#instantbird log on 01 22 2014

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00:30:18 <GeekShadow> yo
00:30:24 <GeekShadow> is this normal Instantbird Mac OS X doesn't have a "look for updates" item ?
00:30:53 <flo-retina> it's at the bottom of the tools menu
00:34:08 <GeekShadow> oh yep, flo-retina it shouldn't be in Instantbird menu instead ?
00:34:58 <GeekShadow> well I suppose since Fx/Tb handle it in about box now
00:35:08 <flo-retina> it should be in the about window if we follow the current practices of Tb/Fx
00:35:54 <GeekShadow> Nightingale update is still in Help menu because of older xulrunner/base
00:36:26 <GeekShadow> and since it's also in Help menu on Instantbird
00:42:29 <flo-retina> Tools menu
00:42:55 <clokep> What Gecko are you guys on now?
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01:04:24 <GeekShadow> clokep, still the old one 1.9.2
01:04:39 <clokep> :(
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01:57:04 <clokep> The links to the files stuff doesn't work in http://blog.instantbird.org/2009/04/instantbird-0-2-feature-preview-protocols-as-extensions-2/ anymore. :(
01:57:46 <EionRobb> I miss the old fb plugin ;(
02:03:05 <clokep> Mook_as: Where are Mozilla profiles stored on Mac?
02:04:23 <clokep> Actually never mind, this is in our faq.
02:04:25 <Mook_as> Umm. ~/Libraray/Application Data/?
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02:07:09 <clokep> Yeah. Thanks. :)
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02:34:53 <clokep> flo-retina: https://bitbucket.org/clokep/instantbird-purple has my newest stuff. I get an "infinite recursion" issue with these changes though. :-\
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02:48:54 <EionRobb> does https://bitbucket.org/clokep/instantbird-purple/src give a 500 for you?
02:49:13 <EionRobb> or is that the infinite recursion thing?
02:50:00 <clokep> EionRobb: Yes, it does.
02:50:13 <clokep> I stripped some changesets, I wonder if that's the issue... :-\
03:04:55 <GeekShadow> clokep, but the newer xulrunner is under work for us, it should work
03:05:18 <GeekShadow> not IB related but what's cron alternative on Mac OS X ?
03:06:11 <clokep> GeekShadow: It's been under work for a longgggggg longgggggg time though. :( I hope you guys are able to get it to work soon! :)
03:06:35 <GeekShadow> clokep, well there is only one person who is in charge of this
03:06:48 <GeekShadow> I don't have much C++/build system knowledge so :/
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05:02:22 <instant-buildbot> build #1729 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1729
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07:34:34 <instant-buildbot> build #1239 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1239
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09:47:23 <flo-retina> clokep: I guess I should be able to get these links fixed
09:47:45 <flo-retina> probably not now though, so if you want me to not forget, you may want to file a bug
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11:49:18 <clokep> So according to aceman the jsTest account might be broken right now, has anyone used this in a wihle?
11:49:40 <flo-retina> has he defined "broken"?
11:50:21 <flo-retina> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-gsoc-2014
11:51:09 <flo-retina> bah, I thought I had plenty of ideas, and have a hard time recalling a single one now :-S
11:51:58 <flo-retina> let's brainstorm random ideas for now
11:52:14 <flo-retina> we will sort later to decide if they are actually wanted / a good fit for GSoC
11:54:56 <clokep> flo-retina: Our really confusing conversation: http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23maildev&s=21+Jan+2014&e=22+Jan+2014#c123416 :-\
11:58:13 <flo-retina> clokep: ok. So jsTest is debug only, but I think you already know that
11:58:40 <flo-retina> I think we could make it also part of non-debug and use it for some automated tests
11:58:40 <clokep> flo-retina: That's why I asked if he had a debug build, which he said he did.
11:58:51 <clokep> And just not package it?
11:58:54 <flo-retina> well, his answers are slightly confusing ;)
11:58:56 * clokep has to go clean his car off. :-\
11:59:02 <clokep> I'm glad I'm not the only one. :-D
11:59:19 <flo-retina> I think tests are packaged in some way for the Tb builders
11:59:25 <flo-retina> so we would have to package it in some way
11:59:39 <flo-retina> for Ib we don't care for now as tests are run on the same slave as the build
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12:54:53 <clokep_work> I got SIPE compiled for Instantbird and made it an extension...
