#instantbird log on 01 01 2014

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00:01:55 <flo-retina> clokep: all of this sounds like "session restore", ie. 'after restarting, the state should be exactly the same; nothing should get lost'
00:03:36 * flo-retina wishes Instantbird and everybody in our community a happy 2014 :)
00:23:08 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, nice
00:23:18 <GeekShadow> also happy 2014
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03:10:24 <Mic2> It could be that deOmega is using my "Session Restore" add-on.
03:10:37 <Mic2> That would explain the conversations on hold at restarts.
03:26:57 <Mic2> Happy new year!
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04:19:47 <instant-buildbot> build #1067 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1067
07:25:50 <instant-buildbot> build #1534 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1534
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08:40:41 <instant-buildbot> build #1217 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1217
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08:55:29 <nhnt11> Happy new year everyone! :)
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13:53:29 <qheaden> Hello everyone.
13:56:11 <qheaden> So are we clear to file new Ib bugs on BMO now?
13:57:01 <flo-retina> qheaden: yes! :)
13:57:08 <qheaden> :)
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13:57:22 <qheaden> I have a bug to file. One I forgot a while ago.
13:57:40 * qheaden tries to be aleth to the first JS-Yahoo bug filed on BMO. ;)
13:57:45 <qheaden> *beat aleth
13:59:43 <qheaden> flo-retina: So I guess that also means we are clear to reset our passwords?
14:00:43 <flo-retina> qheaden: I think clokep emailed everybody who has sent temporary passwords to say "thank you" and say the passwords could be changed again
14:01:09 * qheaden didn't get the email. :(
14:01:45 <clokep> flo-retina: I think I actually forgot to say in it you can change your passwords. ;)
14:01:52 <clokep> But I said we were done using it.
14:02:02 <clokep> qheaden: I might have missed you, sorry.
14:02:28 <qheaden> clokep: That's fine. I was here during the migration anyway so I wasn't in the dark. ;)
14:02:41 <clokep> I think you didn't reply to the original email. :)
14:03:35 <qheaden> I thought I did. Oh well.
14:05:30 <clokep> Idk, maybe I marked it as read then.
14:05:32 <clokep> Whatever.
14:06:26 <clokep> qheaden: I fwded it.
14:07:18 <qheaden> "we're excited to be moving to BMO!" I second that. :)
14:13:46 <clokep> flo-retina: Did we want to make the "merge chat changes bugs" depend on all the bugs that were part of it or just put a comment with the proper bug #s?
14:17:47 <qheaden> Is instantbot BMO aware yet?
14:17:51 <clokep> Not yet.
14:17:55 <qheaden> Okay.
14:18:16 <qheaden> I just filed bug 955910 fwiw.
14:18:21 <clokep> I got the email. :)
14:18:41 * qheaden somehow forgot about email alerts.
14:19:37 <clokep> Florian and I already watch the components, so we should get all email for those.
14:22:47 <clokep> flo-retina: We need to repoint the email address that goes to the mailing list for all IB bugs.
14:23:01 <clokep> (Which probably means, making an account on BMO and component watching.)
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15:18:10 <flo-retina> clokep: "put a comment with the proper bug #s" seems enough to me
15:18:43 <flo-retina> clokep: yes, we need to create that BMO account
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15:36:58 <deOmega> mic2: yes, I am using your session restore.
15:37:03 <deOmega> Happy new year all
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15:43:38 <Mic2> Thanks, happy new year to you as well
15:49:05 <Mic2>  /re would be a nice command to return from away ;)
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17:41:26 <flo-retina> Mic2: Make it happen?
17:41:34 <flo-retina> I usually type /back, and /ba fails ;)
17:42:13 <flo-retina> hmm, there's already a /remove command
17:42:25 <flo-retina> which seems to be an alias for /kick
17:44:24 <Mic2> flo-retina: do you know if deOmega has a BMO account? I wanted to add him to the CC list of the migrated bug 958.
17:44:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Show last messages (history) in new chat windows
17:44:42 <flo-retina> I think clokep said he needs to create one
17:44:44 <Mic2> His BIO email adress didn't work.
17:45:10 <clokep> Mic2: He does not.
17:45:18 <clokep> There's another bug or two I wanted to do things w/ him as.
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22:02:10 <GeekShadow> so you might remove msn/wlm in instantbird now no ?
22:15:35 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: is it broken?
