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Happy bugspam all ;) 07:43:02 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:43:23 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:43:55 <instant-buildbot> build #1166 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1166 07:43:55 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:44:03 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 07:45:31 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:46:19 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:47:33 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:47:46 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:47:49 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/0e870bcb05b7 - aleth - Bug 2251 - Accounts stuck in the "Connectingâ¦" state, r=fqueze,clokep. 07:49:35 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:50:05 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:51:36 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:52:26 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:53:38 --> dew has joined #instantbird 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rather than undefined?" I guess I'm confused about the status of global variables which are just declared without an initial value. Are they properties of some 'global' object? 11:29:34 <flo-retina> I'm confused by this question. 11:29:50 <flo-retina> if you do |var foo;| anywhere, that declares "foo" and its value is undefined. 11:29:51 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:29:52 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:31:02 <aleth> What I'm asking is whether the global scope is secretly an object 11:31:40 <flo-retina> it is an object, but I don't see how that's a secret 11:31:41 <aleth> I'm probably just confused. 11:31:58 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:32:00 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:32:28 <aleth> How do you refer to it? 11:32:46 <flo-retina> if you are in the global scope, with "this" 11:32:48 <clokep> this 11:32:56 <flo-retina> if you are not, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Components.utils.getGlobalForObject 11:33:02 <flo-retina> clokep: good morning :) 11:33:03 * clokep has no idea at all what you're trying to do... 11:33:05 <aleth> OK, thanks! 11:33:14 <clokep> It seems like whatever you're trying to do that made you have this conversation is WRONG. 11:33:14 <flo-retina> clokep: he's trying to address my review comments 11:33:14 <aleth> Not trying to do anything 11:33:16 <clokep> And should be rethought. 11:33:36 <clokep> flo-retina: Good morning. :) 11:33:48 <aleth> flo-retina: Actually I'm trying to remember what I was thinking when I made that particular change ;) 11:33:53 <flo-retina> clokep: I think what made us have this conversation is lack of coffee ;) 11:34:03 <aleth> flo-retina: That too :) 11:34:08 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:34:09 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:34:26 <aleth> Does anyone know dew and ask him to reboot or something? ;) 11:34:28 <clokep> :) 11:34:38 <clokep> aleth: I was thinking of just banning him. :( 11:34:43 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 11:34:58 <aleth> clokep: Maybe memoserv + ban would work. 11:36:10 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:36:12 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:37:08 <flo-retina> aleth: it's still not clear to me re bug 2210. Bug 2115 is not even in the 1.5-* list. 11:37:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Stats ids are not set consistently 11:37:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a way to obtain the normalizedName of a nick 11:38:11 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:38:55 <aleth> flo-retina: You can't fix bug 2210 properly without fixing bug 2115 first. Bug 2210 is "we claim to build id's using normalizedNames but actually in the code in various places we don't use the normalized name, usually because we don't have it, leading to errors when trying to get or set stats" 11:40:17 <aleth> So patching bug 2210 is pretty trivial but requires bug 2115 to be able to do it. 11:40:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Stats ids are not set consistently 11:40:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a way to obtain the normalizedName of a nick 11:40:40 <flo-retina> :-S 11:41:24 <flo-retina> aleth: I've no idea of what this all means. I'm less familiar with the normalized mess than you are these days ;). 11:41:39 <aleth> I originally suggested in the bug we could hack around it by using the log directory name but I think that just introduces extra edge cases. 11:42:03 <flo-retina> I'm also confused by what requires building in there 11:42:06 <aleth> flo-retina: We need unique identifiers to refer to conversations and normalizedNames is what we use for that. 11:42:55 <clokep> flo-retina: He has to change idls. 11:43:40 <aleth> Also add a function implementing that to prplxpcom 11:43:48 <flo-retina> wouldn't anybody with a build machine, but less knowledge of this than him be able to just rebuild the .xpt file for him? 11:44:44 <aleth> Wouldn't it make more sense for someone else to grab this bug and I review it? 11:45:50 <flo-retina> if you can find someone who understands what needs to be done, sure 11:45:53 <aleth> Or to pair up on it. 11:45:53 <flo-retina> I don't. 11:45:58 <flo-retina> yeah, we could pair on it 11:46:50 <flo-retina> (I'm not even sure I really understand what problem this is trying to address. The ranking of my xmpp contacts has always been good; and they definitely use various resources) 11:47:53 <aleth> There's an issue with the libpurple XMPP. There's an issue with IRC nicks and channels which are not all lowercase. etc... 11:47:53 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:48:30 <flo-retina> the parts of my new desktop computer have been delivered. 