:39 <shashika> I'm hoping to do a GSOC project in this year and I've gone through the wiki page
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08:12:45 <shashika> I've found an interesting project in Instantbird FileLinks in IMs / File transfer
08:13:31 <shashika> I have some knowledge about file upload stuffs with javascript
08:14:04 <shashika> I need to familiar with instantbird code soon
08:14:34 <shashika> Where can I download the source code and familiar with it
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11:41:55 <mayanktg> mMic: There? seems qheaden is inactive since past few days. What should I do with the yahoo-seesion.jsm code :-/
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11:42:59 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Try emailing him?
11:43:27 <mayanktg> nhnt11: Ok 
11:44:01 <nhnt11> You could also probably request him for feedback on the bug, that will cause bugzilla to shoot him an email
11:44:12 <Mic> mayanktg: have you requested feedback from him already?
11:44:21 <Mic> Thanks, nhnt11 :)
11:44:33 <Mic> I'd consider that the better way.
11:44:49 <mayanktg> No I didn't
11:45:08 <nhnt11> mayanktg, Mic: Actually I'd say mark him for needinfo? :D
11:45:11 <nhnt11> BMO :)
11:45:21 <Mic> Good idea!
11:45:25 <mayanktg> Is it the same id as in Bugzila? qheaden@********software.com
11:45:41 <mayanktg> Okiess..doing marking him in BMO 
11:46:03 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Just start typing his name in the field. It'll pop up
11:46:05 <Mic> Most likely you can enter "qheaden" and BMO will suggest emails for you.
11:46:15 <mayanktg> yaa ..i did that
11:46:51 <mayanktg> Thanks :)
11:50:56 <Mic> oops, there's a feedback request from you (nhnt11) about "Filtering buddy list". That's even from before GSoC most likely?
11:51:03 <Mic> Bug 954067
11:51:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954067 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Filtering buddy list
11:51:26 <Mic> Is that still valid?
11:51:32 * nhnt11 takes a look
11:51:34 <Mic> Sorry...
11:52:09 <nhnt11> Haha
11:52:15 * nhnt11 isn't sure if it was before GSoC or what
11:52:18 <nhnt11> june 17th
11:52:23 <nhnt11> Likely during the bonding period?
11:52:40 <Mic> Yes, that must have been at the beginning of GSoC if I'm not mistaken.
11:53:14 * nhnt11 wonders if there's a setting to show the diff by default when he clicks an attachment link
11:53:40 <nhnt11> Mic: Just cancel the f? on that, I don't remember that patch at all
11:54:15 <nhnt11> O
11:54:25 <nhnt11> Typo sorry.
11:54:54 <nhnt11> Well if you have feedback on it... I guess it may be useful for if/when I (or someone else) decides to continue work on that...
11:55:03 * nhnt11 shrugs
11:55:26 <Mic> Ah, OK.
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11:59:15 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Re. this discussion: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/140221/#m200: open source is good fun, you'll possibly find the majority of your time is spent in doing things other than actually writing code :D
12:02:29 <mayanktg> nhnt11: indeed it is :) 
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13:24:56 <Mic> openSourcer: did you solve your Mercurial problems eventually?
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14:34:45 <flo-retina> "majority of your time is spent in doing things other than actually writing code" really?
14:34:58 <flo-retina> I would be curious if you could tell me how you think the time is spent
14:35:45 <flo-retina> or do you not include "read existing code" as a part of "writing code"?
14:38:31 <flo-retina> mayanktg: if you can't guess how that yahoo code is expected to work and can't get a timely reply, I think it will be ok to not fix the yahoo code for icon removal, and just file a bug in the yahoo component about it
14:39:08 <flo-retina> other peope you can try pinging if qheaden is busy are whoever reviewed that specific piece of code (I would assume clokep)
14:42:18 <flo-retina> bug 954067 looks like most of the work in figuring out that frequently feature is already done :-/
14:42:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954067 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Filtering buddy list
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14:48:28 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I wasn't including "read existing code" in it no
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14:49:26 <flo-retina> nhnt11: so the time you count as 'coding' is the type spent typing inside your editor?
14:50:10 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Well in that message I said "actually writing code"
14:50:38 <flo-retina> that's vague enough
14:50:42 <nhnt11> I don't interpret "coding" as "actually writing code" ("coding" would include reading documentation probably)
14:50:44 <flo-retina> it can include writing tests or not
14:50:53 <flo-retina> it can include anything that involves poking at code or not
14:52:00 <flo-retina> nhnt11: more generally, the sense of my question is that I'm interested about the differences between your expectations before joining, and what you found. And also if you think time is wasted in some areas and would be better used differently.
14:57:12 <nhnt11> hmm
14:57:29 <nhnt11> I don't think reading documentation is wasting time
14:58:09 <nhnt11> I was just saying that to a first time contributor, he may be surprised at the amount of stuff involved other than writing actual code
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15:01:50 <Mic> flo-retina: would something like https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Notifications:trunk belong on MDN theoretically?
15:05:16 <flo-retina> Mic: IMHO yes.
15:05:25 <flo-retina> especially as it looks like 90% of it is shared with Tb
15:05:39 <Mic> That's why I thought it could belong there.
15:05:58 <flo-retina> Mic: btw, if we could find some way to migrate all the content of wiki.i.o to wiki.m.o + MDN, that would make me happy.
15:06:02 <Mic> I just wasn't sure what's Mozillas stance regarding Tb docs is.
