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00:01:03 <-- IRCMonkey29230 has quit (Ping timeout) 00:01:10 --> florian has joined #instantbird 00:01:31 * florian is now known as IRCMonkey33010 00:09:37 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:25:04 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org set the Resolution field on bug 2254 to FIXED. 00:25:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2254 enh, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Open conversations when joinChat is called for better responsiveness 00:27:37 <clokep> aleth++++++++++++ 00:27:44 <clokep> He has the last like 8 patches! 00:33:58 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/356bd889969c - aleth - Bug 2254 - Open conversations when joinChat is called for better responsiveness, r=clokep. 01:50:00 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 01:59:24 <clokep> For those of you who are interested, I wrote one of those posts on GSoC: http://clokep.blogspot.com/2013/12/gsoc-lessons-part-1-application-period.html 02:01:11 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 02:30:16 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:31:23 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 02:31:27 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 02:31:27 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 03:30:22 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 03:34:30 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:15:20 <instant-buildbot> build #1040 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1040 05:00:59 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 05:10:26 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 05:12:37 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:31:55 <-- IRCMonkey33010 has quit (Ping timeout) 05:32:42 --> florian has joined #instantbird 05:33:07 * florian is now known as IRCMonkey56697 05:49:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:58:19 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 06:31:58 <-- IRCMonkey56697 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:32:04 --> florian has joined #instantbird 06:32:28 * florian is now known as IRCMonkey9149 06:42:57 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:50:41 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:05:06 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:33:53 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 07:54:55 <instant-buildbot> build #1177 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1177 08:00:47 <instant-buildbot> build #1279 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1279 08:30:04 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 08:50:27 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 08:52:04 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:15:00 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:16:09 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 09:21:50 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 09:33:19 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:33:22 <-- IRCMonkey9149 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:36:28 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:49:40 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 10:36:28 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 11:05:21 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:05:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:09:29 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 11:28:45 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:32:38 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:33:36 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:59:16 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 12:00:35 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 12:00:35 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:02:00 <flo-retina> clokep: great post! 12:03:56 <flo-retina> I would be curious to have more context for "Even after being part of the community, I find that GSoC students are often very unwilling to publicly share code unless it's "perfect"". Do you mean "after being part of the community, *during their first weeks as GSoC students* , they often unwilling to share their code" or "ever after being part of the community and doing GSoC (ie. after GSoC is over), students are unwilling to share WIPs" 12:04:35 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:13:30 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:16:57 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:24:33 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:43:41 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:44:33 * clokep is now known as clokep_ 12:54:12 <clokep_> Thanks for the feedback flo-retina. :) 13:04:03 <flo-retina> today is a resweep day. So I saw the notification bar for the first time: http://i1.minus.com/ipdrOVpfgBflk.png 13:05:58 <flo-retina> there seem to be some vertical alignment problem 13:06:05 <flo-retina> maybe due to hiding the icon. 13:06:48 <flo-retina> it also feels a bit wrong that at some point the notification bar disappears, and then one or two seconds later the order of the items changes 13:07:06 <flo-retina> I would expect the ranking to be stable once the notification bar is gone 13:16:20 <clokep_> I agree. 