22:19:56 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, microsoft wlm/msn servers are down no ?
22:20:05 <flo-retina> since when?
22:21:19 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, since they migrated to skype
22:21:27 <flo-retina> no
22:21:44 <flo-retina> afaik they just killed the XMPP gateways
22:21:54 <GeekShadow> oh
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22:25:42 <clokep> I'm talking to someone on MSN right now, it still works. ;)
22:26:14 <GeekShadow> I thought they shutted down servers
22:27:06 <GeekShadow> oh yeah it's working for me :o
22:28:40 <GeekShadow> clokep, flo-retina I'm receiving offline messages from skype friends under @fakeSkypeDomain.fakedomain
22:28:56 <clokep> GeekShadow: Yes, so? :P
22:29:03 <clokep> Is that a bug?
22:29:05 <clokep> What's your point? :P
22:29:34 <GeekShadow> hmm it's weird, because I received two offline messages but those didn't shows up in skype before
22:29:51 <GeekShadow> so I assume they still ran a skype<->wlm bridge
22:30:05 <clokep> They do, there are probably issues w/ it.
22:30:08 <clokep> They're outta our control.
22:36:44 <clokep> I'd actually like MSN to finally die though. ;)
22:37:56 <flo-retina> yeah, that would be another thing we could celebrate ;)
22:40:04 <flo-retina> clokep: so when are we starting the c-c merge?
22:40:33 <clokep> flo-retina: I was literally typing you that question in #chatev.
22:41:32 <clokep> flo-retina: We should probably draft a plan for that soon and start writing the convert scrpit.
22:43:16 <flo-retina> what is the convert script expected to do?
22:43:33 <clokep> Map bio bugs to bmo bugs, right?
22:43:33 <flo-retina> Isn't that just an hg convert call, with a (relatively large) map of commit messages?
22:43:43 <flo-retina> I don't expect that to be the difficult part
22:43:45 <clokep> Maybe that's all it is, yes.
22:44:06 <clokep> We also need to pull out the /purple stuff into a separate repository (I believe)
22:44:16 <clokep> And update IB to trunk somehow.
22:44:29 <clokep> Which I was going to start working on soon.
22:45:44 <flo-retina> I think 'make Ib work with mozilla-central, and an unmodified comm-central build system' will be the time consuming part
22:46:16 <clokep> Yes.
22:46:38 <clokep> Do you think it makes sense to try to throw it into c-c and build stuff or to update to m-c first?
22:51:27 <flo-retina> I would take a recent clone of c-c.
22:52:01 <flo-retina> Stick the instantbird (renamed to im/) folder in there, copy the current chat/ code into comm-central's chat/, comment that with a commit message making it very explicit that it's not intended to be pushed that way
22:52:06 <flo-retina> then start fixing it until it works.
22:52:33 <flo-retina> the patches to fix that will need reviews
22:52:42 <flo-retina> while someone works on that, someone else can work on figuring out the hg convert stuff.
22:52:54 <clokep> Sounds reasonable.
22:53:03 <flo-retina> once the patches are reviewed, and we are happy with the hg migration AND we have verified we aren't busting Tb, it can land.
22:53:06 <clokep> Copy ib's chat/ into c-c/s chat/ except for build stuff, I assume.
22:53:31 * flo-retina likes splitting large problems into several reasonably sized sub projects ;)
22:53:45 <flo-retina> except for which build stuff?
22:54:00 <clokep> moz.build files, stuff.
22:54:58 <flo-retina> I think we will want to review changes from what's on Ib's repo currently
22:55:17 <flo-retina> we should have a working codebase on both sides of the final merge
22:56:28 <clokep> :)
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23:47:15 <aleth> Happy New Year everybody! :)
23:49:02 <flo-retina> aleth: hey :)
23:49:18 <flo-retina> aleth: we should land the existring c-c sync patch on c-c before merging Ib in, yes
23:49:42 <flo-retina> but it doesn't really matter for the "make Ib work with current c-c/m-c" work
23:50:01 <flo-retina> it's more for the "we have verified we aren't busting Tb" part that I think it will help
23:50:23 <aleth> And just so it doesn't get forgotten (clokep did some porting by hand there iirc)
23:50:56 <clokep> I did, yes.
23:51:11 <clokep> Hopefully it hasn't bit rotted. :-/
23:51:52 <flo-retina> I need to review that
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