#instantbird log on 12 20 2013

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00:00:43 <flo-retina> ok, staging works
00:03:38 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2122 to FIXED.
00:03:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2122 nor, --, ---, clokep, RESO FIXED, Update Linux system requirements page
00:05:42 <flo-retina> Mic2: I'm ready to test changes, do you have something I can test/look at?
00:06:40 <Mic2> I've added all the strings and put them into a bullet list but I need to reorganize them a bit to make it look decent (e.g. adding a known issues section).
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00:09:07 <flo-retina> Mic2: I'm blocked on this. There's nothing else to do.
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00:15:34 <clokep_work> Mic2: To be clear, what are you working on?W hat will you post?
00:16:23 <Mic2> I've taken the release notes list and converted it to the format as we had it for other release notes.
00:16:27 <Mic2> Totally untested: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/488680
00:16:38 <flo-retina> great!
00:16:41 <flo-retina> it will be tested in 2 minnutes
00:16:57 <Mic2> The version numbers are wrong :(
00:17:27 <clokep_work> The Mozilla version is wrong too, not just 1.4.
00:17:41 <flo-retina> should I take it over?
00:18:19 <Mic2> clokep_work: number*s* ;)
00:19:20 <Mic2> flo-retina: in the sense of finish what's left or what do you mean?
00:20:25 <flo-retina> does the stagging website work for you?
00:21:13 <clokep_work> Is it www-stagingn2?
00:21:43 <flo-retina> yes
00:21:48 <flo-retina> or staging.instantbird.com
00:21:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: The front page still says 1.4.
00:22:02 <clokep_work> And links to the 1.4 download.
00:22:04 <flo-retina> reload
00:22:25 <flo-retina> http://staging.instantbird.com/release-notes.html
00:22:29 <clokep_work> :)
00:22:58 <clokep_work> The third to last and second to last bullet aren't done.
00:23:17 <clokep_work> The second to last one I think is fulfilled by the one below it.
00:25:08 <clokep_work> bug 1995 should be a link in the last known issues bullet point.
00:25:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1995 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IB does not open links, as http/https handlers not populated
00:26:03 <clokep_work> That's all I've got.
00:26:07 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Mic2 ^
00:26:11 <Mic2> I've fixed a part of that already.
00:28:30 <clokep_work> OK.
00:29:45 <flo-retina> is http://staging.instantbird.com/release-notes.html good enough?
00:30:10 <flo-retina> you can follow what I've pushed on http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/www.instantbird.com/
00:30:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I greatly dislike that link to lxr in the middle of it. :(
00:30:27 <clokep_work> But besides that.
00:30:45 <flo-retina> you mean the link that isn't a link? ;)
00:30:51 <clokep_work> (We don't have a "For developers" section usually do we?)
00:30:52 <clokep_work> Yes, that. :)
00:31:08 <Mic2> I've got links in my current version.
00:31:23 <flo-retina> use an hg diff for changes
00:31:31 <clokep_work> Mic2: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/tabbrowser.xml#427
00:31:34 <Mic2> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/488695
00:32:22 <clokep_work> That's not a diff against the current.
00:32:57 <Mic2> I know.
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00:33:39 <flo-retina> the diff against current is http://pastebin.instantbird.com/488696
00:35:01 <flo-retina> have you fully removed the "Various minor bugs and a few crashers fixed." line?
00:35:49 <Mic2> Yes, I thought that's what clokep meant?
00:36:03 <Mic2> "The second to last one I think is fulfilled by the one below it."
00:37:47 <flo-retina> I didn't even try to understand what that obscure sentence could mean :-D
00:38:28 <Mic2> Is there anything I should do now?
00:40:26 <flo-retina> uh, that (http://staging.instantbird.com/release-notes.html) didn't turn out like I wanted
00:41:37 <Mic2> There's a " after this string: bug 1995
00:41:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1995 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IB does not open links, as http/https handlers not populated
00:42:09 <Mic2> And the lxr link is broken too
00:42:31 <Mic2> Sorry, hg link for the tabbrowser documentation.
00:42:45 <flo-retina> is everything looking OK now?
00:44:53 <Mic2> Typo: "Linux distrobutions"
00:45:25 <flo-retina> bah, I had fixed that in the pad :-/
00:45:26 <Mic2> I haven't seen anything else.
00:45:26 <flo-retina> thanks
00:45:46 <flo-retina> so we should ship it, right?