13:18:13 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:30:15 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:33:40 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:36:22 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:31:34 --> ecmuller has joined #instantbird 14:33:18 <ecmuller> Is there any plans to change the google talk icons to the hangouts icon 14:34:35 <ecmuller> It'd be easier to tell the difference between online and offline at a glance. The Google Talk icon is hard to tell if it's greyed out or not 14:34:53 <clokep_> We grey out icons? :-S 14:35:08 <clokep_> ecmuller: I hadn't thought about changing it, not sure if anyone else has. 14:35:18 <clokep_> I couldn't even tell you what the hangouts icon looks like. ;) 14:35:29 <ecmuller> Like if you have a conversation on hold 14:35:50 <ecmuller> and the person isn't online 14:35:56 <clokep_> Isn't there a little gray dot? 14:36:04 <clokep_> Or a little green / red dot, depending on the status? 14:36:07 <ecmuller> There is a grey dot, but also the protocol icon 14:36:24 <clokep_> So you're saying it's hard to say the gray dot on that icon or that the icon itself is gray? :-S 14:36:37 <ecmuller> the icon itself 14:37:04 <ecmuller> The talk icon is white mostly 14:37:39 <ecmuller> the facebook icon is blue, so when it's offline it's a pale greyish blue, but online it's quite bold 14:37:49 <ecmuller> the hangouts icon is basically bright green 14:38:33 <clokep_> Oh, maybe we reduce the opacity. 14:39:01 <clokep_> Hmm...well...we'd need an open source compatible version of the icon and someone to put it into the right sizes. 14:39:12 <ecmuller> There isn't a green dot for online, just the protocol icon 14:39:25 * clokep_ wonders if they use the GTalk icon at all anymore. 14:40:00 <ecmuller> So going from light with a grey dot to a mostly white icon isn't easy to see the difference quickly 14:40:09 <ecmuller> Google doesn't use the icon anymore 14:40:23 <ecmuller> They rolled it into hangouts 14:41:35 <clokep_> I know they half merged Talk into Hangouts. 14:42:03 <flo-retina> ecmuller: so what are you actually trying to see? 14:42:31 * flo-retina didn't know the status of conversations on hold was important 14:42:49 <ecmuller> It's not important really 14:43:27 <ecmuller> There's a handful of people that flip on and off throughout the day that I talk to 14:44:09 <ecmuller> I just noticed that other protocol icons stand out more than the google talk icon when they are online 14:44:15 <clokep_> ecmuller: Don't think we're trying to just be difficult please, just trying to understand the actual problem! :) If it's an issue for you w/ one icon..maybe it's an issue for others w/ different icons and we shouldn't be using that method to show you status... 14:44:28 <clokep_> We're trying to understand the problem at the core. 14:44:54 <ecmuller> It could be an issue with any light coloured protocol icon 14:45:19 <flo-retina> I don't remember trying to show anything there with the opacity change 14:45:22 <ecmuller> I suppose it would be a problem with the irc icon as well for example, but that's handled entirely differently 14:45:34 <flo-retina> so it may be by accident if we change the opacity there 14:46:23 <ecmuller> Well, offline is low-opacity with the grey ball, online is full opacity, with either nothing, or mobile, or the red ball 14:47:17 <ecmuller> the online and available isn't as easy to spot vs. offline 14:49:05 <flo-retina> so maybe we want to put the green dot for available contacts? And/or stop the low-opacity icon for "offline". 14:49:22 <ecmuller> I like the lowered opacity actually 14:49:39 <ecmuller> a green dot may help 14:50:54 <ecmuller> Perhaps swapping the position of the status and protocol icon? 14:51:42 <ecmuller> I mostly like the current behaviour 14:53:31 <ecmuller> This isn't really a big issue for me either, it's just something that suddenly struck me 14:57:09 <flo-retina> ecmuller: "Perhaps swapping the position of the status and protocol icon?" a smaller protocol icon wouldn't really be visible 14:57:22 <ecmuller> true enough 14:57:48 <ecmuller> pidgin did something like that, I haven't used it in quite a while though so I can't really recall how it looked 14:58:00 <ecmuller> I remember it being sort of controversial 14:58:37 <clokep_> I wouldn't really look to Pidgin for UI guidance. :-D 14:58:54 <clokep_> I think adding the green dot would make it clearer... 14:59:05 <ecmuller> lol 14:59:17 <clokep_> I'd guess we reduce opacity of offline contacts...but most of us probably don't view offline contacts at all in our contact list... 15:01:50 <ecmuller> It's mostly being able to tell from my perhiphery if someone came online 15:02:27 <ecmuller> I kind of use the conversations on hold to do that, I otherwise have them hidden 15:02:42 <ecmuller> if there's someone I'm waiting to show up for some reaon 15:03:15 <clokep_> Sounds like you want buddy pounces. 15:03:31 <ecmuller> I have used those 15:04:17 --> dew1 has joined #instantbird 15:04:57 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:06:01 <ecmuller> It's not that I want to talk to them every time they sign on, it's just a group of people that are on and off all day, and at some points I might have something to contact them for 15:07:01 <ecmuller> I suppose I could look to see if they are on at that time, or set up a pounce then. Having the conversation on hold is just a quick list that lets me determine that at a glance 15:07:57 <clokep_> Got it. 15:08:26 <ecmuller> When someone using the facebook chat signs on it's easy to tell even without looking directly at it that a status has changed 15:08:51 <ecmuller> then I can glance over and see who it is 15:09:04 <ecmuller> with google talk it's less clear 15:09:54 <flo-retina> would showing a popup notification whenever someone in a specific group becomes online help? 15:10:16 <ecmuller> That'd be kind of annoying 15:10:36 <flo-retina> do you keep the contacts window always visible on your screen? 