#instantbird log on 01 09 2014

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00:01:19 <flo-retina> so http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6ae1107d9ab3 is where things get interesting ;)
00:01:51 <clokep_work> I don't even want to look at that...
00:14:52 <flo-retina> and http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a765888e56a9 is moving things the other way around
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00:31:01 <clokep_work> (o_O)
00:31:08 <clokep_work> We take things from over there....and move them over there.
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00:34:12 <flo-retina> another failed commit message: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77#c3
00:34:14 <instantbot> Bug 77 min, --, 0.1.3, romain, RESO FIXED, Double-click on Disconnect opens acount properties
00:39:04 <clokep_work> Are you tracking these in the etherpad or something?
00:42:18 <flo-retina> I'm tracking them in instantbot's log ;)
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00:50:52 <flo-retina> I think I'll use a slicemap to get rid of these annoying revisions where we move everything around to/from that mozilla/ directory
00:56:58 <flo-retina> clokep: I've put vague reminders of the stuff I need to look at tomorrow at the end of the pad.
00:57:05 <flo-retina> Going to bed now.
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04:21:10 <clokep> flo-retina: I got both things done. :)
04:21:23 <clokep> Not sure which you want to look at first, but doesn't really matter to me.
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05:33:32 <instant-buildbot> build #1602 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1602
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07:47:11 <instant-buildbot> build #1226 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1226
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11:41:57 <clokep> flo-retina: I hope what I did in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956609 isn't too hard to follow...unfortunately it easiest for me to just copy all the review comments to a text file and comment in there. :( I really should have broken it up again by patch.
11:42:20 <flo-retina> clokep: that's ok :)
11:42:32 <flo-retina> actually, I've only read the bugmail, not looked at the new patches yet
11:42:40 <flo-retina> I figured the chat/ merge was higher priority
11:42:58 <clokep> I hope I didn't mess up and like attach a bug twice. :-\ It's hard to wrangle ~15 patches for abug.
11:43:01 <clokep> Yes, it is. :)
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12:58:25 <clokep_work> Ah, I didn't realize that bug 956579 included the chat/ changes. :)
12:58:29 <clokep_work> That makes more sense.
13:02:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Any tips for pushing to try or just read the page?
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13:03:41 <flo-retina> read the page
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13:09:12 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I want to build all, right?
13:09:58 <flo-retina> you mean all OSes?
13:10:18 <flo-retina> you want a build similar to what will happen once you push to the real c-c
13:12:27 <clokep_work> I meant this try chooser thing, yes. :)
13:12:38 <clokep_work> I think "similar to what will happenw ith a real push" is the defaults.
13:39:06 * clokep_work has to remmber how to push on Windows using SSH. :-\
13:51:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=0274b635b5cd
14:03:43 <flo-retina> is the -e to receive emails?
14:07:41 <clokep_work> It appeared when I clicked the "email me for everything" option, so I assume so. :-D
14:08:49 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you have still butchered my name: Florian Quèze
14:09:15 <clokep_work> flo-retina: :-\ I'm not going to worry about it for my try push.
14:09:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Could it be an issue with encodings on Windows?
14:09:31 <flo-retina> possibly
14:09:46 <flo-retina> it's not important for try, but try is the place to try stuff ;)
14:11:19 <clokep_work> Yup! :)
14:13:32 <flo-retina> you may need to specify -encoding utf-8 or something when you hg import
14:17:41 <clokep_work> OK. I'll either play w/ it or let you push it?
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14:32:52 <flo-retina> is the encoding looking OK or broken when you look at the output of "hg out"?
14:32:56 <flo-retina> or of "hg log"
14:33:16 <flo-retina> I guess if it appears OK locally but is broken once push, it will be difficult for you to address
14:35:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: In hg log I see Florian Qu<C3><A8>ze, but I think that's what I've always seen...
14:36:33 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Ah, no it's usually Florian Qu<E8>ze...
14:36:52 <clokep_work> Both look OK in TortoiseHg.
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14:42:11 <clokep_work> 5 failed builds so far in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=0274b635b5cd :(
14:44:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: TB looks busted
14:44:17 <flo-retina> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Trunk see the "N" builds (N = Nightly), they have the same errors as your try push
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14:51:16 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't see what you mean by "N" builds. :-\
14:51:57 <flo-retina> you don't see red 'N' on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Trunk ?
