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All the other files are on the server 09:14:46 <flo-retina> but of course a nightly started immediately after that upload timeout, clobbering the objdir :'( 09:16:35 <instant-buildbot> build #1429 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1429 09:24:25 <flo-retina> the error message for the failed Mac nightly is "/bin/sh: /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file". Is that a joke? :-S 09:24:44 <instant-buildbot> build #1205 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Exception [6exception] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1205 09:56:57 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 10:03:43 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:07:13 <alexis> hey, any way to integrate the notifications from instantbird with gnome3? 10:20:26 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:33:41 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:49:21 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 10:49:37 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:49:37 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:50:11 <flo-retina> hello :) 10:53:24 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 11:21:50 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:21:50 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:25:25 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:26:27 <clokep> Hello. 11:26:49 <alexis> hi 11:27:13 <alexis> Trying to re-ask a previous question: Do you know any way to integrate the notifications from instantbird with gnome3? 11:29:07 <clokep> "Any way" would probably be "write an extension that does this" 11:29:16 <clokep> If one exists for Fx/Tb already, this should be easy. 11:29:40 <alexis> ok thx 11:29:49 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 11:30:24 <clokep> alexis: Sorry I don't have a better answer...notification center things on Linux are...complicated to say the least. 11:31:03 <alexis> clokep: hmm, I see. 11:31:20 <alexis> clokep: I will try to hack something out when I'll find the time :) 11:31:25 <alexis> (that is, not now :p) 11:31:28 <clokep> :) 11:31:34 <clokep> aleth might have more information since he actually uses Linux 11:32:51 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 11:33:18 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 11:34:44 <flo-retina> or he used linux ;) 11:35:49 <clokep> :) 11:36:10 <flo-retina> https://wiki.mozilla.org/BMO/Requesting_Changes is fairly well documented 11:36:13 <clokep> Do we have any idea what's up w/ the windows rc then? 11:36:20 * flo-retina wonders if he can find someone to gather all that data for us 11:36:39 <clokep> I can do it. :P 11:36:42 <flo-retina> clokep: the state of the Mac one is more confusing to me. 11:37:04 <flo-retina> clokep: but a summary that applies to both Mac and Windows is "frustrating"! :( 11:37:34 <flo-retina> the current Mac build seems frozen while checking out the cs locale (that makes no sense, it was already on the local disk from a previous attempt...) 11:37:58 <flo-retina> I killed a previous run that was frozen while repackaging the et locale 11:38:39 <clokep> :-S 11:38:42 <flo-retina> one run worked fine, but timed out during the end of the upload (if a nightly hadn't started immediately after it, I would have been able to finish the upload by hand and claim that run was successful) 11:39:20 <flo-retina> for the windows case... we've been losing the slave randomly + the OS was Windows, making retrying painful, because the behavior of the file system is random... as usual. 11:39:48 <flo-retina> The slave is currently offline (normal shutdown during the day), I emailed Even to restart it. Even doesn't seem online today; I don't know why :( 11:40:05 <clokep> :-/ 11:40:11 <clokep> Did you try rebooting it yet? 11:40:25 <flo-retina> rebooting an offline machine? 11:40:49 <clokep> Before it was offline! 11:40:56 <clokep> (Also, I don't know if "offline" is a halt or suspend.) 11:41:32 <flo-retina> it's VMWare shutting down the VM 11:42:17 <flo-retina> we will lose the Mac slave soon (it will shutdown itself in ~20 minutes) 11:45:02 <clokep> :( 11:45:40 <flo-retina> at this point I have a hard time believing that us losing the slaves so frequently is due to connection flakiness 11:45:55 <flo-retina> the mac slave is ssh-tunneling into the server, so that connection should be ok. 11:46:08 <flo-retina> and the Windows slave is on the same physical machine as the linux slave; which is perfectly stable. 