12:55:00 <clokep_work> But I forgot to compile in the proper type of authentication. :(
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13:37:46 <flo-retina> clokep_work: sounds like success anyway :)
13:41:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Kind of. :) It's getting there.
13:41:32 <clokep_work> It'd work on Windows cause that uses the Windows security crap.
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13:47:45 <aleth> Congrats on getting SIPE working anyway!
13:48:31 <flo-retina> aleth: any GSoC ideas?
13:48:57 <aleth> The obvious ones are on the pad already
13:49:19 <flo-retina> feel free to add the non obvious ones then :-P
13:49:26 <aleth> I'll add more if I come up with something ;)
14:06:24 <aleth> clokep_work: "it is known you can't run tests via mach" really? I tried last night to make that work :-S
14:09:38 <clokep_work> aleth: Use make.
14:10:47 <clokep_work> aleth: Only for c-c.
14:11:34 <clokep_work> aleth: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/MailNews_xpcshell-tests#Workaround_for_mach_problems
14:12:49 <aleth> Thanks. I thought there was something missing in IB's makefile.in or whatever
14:13:55 <clokep_work> Nope. You should have asked, sorry you wasted time. :(
14:14:11 <clokep_work> (I don't remember if I tried the above for IB btw, but it should work!)
14:14:16 * flo-retina is looking forward to all that stuff being in m-c
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14:28:04 <clokep_work> Me too! :)
14:28:19 <clokep_work> I made some more progress on building purple...
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15:04:33 <aleth> Looks like instantbot isn't watching the BMO components yet...
15:04:59 <aleth> Who has the email/login for that address? (Morian didn't seem to have it)
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15:11:52 <clokep_work> aleth: Did the wake notification thing is only Mac/Linux, right?
15:11:56 <clokep_work> Sorry, I mean Mac/Windows.
15:12:02 <aleth> Yes.
15:12:41 <aleth> It's probably the #1 annoyance I've encountered with IB on a laptop, so I thought I'd better fix it ;)
15:14:48 <flo-retina> aleth: I always type /off<tab><enter> before putting the laptop to sleep
15:15:11 <flo-retina> aleth: my top annoyance on a laptop is stuff being disconnected / in a strange state after switching wifi access point
15:15:34 <aleth> Hmm, I wonder if I could improve that too.
15:15:56 <aleth> I doubt necko gets notified of that though.
15:16:11 <flo-retina> it's possible the network goes down and then back up
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15:19:43 <clokep_work> Bah the pinging in that always confuses me w/ the two timers. ;)
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16:26:41 <deOmega> flo-retina: I like the 'do not disturb' addon.  But I have a dilemma and hopefully you can understand it...
16:27:00 <flo-retina> deOmega: hello :)
16:28:11 <deOmega> I like when i set my status to away,  it put conversations on hold
16:29:27 <deOmega> BUT... to me, when you sat yourself to away/busy (Clokep's blog post about multiple status :)  comes to mind).... people are less inclined to comment to  you
16:30:04 <deOmega> I really like or woud like people to feel free to keep typing away to me, but the message is just put on hold until I am ready to view
16:30:15 <deOmega> does that make sense?
16:31:48 <clokep_work> deOmega: It makes sense, but it's not what that add-on was designed to do. ;)
16:32:23 <deOmega> ok.  is it possible to do that when you indiidually put a conversation on hold?
16:32:48 <flo-retina> without the add-on, conversations on hold won't stay on hold if someone talks to you
16:32:54 <deOmega> I also like that feature but as soon as someone says something it pops back up
16:33:11 <deOmega> hmm
16:34:00 <flo-retina> deOmega: if people's message go automatically "on hold" then you aren't available. So setting the status to busy makes sense, doesn't it?
16:34:04 <deOmega> even with the addon, if put a convo on hold and the person types something more.. it opens their dialog window
16:34:14 <flo-retina> it shouldn't
16:34:22 * flo-retina hasn't used that add-on in a while
16:35:01 <deOmega> but i want them to keep typing even though they are on hold, without interrupting me until I check to see what they have said
16:37:15 <deOmega> You see...
16:37:48 <deOmega> some people are naturally long winded .. Like i probably am to some people :)... and I often truly want to hear what they have to say
16:38:30 <deOmega> but  so many times the window just keep on pinging .. on and on  .. and on and on.. serving as a pretty  big distraction... while you may be in the middle of a convo with another person too
16:38:32 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Any ideas http://pastebin.instantbird.com/549701?