14:52:29 <clokep_work> Oh, yes.
14:52:39 <clokep_work> I didn't realize you mean in the list of builds. Sorry.
14:54:45 * clokep_work was looking next to the job names. :)
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15:29:54 <instantbot> Leave me out of it!
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15:37:13 <clokep_work> For what?
15:40:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: BMO being silly
15:40:52 <flo-retina> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958070 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958071
15:41:45 <clokep_work> That's fun. :)
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17:15:34 <clokep_work> So looks like jcranmer is about to fix that bustage is there a way to "retry" my try build?
17:15:36 <clokep_work> Or do I just repush it?
17:16:07 <flo-retina> if you retry it will retry the exact same changeset, which has a busted parent
17:16:18 <flo-retina> you need to hg pull, hg rebase, hg push
17:17:49 <clokep_work> Right.
17:18:14 * clokep_work ownders if he should wait for c-c to go green first or trust jcranmer's fix...
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17:21:24 <flo-retina> clokep_work: go ahead and push to try again without waiting. (note: it's an opportunity to try fixing the encoding ;))
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18:08:32 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I just it again w/o fixing anything to do w/ the encoding.
18:08:37 <clokep_work> (I was running out the door for lunch...)
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18:33:37 <nathanr> hey guys, having gone through the process of submitting a message style I gotta wonder if you guys aren't shooting yourself in the foot with the whole process of submitting addons and having to go through the "experimental" phase. 
18:34:18 <nathanr> It makes sense once you've grown large enough to have a large dedicated community but going through the submissions of experimental addons right now it seems many devs just seem to submit it and forget about it, leading to those addons never really seeing the light of day
18:34:51 <nathanr> (I am fully aware of the irony of my raising this issue - we are working on improving our addon section significantly though :p)
18:34:54 <clokep_work> nathanr: It's just how the software works. :-\
18:35:20 <clokep_work> It's not like we ever made a policy about that AFAIK.
18:35:39 <nathanr> clokep_work: can't you configure it to a degree though ?
18:36:00 <clokep_work> You've clearly never looked at Remora. ;)
18:36:02 <flo-retina> nathanr: no
18:36:11 <nathanr> I have not, no :p
18:36:14 <clokep_work> That software is very...not customizable.
18:36:18 <nathanr> ok
18:36:19 <flo-retina> nathanr: anything that involves tweaking that website requires depressing someone ;)
18:36:22 <clokep_work> I believe we changed Firefox to Instantbird w/ sed. ;)
18:36:31 <flo-retina> clokep_work: we did!
18:36:33 <clokep_work> (It was hard coded strings IIRC.)
18:36:39 <nathanr> well I'm fairly sure the solution we're working on will be open source, so you're welcome to look into that once it's ready
18:36:45 <flo-retina> "Mozilla Firefox" was hard coded as the first product in plenty of places
18:37:04 <flo-retina> nathanr: if it works well and is easy to maintain, we may be very interested
18:37:08 <clokep_work> nathanr: That would be pretty awesome. :) I think nightingale has some sort of add-on software too?
18:37:18 <flo-retina> nathanr: remora sucks in countless ways.
18:37:58 <nathanr> mm I can see that
18:38:14 <nathanr> my other critique was that the eperimental addons are very hard to discover
18:38:52 <nathanr> fwiw we are redoing our community with XenForo, and will be using their Resource Manager (with some modifications) for our addons
18:39:29 <nathanr> which looks like this by default - http://xenforo.com/community/resources/
18:42:17 * clokep_work doesn't want to be involved in THAT migration. ;)
18:42:26 <nathanr> lol
18:42:37 <nathanr> yeah that part you'd have to do yourself :p
18:42:46 <flo-retina> clokep_work: nobody wants to be involved in that
18:42:55 <nathanr> what kind of db does remora use ?
18:43:06 <flo-retina> nathanr: mysql
18:43:18 <flo-retina> good luck to understand anything of the tables it creates though :)
18:43:26 <nathanr> ugh :p
18:43:27 <flo-retina> there are several dozens, possibly 50 :-D
18:43:39 <nathanr> does firefox still use remora ?
18:43:42 <flo-retina> no
18:44:01 <flo-retina> they switched to something else 3+ years ago I think
18:44:28 <clokep_work> zamboni is the newer one.
18:44:36 <nathanr> I'd imagine there's migrations for that one?
