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00:18:19 <-- goofy has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:28:10 <instantbot> email@example.com denied review for attachment 2984 on bug 2186. 00:28:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2186 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, [a11y] [regression] Mutation observers don't prevent firing two a11y focus events 00:31:14 <-- qlum has quit (Client exited) 00:44:30 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:15:22 <clokep> flo-retina: My tests failed to build.. :( 01:16:36 <-- dew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 01:17:07 --> dew has joined #instantbird 01:40:41 <clokep> My failure: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/408634 01:40:45 <clokep> I'll check it out tomorrow. 01:48:56 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 02:10:16 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:41:49 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 03:20:02 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 03:20:39 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 04:04:26 <instant-buildbot> build #1016 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1016 04:17:12 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 04:17:16 --> dew has joined #instantbird 04:18:46 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 04:22:30 <instant-buildbot> build #1072 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1072 04:55:21 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 04:56:06 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 05:52:51 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 06:14:34 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 06:15:18 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:37:23 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:39:51 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 06:42:53 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:44:47 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 06:54:26 <-- eson57 has quit (Quit: eson57) 06:55:14 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 06:55:24 <-- eson57 has quit (Quit: eson57) 06:55:57 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 06:56:14 <-- eson57 has left #instantbird () 06:58:30 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 07:06:15 <-- eson57 has left #instantbird () 07:08:28 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 07:08:32 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:22:15 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 07:22:21 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:33:53 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:33:53 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 07:34:11 <instant-buildbot> build #1138 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1138 07:34:26 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 07:34:59 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:35:01 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 07:35:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:29:07 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:29:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:34:04 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:34:10 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:43:46 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 08:47:46 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 09:17:46 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:25:11 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 09:26:08 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:46:04 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:46:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:46:58 <aleth> a moz.built nightly :) Congrats on getting this to work! 09:46:59 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 09:47:10 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:47:10 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:49:36 <-- jb1 has quit (Quit: jb1) 09:50:23 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:50:23 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 09:52:15 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 10:14:35 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:16:54 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:17:25 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:19:13 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:19:13 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:28:53 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:32:47 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 10:35:49 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:37:32 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 10:41:35 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 10:48:23 <flo-retina> clokep: how did you moz25 build go yesterday? 