11:46:31 <flo-retina> it sounds more like yet another instance of "buildbot sucks" :( 11:51:13 <flo-retina> I wonder what's causing "mkdir -p /Users/buildbot/buildslave/macosx/build//Users/buildbot/buildslave/macosx/obj-instantbird" 11:51:42 <flo-retina> ah: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/locales/Makefile.in#218 11:51:56 <flo-retina> looks like for some reason L10NBASEDIR is now an absolute path 11:53:38 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:07:19 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 12:07:52 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:21:43 <flo-retina> I wonder how the mozillians search (doesn't) work 12:21:55 <flo-retina> I was looking for my mozillians id to give a link to my profile. 12:22:00 <flo-retina> I searched "florian" in the search box 12:22:12 <flo-retina> that gave me the mozillian page of another Florian, and only that one. 12:22:28 <flo-retina> then after logging in, it turns out my mozillian page is: https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/florian/ !! 12:38:32 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 12:42:21 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 12:44:46 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 12:47:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:47:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:48:00 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 12:55:56 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:56:06 * clokep is now known as clokep_work 12:58:04 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 13:00:16 <aleth-mac> "/bin/sh: /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file" has got to be a late contender for the error message of the year award ;) 13:00:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:00:46 <hadi> Why i can't minimize instantbird to tray? it just does not work, i press f9. i also tried file>minimize to tray but that does not work either 13:01:16 <aleth-mac> hadi: Which OS are you on? 13:01:30 <hadi> windows 7 32, instantbird is 1.4 13:01:56 <hadi> i noticed that when instantbird'w window remains for a long time (20 minutes maybe?) then i can't minimize it any longer 13:01:57 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:02:21 <hadi> if i exit it and then relaunch (which makes my accounts to reconnect) then it works again 13:02:23 <aleth-mac> hadi: That's very strange. What's your settings in Preferences? 13:02:25 <clokep_work> hadi: Just to be clear...only the contact list can be minimized, are you trying to minimize the conversation window? 13:02:55 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I've been really disappointed in Mozillians. But maybe that's because I can't log into it anymore. ;) 13:03:06 <hadi> clokep_work: yes i'm trying to minimize the contact list, it just does not work at all. 13:03:19 <hadi> aleth-mac: ... all of them? 13:03:24 <nhnt11> Hi 13:03:29 * nhnt11 looks for a bug to fix 13:04:06 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 13:04:14 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 13:04:35 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:05:43 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Could you maybe write a quick thing for the release blog post about the awesometab instead? 13:05:51 <nhnt11> Sure. 13:06:01 <clokep_work> (Or in addition to! :-D) 13:06:15 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I started something on https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5 but I don't like it, feel free to trash it. 13:06:48 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 13:06:54 <-- jb1 has quit (Input/output error) 13:07:17 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:07:36 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:08:48 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 13:09:04 <aleth-mac> hadi: No, just the one related to the tray 13:09:31 <hadi> aleth-mac: where is that? tools>options? 13:10:14 <aleth-mac> Tools-Preferences-General 13:10:59 * aleth-mac wonders how much work it would be to make instantbot log in JSON 13:11:17 <clokep_work> aleth-mac: Rewrite the perl module that does the logging. 13:12:18 <aleth-mac> Oh, did you say perl? 13:12:29 * aleth-mac shudders 13:12:46 <hadi> aleth-mac: show icon in system tray is checked. minimize contacts window to tray: instead of closing. 13:12:55 <hadi> that one is selected 13:13:06 <aleth-mac> So when you close the contacts list, it should minimize to the tray. 13:13:31 <hadi> um, pressing f9. right? 13:14:44 <aleth-mac> No, Alt-F4 I believe 13:15:05 * aleth-mac is not on Windows 13:15:20 <hadi> aleth-mac: alt-f4 does not work either 13:15:28 <nhnt11> flo-retina, clokep_work: Don't we want to include something about the new tabbrowser api in the release notes? 13:15:36 <nhnt11> For extension developers.. 13:15:42 <hadi> the thing is that it works, but if i leave the contacts window open for let's say 15 minutes, then it does not work anymore 13:15:46 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Yes. 13:15:59 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Just a one liner saying you can now add arbitrary tabs or something. 