#instantbird log on 02 13 2014

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00:06:57 <flo-retina> oops, got distracted again
00:07:09 <flo-retina> it's difficult to pay attention to meetings and IRC at the same time
00:08:32 <flo-retina> Mic|web: around http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/app/Makefile.in#231, comment out lines 232 to 238
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00:26:39 <Mic|web> flo-retina: it seems to help! Thanks a lot!
00:26:49 <flo-retina> Mic|web: please file a bug ;)
00:26:52 <Mic|web> I guess I need to file a bug about that :)
00:26:54 <flo-retina> glad it helps :)
00:37:54 <Mic|web> bye!
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00:39:07 <flo-retina> Mic|web: that was short 37s night ;)
00:39:25 <I_stephen> how come there are no nightly builds appearing?
00:39:27 <Mic|web> haha, no I saw I_stephen joining and I've read his messages on the log...
00:40:00 <Mic|web> Hi I_stephen, I'd be happy to answer some questions if you make it here during the day/evening in UTC...
00:40:23 <I_stephen> it's 11:40AM in Australia right now
00:40:23 <Mic|web> It's 2am here and I need to go to bed. So sorry for now...
00:40:30 <I_stephen> oh bummer
00:40:34 <Mic|web> That complicates things...
00:40:36 <Mic|web> ;)
00:40:47 <I_stephen> where are the nightly builds?
00:41:13 <Mic|web> There aren't any at the moment.
00:41:18 <I_stephen> oh ok. why is that?
00:41:22 <flo-retina> I_stephen: we don't have nightly builds right now, because of a large reorganization of our code base that isn't fully finished
00:41:28 <I_stephen> ah ok fair enough
00:41:36 <Mic|web> Thanks flo! :)
00:41:40 <Mic|web> I need to go...
00:41:49 <I_stephen> cya mic
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00:42:38 <I_stephen> flo-retina, also, I received a message last night that such and such a person wanted to chat with me, and I could allow it or ignore it. but I couldn't activate the chat for some reason
00:43:36 <I_stephen> btw, just curious, where are you from flo-retina?
00:43:48 <flo-retina> I_stephen: so that message means that someone added you to their contact list, and what's to be able to chat with you in the future
00:44:01 <flo-retina> that doesn't necessarily mean that the person is around at the time you see the message
00:44:16 <flo-retina> I_stephen: I'm from France. But this week I'm in California.
00:44:26 <I_stephen> ok
00:44:29 <I_stephen> thanks for that
00:44:43 <I_stephen> so why isn't he or she slowing up in my contact list?
00:44:52 <I_stephen> showing up even
00:45:01 <flo-retina> maybe he or she is offline right now?
00:45:17 <flo-retina> also, on most protocols, granting permission to talk to you doesn't automatically add the person to your contact list.
00:45:27 <I_stephen> I clicked on show all contact, and he or she isn't there
00:45:40 <I_stephen> oh
00:45:44 <I_stephen> thanks for clearing that up
00:45:54 <I_stephen> I have a small request to be added to instant bird.
00:46:12 <I_stephen> can you enable the turning off of hardware accelleration?
00:46:19 <I_stephen> for the video display
00:46:30 <I_stephen> IE, the way you can turn it off in mozilla firefox
00:46:55 <I_stephen> It interferes with my screen reader
00:47:00 <I_stephen> when it's switched on
00:47:05 <flo-retina> it should be possible from about:config
00:47:14 <I_stephen> ok
00:47:19 <I_stephen> what's the option I should be looking for?
00:47:48 <flo-retina> type "/about config" in a conversation, then I guess layers.acceleration.disabled would do it
00:48:37 <I_stephen> ah. thank you
00:49:04 <I_stephen> do you think the option should be added to the main options screen?
00:50:07 <flo-retina> In Advanced->General maybe
00:50:30 <I_stephen> ok, I tried clicking on the person's name, and typing about:config in the conversation window, and nothing happened
00:51:32 <flo-retina> it's "/about config" that you need to type, not "about:config"
00:52:55 <I_stephen> ah. thanks for the clarification
00:53:01 <I_stephen> You've been a great help
00:53:59 <I_stephen> ah... that's better
00:54:34 <I_stephen> will instantbird ever support voice calls using the yahoo messenger protocol?