10:49:15 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:51:10 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:52:00 <clokep> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m5 10:52:17 <flo-retina> Arg, the latest nightly was uploaded to a crazy nightly/----instantbird/ repository :'( 10:52:26 * clokep wonders if Not Today! works again yet. 10:52:35 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 10:52:41 <clokep> Mic: ^ 10:53:07 <flo-retina> our code is likely failing to get the build id 10:53:15 <flo-retina> regression from the build system changes obviously 10:53:20 <flo-retina> really, just what I needed today :( 10:58:33 <clokep> Can you just move them for now / the next few days and fix the script later? 11:02:44 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:10:03 <flo-retina> clokep: that seems like more work ;) 11:25:30 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 11:49:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Depends how hard it is to fix the build code. ;) 11:49:55 <flo-retina> why would it be hard? 11:50:36 <flo-retina> btw, we may want to just turn off nightlies during server migrations 11:53:46 <clokep_work> Yes we might want to do that. 11:53:57 <clokep_work> If we're not checking things in...doesn't seem useful to have them on. 11:57:41 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the build failure in your pastebin looks a lot like you want to port http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-beta/rev/c5397c5f0faf 11:58:28 <clokep_work> Thanks. 12:01:31 <clokep_work> Looks like I've looked at that bug before. ;) 12:06:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:06:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:06:43 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 12:13:28 <clokep_work> I'll try that out when I get home. 12:33:42 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:51:26 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 12:53:51 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:56:01 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 13:06:32 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:09:55 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:38:33 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:36:19 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 14:43:35 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 15:24:58 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:25:14 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 15:27:14 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 16:03:03 * mconley is now known as mconley|lunch 16:04:37 <-- rosonline has quit (No route to host) 16:25:14 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:45:23 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:57:48 * mconley|lunch is now known as mconley 17:01:26 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:40:50 --> xWhiplash has joined #instantbird 17:40:56 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 17:42:36 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 17:43:09 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 17:54:19 <-- xWhiplash has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:54:30 --> xWhiplash has joined #instantbird 17:58:18 <xWhiplash> elo there... 17:58:44 <xWhiplash> Is possible to define different status for a different protocol? 18:04:44 <-- xWhiplash has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:05:00 --> xWhiplash has joined #instantbird 18:05:19 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:05:23 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Input/output error) 18:05:28 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:11:52 <clokep_work> xWhiplash: You mean status messages? 18:12:23 <xWhiplash> I mean "Away, bussy, etc" 18:12:27 <clokep_work> The backend supports that, but we do not support it in the UI. 18:13:08 <xWhiplash> backend? 18:15:26 <clokep_work> There's a bunch of code that handles the differences between different protocols. 18:15:35 <clokep_work> The code that DOES NOT deal with the interface. 18:16:32 <xWhiplash> i understand 18:20:08 <clokep_work> So it could be done via an extension "fairly" easily. 