13:16:04 <clokep_work> And we should have made you document that on the wiki. ;) 13:16:13 <clokep_work> hadi: Check the error console for errors. 13:16:14 <nhnt11> Yeah. And I'll link to that huge comment in tabbrowser.xml 13:16:21 <aleth-mac> hadi: Weird. 13:17:53 <hadi> clokep_work: I openned the error console window but don't know how to work with it... ;d 13:22:10 <clokep_work> hadi: It's a list of errors and warnings. If any of them have information about the minimize to tray code, that would be useful. 13:22:21 <clokep_work> I don't know if it's accessible or not, however. 13:22:25 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Thanks. :-D 13:27:09 <hadi> clokep_work: oh well, i think it's not. i just can see a list of files that i can enter and it shows a page of codes 13:39:03 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:39:11 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 13:45:05 <nhnt11> I've written a draft, I'll post it on the etherpad 13:45:18 <aleth-mac> nhnt11: Great :) 13:45:23 <nhnt11> I'm not extremely happy with it, but I'll work on it further later (going out now) 13:47:11 <nhnt11> ok, bye for now! i'll check back on the etherpad later. 13:49:00 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:03:03 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 14:04:20 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:10:30 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Is my understand of "we need to wait for Even to come online" the current state of the buildbot stuff? 14:10:45 <flo-retina> clokep_work: that's only for Windows. 14:10:57 <flo-retina> clokep_work: and we can start testing Linux and Mac if we want 14:11:06 <clokep_work> Mac finished? 14:11:20 <flo-retina> we just know that the Mac RC can't be released because some of the mar update files are missing; but that doesn't prevent dogfooding it a bit 14:11:28 <clokep_work> Ah. :) 14:20:46 <flo-retina> btw, aleth-mac, do you feel like dogfooding the RCs? ;) 14:21:01 <aleth-mac> Why not? 14:21:02 <flo-retina> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/1.5-candidates/2013-12-17-03-instantbird/ 14:21:16 * flo-retina downloads the French one 14:24:16 --> florian has joined #instantbird 14:24:37 * florian is now known as IRCMonkey6801 14:25:39 <-- IRCMonkey6801 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:26:20 <flo-retina> restarting on 1.5 14:26:23 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:26:32 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:26:36 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 14:26:37 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 14:27:05 <flo-retina> I lost only one add-on :) 14:27:12 <flo-retina> aleth's Toggle Participant List 14:27:23 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 14:27:30 <flo-retina> I've never been able to actually decide if I like it or not. If frustrates me everyday, _but_ I miss it when I don't have it. 14:27:42 <aleth-mac> Why is the download 115M? unified builds? 14:27:42 <flo-retina> probably an indication that the problem exists, but the solution to it needs to be polished 14:27:52 <flo-retina> where did you get that? 14:27:59 <flo-retina> the download is 42MB 14:28:11 <flo-retina> or do you mean after unpacking? 14:28:35 <aleth-mac> Ah, you are right, the OSX dialog must have referred to after unpacking 14:29:19 <aleth-mac> Oh no, addon compatibility. The real fun in releasing. 14:29:48 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: intensive to include useful add-ons by default in the next release ;) 14:29:59 <aleth-mac> flo-retina: I agree about that add-on. If I thought the solution was good enough, it would have been a patch in a bug ;) 14:30:18 <aleth-mac> We discussed it a bit at the summit iirc. I should take another look. 14:30:26 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: my comment wasn't meant as criticism toward you 14:30:40 <aleth-mac> I didn't take it that way. 14:30:52 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: we discussed it at the summit, but that's when I installed the add-on, so I didn't know yet how much I would appreciate this proposed solution 14:30:58 <flo-retina> :) 14:31:39 <aleth-mac> Some of the ideas we brainstormed there seem worth trying. 14:33:08 <flo-retina> things seem reasonable for now 14:38:10 <flo-retina> http://i5.minus.com/iH2AedllPVZLq.png seems not very good 14:38:32 <flo-retina> is there anything after the "master password" line in the en-US version? 