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00:34:43 <instant-buildbot> build #487 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/487  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
00:56:09 <instant-buildbot> build #496 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/496
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04:06:27 <instant-buildbot> build #1019 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1019
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07:31:56 <instant-buildbot> build #1141 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1141
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09:59:07 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2994 on bug 2205.
09:59:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2205 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Error from log sweeping with a fresh profile
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10:28:47 <clokep> Hello. :)
10:29:39 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 2995 on bug 2049.
10:29:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2049 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Awesometab should filter on all contacts not just preferred buddy
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10:45:01 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 2996 on bug 2227.
10:45:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2227 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Make possibleChat id a lazy getter
10:45:43 <clokep> flo: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/24.1.0/releasenotes/
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11:02:01 <clokep> Thanks for cleaning up some of those minor things aleth. :)
11:05:15 <flo-retina> so it looks like the fix yesterday for the upload path worked
11:05:39 <flo-retina> I looked at the "distribute" log... I'm sure some update files are a bit messed up
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11:06:12 <nhnt11> aleth, Mic: Thanks for looking at those bugs :)
11:06:18 <flo-retina> especially the partial update files to update from October 28th to October 30th are guaranteed to be wrong (as they were done based on a complete mar from October 29th...)
11:06:31 <flo-retina> I guess I'll need to go do some cleanup in the data base and on the ftp
11:06:49 * flo-retina is annoyed this is happening at the same time as the server migration
11:06:51 <flo-retina> oh well :)
11:07:16 * nhnt11 is traveling tonight and plans to look at bugs
11:07:33 <nhnt11> I was free yesterday but ran into some friends :]
11:10:25 <clokep> Not allowed!
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11:13:55 <flo-retina> nhnt11: did you mean to got opportunities to mentor friends so that they fix your bugs? ;)
11:14:12 <flo-retina> s/mean to got/mean you got/
11:14:28 <nhnt11> heh
11:14:35 <nhnt11> one of my friends is interested
11:15:18 <nhnt11> but yesterday we went to the city for food :)
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11:34:19 <flo-retina> aleth, re the patch in bug 2049, wouldn't it be strange if the name displayed in the awesometab doesn't match what you typed?
11:34:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2049 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Awesometab should filter on all contacts not just preferred buddy
11:36:03 <flo-retina> aleth: the patch in bug 2227 does the opposite of what the bug summary says :-S.
11:36:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2227 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Make possibleChat id a lazy getter
11:41:35 <aleth> flo-retina: It may be strange once we visually highlight the matched string (in which case we should display why it matched), for now I think it's less broken than the desired contact not appearing at all
11:42:15 <flo-retina> aleth: I think it's broken to show the away/offline buddy of the existing conversation if you matched an available display name.
11:42:45 <flo-retina> but maybe we are not trying to fix the same thing :)
11:42:47 <aleth> flo-retina: That's broken because of the way existing conversations are handled, as I mentioned in my comment.
11:43:06 <aleth> Right, I think those are two bugs not one ;)
11:43:46 <flo-retina> aleth: have you already made a space in the query string act like an AND?
11:43:51 <aleth> Yes
11:43:56 <flo-retina> I remember we discussed it, but I don't remember if it got checked in
11:43:57 <flo-retina> great :)
11:44:20 <flo-retina> (that was my other concern with the patch: it would break the stuff we used to do in that case ;))
11:44:45 <flo-retina> but breaking something that doesn't exist any more doesn't seem like a critical problem :)
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11:45:27 <aleth> I agree that patch is a bit hackish and is probably just a temporary fix...
11:46:21 <aleth> (until we really do search all the fields)
11:52:54 <flo-retina> aleth: it's not clear why you still need _id
11:53:01 <flo-retina> you could just this.id = ... and get rid of the getter
11:54:06 <flo-retina> and I would really like nhnt11 to comment on how much work is required to follow my suggestion in the previous comment (as I think that's the real fix, and the current patch is just working around part of the issue)
11:54:08 <aleth> flo-retina: Right. I followed the other possibleThings on that, but it's probably worth changing for all of them
11:54:23 <flo-retina> out of curiosity, why haven't you made the getter lazy?
11:54:40 <nhnt11> flo-retina: this is on bug 2227?
