#instantbird log on 12 13 2013

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00:00:06 <flo-retina> between the scripts to scrap the files and meta data from the adium add-ons website, the script to extract all of them, then cleanup the content, file names (eg. the case!), packaging the XPI. Then generating all the screenshots. And finally the shell script using wget/curl to upload add-ons to AIO (we faked all the requests that would happen while a normal developer uploads an add-on to the site)
00:01:55 <clokep> I'm glad I wasn't around for this. :P
00:03:04 <flo-retina> we expected to do it too for emoticons
00:03:10 <flo-retina> but for some reason it never happened
00:04:42 <flo-retina> I think ignoring the existing libraries and making the HTTP requests ourselves shouldn't be too difficult
00:05:16 <flo-retina> we don't have that many requests to do: only creating bugs, adding attachments, adding comments, editing attachment flags, editing bug metadata.
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00:06:22 <flo-retina> I like that bzApi can use an existing session cookie to authentify a request; instead of requiring the user's password
00:06:37 <flo-retina> we may be able to perform the actions with the correct user accounts for the relevant people.
00:06:54 <clokep> :)
00:06:57 <clokep> That would be ideal.
00:07:03 <flo-retina> I don't think any of the libraries is designed to handle that kind of craziness though ;)
00:07:21 <flo-retina> not sure how many users we care about faking correctly
00:07:45 <flo-retina> I would expect that to be at least people doing reviews and our gsoc students.
00:07:53 <clokep> My plan was to send stuff to the mailing list and see who responds.
00:08:05 <flo-retina> significant contributors too, but I suspect most of them are already included in the sets of people I mentioned before
00:08:19 <clokep> + bug those we care about.
00:08:23 <flo-retina> sure, we can offer it to whoever cares
00:08:38 <flo-retina> I was mostly wondering about who we would hold the migration for ;)
00:08:54 <flo-retina> for the long tail we will just blame instantbot I guess...
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00:12:01 <flo-retina> I guess we could also create "fake" accounts for them... but that may be overkill
00:12:39 <flo-retina> we may want to have our script sleep a second or two between each BMO request (to avoid having a visible performance impact on the servers)
00:13:08 <flo-retina> I wouldn't want someone to block our IP in the middle of the import because of suspected spam
00:13:24 <clokep> The BMO guys asked us to give them a heads up also btw.
00:13:46 <flo-retina> we totally should do it; even if they didn't ask
00:14:03 <clokep> (My point was the ymight be able to block our IP from being blocked? :))
00:14:23 <flo-retina> sure
00:14:29 <flo-retina> mine was: I don't want us to cause any trouble for others
00:14:50 <flo-retina> I don't mind if people manage to file 2 or 3 bugs in the middle of ours
00:15:28 <flo-retina> (although having consecutive bug numbers would make the bug mapping easier of course ;))
00:15:32 <clokep> :)
00:15:36 <clokep> It probably won't happen.
00:16:23 <flo-retina> so I think it would be good if we could like at this a bit more seriously this week-end, to make a solid plan
00:16:34 <flo-retina> so that we can then communicate to the BMO guys, and tell them what we need
00:16:52 <clokep> OK. :)
00:16:55 <clokep> Sounds like a plan.
00:17:05 <clokep> I'll set aside a few hours on that Monday to work on stuff.
00:18:37 <flo-retina> I may do most of the work myself; but I think it would be very useful to have someone to sanity check what I'm doing. And in case some stuff goes wrong when we actually do it, being more than one to fix it may be useful too
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00:25:02 <blackeagle573> hello
00:26:21 <clokep> Hello.
00:26:40 <clokep> flo-retina: That works for me. :-/ SOrry I was nver able to complete this stuff. :-[
00:27:45 <flo-retina> That's ok, it should have been a team effort from the beginning ;)
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03:16:38 <clokep> The Facebook XMPP server is so shitty.
03:19:53 <EionRobb> yes :(
03:20:05 <EionRobb> they've been promising for years to fix it up
03:20:08 <clokep> People stay online FOREVER on it, when I know they're offline.
03:20:14 <clokep> And mobile status doesn't work still. :-/
03:20:18 <clokep> Which is kind of important for Facebook.
03:20:33 <EionRobb> I have one buddy that always appears offline until he sends a message then its online-message-offline
03:20:55 * clokep sighs.
03:20:57 <EionRobb> I'm thinking about picking up the old http-based prpl
03:21:11 <clokep> What about their API? have you looked into it?
03:21:47 <EionRobb> last time I looked at it, it was only really suitable as a server-side thing
03:22:30 <clokep> Ah, OK.
03:22:39 <clokep> I just try to stay away from anything that has the word "oauth" in it. :)
03:22:50 <EionRobb> yeah :)
03:23:07 <clokep> Doesn't libpurple have decent HTTP APIs now?
03:23:23 <EionRobb> I tried augmenting their xmpp offerings with fbapi stuff.. but it's still pretty shitty
03:23:46 <EionRobb> supposedly the http apis are much better in 3.0.0, but I haven't tried them
03:24:16 <clokep> I just remember seeing stuff on the mailing list.