18:20:14 <clokep_work> The tough part would be coming up with an interface. 18:21:16 <xWhiplash> so, interface can only show "avaiable and unavailable" all the time? 18:21:44 <xWhiplash> and for all protocols 18:22:01 <clokep_work> The way we designed the interface it gives the same status to all of your accounts, yes. "Available", "Unavailable" or "Offline". 18:22:36 <xWhiplash> another question... 18:23:06 <xWhiplash> is there a way to stop counting messages in irc channels 18:23:13 <xWhiplash> I mean, in contact list 18:23:46 <xWhiplash> I would like if the channel's names could just get bold or something 18:23:55 <xWhiplash> without counting 18:29:03 <flo-retina> out of curiosity, why is the message count annoying you? 18:32:37 <xWhiplash> It's an useless info. I would rather see only that some channel is active, than to be irritated by growing number whole the time. 18:33:08 <xWhiplash> it's especially bad when there are tons of new messages in IRC channels. 18:33:27 <flo-retina> why is it irritating? 18:33:46 <xWhiplash> Cause it's too explicit. 18:34:00 <flo-retina> (I find it useful to see if there's only a handful messages, or hundreds of them) 18:34:04 <xWhiplash> and it just takes my focus. 18:34:14 <flo-retina> so it's seeing the number change that annoys you? 18:34:24 <xWhiplash> it has a sense with the msn maybe. 18:34:37 <xWhiplash> exactly 18:35:00 <xWhiplash> In some of my IRC channels, there are hunderds people writing stuff 18:35:09 <xWhiplash> so, it's a mess 18:35:21 <xWhiplash> growing numbers mean nothing to me 18:36:32 <xWhiplash> It's too bad that this software doesn't care more about IRC protocol. 18:36:59 <xWhiplash> I expected it to have its own advanced "highlighting" options. 18:37:28 <clokep_work> xWhiplash: I find that kind of insulting, but have you seen https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/250? 18:37:56 <xWhiplash> I already downloaded that. 18:38:04 <clokep_work> OK. 18:38:10 <flo-retina> xWhiplash: I also think "this software doesn't care more about IRC protocol." is close to insulting; when it's the protocol that has received the most attention during the last 2 years. 18:38:28 <xWhiplash> but it's just too simple 18:38:39 <xWhiplash> with no enough possibilities 18:38:48 <flo-retina> xWhiplash: it's *purposefully* simple, and making things look simple is actually very difficult. 18:39:30 <xWhiplash> The problem is that it's not just simple, but also useless. 18:41:29 <flo-retina> so what's missing? 18:42:14 <xWhiplash> The way I want it to notify me at first. 18:42:51 <flo-retina> ... 18:43:33 <flo-retina> you know there's just no way for me (or anybody else) to guess what's the way YOU want to be notified if you don't explain it, right? 18:44:13 <xWhiplash> for example: system try icon flashing, chat window pops up etc. 18:44:25 <xWhiplash> tray* 18:44:50 <xWhiplash> Don't understand me wrong... 18:45:03 <xWhiplash> some of the stuff are pretty cool here... 18:45:20 <xWhiplash> they just need some polishing 18:45:27 <clokep_work> Aren't all those things supported already? :-S 18:45:38 <clokep_work> Well not the system tray flashing, but you can get the pop up windows. 18:46:16 <xWhiplash> and when my mother is using my PC, she will see it - that's not a nice situation...:D 18:46:44 <xWhiplash> especially if you have friends like the ones I do. :D 18:47:20 <xWhiplash> flashing system try is more intuitive, which is good 18:47:26 <xWhiplash> tray icon* 18:47:47 <flo-retina> wait, are you saying you want the systray icon to flash when your mother is in front of your computer, so that she's sure to notice what they talk about? 18:47:53 <Mook_as> you might want to consider locking the machine (as in screen saver etc) with different user accounts in that case. 18:48:38 <xWhiplash> the trick is that nobody would click on the system tray icon just like that 18:48:47 <xWhiplash> that's why i like it 18:48:53 <xWhiplash> it informs only me 18:50:51 <xWhiplash> I'm not sure if it would be "advertising" if I mention the software where that thing is done nicelly. 18:51:16 <clokep_work> If it explains what you want, it's reasonable. 18:51:24 <clokep_work> But I agree with Florian, this sounds like an OS level thing. 