00:56:16 <I_stephen> btw: you'll have to take out the chat room function from instantbird since yahoo no longer has chat rooms
00:58:23 <flo-retina> I_stephen: I think yahoo still has conference rooms.
00:58:35 <I_stephen> how do I get into those?
00:58:37 <flo-retina> for yahoo specific questions, you likely want to talk to qheaden
00:58:53 <flo-retina> (my guess would be that currently you don't)
00:59:04 <I_stephen> oh ok
00:59:22 <flo-retina> the Yahoo protocol plugin has been completely reimplemented by qheaden last summer. And we are looking forward to replacing the old implementation with his new one "soon".
00:59:35 <I_stephen> ah thats good
00:59:43 <I_stephen> when do you think the nightly builds will come back?
00:59:45 <flo-retina> for voice calls... we will likely support voice calls, but I wouldn't bet on us doing it through the yahoo protocol.
01:01:12 <flo-retina> I_stephen: probably in more than a week, less than a month.
01:01:20 <I_stephen> thanks for that
01:03:23 <I_stephen> what's changed since instantbird 1.5 when the instantbird-1.6a1pre?
01:03:46 <flo-retina> nothing visible for users.
01:03:53 <I_stephen> ok
01:10:44 <I_stephen> thanks for your help guys
01:11:02 <I_stephen> must go now
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04:28:29 <SCIF> Hey guys
04:28:40 <SCIF> I have issue with jabber conference
04:28:54 <SCIF> It doubles posts of all participants
04:29:01 <SCIF> http://i.imgur.com/EljKexZ.png
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05:46:04 <mayanktg> ls
05:47:16 <flo-retina> mayanktg: hello
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06:09:02 <mayanktg> flo-retina: hi
06:09:21 <mayanktg> sorry mistakenly typed ls :P
06:14:08 <mayanktg> flo-retina: can you suggest some ways I can improve my js skills, specially when working for Mozilla? 
06:14:44 <flo-retina> the best way I know is to submit patches
06:14:55 <flo-retina> reviewers will let you know when there's something you can do better
06:15:56 <mayanktg> flo-retina: ok. I'm working on one :)
06:17:19 <mayanktg> Also regarding implementing WebRTC in IB. I'm studying for it
06:19:12 <flo-retina> cool
06:23:39 <mayanktg> flo-retina: what is your working hour here? I mean when most of the developers are available? 
06:24:02 <flo-retina> which timezone are you in?
06:24:29 <mayanktg> India IST +5:30
06:24:51 <mayanktg> same as nhnt11
06:25:48 <flo-retina> ok
06:26:07 <flo-retina> I would say you are likely to find someone between 10am and 2am French time.
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06:26:48 <flo-retina> (French time is utc +1 or 2)
06:27:04 <flo-retina> this week is an exception because I'm in California ;).
06:27:30 <mayanktg> ahaa!! great :)
06:28:49 <mayanktg> have fun ...in india it is then b/w 2
06:29:01 <mayanktg> 2:30 pm to 6:30 am :)
06:29:17 <mayanktg> i guess :-o
06:30:18 <flo-retina> nhnt11 often worked during the evenings I think
06:32:22 <mayanktg> ok...yes it would have been the most suitable time
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06:33:21 <instant-buildbot> build #1897 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1897
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07:42:41 <instant-buildbot> build #1261 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1261
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08:57:48 <nhnt11> flo-retina: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/yesterday/#m432 yes.
08:58:22 <nhnt11> mayanktg: I usually slept all day when nobody was home, went out in the evenings and worked all night. (dinner till breakfast)
08:59:07 <nhnt11> The primary reason for that was because I was more comfortable working at night. It also made the time zone differences easy to manage of course, but that wasn't my main reason personally.
08:59:20 <mayanktg> nhnt11: Hehe great :)
08:59:43 <mayanktg> Even I'm confortable working at night. In daytime have to attend the classes 
08:59:50 <nhnt11> During the summer?
09:00:10 <mayanktg> No
09:01:06 <mayanktg> Present condition. I guess even then would have to manage at least a month or so both college and work (if i qualify :P)
09:01:41 <mayanktg> 'cos we have summer break only from May-June 
09:01:53 <mayanktg> was your build successful? 
09:01:55 <nhnt11> mayanktg: I had to manage around a month and a half.