15:11:00 <ecmuller> Mostly 15:11:42 <ecmuller> It's just sort of sitting there sublime 15:11:55 <ecmuller> it doesn't demand much of my attention 15:14:31 <flo-retina> do you look at the list once in a while when you have something to say, or do you want the status change to attract your attention? 15:15:10 <ecmuller> Sort of both 15:15:20 <flo-retina> for the first case, I think the awesometab would help 15:16:18 <ecmuller> Yeah I've noticed you guys have been playing with that recently, I've been liking the changes 15:17:18 <ecmuller> I would have to have another window open for that, and it's larger 15:18:06 <ecmuller> I'm not looking to have something obnoxious that draws my attention either, just something that I can notice 15:18:47 <flo-retina> so maybe an activity stream at the top of the contacts window? 15:18:58 <flo-retina> with the list of the last few relevant events? 15:19:43 <ecmuller> That might be nice, when I use finch I usually set up a log window with tail so I can watch that 15:20:01 <ecmuller> I'm not sure that's quite what I want 15:20:18 <ecmuller> I have a few thousand people in the contacts 15:21:23 <ecmuller> So to have someone I don't care about flipping their status every few seconds for most of the day, I don't want to know about that 15:21:46 <flo-retina> clokep_: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/Makefile.in#66 15:22:11 <flo-retina> looks like that was the solution to fix objdirs after removing vkontakte 15:22:31 <flo-retina> make backend.RecursiveMakeBackend at the top level 15:22:33 <clokep_> flo-retina: Looks like it, yes. You going to port it? :P 15:22:40 <clokep_> Or do we just need to call that? 15:22:56 <flo-retina> apparently it more or less expects things to be started with mach though :( 15:31:39 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:37:24 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 16:00:45 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:45:43 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:16:43 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:16:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:17:59 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 17:18:05 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:18:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:18:23 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:19:07 <aleth> Looks like the notification bar during log sweeping is definitely worth it on a NFS drive ;) 17:27:38 <aleth> Ah, the XMPP contacts are now ranked reasonably. 17:31:49 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 17:36:57 <aleth> flo: It's possible these rules don't work well on Mac, as notification.css (from toolkit) is very different for OSX http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/blist.css#151 17:37:15 <aleth> The text is centered correctly on Linux. 17:37:32 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 17:37:51 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:37:59 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 17:42:03 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2265 filed by email@example.com. 17:42:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2265 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Delete all computed scores when log sweeping is complete 17:48:53 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 17:48:54 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:49:25 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 17:50:02 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:53:43 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 17:59:21 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:59:39 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:02:44 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:03:00 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:04:28 <-- GeKo has quit (Quit: leaving) 18:04:36 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 18:10:35 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:14 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 18:29:54 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:30:08 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:39:37 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 18:40:11 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 18:42:02 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:42:15 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 18:50:44 <hadi> Hello 18:50:53 <clokep_> Hello hadi. 18:51:48 <hadi> clokep_ hi :). i had a general question regardin instantbird and irc 18:52:19 <clokep_> hadi: Please just go ahead and ask any questions, hopefully someone has an ansewr. ;) 18:52:25 <hadi> How can i bring up a conversation once it is closed in the app? like if the global window is closed, so i can't enter any commands 18:53:35 <hadi> I assume i have to reconnect to the network to get the global window opened again? 18:54:28 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org requested review from email@example.com for attachment 3109 on bug 2265. 18:54:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2265 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Delete all computed scores when log sweeping is complete 18:54:57 <clokep_> hadi: I don't understand what "global window" means, do you mean the contact list? (Are you on a Mac?) 18:55:18 <clokep_> hadi: My guess is File > Join Chat... 18:59:33 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2266 filed by firstname.lastname@example.org. 18:59:34 <instantbot> email@example.