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00:09:03 --> SCIF has joined #instantbird 00:15:15 <-- SCIF has quit (Quit: Good bye) 00:22:38 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 00:23:14 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:23:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 00:32:58 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:05:11 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 01:29:50 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 973385 from --- to FIXED. 01:29:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=973385 blo, --, ---, florian, NEW, Instantbird doesn't build on Linux 02:11:05 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 02:13:22 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 02:13:24 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 02:23:29 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 02:26:52 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 02:35:35 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 02:46:30 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:11:36 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 03:16:49 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 03:21:22 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 04:22:41 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:30:16 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 05:10:01 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 05:12:53 --> I_stephen has joined #instantbird 05:13:14 <I_stephen> Hi there 05:13:21 <I_stephen> How do I view my history of a conversation? 05:22:04 <Mook> Hmm, right click on the tab, I think? 05:26:31 <I_stephen> ok thanks 05:27:34 <I_stephen> how do I clear my history? 05:29:12 <Mook> Hrm. I have no idea. (I've... never attempted to.) 05:29:40 <Mook> I assume actually deleting the files would work, but that basically involves going into your profile and looking for it 05:32:01 <I_stephen> ah ok 05:32:08 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:32:12 <I_stephen> so it has to be done by hand 05:32:15 <Mook> That's, umm, C:\Users\<whatever>\AppData\Roaming\Instantbird\Profiles\<something>.default\logs somewhere, I think 05:32:16 <Mook> yeah 05:32:27 <Mook> ... unless somebody else has better ideas, anyway 05:32:47 <I_stephen> seems that Instantbird is still in it's early stages, but it's still a great program 05:32:48 * Mook is actually trying to build instantbird due to a lack of appropriate binaries... sigh. 05:40:59 <I_stephen> I love instantbird, it is so accessible. I'm using it in place of miranda. 05:41:55 <I_stephen> btw, mook, where are you from? 05:42:05 <I_stephen> are you the french guy? 05:42:12 <Mook> I_stephen: no, that's flo 05:42:17 <I_stephen> ok 05:42:20 <Mook> I just sort of hang around and don't do very much 05:42:31 <I_stephen> you're still a great help though 05:42:36 <I_stephen> where do you live? 05:42:41 <I_stephen> just curious 05:42:44 <Mook> North America. 05:42:46 <I_stephen> ok 05:43:01 <I_stephen> get a lot of earthquakes over there? 05:43:24 <I_stephen> hehe 05:43:25 <Mook> No, not really. Overdue, really. 05:43:32 <Mook> You're... Aussie? 05:43:41 <I_stephen> Yep 05:43:58 <I_stephen> how could you tell? 05:44:25 <Mook> I hovered over your name in the user list to get the /whois info? :) 05:44:43 <Mook> (and then went to on.net to figure out where they operate) 05:44:43 <I_stephen> I know, but there's no .au in the domain 05:44:49 <I_stephen> ah. 05:45:25 <I_stephen> Yep internode is fantastic, I've been with them for 7 years now 05:45:37 <I_stephen> and you know the best thing of all about them? 05:46:44 <I_stephen> when you ring them up, you can understand what the person on the othe rend is saying 05:46:49 <I_stephen> other end rather 05:47:28 <Mook> Yeah, I think my ISP mostly has techs on the other coast (of the continent); pretty decent, nice people too. 05:47:55 <I_stephen> you mean they're Philipino? 05:48:17 <Mook> Err, no, I mean, they're in east coast North America (I'm over on the west end) 05:48:21 <I_stephen> ah ok. heheh 05:48:42 <I_stephen> your isps call centre is a rare breed 05:49:08 <Mook> also, I think I've had more power outages than my internet connection going down :D 05:49:15 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 05:50:00 <I_stephen> all, or should I say 99.999999% of our big isps over here use offshore call centres 05:50:40 <Mook> Well... I'm not on a big ISP; that's one of the reasons. 