#instantbird log on 12 07 2013

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02:20:25 <blackeagle573> Hello, I just installed Instantbird a few days ago and used Miranda im. Is there a way to import that profile?
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03:24:48 <instant-buildbot> build #1295 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed hg_1]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1295
04:23:15 <instant-buildbot> build #1044 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1044
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08:24:16 <nhnt11> Hi
08:24:53 <hadi> nhnt11: helo :)
08:24:56 <nhnt11> I think this message has a few unnecessary capitalizations: http://puu.sh/5EKGx.png
08:25:14 <nhnt11> I'm not sure who handles the English l10n...
08:25:19 <nhnt11> Hi hadi
08:25:30 <nhnt11> I haven't seen you hear before :)
08:26:05 <hadi> nhnt11: ..well new instantbird user i am~
08:26:31 <nhnt11> Great. How do you like it so far
08:26:33 <nhnt11> ?
08:28:44 <hadi> amazing. dam life on irc became totally easier with this app. i can literally join 10 irc rooms now and minimize it to the bottom right so it wouldn't accidentally open  when i switch applications with keyboard
08:29:28 <hadi> plus  simple and best output window ever~
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10:17:06 <instant-buildbot> build #1296 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed hg_1]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1296
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12:03:50 <flo-retina> pfff, buildbot on the mac slave has been in the mood of rm -rf'ing the mozilla repository again :(
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12:05:32 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I think that message is fine. It's common for software in American English to capitalize the first letter of the important words. (Firefox does it). The French locale doesn't do it.
12:27:08 <Tonnes> ..which is a nasty habit IMO (capitalization)
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13:50:18 <Tonnes> flo-retina: hi, aren't there any upcoming web page changes (to localize) yet?
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13:58:23 <clokep> nhnt11: I think generally anyone on the team handles English l10n.
13:58:27 <clokep> Since that isn't l10n. :-D
13:58:55 <clokep> Tonnes: Do you mean like release notes and such?
13:59:04 <clokep> We need to do those still. :-/
13:59:14 <clokep> Maybe I'll start working on that once I eat breakfast.
14:01:23 <Tonnes> clokep: yes, oh very well.. have a good one ;)
14:05:25 <clokep> Tonnes: We will have them....we're just running a bit crunched and wanted to release before Christmas (which would push us back another month, practically). :(
14:05:28 <clokep> I know we suck at this.
14:06:43 <Tonnes> clokep: no rush.. just asking as I was afraid they were located somewhere else now
14:07:33 <clokep> Nope. :) You didn't miss them.
14:08:10 <clokep> Is nl done already? ;)
14:08:28 <Tonnes> 1 minute ago :)
14:09:18 <clokep> Awesome! Thanks for the effort. :)
14:09:31 <Tonnes> I did see 2 error messages on update-website-l10n.sh showlog but guess that's ok?
14:10:10 <Tonnes> oh forget the showlog / no prob
14:15:16 <clokep> If you're unsure, ask questions...I unfortunately probably don't know. :-/
14:18:25 <flo-retina> but I'm not too far away ;)
14:20:36 <clokep> flo-retina: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5 lists two things that I don't think are happening, the upgrade to the linux 32-bit buildbot and creating a 64-bit buildbot, besides that do we just have the blinking scrollbar thing?
14:22:56 <flo-retina> I may still try poking at the gio thing if I find enough motivation
14:23:21 * clokep grabs his wand and bestows motivation unto Florian the Bugslayer.
14:23:34 <clokep> (I mean geeks can do magic, right?)
14:23:39 <flo-retina> the scrollbar thing is more or less already handled; I just need to add a comment I guess
14:23:48 <flo-retina> bug 2232 is really left though
14:23:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2232 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Only remember on-hold state for autojoined conversations
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14:42:25 <instantbird> .nick Tonnes2
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14:42:42 <clokep> (o_O)
14:42:51 <Tonnes> slashes do care
14:42:51 <clokep> Who's playing with Instantbird?!
