#instantbird log on 12 08 2013

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00:15:47 <blackeagle573> Hello, what's going on?
00:16:11 <blackeagle573> hello
00:16:20 <clokep> Hello.
00:17:47 <blackeagle573> I was wondering if I could import Miranda im profiles into Instantbird.
00:18:34 <clokep> No, not yet.
00:18:54 <clokep> We have some code to import from other IM clients (from a student last year), but it isn't in Instantbird yet.
00:19:14 <blackeagle573> Thanks, just wondering.
00:19:25 <blackeagle573> That will be a useful feature.
00:19:44 <clokep> I agree. :)
00:20:42 <blackeagle573> I was also wondering, what the major difference between Instantbird and Pidgin is, considering they both have mozilla code implemented.
00:21:00 <clokep> "they both have mozilla code implemented"? What?
00:21:07 <clokep> Pidgin uses GTK as a toolkit.
00:21:46 <clokep> I'd suggest reading http://instantbird.org/ for a bit about why we made Instantbird.
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00:22:18 <blackeagle573> Right, but I thought Mozilla also had a hand in Pidgin development. I guess I was wrong.
00:22:34 <clokep> Not that I've ever heard of.
00:22:46 <blackeagle573> alright
00:23:48 * clokep isn't sure if that actually answered the question or not though. :)
00:24:58 <blackeagle573> That's ok, I can always research that.
00:25:51 <clokep> I'm unsure if you're asking for the technical differences, the organization differences, the philosophical...etc. :-D
00:28:09 <blackeagle573> I was primarily wondering about the technical differences. I noticed that pidgin is still ahead in some aspects like sending and receiving files.
00:28:51 <blackeagle573> I can't wait for that to be implemented. It'll be great, especially for IRC.
00:29:26 <clokep> We'd like it...we'd really like there to be a fallback though so when it doesn't work over the IM network (which is pretty frequent) then it can transfer it via HTTP or something (kind of like Thunderbird's FileLink feature if you're familiar.)
00:30:02 <blackeagle573> Yes, I am familiar with Thunderbird, I use it as my primary email client.
00:30:07 <blackeagle573> It's the best one out there.
00:30:27 <blackeagle573> I can't imagine using crap like Microsoft Outlook.
00:30:42 <clokep> OK.
00:30:47 <blackeagle573> that's overrated and loaded with features I don't see myself using.
00:31:46 <flo-retina> http://blog.instantbird.org/2011/07/why-should-i-switch-from-pidgin/ may be relevant here
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04:12:17 <instant-buildbot> build #1045 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1045
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05:17:36 <instant-buildbot> build #1182 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1182
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12:44:34 <flo-retina> I don't understand how one is expected to build TB 24 on Windows :(
12:44:49 <flo-retina> both gmake and pymake cause configure to insult me :-/
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14:55:40 <flo-retina> Windows also has that interesting tendency of automatically restarting into Ubuntu to "install updates" :(
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15:05:07 <flo-thinkpad> clokep: any idea of what I could be doing wrong? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/471243
15:05:18 <clokep> Besides using Windows? ;)
15:05:53 <clokep> flo-thinkpad: I do not know. :-/
15:06:53 <clokep> I've never seen that error no.
15:07:35 <flo-thinkpad> "using Windows?" I had already noticed that mistake; thanks ;)
15:14:41 <flo-thinkpad> bah... the default TB mozconfig is so broken for other build machines :(
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16:29:02 <flo-thinkpad> hmm, my build failed inside purplexpcom
17:01:12 <flo-retina> my build fails because of http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8fa11e4d1382
17:01:17 <flo-retina> and the fix is a chat change :'(
17:02:03 <flo-retina> looks like moz26 will be released Tuesday :(.
17:02:20 <flo-retina> if we release on moz25 at the end of next week we will release something outdated :(
17:02:41 <clokep> Yeah. :-/
17:04:17 <flo-retina> hmm, that build failure is stupid. The C++ code doesn't even use that define :-S
17:04:18 <instantbot> c++ sucks
17:04:47 * flo-retina comments out the lines in the .h file
17:05:35 <clokep> I'm confused what you're trying to do. ;)
17:08:04 <flo-retina> build the TB add-on on Windows on my own machine, as https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=9e91840a0247 failed on Windows only for a reason that seems stupid, but that I don't control
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17:32:54 <flo-retina> The first start screen of TB offers to create an account for email (icon = envelop), IM (icon = 3 bubbles), newsgroup (icon = 2 bubbles), rss (icon = rss)
17:33:10 <flo-retina> I find the 2 vs 3 bubbles difference between IM and newsgroups quite confusing ;)
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17:38:38 <flo-retina> is MSN dead?
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17:52:15 <clokep> flo-retina: I'm onnectd.
17:52:44 <flo-retina> I can't connect to it from TB
17:52:58 <flo-retina> but I can't do it from my debug Ib build either
17:53:41 <flo-retina> btw, http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/thunderbird-addon/2.10.7/purplexpcom-tb24-windows.xpi seems to work!
17:56:19 <clokep> :)
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18:09:25 <flo-retina> I think http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/thunderbird-addon/2.10.7/ is ready for another test!
18:12:50 <flo-retina> I tested on Mac and Windows with an AMI account; seemed OK! :)
18:15:58 <instant-buildbot> build #1320 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1320
18:17:16 <flo-retina> ah, finally!
18:19:40 <flo-retina> I emailed the link to the tb-addon build to 3 guys who emailed me before to ask about when it would be available
18:19:47 <flo-retina> I hope at least one of them will do some testing
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18:31:07 <hadi> can instantbird be used as a SSH client? ...
18:32:53 <clokep> No.
18:33:09 <clokep> (I mean you could probably write a protocol to do it, but ...)
18:33:21 <clokep> flo-retina: Yay! :) Hopefully you can get it approved now. :p
18:33:29 <clokep> So did you want to try to upgrade to Moz 26? I tink that's risky.
18:33:42 <flo-retina> you mean I can upload it, so that it will be uploaded maybe around Christmas? ;)
18:34:03 <clokep> Yay Christmas! :)
18:34:07 <flo-retina> clokep: well, we need to do it. But I don't think doing it for 1.5 is realistic
18:34:15 <flo-retina> s/uploaded/approved/
18:34:28 <clokep> I agree!
18:34:43 <flo-retina> that just sucks :-/
18:34:53 <flo-retina> yet another reason to adopt a train model ;)
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18:40:46 <clokep> Yes. :( I agree.
18:40:48 <clokep> Let's do it.
18:46:55 <flo-retina> after the release, we need to start discussing more seriously the BIO merge
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18:55:41 <clokep> Yes.
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