18:44:48 <clokep_work> I think a lot of it was done manually...
18:44:50 <flo-retina> nathanr: so I think we do need the review process. We can't let anybody put add-ons that will be found by the add-on manager's integrated search, and installed with a single click
18:45:19 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I see greens! https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=5793ec167fb4
18:45:23 <nathanr> flo-retina: right, but you might be able to shorten the experimental phase by moderating submissions
18:45:42 <flo-retina> nathanr: I definitely agree that the UI sucks
18:46:17 <flo-retina> nathanr: most of my Ib add-ons are experimental because attaching a screenshot (which is difficult for add-ons that have no visible UI) is required to request review.
18:46:21 <nathanr> maybe a simple solution would be to make the experimental addons section more prominent 
18:46:32 <flo-retina> and IIRC as an admin I can't force my add-on as public if the author hasn't requested review first...
18:46:51 <flo-retina> nathanr: anything that involves touching the code of remora is not a solution ;)
18:46:59 <nathanr> lol, that bad huh :p
18:47:34 <flo-retina> I won't try to do more than a search & replace of a string visible in the UI
18:48:19 <nathanr> you could always inject a js script that modifies the output in some simple ways
18:48:25 <clokep_work> I had to remove a seamonkey hack at one point, that was a pain. :(
18:48:33 <nathanr> its dirty but.. well it sounds like its already pretty dirty
18:49:10 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I had to fix the JSON.stringify algorithm...
18:49:21 <flo-retina> (implemented in PHP)
18:49:34 <flo-retina> the output wasn't valid, and Mozilla 2+ rejected it
18:49:52 <nathanr> huh
18:50:10 <nathanr> they had their own implementation of json_encode() or the PHP version of json_encode produced invalid output?
18:50:23 <flo-retina> they had their own
18:50:30 <nathanr> odd
18:50:33 <flo-retina> is json_encode something that was added in PHP5 or newer?
18:50:38 <flo-retina> I think remora targets php4
18:50:43 <nathanr> no its been around since 4 IIRC
18:50:54 <nathanr> although it was a bit limited back then
18:51:04 <flo-retina> PHP 5 >= 5.2.0 according to http://fr2.php.net/json_encode
18:51:06 <nathanr> ie. you had no output parameters such as convert ints
18:51:25 <nathanr> hmm really? I really thought it was in 4
18:51:44 <flo-retina> people didn't use JSON at the time PHP4 was the latest version :)
18:51:53 <flo-retina> XML was still the great new thing
18:52:02 <nathanr> yeah I suppose so
18:52:16 <nathanr> ugh you just made me remember SOAP, damn you
18:53:51 <nathanr> hmm seems fading in new messages screws up ib's scroll-to-bottom logic
18:56:53 <flo-retina> :-P
18:57:37 <flo-retina> nathanr: is your fading thing changing the size of the node?
18:58:08 <flo-retina> if you are changing the size of the node, you need to call the auto-scroll code yourself, like bubble does:     if (autoScrollEnabled())
18:58:08 <flo-retina>       scrollToElement(p);
19:04:03 <nathanr> flo-retina: no it doesnt, but I'll try that - thanks!
19:04:25 <flo-retina> would still be useful to figure out why that happens
19:04:32 <nathanr> does that take into account that the user might be scrolling up to see a past message?
19:05:01 <flo-retina> yes
19:05:01 <nathanr> well to fade in the text must first be hidden
19:05:10 <flo-retina> that's the if (autoScrollEnabled()) check
19:05:17 <nathanr> my guess is the scrollToElement code is occasionally triggered while the message is hidden 
19:05:39 <flo-retina> why aren't you using CSS animations or transitions btw? :)
19:05:40 <nathanr> cause it only happens once every 10 (+/_) messages
19:06:21 <nathanr> I guess for the fadein I could, but I cant for the bg color animations since the colors are set in the style attribute
19:06:28 <nathanr> I could get crafty though
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19:09:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: have you r? the whole new queue, or only the modified patches?
19:09:40 <flo-retina> ah, looks like 2 patches kept their r+ :)
19:10:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: The patches that weren't touched weren't reuploaded.
19:11:58 <flo-retina> ok
19:13:48 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so, it looks like you are ready to push that chat/ merge bug, right?