05:51:55 <I_stephen> one particular ISP in australia, "Dodo", keeps cold calling me with their fake aussie accents asking me about my current package with my existing one. 05:52:05 <I_stephen> trying to switch me over 05:53:40 <I_stephen> oh, and another thing. Calling your ISP after an extinct bird is not a good look. especially with all the down time they've been having lately 05:54:13 <Mook> Hmm, I don't think I've really had any of that. But then, I have no land line and just a cell... so that would be sort of bad. 05:54:35 <I_stephen> so you're typing this on your cell right now? 05:54:48 <Mook> no, on my computer. which doesn't have a phone number. 05:54:56 <I_stephen> oh. 05:55:01 <Mook> oh, sorry, that was in reference to the cold calls 05:55:03 <I_stephen> so you're using ADSL 05:55:07 <Mook> yeah 05:55:45 <Mook> I mean, I probably _can_ tether to my cell if I really wanted to, but that's kinda silly (and would be kind of abusive; I don't think their network is designed to handle that sort of traffic) 05:55:56 <I_stephen> there's also this scam going round, where some indians ring you up and tell you there's something wrong with your computer and try to get you to let them into your computer 05:56:22 <I_stephen> so one day I decided to have a bit of fun 05:57:00 <I_stephen> next time I got a call from the scammer, it was an indian lady. and... very casually, and trying to keep a straight face, I asked, um... Hi... Is this my rhandi calling? 06:00:51 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 06:07:23 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 06:10:05 <I_stephen> anyways, I have to go now. 06:10:07 <I_stephen> take care 06:10:10 <I_stephen> chat soon 06:10:20 <I_stephen> can't wait for the nightlies to get back online 06:11:23 <-- I_stephen has quit (Quit: ) 06:18:52 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 07:27:10 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:35:43 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:45:49 <instant-buildbot> build #1268 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1268 08:05:53 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:06:15 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 09:20:47 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 09:25:38 <instant-buildbot> build #2012 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2012 09:30:33 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 09:35:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 09:44:59 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 09:50:53 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 10:06:47 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 11:25:15 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:27:29 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 11:28:30 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 11:28:30 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Client exited) 11:36:59 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:22:41 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:46:19 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:48:35 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:49:09 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:51:35 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:53:24 <clokep_work> Good morning. 12:54:32 <nhnt11> Morning! 12:55:14 <clokep_work> Seems like a lot of people have actually noticed we don't have nightlies. ;) 12:58:26 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:07:33 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I have noticed! 13:07:37 <flo-retina> clokep_work: and it annoys me :( 13:09:17 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Well I think we're close. :) I applied your dynamic prpl patch and it compiled on Windows btw. 13:09:27 <flo-retina> cool :) 13:10:04 <flo-retina> we still need to get the configure stuff fixed 13:15:17 <clokep_work> Yeah. :-\ 13:15:56 <flo-retina> which mostly means someone needs to poke at it 13:16:05 <flo-retina> last time I tried I wasn't very successful 13:16:10 <flo-retina> but I was also very tired 13:16:23 <flo-retina> (that was between 10pm and 1am in the hotel during the Fx work week in Paris IIRC) 13:16:43 * flo-retina is still very tired, recovering from a different work week :-S 13:17:38 * nhnt11 is planning to hack at some code for the next 45 minutes 13:17:48 <flo-retina> cool 13:17:53 <nhnt11> flo-retina, clokep_work: Do you guys have anything you'd like me to work on? Otherwise I'll likely continue that debug log in a tab WIP.. 13:17:55 * flo-retina directs nhnt11 to some configure code :-P 13:18:00 <nhnt11> Haha 13:18:11 <flo-retina> nhnt11: that a cool stuff to hack on :) 13:19:18 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Nothing in particular that I'd like. 13:19:27 <clokep_work> I'd like if we could eventually kill the Join Chat dialogue though. ;) 13:19:31 <flo-retina> (I meant the debug log UI; not the autoconf crap) 13:19:42 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes, last time I looked at it I didn't get very far either. :( 13:20:53 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it's very easy; the problem I had is it failed at the first or second line that I touched, without any error message :( 13:22:10 <nhnt11> flo-retina: How do I configure a custom objdir path? 13:22:24 <nhnt11> (Do I specify it in the mozconfig?) 