14:42:56 <Tonnes> me
14:42:58 <clokep> Haha, yes.
14:43:04 <Tonnes> :)
14:47:52 <Tonnes> Hmm I had set Tonnes2 for the Alias in IB's irc General settings (1st tab in properties), shouldn't IB join the channel with that name then?
14:48:12 <clokep> No.
14:48:15 <clokep> That's a local alias.
14:48:26 <Tonnes> Argh.. of course
14:48:36 * clokep hates that field.
14:48:49 <Tonnes> confusing allright
14:48:52 <clokep> There's currently no way to change your nick w/o creating a new account (or using an extension).
14:50:21 <Tonnes> clear..
14:50:49 <Tonnes> how about a Nickname field, like in chatzilla?
14:51:19 <clokep> You fill that in when you create the account.
14:51:35 <clokep> I think the 'best' way to do it would be to support renaming acounts.
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14:53:06 <Tonnes> yes, probably
14:55:28 <Tonnes> gotta head for shopping, c u later1 ;)
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15:23:13 <nhnt11> flo-retina: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/131207/#m73 Really? Never seen that before
15:23:57 <nhnt11> At least the words "Edit" and "Settings" look wrong imo.
15:24:00 * nhnt11 shrugs
15:25:04 <clokep> nhnt11: It's because they refer to buttons / menu items.
15:25:19 <nhnt11> I was just about to mention that
15:25:27 <nhnt11> I realized it looks wrong to me because I'm on Mac
15:25:31 <nhnt11> I don't have an edit menu
15:25:36 <nhnt11> and there's no "Settings" item :P
15:26:44 <clokep> OK.
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16:07:36 <dionisos> Hi !
16:08:14 <clokep> Hello.
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16:19:09 <dionisos> is it possible to save chat in the roster, like contact ?
16:20:32 <dionisos> for not having to click "join chat", and enter all the things all the time.
16:24:28 <flo-retina> dionisos: not directly possible. But once Instantbird 1.5 is released, you should be able to use the new awesome tab feature to join chats quickly.
16:24:36 <flo-retina> it should at least work for IRC channels.
16:25:09 <clokep> If they're chats you always join you should add them to your auto-join list. :)
16:27:40 <dionisos> thanks, i do the "auto-join list", but i don’t find this suitable in some cases, also it does not work when chats with password.
16:28:25 <flo-retina> for IRC channels with passwords, I tend to prefer typing "/j #channel password" that's faster (for me at least) than opening the join chat dialog
16:28:52 <clokep> dionisos: For IRC You can put the channel name followed by a space than the password.
16:29:08 <dionisos> it’s for jabber channels.
16:30:03 <dionisos> is there a reason this functionality doesn’t exist in instantbird ?
16:30:18 <clokep> Because it doesn't really make sense to add chatrooms to the buddy list.
16:31:22 <clokep> If they're MUCs you want to join every time...hopefully we'll add support for auto-joining those soon when we do session restoring...which some people are interested in. :)
16:32:39 <dionisos> i had forgotten what mean MUCs
16:37:13 <dionisos> When you said it’s doesn’t make sense, it’s because the name of the list is "buddy list"? could this be adapted in another list ? (a "chatrooms list" or whatever).
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16:39:19 <flo-retina> dionisos: it doesn't make sense because the point of adding items to that list is to track the status/presence of these items
16:39:19 <dionisos> I find it’s a really useful functionality when you don’t want to auto-join chats, but frequently join the chats.
16:39:31 <flo-retina> the efficient way to start conversations is the new awesometab
16:39:45 <flo-retina> and I guess it still needs some improvements (as I don't think it handles XMPP MUCs yet)
16:40:14 <clokep> It doesn't handle anything libpurple.
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16:44:06 <dionisos> ok
16:44:27 <dionisos> thanks i will look awesometab
16:45:14 <dionisos> But there are no simple extension with the only goal to save chatroom ?
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17:59:32 <clokep> I put a outline of the release announcement on https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5
17:59:36 <clokep> Be awesome if someone took a whack at that.
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