19:15:26 <clokep_work> flo-retina: If the encoding stuff can be figured out. :-\
19:15:36 <flo-retina> does that mean I should push it?
19:16:01 <clokep_work> I don't have time to look at it right now, so if you'd like it pushed now...probably. :)
19:16:11 <flo-retina> I want it pushed tonight
19:16:18 <flo-retina> I don't mind if it's 2 hours from now or now
19:18:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't see an easy way in Mercurial to force UTF 8 instead of the Windows code page. :-\
19:19:09 <flo-retina> I think I gave you the command line parameter
19:19:41 <flo-retina> have you tried -encoding utf-8 or --encoding utf-8 ?
19:21:14 * flo-retina was hoping to r+ everything :(
19:22:21 <clokep_work> flo-retina: OK that seems to have worked.
19:22:29 <clokep_work> The flag isn't documented in the help. :-S
19:31:54 <clokep_work> flo-retina: OK I'm rebasing now, so I'll push momentarily.
19:32:08 <flo-retina> rebasing?
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19:34:14 <clokep_work> A couple of commits were pushed.
19:44:57 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you've got your reviews. 3 r-s, the others are + :)
19:48:03 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks so much!
19:48:10 <clokep_work> I think I pushed your name in the proper encoding this time! :)
19:49:16 <flo-retina> looks like it! :)
19:49:17 <flo-retina> thanks
19:49:46 <flo-retina> looks like your try server push was more broken than I thought. All the relevant changesets are together in a single changeset attributed to nhnt11
19:49:55 <flo-retina> but the one on c-c seems good :)
19:50:46 <clokep_work> Yeah, it's because I qimported one and imported the other.
19:51:40 <clokep_work> And someone already pushed after me. :P
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19:53:11 <flo-retina> that's why we will want to close the tree ;)
19:53:28 <clokep_work> That's definitely going to bitrot my patch queue. :-\
19:53:31 <clokep_work> Well the first commit. :)
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20:19:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks. Seems the comments are straight forward.
20:19:53 <clokep_work> I wonder if try would work with another application...
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20:21:07 <flo-retina> if you find how to change the mozconfig to --enable-application=im, it should build
20:21:32 <flo-retina> it may fail to upload if there's a check for the name of the file
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20:32:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: It looks like there are a few changes in chat/ in c-c that we don't have in ib.
20:32:27 <clokep_work> At least the diff when I copy over ib -> c-c of chat/ is not just makefiles/moz.build as I expected. :(
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20:34:34 <flo-retina> clokep_work: pastebin?
20:35:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/527200
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20:37:06 <flo-retina> the + lines are ib, and - are tb, right?
20:38:41 <flo-retina> I don't really understand how you got this diff
20:38:51 <flo-retina> there are plenty of makefile stuff in this pastebin
20:39:05 <clokep_work> Why is that surprising to you at all? :-S
20:39:05 <flo-retina> and some files where you seem to be having line ending issues
20:39:42 <flo-retina> in twitter-text.jsm you definitely have encoding issues
20:39:58 <clokep_work> That diff is after doing a cp ../instantbird/chat . while in comm-central.
20:40:05 <clokep_work> And then it's hg diff chat/
20:40:23 <flo-retina> it would be more interesting to do that after applying the patches from your queue
20:41:22 <clokep_work> I don't understand what that would show, it would essentially just unapply a bunch of them.
20:41:40 <flo-retina> it would hide the stuff we already know about and expect
20:44:31 <clokep_work> I'm not sure I agree. :-\
20:55:59 * clokep_work wonders if he missed porting a Yahoo changeset. :-\
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21:10:49 <clokep_work> Well I found 1 changeset that we didn't port from c-c to ib.
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21:13:32 <clokep_work> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dce9df4b6baa
21:21:11 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8aac6b75a0af - Geoff Lankow - Bug 749930 - Replace uses of nsILocalFile with nsIFile (compiled code only); r=Fallen,Neil sr=Standard8
21:21:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dce9df4b6baa - Florian Quèze - Fix chat unit test bustage from bug 812995 Support 'blink' value at -moz-text-decoration-line and drop -moz-text-blink - rs=bustage fix for CLOSED TREE
21:22:48 <flo-retina> that nsIFile one surprises me; I remember doing that kind of changes.
21:23:03 <flo-retina> But maybe I've only done it in purple/ for the Tb add-on :-|
21:23:23 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I just uploaded another patch to the port bug #7...do I need approval to push that or?