18:51:39 <xWhiplash> it's freeware, so i guess it's ok... 18:51:54 <xWhiplash> Miranda IM for example 18:52:38 <Mook_as> actually, it's open source, so you can make your changes locally :) 18:53:07 <xWhiplash> y, wrong word 18:53:10 <xWhiplash> :p 18:53:46 <clokep_work> The taskbar blinking is too much though? You can disable that. 18:53:54 <clokep_work> (And even re-enable it if you want when you come back.) 18:55:16 <xWhiplash> and I could miss a lot of things in the meanwhile :) 18:55:36 <xWhiplash> that's just not good solution 18:56:07 <flo-retina> you are afraid you may miss the messages that arrive while your mom is in front of the computer? 18:56:21 <xWhiplash> yeah :D 18:56:47 <xWhiplash> not messages, but the keywords :D 18:57:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:57:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 18:58:00 <clokep_work> It sounds like you want the software to know what you're thinking. :-/ 18:58:03 <Mic> You want to be notified when certain keywords are said? 18:58:10 <xWhiplash> flashing taskbar and window pops-up are just too aggressive compared to system tray. 18:58:56 <nhnt11> So you want something subtle enough that your mom won't notice, but you will when she's done with the computer? 18:59:17 <xWhiplash> I wouldn't suggest you anything that I already haven't see. 18:59:49 <xWhiplash> mIRC is using system tray nicely too. 18:59:58 <xWhiplash> and also the Pidgin. 19:00:04 <clokep_work> I really wish the system tray would just die. 19:00:05 * clokep_work sighs. 19:00:12 <xWhiplash> :D 19:00:43 <clokep_work> Are you on Windows 7? 19:01:19 <xWhiplash> nope 19:01:24 <xWhiplash> XP still 19:01:31 <clokep_work> Hm. OK. 19:01:38 <clokep_work> I was going to ask if the iocn changing, but not flashing would be enough. 19:01:42 <clokep_work> (In the taskbar.) 19:02:34 <xWhiplash> icon changing instead of flashing (in the system tray) would be even better! 19:02:41 <Mic> What about the DND addon and minimizing to tray? 19:16:24 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:16:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:23:59 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 19:24:04 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:24:04 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:27:34 <-- xWhiplash has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:41:48 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:42:13 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 19:44:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:59:04 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 20:00:32 --> xWhiplash has joined #instantbird 20:15:52 <xWhiplash> clokep_work: you're probably opened all the IRC channels as tabs and using them like that? In that case, yeah, current highlighting add-on has sense. 20:16:56 <clokep_work> xWhiplash: No. I usually only have two IRC channels in tabs. 20:17:08 <clokep_work> But if you get pinged in a different channel than it pops up. 20:17:21 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 20:18:10 <xWhiplash> I understand. But I prefer running programs on my PC on the way that nobody can notice them. 20:19:11 <clokep_work> Just disable the notifying in the taskbar then. 20:20:22 <xWhiplash> Losing highlighting is a big hit for me. 20:20:56 <clokep_work> Maybe I don't understand what "highlighting" means. 20:21:41 <xWhiplash> I mean "losing ability to be called with a certain string (word part)". 20:21:59 <clokep_work> Didn't you just say you installed the extension that does it? :-S 20:22:01 <xWhiplash> My friends are using it a lot. 20:23:10 <xWhiplash> Yes, but if i disable notifying in the taskbar (as you suggested), then highlighting is useless 20:23:34 <xWhiplash> it's not just enough to see bold word 20:23:47 <xWhiplash> i need some other sign 20:24:02 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 20:24:06 <xWhiplash> like secret flashing 20:24:09 <clokep_work> Make an extension that listens to the notification and texts you or something. :P 20:24:28 <flo-retina> reboot the computer whenever an highlighted keyword is received 20:24:30 <flo-retina> you'll notice! 20:24:35 <flo-retina> and nobody else will know it's related :) 20:24:35 <xWhiplash> That's your job. :p 20:25:08 <xWhiplash> So, clokep, you're one of developers? 20:25:17 <xWhiplash> flo, you too? 20:25:52 <clokep_work> Yes, we're both developers. 20:26:03 <xWhiplash> cool 20:26:03 <flo-retina> and it's not our job to make things flash secretly :-P 20:26:19 <xWhiplash> Now you know what's next thing to put on the roadmap :p 20:26:36 <flo-retina> yeah, secretly kicking you :-P 20:26:43 <flo-retina> so that you don't know where it's coming from :) 20:26:48 <xWhiplash> :D 20:27:31 <xWhiplash> And, also... 20:28:05 <xWhiplash> When all channels are opened as tabs...there is no message counting anymore :p 20:28:22 <xWhiplash> but that's a bad solution still :p 20:29:19 <flo-retina> if you minimize the contacts window to tray, there's no counting any more ;) 20:29:25 <Mook_as> hrm, I get message counting for opened channels. but then, I'm using thunderbird... :p 20:29:47 <xWhiplash> It's nice to see that tab name just gets red color when the channel is active. 