13:22:51 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Yes. 13:23:06 <nhnt11> Is it something like mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../blabla? 13:23:28 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Are you on Mac? 13:23:31 <clokep_work> It has to be absolute. 13:23:33 <nhnt11> Oh, absolute paths only right? 13:23:36 <clokep_work> (If you're using c-c.) 13:23:36 <nhnt11> Yes 13:23:50 <nhnt11> alright thanks 13:24:04 <clokep_work> nhnt11: |mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/Users/pcloke/mozilla/comm-central/objdir-im| 13:24:11 <clokep_work> That's mine. 13:24:14 <nhnt11> Understood 13:25:30 <nhnt11> Will a "-dbg" suffix automatically be appended for debug builds or will it use the same one? 13:25:37 <flo-retina> same one 13:26:07 <nhnt11> Hmm. Any way to make it use a different one? 13:26:44 <nhnt11> (Without changing the mozconifg every time, though I could do that with an alias or something) 13:28:20 <flo-retina> I think you are already changing the mozconfig to set it to a debug build ;) 13:28:45 <flo-retina> nhnt11: we used to do it with a variable in our default mozconfig: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/mozconfig#8 13:29:16 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Ah. makes sense now. I had an alias which set the DEBUG variable in my bash profile and was wondering what that was about 13:29:31 <nhnt11> Thanks. That works well. 13:30:07 <clokep_work> flo-retina: :( That's unfortunate, I didn't realize you had looked at this at all. 13:31:01 <flo-retina> the configure stuff? 13:33:46 <nhnt11> Is there any reason I would want to keep the old Instantbird repo? 13:33:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes. 13:34:46 <flo-retina> maybe I just made a really silly mistake at the time 13:34:55 <flo-retina> nhnt11: if you are feeling nostalgic? 13:35:14 <flo-retina> nhnt11: if you need to test stuff with libpurple before we manage to get our act together on the c-c one? 13:35:52 <nhnt11> I guess that's a good enough reason 13:47:44 * nhnt11 wonders how flo-retina gets 9 minute builds 13:48:13 <clokep_work> Magic. ;) 13:48:26 <flo-retina> nhnt11: debug builds are faster than optimized these days 13:48:49 <nhnt11> That much faster? 13:48:57 <nhnt11> I've never seen a build complete in less than 20 minutes :( 13:49:21 * nhnt11 wonders if having the source on a disk image affects things 13:50:40 <clokep_work> Probably. 13:50:41 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 13:51:10 * nhnt11 should time a ramdisk build 13:51:38 <flo-retina> a disk image? O_o 13:52:29 <nhnt11> Er, yeah. It was a habbit from when I was doing Android Open Source Project stuff. 13:52:40 <nhnt11> They recommended keeping the source on a case sensitive disk image 13:53:08 <flo-retina> I just started a clobber build now to see what the time actually is now 13:53:49 <flo-retina> hmm, the mozconfig I used is an opt build, and with libpurple 13:53:56 <flo-retina> I would expect that to take 12 minutes 13:54:29 <nhnt11> Interesting. I'm going to move my source out of the disk image and see if it cuts the time in half 13:54:31 <flo-retina> nhnt11: well, don't do that. Put the source directly on your nice&fast ssd :) 13:58:01 * nhnt11 just realized his ongoing build will be useless if he plans to move everything out of the DMG 14:14:43 <-- deOmega has quit (Ping timeout) 14:18:39 <flo-retina> nhnt11: my build took 13:31.12 14:19:46 <flo-retina> nhnt11: it reached the purple/ folder after 12:43.13 14:21:01 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:36:56 <flo-retina> nhnt11: an opt c-c build without purple takes 10:19.87 14:37:35 <flo-retina> the 9minutes I remember must have been a firefox build 14:41:06 <-- Armada has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:50:46 <flo-retina> I'm actually doing a Firefox build now (but opt) 15:04:45 <flo-retina> nhnt11: 14:09.78 15:05:08 <flo-retina> I wonder if "9minutes" wasn't actually Instantbird on my new linux desktop machine :) 15:23:59 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:23:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:27:14 * clokep_work really doesn't understand why everyone writes