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 3110 on bug 2266. 18:59:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2266 min, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Ensure awesometab is refreshed immediately after log sweeping 19:00:06 <aleth> hadi: Conversations with contacts, or IRC channels, or...? 19:00:44 <hadi> with the IRC global window itself 19:01:17 <hadi> clokep_: no i'm on windows 19:01:37 <aleth> hadi: Try "Join chat" or "New conversation" (if you are on a nightly) from the menu 19:01:57 <aleth> I have no idea what the global window is either though ;) 19:02:59 <hadi> aleth: oo great. this is what i was looking for... instabird noob B) 19:03:29 <aleth> No problem! 19:05:35 <hadi> I have another question as well, Any ideas what hotkeys to press to jump the focus to the input? i'm using a ScreenReader since i'm blind, when i'm navigating the focus drops to the links which are in the output so i have to press tab untill i hit the input again. 19:06:21 <aleth> Hmm... maybe Shift-TAB gets you there faster? 19:06:46 <aleth> Here's the keyboard shortcuts https://wiki.instantbird.org/Keyboard_shortcuts 19:07:10 <aleth> There doesn't seem to be one to focus the input box. Please file a bug if you feel there should be one! 19:09:38 <hadi> aleth: shift tab just is the opposite cycle. I might file a bug, but don't know if i could do that with my fair english language 19:09:40 <flo-retina> typing any key usually focuses the input box 19:09:49 <flo-retina> (and inserts that letter in the input box) 19:10:05 <flo-retina> not sure if it works when a link is focused though 19:10:11 <aleth> flo-retina: D'oh! Didn't think of that. 19:10:27 <aleth> It works. 19:10:36 <aleth> hadi: Can you confirm it works for you? 19:11:57 <hadi> Oh, it does work for me, if i turn the virtual navigation feature off. (it's for ScreenReaders, arrow keys+shortcuts for jumping to links/buttons/other elements 19:12:22 <hadi> my SR treats the output window like a web browser window it seems. 19:12:41 <aleth> hadi: If you feel it could/should be improved, please don't be afraid to file a bug (https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/enter_bug.cgihttps://bugzilla.instantbird.org/enter_bug.cgi) 19:12:42 <flo-retina> it is one. Messages are displayed using HTML 19:12:43 <clokep_> It is a browser window, so that makes sense. :) 19:13:04 <aleth> hadi: Which screen reader do you use? 19:14:09 <hadi> Oh makes sense lol. I have no idea if it could be possible to include my suggestion or not, for example adding the hotkey alt+e (if it does not exist) puts you in the input box 19:14:22 <hadi> aleth: I use JAWS 19:14:58 <aleth> hadi: I asked because we've had a lot of feedback from NVDA 19:15:00 <hadi> it implements some kind of virtual viewer when it hits browser pages, so basicly it steals your hotkeys for other navigation purposes 19:15:32 <aleth> That's good to know (and little we can do about it). But if you just start typing your message, it should always go straight to the input box. 19:15:38 <hadi> I have NVDA as well, but i believe NVDA is the same thing? 19:16:46 <aleth> I have no idea what the precise differences are. 19:17:07 <hadi> aleth it does not work.. :( for instance pressing G, will take my focus to the smily that you posted above, the ":)" one.. 19:17:56 <aleth> hadi: That's definitely JAWS behaving badly then ;) 19:17:56 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org granted review for attachment 3110 on bug 2266. 19:17:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2266 min, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Ensure awesometab is refreshed immediately after log sweeping 19:18:07 <hadi> I'll see if i can find a quick hotkey in my screenreader to turn the virtualviewer off or something 19:19:16 <hadi> aleth: no, not badly, it's useful when we navigate through webpages, you can press l for links, g for graphics, f for buttons... but not in this case! 19:19:35 <aleth> hadi: I was joking. It's just not something we knew about. 19:21:41 * clokep_ wonders if https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5 is still up to date. 19:21:46 <hadi> aleth: right :d 19:22:16 <aleth> Therefore the request to file bugs if you have good ideas/encounter issues ;) 19:22:36 <aleth> clokep_: I don't know what's left beyond https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=1.5-blocking 19:23:51 <hadi> aleth: I will, thanks 19:23:54 <hadi> thanks for helpin! 19:24:03 <clokep_> aleth: I updated the etherpad a bit 19:26:00 <flo-retina> aleth: are you taking the conv on hold one? 19:26:14 <flo-retina> aleth: I was hoping to have a go at the time bubbles one in the train tomorrow morning 19:26:34 <flo-retina> if I'm awake enough to do some coding (it will be too early for me, but I may get some stuff done...) 19:27:21 <aleth> flo-retina: I don't know if I will get around to it. It requires a bit of thinking. 19:27:38 <flo-retina> they both do 19:27:51 <flo-retina> I remember trying to patch time bubbles in the hotel during the summit evenings, and failing 19:27:57 <flo-retina> it was more complicated than it looked 19:28:04 <hadi> Is it possible to replace sounds of instabird for notifications? i couldn't find any soundfiles in the installation directory 19:28:04 <aleth> It always is :-/ 19:28:14 <aleth> hadi: You can do it by making your own sound theme 19:28:44 <aleth> Grab this add-on https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/323, unzip it, and modify it to suit your tastes 19:28:55 <aleth> Then upload to the addon site to share it ;) 19:29:23 <hadi> aleth: amazing great thanks! 