11:48:32 <aleth> Like all normalize bugs, it doesn't break "most" cases but if you are unlucky enough to be affected it is certainly noticeable. 11:48:47 <flo-retina> aleth: ah, it's libpurple xmpp but doesn't apply with gtalk? 11:49:23 <clokep> aleth: I can probably do it, but I haven't investigated any of the libpurple junk. 11:49:25 <clokep> Have you? 11:49:28 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes, I see it because I see gtalk contacts via federation. 11:49:31 <clokep> The stuff in our prpls should be easy. 11:49:40 <aleth> clokep: I agree, It's not a difficult bug. 11:50:29 <flo-retina> yeah, it looks like it's more confused than it should 11:50:32 <aleth> The libpurple part just requires something like http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleConvChat.cpp#57 11:50:40 <aleth> (with an extra parameter) 11:50:55 <aleth> You don't have to touch libpurple itself, thankfully. 11:51:31 <flo-retina> so you even know what we need to type? 11:51:36 <aleth> The only question about it is whether we should rewrite the normalizedName getters in the process to use these new API functions, to avoid duplication. 11:51:39 <flo-retina> You just want to ssh into one of our machines and code it ;) 11:51:59 <clokep> aleth: I don't understand that question. But I guess the answer is "yes". 11:52:58 <flo-retina> if that's inside purplexpcom, I suspect the answer may be no 11:53:02 <flo-retina> but it doesn't seem important right now 11:54:53 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:54:58 <clokep> aleth: Can you give me a "patch" that either has some code that should theoretically work or comments of where to change things? 11:54:58 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:55:22 <aleth> clokep: Sure 11:56:58 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:57:15 <clokep> dew: What's w/ your connection? 11:58:11 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:58:59 --> dew has joined #instantbird 11:59:05 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:01:04 --> dew has joined #instantbird 12:01:10 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:02:30 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:03:05 --> dew has joined #instantbird 12:03:27 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:03:54 --> dew has joined #instantbird 12:17:22 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 12:24:30 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 12:26:18 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 12:33:20 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 12:33:20 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:52:01 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:52:17 * clokep is now known as clokep_ 12:52:46 <dew> I created a dhcp reserveration for an IP that already existed 12:52:51 <dew> on my network 12:53:32 <dew> that's why my connection kept dropping clokep_ 12:53:43 <clokep_> dew: OK. :) I Hope it's fixed now. ;) 12:58:57 <clokep_> flo-retina: Thanks for going through the sw:1.5 list. 13:29:15 <-- clokep_ has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 13:32:03 <aleth> Anyone seen this on shutdown? Call to xpconnect wrapped JSObject produced this error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80470003 (NS_BASE_STREAM_OSERROR) nsIConverterOutputStream.close]" nsresult: "0x80470003 (NS_BASE_STREAM_OSERROR)" location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/components/logger.js :: cl_close :: line 203" data: no] 13:32:28 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 13:32:37 * clokep is now known as clokep___ 13:33:19 <flo-retina> clokep_: no problem; I hope it makes more sense now. 13:36:58 --> Guido has joined #instantbird 13:38:26 <aleth> Ignore that shutdown error, I think it's not due to an IB problem 13:40:21 <flo-retina> so what was it? 13:40:37 <aleth> Probably just a transient NFS issue 13:42:18 <flo-retina> ah 13:42:31 <flo-retina> well, in that case we may still want to have better error reporting ;) 13:44:59 <aleth> We also don't handle file system issues during imContacts.js calls at all well 13:45:09 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 13:45:33 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 13:45:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 13:57:59 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 13:58:19 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 13:58:20 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 13:59:25 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:03:38 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 14:03:57 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:03:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:06:12 <-- Guido has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:09:23 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 14:23:27 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(nhnt11@gmail.com) for attachment 3051 on bug 2208. 