16:39:27 <clokep_work> deOmega: I think this goes back to the bugs youv'e filed about not having IB jump up and steal your focus.
16:40:08 <deOmega> clokep_work: hmm,  not really.. I feel that is a separate thing and I have resolved that bug by always having a message window open
16:40:29 <deOmega> well not resolved but addressed
16:41:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you've got infinite recursion in expandlibs.py for some reason
16:42:15 <clokep_work> Thanks. :P
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17:48:53 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I get the same error for libglib. :-s
17:48:59 <flo-retina> :(
17:49:21 <clokep_work> (Both happened at the same time...)
17:49:22 <clokep_work> Bleh.
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18:32:18 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Can you read over when jcranmer just said in #maildev? I think it makes sense (I just need to change a couple things to be purple), but I'd like you to read it. :)
18:33:38 <flo-retina> makes sense!
18:34:08 <flo-retina> and good idea to have pinged me to go read it; I would have had to ask you why you were doing this otherwise ;)
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19:06:06 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Just finding lots of unknown symbols now. :-S
19:11:00 <clokep_work> Looks like reference to iconv and nss.
19:13:02 <clokep_work> Do we have flags or something for those somewhere? :-S
19:13:20 <flo-retina> pastebin ?
19:14:23 <flo-retina> clokep_work: we have http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/Makefile.in#43
19:14:32 <flo-retina> btw, I think Joshua told you the final library is purple
19:14:36 <flo-retina> it's actually purplexpcom ;)
19:16:32 <clokep_work> I wonder if that's the issue actually.
19:16:46 <flo-retina> quite possible
19:19:02 <clokep_work> Nope. :)
19:19:12 <flo-retina> :-|
19:20:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/549882
19:20:44 * flo-retina should think about going home at some point
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19:43:10 <clokep_work> I seem to have a bad habit of hitting soe key combination on Mac which quits.
19:43:23 * clokep_work suspects Cmd + q.
19:56:31 <clokep_work> The ideas on our GSoC page aren't insanely exciting. :-\
20:03:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: find better ideas then? :-P
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20:12:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I'm thinking!
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20:33:20 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think as a student I would be excited to work on using WebRTC ;)
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20:33:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I'm probably just old and crotchety. :)
20:34:20 <EionRobb> is using js-ctypes for libpurple a student project? :)
20:34:22 <flo-retina> clokep_work: tbh, it's hard to get me excited on anything these days :(
20:34:26 <clokep_work> That one and FileLinks over IM are ones I'd want...
20:34:34 <flo-retina> EionRobb: that's a great one!
20:34:36 <clokep_work> EionRobb: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-gsoc-2014
20:34:43 <clokep_work> (That's what we're looking at right now...)
20:35:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Me too. :(
20:35:14 <flo-retina> EionRobb: that could also be quite challenging
20:35:51 <clokep_work> Would that let us use system libpurple?
20:36:14 <EionRobb> flo-retina: maybe so, but if a good enough student said they wanted to do it, would you say no? :)
20:36:22 <flo-retina> clokep_work: that's a non-goal IMHO
20:36:37 <flo-retina> EionRobb: I would say no if the proposal didn't look realistic
20:37:08 <flo-retina> EionRobb: the proposal would have to be detailed enough to let us know that the student is aware of the complexity
20:37:30 <flo-retina> EionRobb: do you know such a student?
20:38:13 <EionRobb> flo-retina: I'm trying to get more CS students here interested in SoC.  its not a very widely known thing
20:38:34 <EionRobb> also tricky that its during the winter :)
20:39:42 <flo-retina> EionRobb: are you a teacher?
20:39:48 <clokep_work> EionRobb: You clearly mean GWoC then?
20:40:13 <EionRobb> flo-retina: no
20:40:20 <EionRobb> clokep_work: lol
20:41:04 <EionRobb> oh, don't know if you guys listen in much to what's going on on the libpurple side of the fence, but there's been talk about gplugin and what js engine it should connect to
20:42:15 <flo-retina> EionRobb: I still read the devel mailing list, but I don't have time to look at the IRC channel or XMPP MUC any more
20:42:16 <EionRobb> i.e. gplugin is capable of loading js plugins
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20:44:36 <clokep_work> What would that buy you?
20:47:08 <EionRobb> the idea being that plugins for libpurple can be written in anything and (as long as there's a loader for that language in gplugin) can be used in pidgin.  if they were using the spidermonkey engine then instantbird and pidgin could share plugins
20:47:29 <clokep_work> Interesting.