11:54:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2227 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Don't keep recalculating possibleChat ids
11:54:48 <flo-retina> yes
11:54:56 <aleth> flo-retina: Because we'll always request the id at some point, so we might as well calculate it on creation
11:57:53 <flo-retina> heh, I have a folder named objdir^M (^M is a \r) in my mozilla-central tree on linux :)
11:58:11 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(nhnt11@gmail.com) for attachment 2996 on bug 2227.
11:58:12 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 2997 on bug 2227.
11:58:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2227 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Don't keep recalculating possibleChat ids
11:58:55 <flo-retina> aleth: hmm. So why will we needed it? Or is it again because my previous comment hasn't been addressed yet?
12:01:55 <aleth> flo-retina: If it were possible to do something like your previous comment suggests, one might not need it, but I'm not sure.
12:04:25 <aleth> I also think your comment is worth thinking about, maybe together with bug 2185
12:04:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2185 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, New conversation tabs should display items for buddies that aren't contacts.
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15:09:24 <clokep_work> Even, flo-retina: So how goes the server migration?
15:13:04 <flo-retina> clokep_work: still a lot of work todo.
15:13:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: Even got the deadline to be expanded until November 15th
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15:13:31 <flo-retina> clokep_work: but we are still going to try to move most of the important services tonight.
15:14:32 <clokep_work> And these are moving directly to the new "fast" server or the other server that we'll have only temporary?
15:14:35 * clokep_work got confused w/ all the names.
15:15:08 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the plan is to move everything to the temporary server (including the stuff that's currently on the fast server = AIO)
15:15:26 <flo-retina> and then do a clean FreeBSD install on the fast server.
15:16:08 <clokep_work> Ooooo, I see.
15:16:12 <clokep_work> I misunderstood that last time. :)
15:16:45 <flo-retina> I didn't explain that we were reinstalling the fast server too ;)
15:20:03 <clokep_work> Fair enough. :)
15:25:36 <flo-retina> hmm, I'm not actually sure it will be freebsd on the fast server after the reinstall
15:25:57 <flo-retina> our plan is to use something with a VM for each service, so that they are isolated AND easy to move between servers in the future
15:26:12 <flo-retina> that would also let us give admin rights on some VMs to other people :)
15:27:55 <clokep_work> Or even let them download a VM to do things on?
15:28:01 <clokep_work> (Like I could locally have a BZ VM?)
15:29:23 <flo-retina> can't you just install bugzilla locally?
15:29:28 <flo-retina> I can send you a dump of the database
15:29:50 <clokep_work> I could install it in a VM, yes.
15:29:58 <clokep_work> But that's more work for me. ;)
15:29:59 <flo-retina> or without VM
15:30:12 <clokep_work> I wouldn't do that.
15:30:34 <clokep_work> I've been mostly working off a JSON dump anyway
15:32:16 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I was considering putting a copy of our bugzilla that we could safely mess with for the migration work
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15:41:09 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the idea with VMs is mostly to isolate the services that are critical (in the sense that compromising them would let someone install stuff on the machines of all our users). That includes buildbot, the update system, ftp and mercurial. And to isolate stuff that we don't trust (eg. AIO, Socorro).
15:41:22 <flo-retina> The rest would likely all go in a single VM
15:41:30 <EXL> Hello everyone! I have a question. After compiling Firefox on GNU/Linux, you can create a portable-package firefox-VER.LANG.linux-ARCH.tar.bz2, with command "sudo python2 mach package". How to make the same portable-package after compiling Instantbird? Thanks!
15:41:58 <flo-retina> EXL: |make package|
15:42:12 <flo-retina> you'll need to run this in the 'objdir' (the folder where the compilation happened)
15:46:04 <EXL> It's working! Thank you very much! I tried to execute this command from the root directory of the source, there is no such target. Thank you again!
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17:38:48 <flo-retina> oooh https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/ChildNode.remove
17:39:08 <flo-retina> s/foo.parentNode.removeChild(foo)/foo.remove()/ (was just suggested in #developers)
17:39:12 <aleth> about time!
17:39:23 <aleth> ;)
17:40:12 * aleth discovers it's been around since moz23 :-$
17:42:32 <clokep_work> Is that helpful? :)
17:42:40 <clokep_work> Do we do that often?
17:43:13 <aleth> reasonably often http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/search?string=parentnode.removechild
17:43:29 <aleth> But more to the point, it was just ugly...