14:23:28 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 3064 on bug 2208. 14:23:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Show a notification bar in the awesometab while log sweeping. 14:24:34 <aleth> clokep: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/bug2115 14:24:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2115 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a way to obtain the normalizedName of a nick 14:29:09 <clokep___> aleth: Thanks, left some questions. 14:29:49 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:30:35 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 14:30:36 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 14:31:23 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(nhnt11@gmail.com) for attachment 3064 on bug 2208. 14:31:24 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 3065 on bug 2208. 14:31:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Show a notification bar in the awesometab while log sweeping. 15:11:25 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 15:16:59 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 2254 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 15:17:00 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 3066 on bug 2254. 15:17:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2254 enh, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Open conversations when joinChat is called for better responsiveness 15:19:13 <flo-retina> ooh, that title seems promising! 15:20:13 <flo-retina> lol 15:20:36 <flo-retina> "It improves things in 2 ways: 1. it feels more responsive. 2. It is more responsive." :-D 15:21:02 <flo-retina> (but I get what you mean; it's just the wording that's funny there ;)) 15:23:01 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:24:36 <clokep___> aleth: Seems reasonable. 15:24:43 <clokep___> I can't focus on this right now. 15:28:18 <flo-retina> does this give us an opportunity (or at least a place) to insult the user when failing to join a password protected channel? 15:28:37 <aleth> Right, that too! 15:28:53 <aleth> What do we currently do in that case? 15:29:22 <flo-retina> I think we do nothing/dump some garbage in the error console. 15:29:34 <aleth> :( 15:30:25 <clokep___> I'm pretty sure we put a message into conversation... 15:30:28 <clokep___> Currently. 15:31:28 <clokep___> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircBase.jsm#1327 15:32:01 <aleth> Phew :) That's OK then... 15:32:14 <flo-retina> clokep___: which conversation? 15:32:22 <flo-retina> (when it was joined from the Join Chat dialog) 15:32:41 <flo-retina> oh, we open the channel 15:32:43 <flo-retina> ok 15:32:46 * flo-retina shuts up 15:35:38 <clokep___> flo-retina: I think you complained loud enough at one point I fixed it for you already. ;) 15:36:21 <flo-retina> makes me look like someone who complains all the time :( 15:37:18 <aleth> flo-retina: The larger point is correct though. There's a couple of error messages on joining we don't currently have strings for. 15:38:00 <aleth> Codes 471, 473, 474, 476 for starters 15:38:11 <clokep___> Yes, we're definitely missing a few. 15:38:23 <clokep___> aleth: WIll this focus the conversation? 15:38:34 <aleth> It has nothing to do with focusing. 15:38:44 <aleth> But yes, it will help in the awesometab case. 15:40:03 <aleth> Actually it will help in all cases other than keyboard commands iirc! 15:40:24 <aleth> Because the existing focusConversation call will work. 15:40:28 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:45:05 <clokep___> Right. 15:45:12 <clokep___> aleth: Should the command call focusConversation? 15:45:38 <aleth> It isn't allowed to (prpls should not use the Conversations object). 15:47:52 <clokep___> aleth: I guess I don't know if commands are UI or prpl. ;) 15:48:02 <clokep___> What is focusConversation part of? 15:48:20 <clokep___> Don't we already break that somewhere? :-S 15:48:22 <aleth> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/modules/imWindows.jsm#72 15:51:24 <clokep___> Ah, never mind. :( 15:51:37 <aleth> I have no good ideas how to fix that bug :( 15:53:03 <flo-retina> aleth: can the command return the conversation, so that conversation.xml calls the focusConversation method on it? 15:53:29 <flo-retina> I think commands don't return anything right now 15:53:30 <aleth> I don't know - currently commands return true or false... 15:53:35 <flo-retina> ah 15:54:49 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2235 to DUPLICATE of bug 2254. 15:54:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2235 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Conversations opened from the newtab don't always receive focus 15:54:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2254 enh, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Open conversations when joinChat is called for better responsiveness 15:56:33 <aleth> I suppose one could check for queryinterface on the return value 16:05:56 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 16:06:46 <Mic|web> Hi 16:07:54 <clokep___> Hey Mic|web ! 16:09:34 <Mic|web> Is there a date for the release now by the way? I've seen flo's activity on BMO... 16:12:37 <aleth> Hi :) I think we'll have a date when we string freeze... 16:13:13 <Mic|web> aleth: when is that? 16:13:32 <aleth> I don't know (there are pending reviews, and there are server issues) 16:16:01 <Mic|web> I want to decide whether trying to finish bug 1511 during the weekend would be "rushing for the release" or not... ;) 16:16:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Possible to add duplicate accounts 16:16:59 <aleth> If you finished it this weekend, I would be really surprised if it wasn't in 1.5 ;) 16:17:17 <aleth> Does that have strings too? 16:18:48 <flo-retina> Mic|web: if was finished this week-end, I would take it 16:18:58 <flo-retina> Mic|web: we have at least 1 week of string freeze 16:19:00 <Mic|web> aleth: no, it doesn't. 16:19:17 <flo-retina> so that should be enough to catch regressions 16:20:31 <flo-retina> Mic|web: the only date I've heard mentioned for the release was yesterday. But I haven't found the new release on the website yet :-S. 16:27:34 --> dew has joined #instantbird 16:28:00 <dew> bah 16:30:43 <clokep___> flo-retina: Be nice. :P 16:30:56 <Mic|web> I need to go, have a nice day! 16:31:03 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:31:03 <flo-retina> clokep___: ? 16:36:11 <dew> I don't think I'm ever going to get around to contributing coding, I'm sorry guys :( 16:39:43 * flo-retina wonders how he hasn't been nice with :-S 16:40:14 <flo-retina> s/how/who/ 16:40:44 <flo-retina> dew: any cool project taking up all your spare time these days? :) 16:41:43 <dew> just work. I wish we were doing JS at work so that I could take it home and apply it :/ 16:43:05 <flo-retina> if you are still interested in learning JS, maybe you can pick something smaller to get started/learn the language? 16:45:11 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 3066 on bug 2254. 16:45:12 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 3067 on bug 2254. 16:45:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2254 enh, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Open conversations when joinChat is called for better responsiveness 16:47:43 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 3067 on bug 2254. 16:47:44 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 3068 on bug 2254. 16:47:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2254 enh, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Open conversations when joinChat is called for better responsiveness 16:48:42 <aleth> Aren't there websites that teach you to JS in bite-sized chunks? 16:52:43 <aleth> dew: http://www.codecademy.com/ or http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/02/learn-to-code-the-full-beginners-guide/ maybe? 16:57:37 <dew> yes but my problem is that I can't get anything productive done outside of work 16:58:10 <aleth> Those interactive snippets might fit into coffe breaks ;) 16:59:05 <aleth> But don't let us push you... 17:02:20 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 17:04:17 <flo-retina> ah, I finally remember which patch I wanted to push this morning! 17:13:52 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:14:15 --> dew has joined #instantbird 17:21:09 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:28:32 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 17:28:50 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:29:33 --> dew has joined #instantbird 17:36:18 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:37:37 --> dew has joined #instantbird 17:42:06 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:42:40 --> dew has joined #instantbird 17:42:59 <aleth> dew: are you timeouting again? 17:43:17 <dew> yeah I have no idea why 17:43:44 <dew> too much wireless interference? 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20:19:15 <clokep> that bug. 20:19:52 <clokep> I'm unsure if all the normalizedName getters are still necesary or not. 20:19:59 <clokep> (And where to add these new functions...) 20:20:03 <clokep> It's just frustrating. 20:20:12 <aleth> Yeah, devil in the details. 20:20:29 <aleth> I've checked IRC and twitter, if you take a look at yahoo I can look at xmpp 20:21:11 <clokep> ... 20:21:17 <clokep> "checked" for what? 20:21:42 <aleth> Whether there is any difference in normalization between the different getters 20:21:52 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:22:06 <clokep> That wasn't my question at all. :-/ 20:22:30 <aleth> Ah. 20:22:32 <clokep> GTalk will have differences anyway. 20:22:48 <clokep> It needs to know that clokep == clokep@gmail.com for the account name. 20:22:50 <aleth> So, the getters are still needed because you still want to be able to refer to the normalizedName of the various objects 20:23:05 <clokep> That's what I'm asking. 20:23:08 <clokep> Do we really still need that. 20:23:15 <aleth> It seems convenient\ 20:23:21 <clokep> Only if it's used. 20:23:24 <clokep> Otherwise it's cruft. 20:23:35 <aleth> Umm, it's the only thing that's used at the moment 20:23:37 <aleth> There is nothing else 20:24:56 <aleth> What would you do instead? Replace all ...buddy.normalizedName with account.getnormalizedname(buddy.name) or similar messes? 20:25:02 <aleth> I guess I don't understand your question 20:25:10 <clokep> For the account. 20:25:22 <clokep> When the hell do we ever get the normalized name except to compare it to other account names? 20:25:34 <clokep> We probably use it in the logger too, I guess. 