20:29:52 <flo-retina> Mook_as: they are not in tabs :-P 20:30:08 <xWhiplash> That's how channel names should look like on the contact list too ;) 20:30:13 <flo-retina> xWhiplash: what about you make it look like you want? 20:30:42 <xWhiplash> You mean: what about I learn some programming first? :p 20:30:58 <xWhiplash> I'm not going to take your job. :p 20:31:30 <flo-retina> I'm curious of what you think my job is. 20:31:39 <Mook_as> flo-retina: whew, your $0-per-year job is safe! 20:32:05 <flo-retina> Mook_as: -$5000-per-year is closer to reality 20:32:19 <xWhiplash> Well, I think I gave you a good friendly suggestions. 20:32:49 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:33:13 <xWhiplash> One another newbish question... 20:33:33 <xWhiplash> How do you quote each other like that? 20:33:36 <flo-retina> xWhiplash: and I can suggest as friendly that you implement it yourself. 20:33:41 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 20:33:51 <flo-retina> xWhiplash: it's super easy, and we are open to helping you do it 20:34:07 <flo-retina> xWhiplash: type the first letter of a nick then press the tab key 20:34:12 <xWhiplash> Does it has anything with system tray :p 20:34:36 <xWhiplash> have* 20:35:17 <xWhiplash> or do I have to download a plugin for that too? :p 20:36:01 * flo-retina is starting to consider not-so-secretly kicking you. 20:36:34 <xWhiplash> Come on :D 20:36:40 <xWhiplash> It's so easy to make you mad. 20:37:06 <xWhiplash> So, can I get the answer? 20:37:12 <xWhiplash> may* 20:37:22 <xWhiplash> damn English. 20:37:34 <Mook_as> it is difficult to get answers to questions people don't understand. 20:38:11 <xWhiplash> Are you quoting manually? 20:38:19 <xWhiplash> or there is an easier way? 20:38:57 <xWhiplash> ah 20:39:03 <xWhiplash> You already answered 20:39:05 <xWhiplash> sorry 20:39:40 <xWhiplash> flo-retina: totally newbish...but thanx. 20:40:36 <flo-retina> Mook_as: it's also difficult to answer questions twice without knowing the first answer has been blatantly ignored :-P. 20:41:01 <xWhiplash> :D 20:41:15 <xWhiplash> It's hard to fallow you. 20:43:28 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:53:04 * flo-retina wonders what http://www3.instantbird.com/ is, featuring v1.0 :-S 21:01:03 <xWhiplash> You mean this: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/211 21:03:48 <flo-retina> that www3 server is not even in our (Even/me) control, it turns out it's the same server has the one running Instantbot :). Anyway, not affected by the ongoing migration :) 21:05:20 <Mook_as> I hope you at least have control of the DNS ;) 21:07:47 <flo-retina> Mook_as: I do! 21:14:26 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:14:26 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 21:20:51 <clokep> xWhiplash: You don't need that extension to add in system tray support anymore. 21:23:48 <clokep> flo-retina: Let me know if I can help in the merge at all. 21:25:13 <clokep> xWhiplash: Btw we really design in such a way to make the program a pleasure to use for the vast majority of our users and ensure that it's easily extensible for those who dislike a feature. 21:26:35 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:28:41 <clokep> Bah my build failed again.. 21:29:05 <clokep> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/410060 21:36:07 <flo-retina> clokep: I think I would try tweaking this line: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleDNS.h#17 21:36:26 <flo-retina> try making it "struct purpleDNSRequest: public nsIDNSListener" (add the "public" keyword) 21:36:48 <clokep> Sure, what's that do? 21:42:45 <clokep> Failed again... 21:43:12 <flo-retina> same error? 21:43:36 <clokep> Tooo many tabs open... 21:43:38 <clokep> One second. 21:43:46 <EionRobb> can a struct extend an abstract class? I thought only a class could do that? 21:44:10 <flo-retina> EionRobb: replacing "struct" with "class" is the next thing I wanted to try 21:44:13 <Mook_as> a struct, in C++, is just a default-public class 21:44:14 <clokep> Yes, same error. 21:44:34 <flo-retina> EionRobb: yeah, I remember "struct = class but public by default" 21:45:33 <clokep> s/struct/class/ didn't help either. 