14:45:12 <aleth-mac> No, it seems like everything is present 14:45:21 <aleth-mac> Just the margin is too tight 14:45:45 <aleth-mac> (because the mot de passe explanation wraps two lines in French) 14:45:46 <flo-retina> or the wording of the previous line is too long, causing the text to wrap and take an additional line 14:46:01 <flo-retina> I think we could drop a word there to clean it up 14:47:37 <flo-retina> the ranking of the awesome tab is surprising again :( 14:48:16 <flo-retina> some people I've never talked to and who are offline are ranked above people I talk to ~once a week who are available :( 14:49:05 <flo-retina> I almost wonder if we shouldn't add an about:config switch to display in each item its score (and maybe even details of how it was computed in a tooltip) 14:49:10 <aleth-mac> Wasn't that a bug you noticed before but could not reproduce? 14:49:21 <flo-retina> maybe 14:49:25 <aleth-mac> That might help, yes (put the stats in a tooltip) 14:49:31 <flo-retina> last time it was with _one_ contact 14:49:38 <aleth-mac> If you close and reopen the awesometab, does it change? 14:49:41 <flo-retina> this time the order looks significantly messed up 14:50:12 <flo-retina> on the plus side: there's nobody I never talk to in the 20 first results :) 14:50:26 <flo-retina> so the ranking is mostly plausible 14:50:34 <flo-retina> I think it doesn't really get in the way of using the feature 14:50:40 <flo-retina> especially if you start typing to filter 14:51:04 <aleth-mac> Iirc you mentioned some strangeness with "offline people that have no logs" before, you should file a bug 14:51:23 <aleth-mac> Ask nhnt11 about it when he next shows up 14:51:30 <flo-retina> I think I'm almost more interested in the "add an about:config switch to display in each item its score (and maybe even details of how it was computed in a tooltip)" suggestion 14:52:15 <flo-retina> the only way to tweak the consts if we want to further improve the ordering in the next version is to see what causes the current ranking 14:52:30 <aleth-mac> In this case the score should be zero, what is interesting is the relative value and the impact of presence 14:53:00 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I agree showing "debug" information would be useful. 14:53:19 <flo-retina> :) 14:53:33 <flo-retina> so now we know what we can tell nhnt11 to work on the next time he asks ;) 14:55:04 * aleth-mac wonders why the blinking scrollbar is back 14:55:41 <aleth-mac> Now it's gone again 14:59:09 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 15:01:14 <clokep_work> And now he's gone again. ;) 15:02:00 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 15:02:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Btw my plan after release (besides helping w/ any BIO->BMO stuff I can) is to start updating us to m-c (or at least Moz 26/beta); and start fixing up our build system more so we can end up in c-c. 15:02:53 <flo-retina> clokep_work: my plan is also to get us on c-c ASAP once we are on BMO 15:05:07 <clokep_work> I think that's the same plan. :) 15:08:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so I was thinking about it yesterday evening 15:09:07 <flo-retina> I'm not sure if I want us to try and be compatible with m-c; or if we want to update to each of the 26, 27 and 28 version before 29. 15:09:10 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:20:38 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I'm unsure which to do either. :-/ I was more of thinking how the moz-build sutff needs to be done though. 15:20:43 <clokep_work> TO be compatible w/ the build system. 15:21:19 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:24:05 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 15:25:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: not sure of what you mean. Don't we just sync our build system with TB's if we go straight to m-c's version? 15:28:15 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We have to fix up instantbird/ at least to use that. I don't know what you mean by "sync"? 15:28:24 <clokep_work> I have a feeling we're saying the same thing and I'm being more explicit. 15:28:40 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I was thinking of just using a merge tool 15:28:59 <clokep_work> How can you merge something with something that doesn't exist? :-S 15:29:16 <flo-retina> and make files look as close as possible, without bothering about finding the c-c changesets that initially made the changes 15:29:31 <flo-retina> what doesn't exist? 15:29:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina: All the files inside of instantbird/! 15:30:05 <clokep_work> They don't exist in c-c. 15:30:09 <clokep_work> What would you merge them w/? 15:30:30 <flo-retina> instantbird/locales/Makefile.in with mail/locales/Makefile.in, etc... 15:32:12 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 15:32:36 <clokep_work> Oh. 15:32:40 <clokep_work> That might work. 15:32:53 <clokep_work> But we still have to do all the components and stuff separately. 15:32:56 <clokep_work> That'll be very different. 