03:24:52 <clokep> I don't want to think about the amount of changes we'll need for that.
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03:48:26 <douglaswth> I stopped connecting to facebook XMPP because they stopped supporting app passwords and 2 factor by changing what password you log in with
03:49:29 <clokep> :-/
04:11:40 <instant-buildbot> build #1050 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1050
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04:26:23 <instant-buildbot> build #1375 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1375
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06:43:51 <instant-buildbot> build #1193 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1193
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09:41:36 * Mic just closed a newly joined channel because there was the parted-icon and no participants in the list :(
09:42:17 <Mic> Seems like the open-conv-tab-earlier-idea backfired in this case :(
09:44:11 <Mic> Is it intention that the join command uses commas as separators while the invite commands uses spaces?
09:44:15 <Mic> *intentional
09:44:29 <Mic> clokep, aleth: ^
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10:52:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2281 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
10:52:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2281 nor, --, 1.5, nobody, NEW, Localization update (de) for Instantbird 1.5
10:56:45 <flo-retina> Mic: want me to forward your password to you?
10:57:12 <Mic> If you can forward/change it easily then yes, please!
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10:57:32 <flo-retina> Mic: done
10:57:37 <Mic> Thanks!
11:04:49 <Mic> hmm, shouldn't I get an email with a link to a language pack after pushing?
11:05:33 <flo-retina> yes
11:05:45 <flo-retina> 2-5 minutes after pushing
11:06:07 <flo-retina> buildbot is still working on it: http://buildbot-l10n.instantbird.org/waterfall
11:06:38 <flo-retina> done
11:08:03 <flo-retina> 2 obsolete strings to remove
11:12:00 <Mic> :(
11:13:58 <Mic> Got the email now, thanks for the help! :)
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11:33:44 <clokep> Mic: That's weird.
11:34:00 <Mic> clokep: hmm?
11:34:08 <clokep> 6:33:52 AM - invite <nick>[ <nick>]* [<channel>]: Invite one or more nicks to join you in the current channel, or to join the specified channel.
11:34:08 <clokep> 6:33:59 AM - join <room1>[ <key1>][,<room2>[ <key2>]]*: Enter one or more channels, optionally providing a channel key for each if needed.
11:36:43 <flo-retina> clokep: what's weird? (apart from being on IRC at 6am of course ;))
11:37:02 <clokep> One is comma separate, one is space separated.
11:37:13 <clokep> It's 6:35 for your information!
11:37:45 <aleth-mac> clokep: I think that was for compatibility with the autojoin stuff
11:37:56 <clokep> Probably.
11:38:58 <Mic> op/deop/voice/... is all comma separated.
11:40:12 <Mic> Maybe we should match the style after the release...
11:41:27 <flo-retina> clokep: 6:35 counts as 6am! (ie. middle of the night ;))
11:41:58 <clokep> Mic: Half of those we inherited from libpurple, don't forget. :)
11:42:01 <Mic> I need to go, have a nice day!
11:42:10 <aleth-mac> 6am doesn't usually exist unless you have to catch a plane or something ;)
11:42:18 <flo-retina> we could make all these coma optional I guess
11:42:31 <flo-retina> aleth-mac: exactly!
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11:44:33 <clokep> I catch planes AT 6am.
11:44:38 <clokep> So that becomes 3:30am.
11:44:54 <aleth-mac> Yeah... that also happens.
11:45:03 <clokep> flo-retina: Yeah, my guess is we should split on /[,\s]+/ or something
11:45:27 <flo-retina> yeah
11:46:11 <clokep> (but not say that in the help message :))
11:49:32 <flo-retina> sure
11:49:50 <flo-retina> we would just accept the , for backward compat, but not suggest them
11:50:21 <clokep> Oh wait.
11:50:27 <clokep> I know why we do that in the join command.
11:50:36 <clokep> Spaces separate channels from passwords.
11:51:03 <clokep> So that's why that command is different.
11:51:21 <clokep> It matches the auto-join stuff, as aleth-mac suggested.
11:51:26 <clokep> (Yay for good tab complete! :-D)
11:52:22 <flo-retina> clokep: it does
11:52:53 <flo-retina> I was talking about the commands that take commas for no reason (deop, etc...)
11:53:36 <flo-retina> I don't really see the point of joining several channels at once btw
11:54:05 <clokep> I think you were the one who asked for that. ;)
11:54:14 <flo-retina> really?
11:54:30 <flo-retina> I remember asking several times for the 'invite several people to one channel" thing
11:54:40 <flo-retina> but joining several channels, I don't see the point
11:54:55 <flo-retina> I would much rather have that command focus the channel after opening the tab (and we can focus only one tab)
11:56:10 <clokep> We would focus the first one?
11:56:18 <flo-retina> yeah
11:56:24 <flo-retina> the first or last one; it doesn't matter
11:56:38 <flo-retina> (as in most case there would only be one anyway ;))
11:57:08 <clokep> Can we go with the highest prime number?
