#instantbird log on 11 08 2013

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00:17:19 <flo-retina> ahah, after reverting bug 1050 bug 2066 and bug 1100, purplexpcom built fine in comm-release!
00:17:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
00:17:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
00:17:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors
00:22:41 <clokep_work> :)
00:27:16 <flo-retina> It even seems to work!
00:27:21 <flo-retina> I guess it's time to push to try
00:27:22 <clokep_work> Congrats. :)
00:27:31 <clokep_work> Are you allowed to push that to try? :-S
00:27:46 <clokep_work> Oh wait
00:27:50 <clokep_work> I'm thinking of something else, never mind.
00:27:59 <flo-retina> why not?
00:28:20 <clokep_work> GPL.
00:28:23 <clokep_work> Was my thought.
00:28:33 <clokep_work> But that's not the issue I was really thinking of...
00:28:37 * clokep_work was thinking of SKypekIt...
00:28:56 <flo-retina> ah
00:32:18 <flo-retina> my wiki page about building purplexpcom for Tb is the third google result for: thunderbird try server
00:32:19 <flo-retina> :-S
00:32:42 <clokep_work> Hahah. NIce. :)
00:33:26 <Mook_as> that might be personalized for you
00:33:39 <Mook_as> it's not even in my first page, I think
00:34:03 <flo-retina> Mook_as: maybe
00:34:56 <Mook_as> also, I guess we won't have any more problems with skypekit licenses :(
00:35:12 <flo-retina> Mook_as: yeah, these problems are all "fixed" :)
00:36:44 <flo-retina> "remote: added 123 changesets with 239 changes to 977 files (+5 heads)" Looks like that pushed tons of stuff...
00:37:10 <clokep_work> Hahah.
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00:48:25 <flo-retina> arg, my try server build is pointless, I haven't added the files to the package manifest :(
00:52:00 <flo-retina> hmm https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=30300811&tree=Thunderbird-Try&full=1 :(
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05:54:24 <instant-buildbot> build #1099 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1099
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07:42:09 <instant-buildbot> build #1152 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1152
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10:33:44 <aleth> Supporting that TB addon really does seem to be super painful :-/
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11:19:39 <clokep_work> aleth: That's probably an understatement. ;)
11:23:42 <aleth> Btw there was no Linux nightly yesterday.
11:24:38 <flo-retina> looks like there was no checkin yesterday
11:24:44 <flo-retina> but you can still bug Even about it :-D
11:25:12 <aleth> I don't need the nightly, I'm just mentioning it as there still seems to be backend work going on ;)
11:28:46 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 3019 on bug 1983.
11:28:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1983 tri, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Default normalizedName normalization is too aggressive
11:29:49 <clokep_work> Btw I know flo-retina was concerned about the stats service cache and stuff if we moved logs...but currently that would only affect nightly users.
11:30:16 <flo-retina> clokep_work: what about gloda?
11:30:30 <clokep_work> Oh, in TB?
11:30:33 <clokep_work> I forgot about that.
11:30:38 <clokep_work> GLODAAAA!!!
11:30:59 <aleth> The stats service cache is not a problem
11:31:16 <aleth> Users not being able to find their logs is the only issue really.
11:31:41 * clokep_work pokes flo-retina about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817596
11:31:48 <clokep_work> Btw that keeps me from logging into my XMPP account now. ;)
11:36:48 <flo-retina> is that the nounce bug?
11:39:37 <aleth> My RTL patch does weird things with the Simple theme :-S
11:45:50 <clokep_work> Yes.
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14:42:57 * clokep_work added some vague release notes to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-5
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14:58:46 * clokep_work wonders who the lurkers are in there. ;)
15:03:24 * flo-retina wonders if he's a lurker
15:06:56 <clokep_work> Did you put your name in?
15:08:11 * clokep_work wonders if he should file a bug to get 64-bit builds?
15:08:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I was confused because I didn't read the last message when I looked at the log :-[
15:08:46 <flo-retina> doesn't hurt to file one
15:10:07 * flo-retina discovers that alternate nicks are now supported
15:10:15 <flo-retina> I'd never seen that :-]
15:10:39 <flo-retina> I wonder if I somehow miss some of the patches that I haven't checked in myself
15:10:47 <flo-retina> worst thing is I'm pretty sure I reviewed the patch :-S
15:12:08 <clokep_work> You and aleth both did, I think! :-D
15:12:17 <clokep_work> And yes, alternate nicks are supported now. ;)
15:14:35 <flo-retina> ah, and to use it I was waiting for a follow up that would let me change the nick connected _by default_
15:14:51 <flo-retina> IIRC you said my suggestion was reasonable, but better in a follow up
15:15:19 <aleth> Isn't that renaming accounts?
15:15:32 <flo-retina> aleth: no. It's a workaround to avoid renaming them
15:15:35 <clokep_work> I'd much rather support renaming accounts.