InstantBird. :( 15:29:54 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 15:30:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:30:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:31:20 <aleth> ClokepWork: too many BrandedProducts using that as their naming gimmick a couple years ago?;) 15:35:03 <mayanktg> aleth: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleAccount.cpp#966 what's incorrect in the comment? :-o 15:35:33 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 15:36:06 <mayanktg> I localized the user-visible strings :) 15:36:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:36:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:36:32 <clokep_work> aleth: I think it's more of an attentiont to detail thing. I really hate when people use the wrong spelling of people's names, e.g. Eric vs. Erik vs. Erich. 15:37:15 <mayanktg> Also please tell me about prpl. Everyone is discussing about it and I feel left out of conversation :( 15:38:08 <clokep_work> mayanktg: prpl == "protocol plugin", i.e. the separate implementations for each protocol used in Instantbird, e.g. IRC, XMPP, etc. 15:38:39 <mayanktg> clokep_work: Mark's reaction over FaceBook. :D 15:38:43 --> aleth1 has joined #instantbird 15:38:44 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 15:39:29 <mayanktg> clokep_work: Okay!! I will have to study that. Thanks :) 15:39:29 <flo-retina> clokep_work, aleth: more seriously, is anybody replying to that guy, or should I? 15:39:40 <flo-retina> aleth1: ^^ 15:40:11 * flo-retina wonders if tab complete should have completed aleth1 instead of aleth 'automatically' 15:40:39 * aleth1 is now known as aleth 15:40:56 <flo-retina> also, completion suggestions that stay displayed in the conversation after we are done sending the message is something we should get rid of 15:41:01 <flo-retina> what about a panel instead? 15:41:06 * aleth wonders if the nick should have switched back 'automatically' 15:41:19 <clokep_work> mayanktg: I don't know what that means. :-\ 15:41:29 <flo-retina> aleth: that's another approach to the problem I guess :) 15:41:52 <aleth> Definitely agreed about the panel (or dropdown or whatever), but I want to add tests before adding anything. 15:41:53 <clokep_work> flo-retina: You mean a panel where you're typing? That's what I've always wanted. :-D 15:42:13 <aleth> Hard to do though I have some ideas about where to start digging. 15:42:29 <flo-retina> mayanktg: line 968 "Get the icon file URL from purpleCoreService." is obsolete 15:42:38 <flo-retina> should say "Get the icon file URL from the current user status." 15:42:58 <flo-retina> or "Get the icon file URL from the current user status info." 15:43:55 <aleth> clokep_work: 'hard to do' referring to the panel dropdown idea ;) 15:44:17 <flo-retina> mayanktg: also, I don't see any code touching preferences in that method, so line 983 seems wrong too. (you can likely just remove it) 15:44:22 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 15:45:17 <aleth> mayanktg: More generally, the idea was for you to look at the various places in the code that will be called when "null" is the argument for setUserIcon and make sure /you/ understand why they won't fail. 15:45:33 <mayanktg> flo-retina: ok 15:45:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I mean having half my conversation area covered by http://i5.minus.com/ib2dQLrkFUQscc.png sucks 15:45:57 <aleth> mayanktg: Likely the comment also wants to mention (after you have checked) that the icon will be removed if ... 15:46:17 <aleth> flo-retina: It's a total eyesore and also not very obvious as to what it means to the newbie 15:46:31 <aleth> We should keep UI stuff outside the conversation imho 15:46:33 <flo-retina> aleth: it's obvious at the time while pressing tab. 15:46:40 <flo-retina> It's non-obvious when you return to it 15:46:46 <aleth> Yes 15:47:47 <flo-retina> so is anybody replying to that remote-XUL email? 15:48:37 <aleth> The most suitable reply would be "come to #instantbird"... 15:51:07 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 15:51:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:51:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:53:46 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm sure you'll figure out a way. ;) 15:54:16 <flo-retina> aleth: I was thinking of a longer answer 15:54:33 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I am not. I think his idea is something we've discussed a bunch of times, but people have done that w/ libpurple already. 