11:57:28 <flo-retina> that seems fair! :)
11:57:33 <flo-retina> r+ :-P
11:57:56 <clokep> Still usually the first one. ;)
11:58:03 <flo-retina> (assuming you do all the work to redesign the commands API to not suck, I would let you play with prime numbers as an easter egg :-P)
12:01:38 <clokep> Getting it to take partial commands wasn't enough? You want more?
12:02:16 <aleth> Seeing that tooltip size bug every day on Linux now :(
12:02:25 <flo-retina> I would also like to know why /ba doesn't work
12:02:47 <flo-retina> I get "13:02:27 - /ba is not a supported command. Type /help to see the list of commands." even though /ba<tab> completes to /back which works.
12:03:18 <flo-retina> aleth: put the review request on the patch again?
12:03:25 <clokep> flo-retina: Did you ever file a bug?
12:03:30 <flo-retina> no :(
12:03:57 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 3048 on bug 2113.
12:03:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2113 nor, --, 1.5, florian, REOP, Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes
12:05:45 <flo-retina> clokep: there you go!
12:05:49 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 2282 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
12:05:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2282 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, /ba is not a supported command.
12:06:17 <clokep> Thansk
12:06:31 <flo-retina> np
12:07:11 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 3048 on bug 2113.
12:07:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2113 nor, --, 1.5, florian, REOP, Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes
12:07:34 <aleth> Thanks
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14:05:30 <qheaden> Hello.
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14:22:05 <clokep_work> Hello qheaden.
14:22:10 <clokep_work> You on break now? :)
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15:10:28 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 2283 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
15:10:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this._account is undefined on Connection reset
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16:54:54 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 3118 on bug 2276.
16:54:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2276 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Don't keep conversation stats if logging is turned off
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17:06:46 <flo-retina> aleth: do we care about log_chats?
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17:08:25 <aleth-mac> log_chats is always set to log_ims by the Preferences code
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17:11:21 <flo-retina> ah, that's done by the UI
17:11:29 <flo-retina> I guess that's enough for us to not care about it
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17:12:11 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 3118 on bug 2276.
17:12:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2276 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Don't keep conversation stats if logging is turned off
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17:14:33 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 3119 on bug 2283.
17:14:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, this._account is undefined on Connection reset
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17:42:46 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 3119 on bug 2283.
17:42:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, this._account is undefined on Connection reset
17:43:46 <aleth> clokep_work: Isn't that more confusing? The comment only applies if the if clause is true
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17:45:29 <clokep_work> aleth: So reword the comment. ;)
17:45:48 <aleth> Very well ;)
17:45:56 <clokep_work> aleth: "If the account was already disconnected, e.g. in response to onConnectionReset, do nothing."
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17:57:58 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 3120 on bug 2283.
17:57:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, this._account is undefined on Connection reset
18:04:53 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 3120 on bug 2283.
18:04:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, this._account is undefined on Connection reset
18:05:07 <aleth-mac1> Thanks!
18:05:55 <clokep_work> No, thank you! :)
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21:08:03 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2113 to FIXED.
21:08:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2113 nor, --, 1.5, florian, RESO FIXED, Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes
21:08:23 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2276 to FIXED.
21:08:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2276 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Don't keep conversation stats if logging is turned off
21:08:34 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2283 to FIXED.
21:08:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2283 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, this._account is undefined on Connection reset
21:10:15 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/027b2bfed093 - aleth - Bug 2283 - this._account is undefined on connection reset, r=clokep.
21:10:17 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/cb330fcc9f73 - aleth - Bug 2113 - Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes, r=fqueze.
21:10:18 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/c0f19579a698 - aleth - Bug 2276 - Don't keep conversation stats if logging is turned off, r=fqueze.
21:10:37 * clokep still hda to fix all those commit messages. :(
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21:41:46 <flo-retina> clokep: but you didn't have to type the author ;)
21:43:43 <clokep> flo-retina: I do actually because I have my qref set up to switch the author to me. ;)
21:44:07 <flo-retina> why do you need mq to do checkins? :-S
21:44:21 <clokep> Usually I mq and qref.
21:44:27 <clokep> I qimport and qref.
21:44:31 <clokep> And then qfin.
21:44:50 <clokep> Can you import and change the message?
21:47:21 <flo-retina> hg import -m "new message"
21:47:46 <clokep> Yeah I don't even do that.
21:47:53 <clokep> I never said I do it the easy way. :P
21:51:14 <flo-retina> the commit message for http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/cb330fcc9f73 could have been a bit more descriptive
21:51:23 <flo-retina> doesn't really matter though :)
21:52:45 <clokep> Sorry. :-/
21:53:28 <flo-retina> thanks for doing the check-ins :)
21:53:38 <clokep> You're welcome.
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23:39:14 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2281 to FIXED.
23:39:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2281 nor, --, 1.5, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Localization update (de) for Instantbird 1.5
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