21:23:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7 cri, P5, ---, florian, RESO INVALID, libpangocairo nonexistant in RHEL4
21:23:29 <clokep_work> I missed one changeset cause the name confused me. :(
21:23:48 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8357980&action=edit
21:24:11 <clokep_work> After these....it looks like there's a line ending issue and the encoding issue + build things (expected).
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21:24:21 <clokep_work> When I do a diff of the two repositories.
21:26:08 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so what I was saying is: if you apply https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8357542&action=diff to your ib repository, the diff should be way more readable
21:26:36 <flo-retina> ah, you are using cp and hg diff :(
21:26:55 <flo-retina> why not |diff -ru ib/chat c-c/chat| ?
21:27:00 <clokep_work> That's what I Just did.
21:27:04 <clokep_work> Gives the same result though.
21:27:46 <flo-retina> why do you have build system junk in your diff after doing that?
21:28:10 <clokep_work> Umm...I'm really confused at how I wouldn't.
21:28:13 <clokep_work> I have c-c, I have ib.
21:28:18 <clokep_work> I'm doing a diff of them.
21:28:25 <clokep_work> Are you saying to apply that patch first?
21:28:57 <flo-retina> I'm confused by how what I've said, starting with "if you apply ..." could be interpreted differently :-S
21:29:28 <clokep_work> Because I'm unsure if that was a connected idea or not.
21:29:37 <clokep_work> I can't just apply that patch though.
21:29:49 <clokep_work> Not without copying the source over first.
21:30:06 <flo-retina> why?
21:30:22 <flo-retina> I'm starting to think I'll do the diff myself :-P
21:31:04 <clokep_work> OK.
21:31:06 <clokep_work> Let me be clear.
21:31:11 <clokep_work> IF you start with a clean c-c.
21:31:21 <clokep_work> You can't apply the diff removing a bunch of stuff that isn't there.
21:31:34 <flo-retina> I would apply that patch to Ib.
21:31:36 <flo-retina> not c-c
21:31:43 <clokep_work> Ah. I see.
21:31:52 <clokep_work> That was not clear.
21:32:11 <flo-retina> "if you apply https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8357542&action=diff to your ib repository" :-|
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21:34:49 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/527281
21:35:00 <clokep_work> That has a patch I haven't pushed yet to c-c.
21:35:12 <clokep_work> And the revert chat/'s make stuff applied to ib.
21:37:31 <flo-retina> so there's the tooltip bug. The vkontakte line is because you need to update the makefile patch, then there's some encoding issue in twitter-text, these strange "avoid bustage" lines, and likely line ending issues in test_yahooAccount.js and contacts.properties
21:38:09 <clokep_work> The avoid bustage lines are in c-c, I thought... I think someone added them and we added them in ib too.
21:38:30 <clokep_work> Yeah I wonder what's with the line ending issues, that one is weird to me.
21:38:34 <flo-retina> I've never seen them before today
21:38:41 <flo-retina> so yeah, I'm sure they are in c-c
21:38:46 <flo-retina> but I don't know what their purpose is
21:38:53 <clokep_work> Avoiding bustages! Clearly. :P
21:38:59 <flo-retina> heh :)
21:39:36 <clokep_work> Anyway, i need to go.
21:39:41 <clokep_work> (And won't be back online till late.)
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21:42:45 <clokep_work> Goodnight. :)
21:42:51 <clokep_work> (I'll try to fix up those patches again tonight btw...)
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21:42:58 <clokep_work> ANd maybe figure out what's with those other issues in that pastebin.
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22:21:15 <flo-retina> the js shell doesn't seem in the mood of processing my hg export of the ib repo :-S
22:21:55 <flo-retina> ah, no, trivial mistake :)
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22:30:32 <flo-retina> we have 2117 file renames in our current ib repo
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22:41:53 <flo-retina> after doing some filtering, the interesting moves are http://pastebin.instantbird.com/527352
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23:25:44 * flo-retina updated hg from 2.3 to 2.8.2, in the hope that results will be better
23:27:14 <flo-retina> same results
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23:31:04 <flo-retina> http://bz.selenic.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2243 "wontfix" :(
23:31:41 <flo-retina> http://bz.selenic.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2243#c3 looks a lot like others have done worse than us at importing bugzillas ;)
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