15:54:34 <flo-retina> aleth: composed of "no, but here are 2 other possible options you may be interested in" 15:54:41 <clokep_work> (I also only read the first paragraph of his email. :)) 15:56:06 <aleth> clokep_work: If he is interested in writing a bouncer-like version of Instantbird, or an Instantbird addon for FX, we could give him pointers 15:59:28 <aleth> Does/did something called "RemoteXUL" actually exist? 15:59:39 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes. 15:59:50 <clokep_work> It was XUL served via the web. 15:59:53 * mconley is now known as mconley|interview 15:59:54 <clokep_work> I.e. using XUL to make webpages. 16:00:13 <clokep_work> aleth: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Remote_XUL 16:00:57 <aleth> Thanks. I was wondering how that could possibly work with regard to privileges etc... 16:01:30 <flo-retina> aleth: privileges aren't relevant for the markup language you use. 16:01:36 <flo-retina> aleth: you just don't have access to Components.* 16:02:53 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: getting the <censored> out!) 16:05:01 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 16:06:18 <aleth> flo-retina: Right. But you'd need Components to run anything like IB that way... 16:06:37 <flo-retina> aleth: no, you would just XHR to the server 16:06:45 <flo-retina> or websocket, or whatever 16:07:31 <aleth> Oh, I see. 16:09:04 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:15:36 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: getting the <censored> out!) 16:17:34 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 16:18:53 <flo-retina> bah https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778683#c5 :( 16:18:57 <instantbot> Bug 778683 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, Clean up `Output()` function in nsMailApp.cpp on Windows 16:23:24 <clokep_work> Wasn't that a straight port? :( 16:23:32 <flo-retina> it is! 16:24:07 <aleth> So you are effectively supposed to improve it in m-c too? 16:24:21 <flo-retina> except his points aren't valid for the usage made in m-c 16:24:36 <aleth> Then it's bad to fork it I would have thought 16:24:48 <flo-retina> that's also my point of view 16:29:23 <flo-retina> replied 16:41:47 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 974438 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 16:41:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=974438 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, JS-XMPP fails to set the resource correctly for XMPP accounts created with libpurple 16:48:00 <clokep_work> :( That's unfortunate. 16:52:36 <flo-retina> aleth: I think that bug needs more details 16:53:07 <aleth> It does, but I filed it purely as a placeholder so it doesn't get forgotten. 16:54:28 * mconley|interview is now known as mconley 17:14:28 <nhnt11> flo-retina: You've got a new linux desktop? Specs? :D 17:14:50 <aleth> nhnt11: Debug logs in a tab sound great :) 17:15:15 <nhnt11> Cool 17:16:19 <aleth> Especially if you enable the findbar ;) 17:16:37 <nhnt11> Shouldn't be a problem if it's in a browser (which it is) ;) 17:16:41 <aleth> If you wanted to get elaborate, you could add some CSS to make them more readable 17:16:47 <nhnt11> Yeah that's the plan 17:16:50 <nhnt11> color coding et al 17:16:52 <aleth> Cool. 17:17:05 <nhnt11> First I have to get this to build -_-' 17:17:12 <aleth> What's your build problem? 17:17:29 <nhnt11> aleth: I moved my c-c directory so there are some path issues :/ 17:21:24 <nhnt11> Hmm, a convfigure error 17:23:00 <nhnt11> Any ideas? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/599549 17:25:12 <nhnt11> Wait, it seems to think my comm-central folder is a C compiler? Wtf? 17:25:24 <nhnt11> (Line 83-84) 17:26:52 <aleth> No idea how you got it into that state... 17:26:56 <nhnt11> Was I not supposed to directly move my comm-central folder? 17:27:05 * nhnt11 didn't think that would affect anything 17:27:12 <clokep_work> You can do that, I don't know if objdirs like being moved. 17:27:16 <aleth> Try clobbering and check for absolute paths 17:27:21 <nhnt11> I already clobbered 17:27:43 <nhnt11> this was after $./mozilla/mach clobber && ./mozilla/mach build 17:30:08 <aleth> But is the old objdir still around? 17:30:11 <nhnt11> Nope 17:30:22 <nhnt11> I didn't move any objdirs 17:30:45 <nhnt11> (rm -rf'd them) 17:31:26 <aleth> Try mach configure, you never know, it helped me the other day ;) 17:31:51 <nhnt11> Doesn't mach build start with configure after a clobber? 17:31:58 <nhnt11> anyway, same outpu 17:31:58 <nhnt11> output* 17:33:46 <nhnt11> Oh lord 17:33:49 <nhnt11> I figured it out 17:34:04 <nhnt11> I added an environment variable CC that points to my c-c directory 17:34:10 <aleth> :D 17:34:29 <nhnt11> -_-' 17:36:45 <nhnt11> All good now :) 17:36:57 <aleth> At least the fix was easy :) 17:37:13 <nhnt11> I'm glad I found it though 17:37:32 <aleth> Yeah, it did look strange. 