20:47:37 <EionRobb> yeah, just interesting at the moment :)
20:48:41 <EionRobb> you were talking a few days ago about whether xpcom, js-ctypes or napi was best for libpurple the other day.  did you reach a consensus? 
20:49:02 <flo-retina> EionRobb: so this is something that has always seemed strange to me. libpurple developers seem to care a lot about engines (spidermonkey vs whatever, I remember a long while ago gecko vs webkit for message themes, etc...). These things are all (mostly) interoperable, so it seems irrelevant to me.
20:49:45 <flo-retina> I probably wasn't involved in that discussion; I don't think npapi is good for anything :-D.
20:50:16 <EionRobb> flo-retina: probably because they're trying to get interoperability with adium message themes which are pretty much excluisvely webkit-oriented
20:50:30 <EionRobb> but yeah, much of a muchness
20:50:31 <flo-retina> EionRobb: we use them. They work quite well in gecko
20:51:16 <EionRobb> that's right, I forgot you guys do that :)
20:54:06 <flo-retina> clokep_work: looks like you were also hit by the BIO migration script failing to assign bugs to nobody :-/.
21:10:17 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes, I was. :(
21:10:29 <clokep_work> EionRobb: There's talk (not that it'll happen for a while) of killing npapi. ;)
21:10:35 <flo-retina> it's sad we didn't notice it on landfill
21:10:46 <flo-retina> I'm sure we could have fixed it in a few lines :(
21:11:01 <clokep_work> Not a big deal. :)
21:11:20 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yeah. AFAIK it's the only thing our script has messed up! :)
21:12:24 <clokep_work> The BZ dashboard is pretty nice on BMO.
21:14:35 <flo-retina> indeed
21:14:49 <flo-retina> there's where I noticed that I was the assignee for plenty of stuff I didn't care about ;)
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21:33:00 <deOmega> hi, i know how it should work.. but just making sure before I open a can of worms over here
21:33:22 <deOmega> If i am signed into two gmail accounts..
21:33:53 <deOmega> they will pretty much behave teh same in conversation as being logged into say an MSN chat account and a gmail account?
21:34:01 <deOmega> meaning  no overlapping?
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21:34:52 <deOmega> I am asking this regarding using IB of course
21:36:23 <clokep_work> deOmega: If the accounts are totally separate then they're totally separate.
21:36:29 <clokep_work> The protocol has nothing to do w/ the account.
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21:39:11 <deOmega> clokep_work: ok, thanks a lot for the confirmation. 
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22:02:55 <GeekShadow> yop
22:03:15 <GeekShadow> do you use buildbot to produce builds ?
22:03:48 <clokep_work> GeekShadow: Yes.
22:03:53 <clokep_work> buildbot.instantbird.org IIRC.
22:04:00 <clokep_work> It's not producin builds right now though...
22:05:12 <GeekShadow> clokep_work, this works across OS right ?
22:05:28 <clokep_work> GeekShadow: YOu can run it on different OSes, we don't cross compile.
22:06:10 <GeekShadow> clokep_work, last time I looked buildbot seemed complicated to setup...
22:06:53 <GeekShadow> clokep_work, who set this instance for IB ?
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22:07:16 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: what's your _real_ question? :)
22:07:35 <GeekShadow> :p
22:07:48 <GeekShadow> I just wondered how much time you spend on setting up buildbot
22:07:53 <GeekShadow> *spent
22:08:04 <flo-retina> weeks
22:08:09 <flo-retina> but that was back in 2008
22:08:16 <GeekShadow> oh. I expected so
22:08:35 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: we also setup crash reporting and automated updates at the same time
22:08:44 <GeekShadow> this is why I end writing my own script too when I saw the documentation ;)
22:08:59 <GeekShadow> but I guess the right way is using buildbot
22:09:09 <flo-retina> buildbot sucks. But I don't know any better alternative
22:23:14 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, well I made my own bash script that build nightlies on Windows/Linux/Mac
22:23:33 <GeekShadow> but it doesn't do automate tests etc.
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23:01:49 <clokep> flo-retina: Do you know why the changes to lines 98 and 101 in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8356673&action=diff?
23:03:55 <flo-retina> clokep: can you be more specific?
23:04:22 <flo-retina> the rules after the patch are cleaner (they depend on the files that are used to generate the png, so if that file changes the png will be rebuilt)
23:05:06 <clokep> Umm...OK. I clearly don't understand that syntax, but I can copy it!
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