15:06:06 <flo-retina> but it's in no way a priority
15:06:14 <Mic> what
15:06:16 <Mic> *what
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15:06:44 <flo-retina> Mic: TB docs belong to MDN, but have been "left for the community to handle"
15:06:51 <flo-retina> ie. nobody's paid to work on it
15:10:53 <Mic> I could still file it (docs migration) as bug...
15:13:11 <instantbot> New Instantbird Servers - wiki.instantbird.org bug 975722 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
15:13:27 <clokep> mayanktg: You can use the "needinfo" flag on bugzilla too.
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15:14:26 <clokep> flo-retina: So what do I do with purpleCoreService,i once I have it?
15:14:49 <mayanktg> clokep: yes I did that
15:15:57 <flo-retina> clokep: first verify that #include <nsIMemoryReporter.h> is indeed included in your purpleCoreService.h
15:16:20 <flo-retina> clokep: then, show me the code in pCS.i around the MOZ_COLLECT_REPORT
15:17:03 <clokep> #line 1 "c:\\Users\\clokep\\comm-central\\objdir-im\\mozilla\\dist\\include\\nsIMemoryReporter.h"
15:17:03 <clokep> /* DO NOT EDIT.  THIS FILE IS GENERATED FROM ../../../dist/idl\nsIMemoryReporter.idl */
15:17:08 <clokep> I assume that means it is nicluded...
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15:18:17 <clokep> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/603662
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15:28:57 <flo-retina> clokep: that's really strange :-S
15:29:19 <flo-retina> is there a way to show the whole file? (I think Mook had a pastebin that accepted infinite lenght)
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15:39:28 <clokep> Hmmm...
15:40:04 <clokep> flo-retina: I emailed it.
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16:00:09 <flo-retina> clokep: I looked at the file, but I don't see any reasonable explanation :-/
16:00:35 <flo-retina> the only vague idea I have at this point is "could be a compiler bug, I would try moving around the #include" but that's not a satisfying explanation :(
16:01:01 <clokep> No, that's not. :(
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16:14:38 <flo-retina> if you add the include directly in the .cpp file, does it help?
16:14:44 <Unitraxx> Hi I'm trying to run instantbird on 64 bit ubuntu 13.10
16:14:53 <Unitraxx> I'm probably in need of some 32 bit libraries
16:14:58 <Unitraxx> is there a known list?
16:18:09 <flo-retina> clokep: ok, update the code in comm-central/mozilla/
16:18:27 <flo-retina> your .i file contains "class MemoryUniReporter : public nsIMemoryReporter" which is something that definitely doesn't exist any more in m-c.
16:19:22 <flo-retina> Unitraxx: I've done that yesterday: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/603744
16:19:53 <flo-retina> (note that I did it on an ubuntu that was likely 12.04)
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16:21:15 <mayanktg> flo-retina: the About page at instantbird.org redirects to 404 page http://www.instantbird.org/about.html ??
16:21:30 <flo-retina> mayanktg: that's unfortunate.
16:21:36 <mayanktg> and also the FAQ section http://www.instantbird.org/faq.html
16:21:37 <flo-retina> the about.html is on the .com domain
16:22:04 <mayanktg> ok :)
16:22:22 <mayanktg> I thought it was removed accidently
16:22:42 <clokep> aleth: I think you were thinking of http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/www.instantbird.com/rev/6be59980702c
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16:34:12 <Unitraxx> flo-retina: Saw your gsoc talk at FOSDEM btw :)
16:38:43 <clokep> flo-retina: Weird I thought it was up to date as of a couple weeks ago...maybe I got confused between systems. :(
16:40:04 <Unitraxx> flo-retina: I also needed to install libxt6:i386 on top of what you suggested. But it's working now :)
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17:21:23 <flo-retina> Unitraxx: :)
17:21:34 * clokep is starting a new builder now...
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18:22:59 <flo-retina> http://micropipes.com/blog/2014/02/21/ten-years-of-addons-mozilla-org/ nice :)
18:23:22 <flo-retina> according to this, AIO is based on the "early 2008" version of AMO
18:47:36 <flo-retina> clokep: what's the result of the new build? :)
18:48:19 <clokep> flo-retina: Building.
18:53:40 <clokep> flo-retina: Almost done though.
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19:11:13 <clokep_js> flo-retina: Hello from Mozilla 30. ;)
19:11:43 <mayanktg> :D
19:11:45 <clokep_js> My OSCAR account connected OK too so libpurple seems to work.
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19:20:15 <clokep> That was really dumb, sorry I didn't think of repulling Mozilla.
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19:48:23 <flo-retina> clokep: glad it works! :)
19:49:33 <clokep> flo-retina: So what now?
19:49:41 <flo-retina> food!
19:49:52 <flo-retina> :-D
19:51:37 <clokep> I just had that. :(
19:52:49 <flo-retina> clokep: so what remain is: check that everything that should be reviewed is reviewed; push all the stuff to a publicly accessible purple repo, tweak buildbot; hope things work
19:53:23 <clokep> flo-retina: Did we decide about a repo location?
19:53:31 <flo-retina> I'm not sure
19:53:46 <flo-retina> but I suspect a user repo on my account is the fastest way to move forward
19:54:02 <clokep> OK. I suppose we could always change it later too.
19:54:07 <clokep> There's one patch waiting review for you.
19:55:59 <flo-retina> looks like I'm always the one blocking everybody with reviews :(
20:05:24 <flo-retina> clokep: some of that attachment you just marked as obsolete may be useful if/when we look at packaging purple in an xpi
20:06:32 <clokep> OK.
20:06:50 <flo-retina> (for a follow up)
20:07:05 <clokep> Right.
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