21:45:36 <clokep> (I still have the public there too.) 21:46:00 <flo-retina> pastebin the preprocessed file? 21:46:19 <flo-retina> make -C objdir/purplexpcom/src/ purpleDNS.i 21:46:48 <clokep> You read my mind. ;) 21:47:11 <clokep> Bleh it's 5 MB...this won't be good. 21:47:17 <clokep> Since Komodo isn't even liking it... 21:47:35 <flo-retina> you were going to ask how to get one? :) 21:47:54 <clokep> Yes. 21:48:02 <clokep> I knew it had to do w/ a .i ;) 21:49:03 <Mook_as> yeah, sorry, komodo isn't very good with files that large 21:53:16 <clokep> flo-retina: It won't pastebin, can I email it? 21:53:19 <clokep> (Anyone else want it? :P) 21:53:31 <flo-retina> can't you pastebin the relevant part? 21:54:00 <clokep> That's more work for me. ;) 21:54:00 <clokep> Yeah, let me wait for Komodo to open it again... 21:54:08 <flo-retina> just use emacs ;) 21:54:17 <flo-retina> it deals with large files quite decently 21:54:29 <clokep> Just use emacs they said...and then all of a sudden you're using IRC and answering encrypted email in it. 21:54:34 <flo-retina> sometimes it warns you "are you sure you really want to open this 100MB file?" 21:54:56 <flo-retina> and then proceeds without further annoying you :) 21:55:08 <flo-retina> clokep: look for what seems to be the preprocessed version of http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleDNS.cpp#114 21:55:23 <clokep> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/410061 look like the right part? 21:55:38 <clokep> Hmm...OK. 21:55:44 <flo-retina> no 21:56:00 <Mook_as> for big files I usually just use (g)vim 21:56:01 <flo-retina> pastebin something that contains "Canceling by query_data: not found" and "purpleDNSRequest::Failed(const char *aMsg)" 21:57:10 <clokep> Yeah, working on it. :) 21:57:24 <Mook_as> clokep: is this... gecko 27? 21:57:29 <clokep> Mook_as: 25. 21:57:34 <Mook_as> okay 21:59:16 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:59:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:00:31 <clokep> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/410073 22:00:33 <clokep> Mook_as: ^ 22:01:08 <Mook_as> clokep: try: 22:01:08 <Mook_as> #ifndef NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1 22:01:08 <Mook_as> #error pants 22:01:08 <Mook_as> #endif 22:01:45 * Mook_as can't remember when that landed... 22:01:53 <clokep> Mook_as: That errored, yes. 22:01:58 <Mook_as> yay 22:02:15 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:02:19 <clokep> Was that removed? 22:02:31 <Mook_as> yes, gimme a minute 22:02:42 <clokep> Thanks. :) 22:03:08 <Mook_as> you want something like https://github.com/Komodo/KomodoEdit/commit/30515e0d552e79545fe439d47a4669438045ccf9#diff-e9b2b7685befdc417494bacbb8b3d744 22:03:13 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 22:05:11 <clokep> Any idea of what bug that was? 22:07:29 <Mook_as> err... 22:08:13 <Mook_as> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884061 ? 22:09:16 <clokep> Yeah, that's the one I'm reading now. 22:09:27 <clokep> I guess...can I just change it to non-threadsafe ones? Doesn't that like change...things...? 22:09:28 <Mook_as> guess how I got the bug number ;) 22:09:42 <Mook_as> no, you want to make it use the other way to declare atomic stuff 22:09:49 <Mook_as> see the linked diff 22:10:13 <clokep> Ah, in your commit message. 22:10:32 <clokep> "no, you want to make it use the other way to declare atomic stuff" What? 22:10:41 <clokep> Linked diff being the github komodo one you sent? 22:11:14 <Mook_as> right 22:11:23 <Mook_as> NS_DECL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS 22:11:55 <clokep> OHHHHHHHH That patches an .h file. 22:11:59 <clokep> I didn't realize that. :) 22:12:13 <clokep> Sorry. 22:12:15 * clokep is dumb. 22:12:41 <Mook_as> you're just trying to make me feel less lonely over here in dumbland 22:15:19 <clokep> Maybe. :) 22:16:19 <clokep> Thanks Mook. :) 22:17:35 <Mook_as> you're welcome. 22:17:50 <clokep> Let's see if /instantbird compiles now... 22:18:52 <flo-retina> :) 22:19:01 <flo-retina> glad you figured out while I was busy in other tabs :) 22:20:02 --> clokep_js has joined #instantbird 22:20:08 <clokep_js> Hello from Mozilla 25! 22:20:25 <-- clokep_js has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:20:57 <flo-retina> clokep: \o/ 22:21:07 <clokep> flo-retina: I'm testing libpurple now... 22:21:33 <clokep> I can connect my AIM account at least... 