00:46:04 <flo-retina> typo fixed
00:47:11 <Mic2> If there's nothing else to do first?
00:47:25 <flo-retina> I dont see anything else
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00:49:14 topic changed by flo-retina to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.5! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: http://bugzilla.instantbird.org"
00:49:39 <flo-retina> tomorrow we need to publish the blog post
00:49:56 <flo-retina> I would be very happy to not have to deal with it myself
00:50:05 <flo-retina> I would like to start focusing seriously on the BIO migration
00:50:55 <Mic2> I'll be away during the day and I'm not sure about the evening. Maybe aleth would have some time for it?
00:51:14 <Mic2> Good night!
00:51:21 <flo-retina> Good night
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00:51:41 <flo-retina> I'll look into the update database tomorrow to enable auto-updates
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10:14:00 * flo-retina is surprised clokep is offline :-P.
10:14:27 <flo-retina> (not _really_ surprised though, that was just to match the previous message in the log ;))
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11:20:35 * clokep just had no conversation window. :-S
11:20:58 <clokep> But when I opened another conversation from hold it popped up including the conversation that I autojoin...
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11:27:44 <flo-retina> FYI, I've renabled nightlies
11:28:42 <flo-retina> clokep: good morning :)
11:28:54 <clokep> Hello.
11:29:00 <clokep> Good might be an overstatement. :-\
11:29:19 <flo-retina> what's wrong?
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12:56:54 <clokep_work> That release announcement is a mess. :-\
13:16:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Does searching descriptions of channels work? I forget. :(
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14:11:57 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So I pretty much rewrote the release announcement: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5 if you're interested.
14:12:01 <clokep_work> Not really done yet...
14:15:51 <flo-retina> where are the screenshots?
14:19:03 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the text is looking good.
14:19:08 <flo-retina> it really wants screenshots
14:22:01 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't have screenshots.
14:22:12 <flo-retina> neither do I :-P
14:22:26 <clokep_work> :-\
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14:34:21 <clokep_work> The "what's next?" section is fairly boring. :(
14:40:13 <flo-retina> I don't think we want to talk too publicly about what we are doing about BIO and c-c until it's finished
14:40:43 <clokep_work> That's not exciting for users anyway.
14:40:48 <clokep_work> There's no reason to even mention it to them IMO.
14:40:56 <flo-retina> yeah
14:41:07 <flo-retina> we will have a revised release process
14:41:20 <flo-retina> but it's difficult to mention before we have a draft plan we can request feedback on
14:42:29 * clokep_work thinks he'll just leave it out for now. :)
14:42:35 <flo-retina> yeah
14:42:41 <flo-retina> we should blog later about it
14:44:40 <clokep_work> So I guess it's just images.
14:44:52 <clokep_work> Anyone in here want to make some images for a blog post? :)
14:50:56 * clokep_work wonders if he can get JosiahOne to make some screenshots...
15:01:58 <clokep_work> He's going to email them to me. :)
15:05:58 <flo-retina> cool
15:06:58 <clokep_work> I still hate having conversations on Twitter though. ;)
15:07:33 <flo-retina> heh, I was wondering why that wasn't on #maildev :)
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15:33:36 <clokep_work> JosiahOne: Hello. :)
15:33:41 <clokep_work> Got tired of talking over twitter? ;)
15:33:46 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: Hey.
15:33:59 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: No, I'm just using this for the tooltips.
15:34:21 <flo-retina> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26034/instantbird has already updated
15:35:21 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: Oh, and did you want just the tooltip, or the tooltip + the window?
15:37:21 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2exvf4d82bxutb8/9qGpBRK3qW
15:38:35 <clokep_work> flo-retina: ^
15:38:42 <clokep_work> JosiahOne: I can't get on dropbox at work, unfortunately. :-/
15:39:06 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: Ah, okay. I can email them to you if you want.
15:39:51 <flo-retina> I'm in a call right now
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15:41:45 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: Just sent them to your gmail account. Hopefully you can view those. ;)
15:44:51 <clokep_work> Yes, I got them.
15:45:07 <clokep_work> I think Florian wants a few changes made, but he's busy at the moment (and I'm about to go to a meeting) :(
15:45:10 <clokep_work> Thanks! :)
15:45:57 <JosiahOne> clokep_work: Np.
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15:57:40 <clokep_work> Bah my friend had a Norton security warning on 1.5.
15:57:44 <clokep_work> Deleted freebl3.dll.
16:15:01 <flo-retina> can he uninstall norton? It's a large piece of malware ;).
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16:39:07 <clokep_work> :)
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20:32:51 <clokep> flo-retina: So...how do I run fake?
20:33:04 <flo-retina> from what I remember, FAKE=1 in the environment
20:33:06 <flo-retina> on a debug build
20:33:19 <clokep> On a clean profile, right?
20:34:13 <clokep> Hmmm...
20:34:34 <clokep> Do I have to do anything after it loads?
20:39:07 <clokep> :-S
20:40:43 <clokep> flo-retina: So I don't see this in there...
20:43:41 <clokep> OK, I got it to run but there's a syntax error...
20:54:42 <clokep> flo-retina: http://imgur.com/kJRjnOg,x5PHJiq These look reasonable?
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20:55:40 <flo-retina> you can easily improve the first one
20:55:59 <flo-retina> close the #instantbird tab to avoid the tab overflow
20:56:13 * clokep isn't sure how that's an improvement.
20:56:16 <clokep> But if you think it looks better, sure.
20:56:29 <flo-retina> clokep: it reduces the clutter, to show only what we want to show
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20:57:00 <clokep> flo-retina: Should I close all the conversations then?
20:57:17 <flo-retina> you need to keep at least one tab, right?
20:57:29 <flo-retina> Keep Emma :)
20:57:35 <clokep> Oh? Is she cute? P
20:57:50 <flo-retina> clokep: she's Available!
20:58:08 <flo-retina> William is Unknown :-P
20:58:13 <clokep> :)
20:58:17 <clokep> flo-retina: OK, what about the tooltip one?
20:58:30 <flo-retina> it is OK
20:59:08 <flo-retina> it sucks that the margins are broken there... but that's not the screenshot's fault
21:01:18 <clokep> flo-retina: My blog post wants to link to a part of the FAQ which doesn't exist yet. :-/
21:07:53 <flo-retina> so now you are writing FAQ entries? cool :-P
21:08:09 <flo-retina> (the good thing is: now the staging server works and I know how to push changes to the website ;))
21:10:46 <clokep> flo-retina: Either that or I can inline that statement for now...
21:12:21 <clokep> Oops, I just published the blog post...
21:14:41 * clokep shrugs.
21:14:45 <clokep> I think it looks OK. ;)
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21:16:38 <clokep> Soooooooo BIO merge?
21:16:40 <flo-retina> "A major user interface improvement that was included for Instantbird 1.5" is a bit strange
21:16:56 <clokep> I can edit it if you'd like.
21:17:01 <flo-retina> maybe "very visible" instead of "major"?
21:17:12 <clokep> OK.
21:17:18 <clokep> Mic2 shows up just after we publish the post. ;)
21:17:25 <flo-retina> of course!
21:18:23 <Mic2> Hi!
21:18:30 <clokep> Hello.
21:18:36 * clokep goes to look at the BIO stuff.
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21:19:00 * flo-retina was hoping to go to bed early to have more energy tomorrow for the BIO stuff :(
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21:25:41 <clokep> flo-retina: We never emailed / asked people for passwords / cookies / whatevs.
21:25:56 <flo-retina> yes, now may be a good time to start doing that
21:27:30 <clokep> Which are we asking for?
21:34:50 <flo-retina> I don't know :)
21:35:29 <flo-retina> we want at least clokep, Mic, aleth, wnayes, nhnt11 (I already have a temporary password from him), qheaden
21:35:37 <flo-retina> for the others I don't know
21:35:39 <clokep> Even
21:35:44 <clokep> Most likely.
21:35:46 <flo-retina> clokep: do you have access to the list of people with editbugs?
21:35:52 <clokep> Oh BIO/
21:35:59 <clokep> I have access to user accounts.
21:36:18 <clokep> All it gives is a search page, can I just list them somehow?
21:36:29 <clokep> Oh, yes. I have it. :)
21:37:00 <clokep> Mook, maybe?
21:41:31 <flo-retina> clokep: we have 23 users with editbugs
21:57:27 <clokep> Right.
21:59:31 * clokep is unsure if he's supposed to do something or not> :-/
21:59:40 <clokep> (So I'm gonna go have some goldfish.)
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22:08:45 <flo-retina> clokep: doing something seems great!
22:13:13 <clokep> Well I'm eating Goldfish, does that count?
22:16:22 <flo-retina> it does!
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