15:36:00 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 15:36:00 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 15:37:47 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 15:39:27 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 15:40:01 <nhnt11> Hi 15:40:23 <flo-retina> nhnt11: hello :) 15:40:39 <clokep_work> Florian found a bug for you to work on. ; 15:40:42 <nhnt11> So debug information 15:40:46 <nhnt11> Yeah I saw the logs 15:40:59 <flo-retina> :) 15:42:24 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Btw great paragraph so far, I made a couple of tweaks. :) 15:42:56 * aleth-mac would like to open #developers from the awesometab ;) 15:43:04 <aleth-mac> while we're making a wishlist :P 15:44:01 <nhnt11> clokep_work: Thanks 15:45:16 <clokep_work> Why can't you? :-S 15:45:30 <nhnt11> clokep_work: #developers is a hidden channel 15:45:47 <clokep_work> Oh. I see. 15:45:48 <aleth-mac> clokep_work: It's hidden, but I have logs for it, so it should appear. 15:45:54 <clokep_work> I didn't realize we didn't query the known stuff. 15:46:38 <aleth-mac> That, and getting rid of Join Chat, are probably the two biggest possible next steps 15:46:45 <clokep_work> :) 15:46:52 <clokep_work> Yes. 15:46:56 <clokep_work> The join chat dialogue. 15:47:12 <aleth-mac> But nhnt11 may have more ideas ;) 15:48:53 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Ping timeout) 15:51:14 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 15:55:44 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:01:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:08:13 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 16:25:28 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:26:14 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:50:42 <flo-retina> Even just answered my email, saying that apparently there are internet connection issues at his place :( 16:54:03 <clokep_work> :'( 17:00:54 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:05:56 * flo-retina is hearing people debating using Adium vs gmail for IM, and feels too lazy to try to convert them 17:06:54 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Just point it out, don't try too hard. :P 17:07:10 <flo-retina> they aren't talking to me, and aren't on the same table 17:07:55 <clokep_work> Oh. 17:07:59 <clokep_work> I thought you meant on your call. :) 17:08:33 <flo-retina> I also don't feel like explaining why we don't have file transfer, etc... 17:09:03 <flo-retina> wining Adium users is also not very exciting (they are already using free software...) 17:09:12 --> aleth-mac has joined #instantbird 17:09:15 <clokep_work> "Does it have file transfer?" "Do you really use file transfer?" :P 17:10:34 <aleth-mac> It appears the RC also runs fine on OSX 10.9.1, fwiw :) 17:19:12 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 17:19:14 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:22:42 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:38:48 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:39:54 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:41:14 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:46:38 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:00:46 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 18:02:12 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 18:02:15 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:13:45 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 18:13:45 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:17:30 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:18:49 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 18:24:21 <-- jb1 has quit (Quit: jb1) 18:24:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:24:45 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:25:46 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 18:25:54 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:28:21 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:30:40 <nhnt11> clokep_work: So what else do you think I need to add to the awesometab blog post other than the privacy stuff? 18:31:14 <nhnt11> I'm available for the next 30 minutes I think. Probably won't be online tomorrow :( 18:31:39 <nhnt11> Hmm, I think I'll try to work on that debug info stuff though. So I should be online for a while... 18:31:44 <nhnt11> (tomorrow though) 18:32:03 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I don't know, it gives the basics. 18:32:09 <clokep_work> A nice screenshot could be good. :-D 18:32:31 * nhnt11 doesn't like the idea of playing with Fake right now, too sleepy :P 18:32:39 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:32:55 <clokep_work> It doesn't have to be fake... 18:34:54 <nhnt11> Hmm, actually I think I'll go to bed now and get up early tomorrow. 18:34:56 <nhnt11> Good night. 18:35:52 <clokep_work> Haha. 18:35:54 <clokep_work> Goodnight. 