22:21:52 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:22:00 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:22:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:22:25 <clokep> Well that was the wrong buddy list to x out of. :) 22:27:24 <flo-retina> :) 22:28:11 <clokep> Quick, if we update now and release it'll be out before Firefox 25! 22:28:16 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2989 on bug 2034. 22:28:26 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:28:52 <Mic> clokep: when is Fx25 due? Tomorrow? 22:28:52 <clokep> Yes. 22:28:52 <Mic> :D 22:28:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2034 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update to Mozilla 25 22:29:06 <clokep> Thanks instantbot only a few minutes late there. 22:32:11 <flo-retina> clokep: patch looks good 22:32:23 <flo-retina> I don't think we should take a moz update until the server stuff is figured out though 22:32:29 <clokep> I understand. :) 22:32:35 <clokep> But I had to keep myself busy somehow. 22:32:37 <flo-retina> and I/we should fix that build folder name 22:32:46 <flo-retina> :) 22:32:59 <flo-retina> this evening I'll do some cleanup on the existing server 22:33:07 <flo-retina> transfer the data of ftp.ib.* to the new server 22:33:43 <flo-retina> and try to do some planning on the etherpad (which sub domains can we kill? which services need to be moved asap? which services can stay down for a few days, ...) 22:34:07 <clokep> Can we kill the staging servers? :-/ 22:34:14 <clokep> s/servers/subdomains/ 22:35:13 <flo-retina> no 22:35:35 <flo-retina> but I'm considering killing the dl,download,img domains 22:37:17 <Mook_as> as opposed to making the first two a cname to ftp? 22:37:35 <flo-retina> Mook_as: they were not really the same thing 22:38:01 <flo-retina> Mook_as: they were sub parts of the main website 22:38:04 <Mook_as> right 22:38:18 <flo-retina> when we (I?) expected that to make the website scale, we could put parts (like images) on different servers 22:38:19 <Mook_as> I'm just saying it might be useful to have them point to the download server instead 22:38:48 <Mook_as> (and not backwards-compat, etc) 22:38:50 <flo-retina> it turns out we are not doing that. We are keeping all the downloads on the same place, and just using a .htaccess file to redirect the current release only to code.google.com 22:43:35 <xWhiplash> Sorry for off your topic, but...shouldn't highlighting work with that quoting too? 22:43:51 <clokep> "that quoting"? 22:43:58 <clokep> I don't understand what you mean. 22:44:05 <xWhiplash> clokep: you said something 22:44:14 <xWhiplash> that quoting 22:44:17 <clokep> Yes, I'm pinged automatically you don't need an extension for that. 22:44:25 <clokep> (That's frequently called "pinging" btw.) 22:44:55 <xWhiplash> do it to me pls 22:45:20 <xWhiplash> just for test 22:45:23 <EionRobb> xWhiplash: ping 22:45:29 <xWhiplash> ah 22:45:31 <xWhiplash> i see 22:45:33 <xWhiplash> sorry 22:46:28 <flo-retina> http://mxr.instantbird.org/ can likely just die for now 22:46:33 * clokep goes to port more moz.build stuff... 22:46:45 <clokep> You mean lxr, right? 22:47:17 <flo-retina> no, lxr is critical, but lives on a different server (on mine) 22:47:29 <clokep> mxr.instantbird.org is a 403. 22:47:32 <flo-retina> I really mean the mxr subdomain that seems to point to something that never got setup 22:47:59 <clokep> Ah. 22:48:08 <clokep> pastebin can wait a while, we can use pastebin.mozilla.org if need be. 22:48:52 <flo-retina> I put it in critical because I expected we may want to access stuff that's in it 22:48:59 <clokep> Oh, good point. 22:49:21 <flo-retina> but yeah, it can likely wait a day or two 22:57:57 <-- xWhiplash has quit (Client exited) 23:01:41 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 23:01:47 --> dew has joined #instantbird 23:09:06 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:14:32 <clokep> So you have options, should I port more of the moz.build stuff that's already been done to chat in c-c or work on the BIO->BMO stuff. 23:16:50 <flo-retina> BIMO :) 23:26:08 * clokep sighs. 23:26:10 <clokep> I knew you were going to say that. 23:46:02 <flo-retina> clokep: but: 1. Don't stress too much the server; we need it to still work (especially as we are migrating it ;)) 2. Remember to do stuff that you enjoy doing :). 23:46:27 * clokep wonders if him hitting the server just messed things up. :P 23:46:41 <clokep> flo-retina: Yes, I know. :) I'm at least documenting it so hopefully other people understand WTF it does. 23:46:46 <clokep> (And taking my credentials outta it.) 23:48:05 <clokep> More of just I feel like I don't know what else to do. :(