19:29:31 <flo-retina> aleth: looking at bug 2265's patch, why is the delete at this specific line, and not somewhere elese? 19:29:51 <flo-retina> wouldn't it make more sense to do it when you are done or when you start tinkering with the stats object? 19:29:56 <aleth> It's right after we modify the stats entry. 19:30:10 <flo-retina> doesn't stats.lastDate have an impact too? 19:30:26 <aleth> Compare http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/components/ibConvStatsService.js#526 19:30:49 <aleth> flo-retina: You're right, maybe it should be a line further down then. 19:31:20 <flo-retina> if you move it after |stats.lastDate = date;|, I guess you can get r+ from me if nhnt11 doesn't look at it soon 19:31:41 <aleth> I don't think it makes a difference now, but it's better to be consistent 19:33:21 <hadi> aleth: i got a .XPI file, it seems that i can't extract it, even with winrar 19:33:39 <clokep_> hadi: Try renaming it to .zip. 19:33:49 <instantbot> email@example.com cancelled review?(firstname.lastname@example.org) for attachment 3109 on bug 2265. 19:33:50 <instantbot> email@example.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 3111 on bug 2265. 19:33:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2265 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Delete all computed scores when log sweeping is complete 19:33:56 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:34:31 <aleth> hadi: This might also be useful https://wiki.instantbird.org/Main_Page 19:35:16 <hadi> clokep_: wow that was smart. it worked 19:35:22 <hadi> aleth thank you 19:37:35 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org granted review for attachment 3111 on bug 2265. 19:37:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2265 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Delete all computed scores when log sweeping is complete 19:39:26 <hadi> that's amazing, I might try to translate instantbird, in Persian. Have to check tortoise to see if i can work with it though 19:39:42 <aleth> hadi: That would be great! :) 19:40:10 <clokep_> Tortoise is just a suggestion, you can use whatever Mercurial client you want 19:43:08 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 19:46:06 <hadi> Well, I have never worked with such clients. so tortoise should be fine i guess 19:48:52 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 19:49:35 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:51:49 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 19:58:59 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:59:14 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:02:39 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 20:10:45 <hadi> is the incoming message notification sound supposed to play when the conversation window is not opened? or it always plays when you get messages 20:12:50 <clokep_> hadi: It plays whenever you get a message in a private chat or if someone directs a message to you in a chatroom. 20:12:56 <clokep_> (I forget if it's the same sound or not though. :)) 20:13:53 <hadi> Oh thanks that makes sense. can i test a PM? 20:14:40 <hadi> clokep_: on you that is.. :) 20:16:24 <clokep_> hadi: Sure. 21:19:08 <-- igorko has quit (Client exited) 21:30:46 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:32:41 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 21:36:08 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 22:10:52 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 22:19:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:19:26 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:32:41 <flo-retina> I just gave a quick look at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/locales/en-US/yahoo.properties 22:32:54 <flo-retina> I'll definitively have some review comments :-/ 22:33:12 <flo-retina> "login.error.unknown=Unknown Error %S" needs at least a localization note. 22:33:26 <flo-retina> I've no idea of the context for "network.error.http=HTTP connection error."; why do we even need this? 22:33:47 <flo-retina> options.proxySSL should just be removed 22:33:57 <flo-retina> and probably options.chatLocale too 22:34:32 <flo-retina> I hope the options.transferHost/Port strings are never displayed in the UI (as we don't support file transfer), but it's not a problem if they are in the locales file; if we intend to use them eventually 22:34:46 <flo-retina> I don't think any user can understand what "Pager port" means. 22:34:56 <flo-retina> is this just meant to be "Port"? 22:38:16 <clokep> qheaden: ^ 22:38:25 <clokep> I believe it's just "Port" though, yes. 22:38:28 <flo-retina> the HTTP error is from http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/yahoo/yahoo-session.jsm#595 The code doesn't seem to help much here. It seems a generic error. Note that the indent is wrong ;). 22:39:47 <clokep> I'd like qheaden to take a look at these, but if he doesn't have time I'll do a patch. 22:41:19 <flo-retina> clokep: don't bother rev'ing the string ids. I checked who localized this file already: only 2 localizers did, and I'm pretty sure they use the rss feed of en-US or something, so I think they can pickup changes even without id change. 22:41:29 <flo-retina> if they don't notice we'll email them; I'm sure they are responsive. 22:41:35 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks. :) 22:42:19 * flo-retina goes to bed 22:43:23 <clokep> 'night! 23:02:48 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:38:01 <-- ecmuller has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:55:02 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer)