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Thanks, <whoever sends the email>" ;) 13:38:58 <-- clokep_ has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:06:33 <flo-retina> alright, needinfo on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885740 for both mconley and Standard8. Last chance before a backout! 14:12:25 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:13:00 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I think that's the prudent choice. :) 14:13:40 <flo-retina> it's bad that this is falling on Mike when he's so busy with Australis 14:13:44 <flo-retina> but that's not our fault :) 14:15:12 <flo-retina> btw, I'm a bit worried that at our current rate, 1.5 will be released in February :( 14:27:53 <clokep_work> Me too. 14:27:58 <clokep_work> What needs to get done that people can do? :P 14:30:51 <flo-retina> "motivating people"? 14:31:44 <flo-retina> I think we are in the situation that 0.2 has been stuck in for months, where everybody knows he's got stuff to do/finish, but doesn't feel pressure to actually do it, because a few other people also have stuff to finish, so each of the people finishing what's on their plate doesn't unblock the release in any way. 14:36:12 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:50:35 <clokep_work> I think I'm out of things. :-/ 14:50:38 <clokep_work> So feel pressured. 14:52:44 <flo-retina> clokep_work: really? You need more things? 14:53:15 <flo-retina> clokep_work: what's the status of bug 2148? :-P 14:53:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2148 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Remove VKontakte protocol 14:54:06 <flo-retina> I think someone also needs to go through https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=sw%3A1.5&list_id=6006 and remove the stuff that we aren't going to address soon anyway 14:54:15 <flo-retina> and possibly also add the stuff that are real blockers but aren't filed 14:54:23 <clokep_work> flo-retina: The status is that I hate oauth. 14:56:14 <flo-retina> off the top of my head, the linux buildbot slave is OOO, the partial updates rarely (if ever) work, updates sometimes don't work at all (permission issues when clearing the cache), the www-staging website isn't up, we don't get oncommit builds, we can't start builds by hand, buildbot-l10n is in a sorry state. 15:35:04 <-- GeKo has quit (Ping timeout) 15:36:31 --> GeKo has joined #instantbird 15:39:39 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:19:12 <-- mrphs has quit (Ping timeout) 16:23:33 --> mrphs has joined #instantbird 16:26:54 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 16:26:55 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:33:28 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:40:58 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:43:55 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:43:56 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:46:19 * mconley is now known as mconley|lunch 17:52:40 <aleth> So on the 1.5 list, I see 1 Mac bug, 2 Linux build issues, 1 patch for nhnt11 to do (or not), a bunch of patches awaiting review, the mutation observer thing that noone knows how to solve, a bug that Mic said he could finish but hasn't, and that autojoin onhold issue where we don't know what the expected behaviour should be. 17:53:08 <aleth> That doesn't look too bad actually imho ;) 17:54:47 <aleth> Oh, and the vkontakte thing :( 17:55:23 <aleth> Maybe clokep would like to steal some reviews? ;) 17:55:49 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:04:31 <Mook_as> hmm, which 1.5 list? quick bugzilla query for t:1.5 only returned the tooltip size thing... 18:05:16 <flo-retina> aleth: "we don't know what the expected behaviour should be." really? 18:05:29 <flo-retina> anyway, going home 18:05:29 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:05:29 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 18:05:48 <Mook_as> ah, sw:1.5 18:10:47 * mconley|lunch is now known as mconley 18:40:58 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 18:40:58 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 18:41:45 <flo-retina> so typing /ba<enter> results in a "Your account is disconnected because your status is currently set to offline." system message, but "/bac<enter>" runs the back command :-S 18:42:39 <aleth> Sounds like bug? 18:43:14 <clokep_work> aleth: Right, but the list of servers things is large. :( 18:46:25 <aleth> clokep_work: Right... :( 18:49:17 <flo-retina> aleth: so what's unclear about the expected behavior? 18:59:52 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 19:09:58 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 19:10:19 <aleth> flo-retina: iirc whether to restrict that feature to autojoined channels or to find a better way to decide whether to remember on hold 19:10:53 <flo-retina> neither? 19:11:13 <aleth> see, it's unclear! :P 19:11:25 <flo-retina> what I had in mind was to remove from the "on hold" list when a _user_ action results in joining a channel 19:11:34 <flo-retina> so when typing /join or using the join chat dialog 19:12:25 <aleth> That's a good idea, but possibly not trivial to implement 19:12:35 <flo-retina> but yeah, restricting to auto-joined channels works (as long as we remember to cleanup the on-hold list whenever the value of the auto-join pref changes) 19:13:05 <flo-retina> it maybe better for privacy to avoid storing data we don't need 19:13:59 --> flo-retina1 has joined #instantbird 19:14:35 <flo-retina1> "<aleth> That's a good idea, but possibly not trivial to implement" never arrived on my side :( 19:14:48 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 19:14:51 <flo-retina1> even though the messages I typed later all reached instantbot's log :-S 19:15:07 <aleth> That's strange. You stopped receiving but not sending? 19:15:12 <flo-retina1> yeah 19:15:19 <flo-retina1> the wifi was being flaky 19:15:56 <flo-retina1> and then I noticed I was connected to my neighbor's router rather than mine, so I switched... and that obviously broke my ssh tunnel 19:16:39 <aleth> That almost makes sense... if the router had better reception of you than you of it ;) 19:18:03 * flo-retina1 would like his macbook to not connect to his neighbor's wifi without prompting first 19:18:32 <flo-retina1> having their password as a backup connection for when my is down is great; but I don't want to abuse it for no reason... 19:31:51 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:32:13 <flo-retina1> aleth: is this unblocked, now, or still has confused as before? 19:32:59 <aleth> flo-retina1: It seems unblocked in that the only way to decide how to fix it is to fix it. 19:33:32 <flo-retina1> heh, that's the status I thought the bug was in before our discussion ;) 19:44:47 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 19:47:53 <-- mpmc has quit (Client exited) 19:49:17 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 20:30:31 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:52 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:02:14 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 21:12:26 <-- GeKo has quit (Quit: leaving) 21:13:44 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 21:22:05 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:38:40 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 22:17:23 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:25:19 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 22:37:08 <-- mrphs has quit (Ping timeout) 22:39:03 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 22:39:38 --> dew has joined #instantbird 22:39:47 --> mrphs has joined #instantbird 23:26:00 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 23:29:56 <-- qlum has quit (Client exited) 23:29:57 --> dew has joined #instantbird