18:36:00 <aleth-mac> nhnt11: I think the issue flo was experiencing was the edge case of contacts with no logs. 18:36:04 <aleth-mac> nhnt11: Good night :) 18:36:39 <flo-retina> mac rc at the "distribute" step again! :) 18:37:42 * flo-retina wonders if there's any reasonable way to build the Windows rc from his thinkpad 18:37:50 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:39:16 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:45:03 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:46:03 * aleth-mac wonders how tricky it would be to let Instantbird notice when a laptop goes to sleep and when it wakes up 18:47:04 <clokep_work> Why? 18:47:39 <aleth-mac> It ping timeouts, but when the laptop wakes up IB thinks it is still connected, and takes up to a minute or so to notice it needs to reconnect 18:49:03 <aleth-mac> Hmm, or maybe that's something that could be fixed in the ping code 18:49:58 <clokep_work> Or in Mozilla's network stack? ;) 18:51:48 <aleth-mac> Possibly... 18:52:08 <Mook_as> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindow.cpp#5701 should do the job too, if you want to be manual :p 18:52:37 <Mook_as> hrm. bleh, seems to be windows-specific :| 18:52:54 <aleth-mac> That's disappointing. 18:53:21 <Mook_as> hrm. there's cocoa code too, so mac? 18:58:14 <aleth-mac> Thanks, I'll keep the link :) 18:58:26 <-- aleth-mac has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:05:07 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:05:07 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:09:40 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:11:30 <clokep_work> aleth: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Observer_Notifications#Computer_sleep_and_wake 19:16:57 --> YH has joined #instantbird 19:16:59 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 19:18:43 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:20:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 19:21:40 <-- YH has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:38:03 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 20:11:45 <instant-buildbot> build #11 of macosx-release-1.5 is complete: Exception [6exception interrupted] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-release-1.5/builds/11 20:33:24 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 20:35:38 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:35:38 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 20:40:08 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:40:44 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:47:00 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:50:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:01:34 <flo-retina> another failed Mac RC... ;) 21:01:39 <flo-retina> Windows is building 21:04:00 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:04:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:35:46 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 21:37:29 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:55:15 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 22:00:35 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 22:07:50 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 22:20:57 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 22:40:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:41:53 <instant-buildbot> build #13 of macosx-release-1.5 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-release-1.5/builds/13 22:42:45 <flo-retina> pff 22:51:11 <flo-retina> I tried to finish it by hand, and rm'ed a file I shouldn't have :(. 22:51:24 <flo-retina> I've now restarted the whole build; that's safer. 22:51:42 <-- qlum has quit (Client exited) 22:51:44 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 22:51:49 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:55:06 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Quit: buildmaster reconfigured: bot disconnecting) 22:55:14 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 22:55:15 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 22:55:49 <flo-retina> I turned off nightlies to avoid having the RC rm'ed on the slave if the upload timeouts. 23:08:26 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:11:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:20:46 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:21:49 <-- dew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:22:14 --> dew has joined #instantbird 23:30:02 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:30:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:30:13 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 23:34:23 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 23:34:28 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:36:00 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:37:33 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:59:13 <-- hadi has quit (Connection reset by peer)