17:37:32 <nhnt11> Rather, glad I didn't waste time trying fixes that wouldn't have worked 17:38:35 * nhnt11 is timing his build 17:38:56 <aleth> Mach times it for you automatically. 17:39:08 * nhnt11 didn't know that 17:39:23 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:39:38 <nhnt11> I'll probably time it on a ramdisk after this just for fun :D 17:42:28 <nhnt11> Oh wait, mach puts a timestamp on every line of the output 17:42:30 <nhnt11> Duh 17:42:51 * nhnt11 thought those were absolute timestamps and ignored them 17:45:39 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:47:20 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 17:49:33 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 17:50:17 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 17:53:22 <nhnt11> 14m28s. Quite an improvement :D 17:53:36 <aleth> :) 18:01:21 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 18:04:40 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 18:08:04 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 18:11:00 <nhnt11> make tier_app doesn't work anymore? 18:11:11 <nhnt11> (or does it have a new equivalent?) 18:12:00 <flo-retina> if you are changing only things inside im/, make -C objdir/im would be faster 18:12:08 <nhnt11> okay 18:13:48 <flo-retina> "Your message to support-instantbird awaits moderator approval" :( 18:14:05 <flo-retina> "The reason it is being held: Message has implicit destination" 18:14:18 <nhnt11> hmm, $make package gives me errors :/ 18:14:19 <flo-retina> is there any way to get rid of that silly behavior? 18:14:24 <flo-retina> nhnt11: pastebin? 18:14:35 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I haven't tried make package recently, so it's possibly broke 18:14:36 <flo-retina> n 18:15:31 <nhnt11> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/599590 18:17:07 <flo-retina> http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/fbec5015c536 can we teach Fallen to do these patches also for im/? ;) 18:17:41 <flo-retina> http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/1e1da3a4dac3 oooh <3 18:17:59 <flo-retina> http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/7586a9a93b6a needs porting 18:27:49 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 18:36:15 <flo-retina> nhnt11: can you take care of fixing this? 18:37:08 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 18:38:22 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Sure 18:41:50 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 18:54:44 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:59:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:16:35 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 19:18:05 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 19:18:52 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:23:12 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Please do not privately IM me unless there's somethign we need to discuss in private. 19:23:28 <clokep_work> You can qpop and then qfold the changes into your original patch. 19:23:42 <clokep_work> So qpop/qpush/qgoto the original patch. 19:23:51 <clokep_work> And then |hg qfold <other patch>| 19:25:09 <-- spiffytech has quit (Ping timeout) 19:25:18 <mayanktg> clokep_work: ok 19:28:37 --> spiffytech has joined #instantbird 19:37:43 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:38:33 --> mayanktg has joined #instantbird 19:43:13 <mayanktg> clokep_work: Thanks :) 19:43:43 <mayanktg> aleth, clokep_work: sorry, I'll take care in future. 19:43:47 <clokep_work> mayanktg: You're welcome. 19:43:57 <clokep_work> mayanktg: There's no reason to apologize, just stay calm and ask us. 19:54:02 <clokep_work> mayanktg: Did you mean to request review? 19:54:50 <mayanktg> clokep_work: yes, I changed the code aleth mentioned 19:55:00 <clokep_work> You didn't request review though. :) 19:55:29 <mayanktg> Ahhh...I'm half asleep :-/ Not my day today 19:55:49 <clokep_work> I did it for you. ;) You should usually mark the old patch as obsolete too. 19:56:25 <mayanktg> yes, I know that. last time I did added a review request. 19:56:54 <mayanktg> *add 19:58:15 <mayanktg> clokep_work: Thanks again!! 19:59:06 <clokep_work> mayanktg: No problem. :) Overall it looks pretty good, but I didn't do a full review. :) 20:01:27 <mayanktg> clokep_work: fingers crossed 20:03:48 <clokep_work> :) 20:04:00 <clokep_work> mayanktg: What was the other bug you looked at? 20:04:29 <mayanktg> clokep_work: I'm searching for a new one now 20:06:30 <mayanktg> I'm still working with the hg.instandbird.org build... Shall i switch to windows to use c-c? 20:06:39 <clokep_work> OK. :) Let me know if you have questions. 