20:25:43 <aleth> Yeah, and the stats service of course 20:26:22 <clokep> I was trying to figure out if it even makes sense at all to expose this at all for the account or if it should just have an "isAccountNameEquals" method that returns a bool. 20:26:39 <aleth> That won't work for the logger etc 20:26:59 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:27:08 <clokep> Yes, you've now got me to reach that conclusion finally. :P 20:27:44 <aleth> What I was wondering about (and thought you were) is whether a single normalize function is enough (per protocol) or whether we really need getNormalizedNameForXXX() 20:28:14 <clokep> I doubt it is. 20:28:44 <aleth> Looking at XMPP, I think you are right :-/ 20:29:19 <clokep> Do we need both getNormalizedNameForAccountBuddy and getNormalizedNameForBuddy? 20:29:22 <clokep> Wat's the difference? 20:29:53 <clokep> (Also do we still need getNormalizedChatBuddyName ?) 20:29:57 <aleth> Same question - it depends on whether currently for any implementation there is a difference 20:30:13 <aleth> Please lets don't talk about getNormalizedChatBuddyName right now ;) 20:30:14 <clokep> I get confused about what an account buddy is and a buddy... 20:34:20 <aleth> iirc prpls only implement the former 20:34:27 <aleth> So the latter should not be anything independent 20:35:28 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:35:48 <clokep> I have a feeling it'll just forward or something if it's even necessary. 20:36:01 <aleth> Looks like it http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/components/src/imContacts.js#940 20:37:29 <aleth> So, progress :) So we are left with Account, AccountBuddy, and Conversation 20:40:50 <aleth> js-xmpp seems to actively normalize only for the account (this is really surprising to me - it doesn't even lowercase) 20:41:18 <clokep> That seems wrong 20:41:23 <aleth> It does 20:41:24 <clokep> Does it fall back to the proto? 20:41:28 <aleth> No 20:41:39 <aleth> (if you mean to jsProtoHelper) 20:42:14 <aleth> e.g. http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#91 20:43:02 <aleth> me wonders why flo did it that way 20:43:55 <aleth> Unless I'm missing something, yahoo doesn't override jsprotohelper at all. 20:44:20 <aleth> So no headache there (since that implementation was recently fixed) 20:45:10 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 20:45:16 <clokep> The default now is just toLowerCase, right? 20:45:22 <aleth> (unless the fact that there is no reference to normalizedNames anywhere in js-yahoo is itself some bug...) 20:45:25 <aleth> clokep: right 20:57:15 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 20:59:07 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:59:07 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 21:01:19 <clokep> aleth: I don't think so. 21:04:34 <flo-retina> "<clokep> I get confused about what an account buddy is and a buddy..." :'( 21:05:05 <clokep> flo-retina: Well really my sentence there was "I'm confused about why we're talking about account buddies here" 21:05:37 <flo-retina> ah, that's much better! :) 21:07:27 <clokep> That conversation killed all my motivation to work on that. :-\ 21:10:23 <flo-retina> I'm not very surprised. 21:17:34 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 21:36:43 <-- igorko has quit (Client exited) 22:23:17 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 22:27:44 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:27:47 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 22:28:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:49:43 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 23:04:47 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:06:42 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:11:33 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 23:16:04 <flo-retina> I'm looking into the partial update issue 23:16:23 <flo-retina> it's strange, build ids don't match 23:17:37 <flo-retina> for the request from 1/Instantbird/1.5a1pre/20131111180411/Darwin... we offer a complete update to 2013-11-20-05-instantbird/instantbird-1.5a1pre.en-US.mac.complete.mar and no partial. And we actually don't have any partial update file to update from 20131111180411. But we have one to update from 20131118062825 23:17:42 <flo-retina> which is likely the same build 23:18:02 <flo-retina> so why is the build id in the update request and in the update files we have on the server different? 23:18:23 <flo-retina> I don't see how this could have happened with the server update. 23:18:28 <flo-retina> Could it be from the last mozilla update? 23:20:29 <clokep> It's possible. 23:20:39 <clokep> I vaguely feel like we ported something that touches the build ID? 23:20:48 <flo-retina> what what I'm saying doesn't make any sense 23:21:06 <flo-retina> one build here is from november 11; it's expected that we have no partial for something that old 23:21:48 <flo-retina> ok, forget what I said; it makes no sense 23:22:16 <flo-retina> so from 1/Instantbird/1.5a1pre/20131118062825/Darwin we offered a full update to 2013-11-20-05-instantbird 23:22:40 <flo-retina> although we have a mar file instantbird-1.5a1pre.en-US.mac.partial.from-20131118062825.mar in the folder 23:22:43 <flo-retina> that's the correct build id 23:23:09 <clokep> OK. 23:26:06 * flo-retina wonders how one accesses phpmyadmin on the new server :-S 23:26:32 <flo-retina> ah, got it :) 23:27:15 <-- mpmc has quit (Client exited)