09:02:10 <nhnt11> The build was "successful" but like I said, empty dist folder
09:02:19 <mayanktg> yeah ...it would be same then.
09:02:23 <mayanktg> :-/
09:02:57 <nhnt11> Hmm, last summer was very busy. I started working as soon as my proposal was accepted during the community bonding period, and worked well into the next semester
09:03:57 <mayanktg> Then? How would IB run.. :-o I guess last time I tried with c-c I suffered the same thing. I thought it would be some problem with the package. Didn't see the log.
09:04:17 <nhnt11> Uh, what?
09:04:36 <nhnt11> I definitely can't run Ib.
09:05:05 <mayanktg> During the build from comm-central. First time I tried it didn't worked out :-/
09:05:16 <nhnt11> I got a message saying "We know it took a long time, but your build finally finished successfully!" or something and then an exception that the bundled app wasn't found in the dist dir
09:05:25 <nhnt11> So I'll fire another build then and hope for the best
09:05:54 <mayanktg> I'm doing the same :(
09:06:17 <mayanktg> I'll make it run today :X
09:06:44 <nhnt11> Hmm
09:07:35 <mayanktg> nhnt11: You would be participating this year also? One of my friend study at BITS Goa :)
09:07:48 <nhnt11> Here's my build log, if anyone wants to see: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/589658
09:07:48 <nhnt11> It's not a full build log though
09:08:03 <nhnt11> mayanktg: Yes I plan to participate. Need to discuss a few things with the team first though
09:08:08 * nhnt11 should really write that email
09:08:42 <mayanktg> nhnt11: thats great :) 
09:11:31 <nhnt11> Well I've got lunch to eat and a quiz to study for
09:11:37 <nhnt11> Bye
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10:07:20 <Mook> nhnt11: pretty sure the stuff missing in dist is normal
10:07:48 <Mook> nhnt11: look in, err, /Volumes/InstantbirdWorkspace/comm-central/mozilla/obj-x86_64-apple-darwin13.0.0/dist/Instantbird.app/Contents/MacOS/instantbird I think?
10:08:17 <nhnt11> Um, the dist folder is completely empty
10:08:20 <nhnt11> i.e. there's no Instantbird.app
10:08:32 <nhnt11> But I just realized what's happening
10:08:40 <nhnt11> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Thunderbird_build
10:08:57 <nhnt11> Apparently it's because of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863409
10:08:58 <Mook> yeah, there are two dist folders
10:08:59 <instantbot> Bug 863409 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, mach build a comm-central app (SM, TB) throws exception at the end
10:09:44 <nhnt11> Yup, all is good
10:09:45 <nhnt11> :)
10:10:35 <nhnt11> Um, the fonts on the new build are all messed up :/
10:10:43 <nhnt11> This was a building-with-10.9 issue iirc...
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10:10:54 <nhnt11> Looks like I'll need to rebuild with the 10.8 sdk.
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10:16:41 <Mic|web> My build ran for much longer today :)
10:17:16 <Mic|web> It still failed (http://pastebin.instantbird.com/589719) but it is a start...
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10:29:42 <Mic|web> That's the actual error when I run make in the objdir: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/589720
10:31:44 <Mic|web> I worked around that by removing the mintrayr from the list of directories in moz.build. The build went on and failed later with what looks like nhnt11's problem
10:31:56 <Mic|web> The dist/bin directory is empty.
10:32:32 <nhnt11> Mic|web: Look in objdir/mozilla/dist?
10:33:36 <Mic|web> nhnt11: is the error at the end the one you saw? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/589741
10:33:54 <nhnt11> Yup, same thing.
10:34:44 <nhnt11> Your ready to run binaries should be in objdir/mozilla/dist/bin :)
10:35:13 <nhnt11> (A workaround suggested in a comment on that bug is to symlink objdir/dist to objdir/mozilla/dist)
10:39:54 <Mic|web> "./instantbird: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" :(
10:44:48 <nhnt11> odd.. :(
10:46:24 <Mic|web> Thanks, I'll try to figure that out tonight :)
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12:25:07 <aleth> Mic: That libxul.so error sounds almost like you did a 32-bit build on a 64-bit machine?
12:26:14 <aleth> nhnt11: The messed up fonts are probably a regression from changes in m-c we need to fix.
12:27:10 <aleth> Of course you may be right about the sdk, in which case I'm not sure if there is anything we can do about it...
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12:31:43 <aleth> nhnt11: Looks like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=931040
12:31:48 <instantbot> Bug 931040 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [10.9] Default font is wrong on builds using the 10.9 SDK.
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12:38:22 <nhnt11> aleth: Yup, it's an SDK thing
12:38:47 <aleth> I wonder how hard it would be to fix
12:38:59 <nhnt11> Well building with the 10.8 sdk works for now :D
12:39:08 <aleth> ...
12:39:15 <nhnt11> sorry
12:39:40 <aleth> Yeah, I guess we could just wait until they upgrade the build slaves or something ;)
12:40:10 <aleth> Could be a while (I think they use 10.6 or 10.7)
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12:55:01 <clokep_work> https://mozillians.org/group/instantbird/ has a nice new look. ;)
12:56:00 <aleth> With links and all! :)
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13:02:09 <clokep_work> Yes. If someone thinks the description should be updated or something, let me know.
13:03:13 <deOmega> gm, just in case someone reports the same issue I had yesterday with AIM, please note that it was an account verification issue.  Dunnno if it is new or not but I have had the account for years.
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13:39:13 <clokep_work> deOmega: IT happens from time to time.
13:39:38 <deOmega> clokep_work: thank you.
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14:36:02 <instantbot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 969843 from --- to FIXED.
14:36:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=969843 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Localization of dates in the log viewer ignores system settings on OSX
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15:36:31 <nhnt11> I don't suppose there's an easy way to port my existing mq patches to my newly sync'd c-c repo?
15:38:33 <aleth> I suppose you could sed the changed paths? There aren't that many changes.
15:38:50 <aleth> There's nothing automatic, no.
15:42:13 <clokep_work> nhnt11: No, I haven't dealt w/ that yet in my mq.
15:42:46 <aleth> The ones I ported over so far, I just used the patch command.
15:43:49 <nhnt11> I just have one (a WIP for debug log in a tab)
15:44:18 <nhnt11> And it's just one file added and none modified so far so I guess I can do a copy paste and be done with it
15:44:20 <nhnt11> cool
15:46:22 <clokep_work> Just apply it, hg mv the file and hg qref?
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15:47:43 <nhnt11> Either way would do just fine I guess
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16:33:28 <clokep_work> Hello kramolnik.
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20:48:03 * clokep thinks Mook_as will be happy about Bug 966245...
20:48:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966245 nor, --, Thunderbird 30.0, aleth, RESO FIXED, Make session start rulers visible in Thunderbird chat logs
20:48:35 <Mook_as> \o/
20:49:03 <clokep> Oh wait... that might just be in logs not in live conversations... :-\
20:49:27 <Mook_as> to be honest, I'm actually more excited about ib going into c-c
20:49:55 <Mook_as> (because it should mean there'd be no more outdated chat code in tb)
20:50:17 <clokep> Now we just need to get builds back and actually fix things again. :P
20:50:24 <Mook_as> hehe
20:51:11 * clokep doesn't suppose you know anything about using the build system w/ extensions?
20:52:09 <Mook_as> I... used to
20:52:15 <Mook_as> and then the build system changed
20:52:29 <clokep> Bleh. :-\
20:52:43 * clokep hopes Florian gets less busy at some point. :(
20:52:43 <Mook_as> so, if you want to know things about what it was like five years ago, maybe? :p
20:52:56 <clokep> Not helpful! :P
20:56:45 <Mook_as> ugh, tbird's conversation list tooltip is getting kinda annoying
20:57:00 <Mook_as> because I'm using synergy, and the other screen is to the left... so it triggers all the time :|
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21:42:53 <flo-retina> clokep: hey :)
21:43:01 <flo-retina> clokep: so I'm flying home Friday evening
21:43:11 <flo-retina> I'll be traveling all day Saturday
21:43:21 <flo-retina> and I'll likely rest / stay away from work Monday
21:43:29 <flo-retina> so I should be able to look at our purple story
21:44:24 <clokep> flo-retina: Cool. I'm actually going skiing this weekend so I won't be around until Monday evening.
21:55:52 <flo-retina> clokep: ok. Would be great if you could ensure the status in the bug is accurate / I know where to take it over.
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22:05:54 <clokep> flo-retina: OK.
22:06:03 <clokep> I'll make sure none of my patches are newer.
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