20:06:55 <clokep_work> Umm...c-c should build now as long as you don't need to touch purple/. 20:07:47 <mayanktg> Really! thats great :) I will try to build again then 20:10:55 <clokep_work> Yup yup. 20:16:16 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:21:23 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:23:20 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:57:55 <nhnt11> flo-retina, clokep_work: I'm filing a bug to fix make package. What product should I file it under? 20:58:24 <nhnt11> Instantbird? Or is there something for the c-c build system? 21:00:52 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Does make package not work? 21:01:54 <clokep_work> nhnt11: It would be filed under Instantbird, we might have a build system component, I forget. 21:02:06 <nhnt11> clokep_work: Nope. flo-retina found https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/7586a9a93b6a and https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/fbec5015c536 which need to be ported 21:02:20 <-- qlum has quit (Ping timeout) 21:02:26 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Oh OK, I thought you were referring to something else. 21:02:29 <nhnt11> clokep_work: Okay. I don't see a build system component, no. 21:02:35 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: So easy...but yet complicated.) 21:02:50 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Instantbird::Other. 21:02:54 <nhnt11> cool 21:04:54 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 974610 filed by nhnt11@gmail.com. 21:04:55 <nhnt11> BMO has a "Paste text as attachment". Nifty :D 21:09:54 <flo-retina> using BMO instead of BIO is a great improvement ;) 21:11:12 <nhnt11> flo-retina: So I've suffixed "r=flo" and used your florian@queze.net email address. 21:11:26 <nhnt11> If you need that to be Florian or a different email address, let me know 21:11:27 <flo-retina> I think I usually use r=florian on BMO 21:11:36 <flo-retina> the email address is correct :) 21:12:03 <flo-retina> I should get my IRC nick vs reviewer id story simplified ;) 21:12:12 <nhnt11> Is flo vs florian excusable or should I upload a new patch? 21:12:13 <flo-retina> if someone could get this account renaming thing working ;) 21:12:54 <flo-retina> nhnt11: it's excusable, but if you are going to mark the patch as checkin-needed, you likely want a better commit message that at least includes the bug number 21:13:09 <nhnt11> Didn't i add the bug number? :( 21:13:11 <nhnt11> Sorry 21:13:27 <flo-retina> no worries 21:13:36 * flo-retina isn't completely sure what a good commit message is 21:13:38 <flo-retina> in this case 21:13:53 <nhnt11> Yeah, I couldn't decide either so I just used the problem I was trying to solve :P 21:14:25 <flo-retina> "Bug NNNNNN - Stop packaging TelemetryPing.js and dom_camera.xpt, r=florian." ? 21:14:43 <nhnt11> Okay 21:15:01 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 21:15:04 <nhnt11> Should I rename the bug as well? 21:15:44 <flo-retina> hmm, optional :) 21:16:11 <flo-retina> I would name it "make package doesn't work - Missing files TelemetryPing.js and dom_camera.xpt" 21:16:16 <flo-retina> (which could also be a good commit message) 21:16:30 <nhnt11> Cool 21:17:50 <nhnt11> Oh, you r+'d it already 21:18:24 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Just carry it forward. 21:18:41 <nhnt11> Yeah okay 21:19:42 <nhnt11> Wait what? 21:20:27 <clokep_work> nhnt11: If you're uploading a new patch, just mark it as r+ and say "I'm carrying the review forward as I've only changed the commit message" or something. 21:20:51 <nhnt11> Oh okay. I thought you were referring to some magical way to keep Florian's r+ :P 21:20:58 <clokep_work> No. 21:21:00 <flo-retina> or just "Updated commit message." ;) 21:21:29 <clokep_work> nhnt11: flo-retina and I will vouch for you if you want: https://www.mozilla.org/hacking/commit-access-policy/ 21:21:54 <nhnt11> :) 21:22:04 <nhnt11> I don't think I really need commit access of any form right now though... 21:22:16 <nhnt11> So I'll leave it up to you at this point 21:22:29 <clokep_work> It's not up to us, it's up to you. :P 21:23:48 <nhnt11> I meant, do you think it would be useful to me? 21:26:01 <nhnt11> clokep_work: What level access would I get? 21:26:06 <flo-retina> checking the patch yourself would take you the same amount of time as uploading a new patch with updated commit message. 