17:44:26 <flo-retina> aleth: I suspect there are more (where the parent was kept in a variable so that we could .removeChild)
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18:41:26 <flo-retina> clokep_work: btw for the moz25 update... we also need to ensure it still works with gmake on Windows :-/
18:42:08 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Right...I guess I can try that tonight. Why did we not switch to pymake btw?
18:42:20 <flo-retina> because it doesn't work
18:42:30 <flo-retina> and our patch to fix it was r-'ed because it didn't have a test
18:44:13 <aleth> There was talk of something called mozmake recently on #maildev
18:45:46 <flo-retina> yeah
18:46:09 <flo-retina> they killed pymake and are using a customized gmake 4.0 (ie. mozmake)
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19:08:25 <clokep_work> Yeah, I don't think it's in that mozilla build package yet though.
19:10:08 <aleth> This was the link https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.builds/58ch7ADjv9o
19:11:00 <aleth> Sounds like it's somewhat unofficial as yet...
19:12:40 <clokep_work> Not really, it's turned back on in m-c.
19:13:19 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=925605 is fixed.
19:13:39 <aleth> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=927213
19:14:36 <aleth> Whatever, maybe it will help ;)
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19:17:02 <clokep_work> Yeah, yeah.
19:17:05 * clokep_work CC'd himself.
19:17:23 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So if moz25 builds on Windows w/ gmake...do we want to try other OSes or roll the dice?
19:18:21 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I want use to finish (most of) the server migration first
19:18:26 <flo-retina> *us
19:18:43 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I'll likely check on Mac, and we can roll the dice for Linux
19:19:46 <clokep_work> Yahtzee!
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22:27:17 <flo-retina> FYI, I stopped apache on the old server as I want to get a dump of the database, install it on the new server, and switch the DNS to there immediately
22:27:32 <flo-retina> *immediately after importing the updated databases
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22:42:36 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2997 on bug 2227.
22:42:43 <flo-retina> \o/
22:42:46 <flo-retina> Even:  :-)
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22:57:01 <flo-retina> {hg, ftp, bugzilla, wiki, update, pastebin}.instantbird.org have now moved.
22:57:12 <flo-retina> they should work exactly like before.
22:57:29 <clokep> :)
22:57:35 * clokep goes to hit all of them at once.
22:57:37 <flo-retina> You may notice that bugzilla is a bit (a lot?) faster. The server we moved to is on significantly faster hardware.
22:57:50 <flo-retina> clokep: I just updated the DNS now, so it may take 5 minutes before you can access them.
22:58:02 <clokep> :)
22:58:20 <flo-retina> I stopped apache on the old server, so you'll definitely notice if you hit the old server :-P
22:58:45 * flo-retina didn't want people commenting on the old bugzilla after the final database import on the new one
22:59:25 <clokep> Makes sense. ;)
22:59:30 <flo-retina> buildbot has _not_ moved yet. But we edited the configuration so that new nightlies are uploaded to the new server. Of course we won't know if that actually works until we see a successful nightly ;).
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23:08:53 <flo-retina> clokep: does it seem to work from your end?
23:08:59 <clokep> flo-retina: No.
23:09:31 <clokep> hg.instantbird.org seems to work.
23:09:36 <clokep> ftp and bio don't
23:10:44 <flo-retina> uh, bugzilla and wiki had DNS entries configured to stay cached 8 hours :(
23:11:11 <flo-retina> http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/ works for me
23:11:31 <clokep> That works.
23:11:42 <clokep> I don't have much time for IB stuff tonight anyway, so not messing me up. :)
23:12:03 <flo-retina> okay
23:12:12 <Mook_as> bugzilla, wiki work for me; ftp doesn't
23:12:30 <flo-retina> Mook_as: are you sure you used http://ftp ?
23:12:30 <Mook_as> oh, ftp over http does
23:12:49 <flo-retina> Mook_as: Firefox will automatically try ftp:// for hostnames starting with ftp :-(
23:13:05 <Mook_as> umm, yes. since that's what the server name seems to want to say...
23:13:13 <flo-retina> yeah...
23:13:22 <flo-retina> btw, this "new" FTP contains nightlies since 2008 ;)
23:17:46 <clokep> That's useful. :P
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23:43:06 <flo-retina> clokep: you dislike history? :-o
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