15:15:47 <clokep_work> I said it was reasonable such that I'd think about supporting it, I believe. :P
15:16:05 <flo-retina> aleth: I was suggesting that if the default nick is somewhere in the list of alternate nicks, we don't preppend it to the list.
15:16:44 <flo-retina> that's a trivial change (or I would hope so) and not really discoverable, so it won't reduce much the requests for renaming accounts
15:16:50 <aleth> And which one do you identify with for nickserv?
15:16:51 <flo-retina> it would just let me drop the "-retina" suffix
15:17:11 <flo-retina> aleth: ah, that's another can of worm
15:17:47 * flo-retina is still annoyed by the SASL errors/warnings on freenode :(
15:18:17 <flo-retina> I wanted to code stuff today, but I don't feel motivated :(
15:18:31 <aleth> nice weather? ;)
15:18:37 <flo-retina> aleth: no
15:18:46 <flo-retina> well.
15:19:03 <flo-retina> It was good enough that I took the AMI instead of the modern car to drive to my parents'!
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15:23:51 <clokep_work> :)
15:24:01 <clokep_work> flo-retina: You were so excited to code stuff though! :)
15:24:04 <clokep_work> What can we do to motivate you? :P
15:24:29 <flo-retina> clokep_work: now I just feel motivated by taking a nap. ;)
15:26:10 <aleth> :)
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16:27:17 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 3021 on bug 1600.
16:27:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, RTL messages on the receiver side
16:33:05 <flo-retina> aleth: why removing the underline?
16:33:17 <aleth> Because an underline under ": " looks broken.
16:33:58 <aleth> That was probably the reason those content insertions were placed on the ib-msgtxt actually
16:34:16 <flo-retina> aleth: would unicode-bidi: -moz-plaintext; on .ib-msg-txt have done the right thing?
16:34:21 <aleth> No.
16:34:35 <aleth> ib-msg-txt is a span, so the alignment would not be set properly
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16:35:41 <aleth> I tried putting it on .message but that only works for Bubbles.
16:37:21 <flo-retina> so what's the problem with the underline exactly?
16:37:48 <aleth> The ": " following the nick gets underlined as well
16:38:04 <flo-retina> You said an underline under ": " looks wrong, but why haven't you just added text-decoration: none in span.pseudo:after ?
16:38:10 <aleth> I tried that.
16:38:13 <aleth> It gets ignored.
16:38:34 <aleth> Must be due to however before/after work.
16:40:11 <flo-retina> do we have someone around who can test a nightly after the patch lands, to tell us if it's correct?
16:40:27 <aleth> I don't think we have a RTL localization?
16:40:39 <aleth> Otherwise we could ask the localizer...
16:41:45 <aleth> Maybe we'll attract a RTL localizer after this lands ;)
16:43:07 <aleth> The image I posted yesterday just used this https://bug889742.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=770669
16:48:03 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 3021 on bug 1600.
16:48:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1600 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, RTL messages on the receiver side
16:48:59 <aleth> flo-retina: I feel the same way... it's better than nothing, but probably still broken, so unless users file bugs...
16:49:31 <flo-retina> I'm not really concerned about whether it's still broken, but more about if it regresses stuff
16:50:15 <aleth> My best guess is there is nothing to regress as we nowhere handle directionality
16:50:46 <aleth> But we'll find out ;)
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17:11:04 * clokep_work thinks he talked to some RTL localizers at the Summit...
17:11:07 <clokep_work> Now to remember their names...
17:14:28 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Nice review comments. :)
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17:24:23 <Mic> Hi
17:30:42 <clokep_work> Hello Mic.
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17:43:33 <Mic> Good: we have a shiny new findbar. Bad: it overflows when showing a message that the search will start from the bottom after the top was reached. Ugly: the look of the text overflowing into the participant list.
17:44:05 <clokep_work> Mic: We've always had a lot of issues w/ the find bar when you make it small. :(
17:44:21 <aleth> Mic: Uh, that really is bad :(
17:44:49 <aleth> clokep_work: But this is new.
17:45:36 <Mic> The up/down chevron icons aren't vertically centered for me either. I suspect they're meant to be.
17:45:49 <Mic> Yes, they are centered in Fx.
17:45:52 <aleth> Actually I think flo mentioned it at some point, but we've only had it since moz25
17:46:42 <aleth> Mic: The overflow looks particularly weird when the X to close it is in the participant list...
17:46:58 <Mic> Yes, it isn't clickable then :(
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18:39:46 <flo-retina> Mic: the overflow problem isn't new. I think we've had it since we have the findbar
18:40:23 <flo-retina> The up/down chevrons are correctly vertically centered here, but aren't retina friendly :-S
18:41:19 <flo-retina> The up/down chevrons actually don't work the way their icon indicate.
18:41:30 <flo-retina> This is likely caused by our reversed-findbar patch.
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18:47:09 <clokep_work> :(
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