21:26:17 <flo-retina> but the difference is: the patch lands immediately ;) 21:26:53 <flo-retina> if you rely on checkin-needed (which works quite well these days, admitedly) the time between when your patch is ready and when it lands is unpredictable 21:27:08 <clokep_work> nhnt11: 3 21:27:18 <clokep_work> IF you have both of us vouching for you. 21:27:21 <flo-retina> nhnt11: you would get enough to checkin to comm-central and mozilla-central. (and of course the try server) 21:27:50 <nhnt11> Okay. I'd be honored :) 21:28:01 * nhnt11 was maybe a tad dramatic there 21:29:48 <mayanktg> nhnt11: Congrats ;) 21:31:28 <flo-retina> nhnt11: you still want to add checkin-needed on that bug, getting commit access involves signing a paper form, so it takes at least a day ;) 21:31:44 <nhnt11> I was just doing that 21:31:49 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Thanks. Congrats on your first bug 21:33:30 <mayanktg> nhnt11: :) 21:35:33 <flo-retina> nhnt11: it's a keyword on BMO, not in the whiteboard 21:35:46 <flo-retina> (although I wouldn't be fully surprised if the sheriffs found it in the whiteboard anyway) 21:35:58 * nhnt11 will need to learn these BMOisms 21:36:43 <flo-retina> another thing you'll learn is that if something is marked checkin-needed, it will be checked in *soon*, so don't expect me to have a look before it lands any more :) 21:37:13 <clokep_work> They'll find it... 21:38:11 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Haha, I'll keep that in mind. 21:40:21 <nhnt11> The committer's agreement form has an awfully small space for Postal Address 21:41:20 <-- unghost has quit (Ping timeout) 21:43:59 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 21:46:35 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:58:03 <-- qlum has quit (Ping timeout) 22:00:05 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 22:07:38 --> I_stephen has joined #instantbird 22:07:47 <I_stephen> Hey there 22:08:04 <I_stephen> does instantbird work with msn messenger service? 22:08:52 <I_stephen> I can't seem to log in 22:09:10 <flo-retina> I_stephen: usually it does. There may be server issues today. 22:09:18 <flo-retina> Would anybody be interested in creating a simple add-on? 22:09:44 <flo-retina> the idea is to have a trivially simple way to stop the annoyance when someone keeps sending you private messages 22:09:45 <I_stephen> so I dont need to change any options in the account manager or anything? 22:10:01 <flo-retina> the add-on would basically just add an /ignore command in private conversations 22:10:14 <flo-retina> The username and protocol id (or account id) would be stored in a preference 22:10:38 <flo-retina> and the the add-on would use the interruption manager to automatically put on hold similar conversations. 22:10:47 <flo-retina> http://hg.instantbird.org/addons/file/ca4ba6af0b8a/donotdisturb/bootstrap.js is an example of using the interruption manager 22:10:54 <I_stephen> oh btw, if I accidentally create an account where I've entered the wrong username, how do I change it? 22:11:07 <flo-retina> I_stephen: you remove the account, and create a new one 22:11:18 <I_stephen> oh 22:15:32 <I_stephen> thats a bit annoying 22:15:43 <I_stephen> will there be a fix for this issue in future? 22:19:24 <-- mayanktg has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:19:34 <flo-retina> if someone fixes it, yes 22:24:32 <I_stephen> if I log into msn messager and enter the wrong username or password, why doesn't instantbird show any errors? 22:25:30 <I_stephen> I logged into my msn/live account and all my contacts are missing, and I thought this must be because I entered the wrong username and password 22:27:22 <flo-retina> if the username or password is wrong, there'll be an error in the account manager 22:28:16 <I_stephen> oh ok 22:31:50 <I_stephen> whew. thought all my contacts had gone for good 22:33:12 <I_stephen> Yikes! If you try downloading the msn messenger program from micro$soft and signing into your old account, it asks you to update msn messenger, and then it forces you to download skype. 22:33:46 <I_stephen> so I loaded up skype and tried logging into my live account, and it offered to merge both accounts old and new. 22:34:17 <I_stephen> no way. not after what happened to a friend when he did it 22:34:33 <I_stephen> he lost all his skype and msn contacts and had to start over 22:39:44 <I_stephen> btw: sorry for all the questions. where is the ignore list? I used to be able to bring it up but the option seems to have disappeared and I can't find it 22:41:45 <flo-retina> Instantbird never had an ignore list 22:43:07 <I_stephen> Oh. 22:44:06 <I_stephen> Can't for the life of me remember what program I was using that had the option in it 22:58:57 <-- I_stephen has quit (Quit: ) 23:06:45 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:14:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:38:42 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:48:17 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout)