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10:23:38 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2965 on bug 2165.
10:23:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp
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12:45:49 <aleth> Why isn't #developers listed in the awesometab? :-S
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13:10:36 <flo-retina> aleth: it's an hidden channel
13:11:07 <aleth> Ah, that explains it then :)
13:11:22 <flo-retina> aleth: so I guess listing it would require the same thing as listing nicks of previous private irc conversations with people not in your list
13:11:39 <flo-retina> + do some magic for the chat room fields
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13:11:55 <aleth> Right, it's a known bug then.
13:12:29 <flo-retina> aleth: bug 2226 really looks invalid to me
13:12:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2226 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Message displayed on receiving an add request is misleading
13:12:42 <aleth> I think it needs more information
13:12:58 <flo-retina> with a @mailinator address, it likely won't get any
13:13:37 <flo-retina> I think what the user would _really_ want is us to display more info about who's adding you (eg. display name, buddy icon, protocol, account name...)
13:13:38 <aleth> Not from the bug reporter, but on how yahoo should behave
13:14:24 <flo-retina> and I suspect we already have a bug for that
13:14:36 <flo-retina> the proposed "new strings" look like regressions to me.
13:14:36 <Mic> Yes, I'm pretty sure that we do.
13:14:47 <aleth> flo-retina: There's a lot of things that are not great about that UX, but the narrow issue of the string being misleading isn't wrong.
13:15:01 <aleth> That doesn't mean the solution is to change the string ;)
13:15:17 <flo-retina> ""allow this person to subscribe to my presence info?"" is technical jargon (why would a user understand "subscribe to presence") that seems XMPP specific.
13:15:45 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't see how the string is misleading
13:16:04 <aleth> That's what I meant about the need for more, possibly protocol-specific info
13:16:26 <flo-retina> we purposefully don't make this protocol specific
13:16:28 <aleth> There is a real issue about what users may believe about what happens when they accept and what actually happens
13:17:36 <aleth> I can tell there is a real issue because I have no idea either what the expected behaviour is here ;)
13:17:41 <Mic> "would like to talk to you" really sounds misleading.
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13:18:57 <Mic> It seems to be implying "now".
13:19:25 <flo-retina> Mic: it doesn't to me.
13:19:28 <aleth> Personally I hate it when programs throw up a vaguely worded dialog, giving me responsibility without making it clear what I am agreeing to.
13:19:58 <aleth> Mic: I agree.
13:20:00 <flo-retina> Mic: it's extremely likely that the person wants to talk to you now btw, if they just added you
13:20:25 <Mic> I haven't had a non-spam-request for a new contact in month to be honest. 
13:20:29 <flo-retina> Mic: if this appears when connecting the account; then the person likely wanted to talk to you at the time, and didn't get a timely reply
13:21:48 <flo-retina> aleth: well, it's vague at the protocol level too. The only thing we really know is that by clicking "agree" (or "accept"; I don't remember the button's label), you make it more easy for that person to talk to you.
13:22:37 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes, we may be limited by what the protocol allows. XMPP is certainly more finegrained than most.
13:22:46 <Mic> "<username> wants to make it easier to talk to you." ? :P
13:23:08 <flo-retina> aleth: btw, I think the current string is inspired (if not directly copied) from gtalk
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13:35:21 <flo-retina> I wonder if there's any cool stuff to work on (the week-end is very rainy ;))
13:35:51 <aleth> There's always cool stuff to work on :)
13:36:40 <flo-retina> ah, I need to look at that Tb add-on :(
13:37:05 <flo-retina> I was also considering the moz.build stuff and the configure.in stuff, but that doesn't really qualify as "cool" ;)
13:37:07 <aleth> Maybe less cool, but makes a lot of people happy, so... ;)
13:37:23 <flo-retina> which one?
13:37:36 <aleth> The former
13:37:50 <flo-retina> the Tb add-on didn't seem to make people happy; it just made plenty of unhappy people when it wasn't compatible
13:38:12 <flo-retina> aleth: I suspect what demotivates me is that I can't make these people un-unhappy
13:38:29 <flo-retina> because even if I release the add-on, it will be blocked in the AMO moderation queue because it's binary
13:38:36 <flo-retina> for possibly a month...
13:38:49 <aleth> That's very long :(
13:39:15 <flo-retina> AMO is very frustrating
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14:22:59 <Mic> Should participants have a "Tags..." submenu in their context menu when they are already added to the contact list?
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14:45:34 <clokep> Hello.
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15:40:41 <aleth> It's really annoying that opening a channel from the awesometab opens it, but doesn't give it focus :-/
15:41:20 <aleth> nhnt11 mentioned it a long time ago, but the more you use it, the more it is true ;)
15:44:10 <flo-retina> aleth: are you fixing it now? ;)
15:44:48 <aleth> No, I am taking another look at bug 1572, and getting a bit frustrated
15:44:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Contacts added directly to "Other Contacts" don't show until collapsed/expanded
15:45:24 <aleth> Mainly because I don't know that code I guess, so it doesn't go the way I expect :P
15:48:14 <flo-retina> that code is a mess :(
15:48:49 <aleth> bit of a labyrinth...
15:49:00 <flo-retina> if I remember correctly, it's a bit unfortunate that there are 2 different kinds of events that have the same name in there
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15:57:20 <aleth> flo-retina: re the buffering of incoming data to avoid jank, is there a flag on the streams we can just set for that?
16:00:42 <flo-retina> the stream isn't the problem
16:01:01 <flo-retina> we are taking all the incoming data out of it, then splitting it, then processing everything synchronously
16:01:44 <flo-retina> aleth: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/socket.jsm#391
16:01:51 <aleth> Ah, so the stream itself is already nonblocking
16:03:57 <aleth> Yet another place where we should add yet another queue :-/
16:08:39 <flo-retina> yeah...
16:20:04 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2966 on bug 1572.
16:20:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Contacts added directly to "Other Contacts" don't show until collapsed/expanded
16:29:14 <flo-retina> heh, that patch looks trivial!
16:29:15 <flo-retina> :)
16:29:39 <aleth> Yes :)
16:29:54 <aleth> (you should have seen the intermediate versions... :P)
16:30:54 * flo-retina is happy he hasn't seen them
16:31:08 * aleth is happy he could delete them
16:31:14 <flo-retina> aleth: now that it looks so trivial, I almost feel bad for not fixing this a year ago ;)
16:31:30 <flo-retina> aleth: but anyway, I'm happy it's going to be fixed soon :)
16:32:14 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2966 on bug 1572.
16:32:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Contacts added directly to "Other Contacts" don't show until collapsed/expanded
16:35:29 <flo-retina> btw, this is yet another part of the code that badly needs unit tests!
16:38:08 <aleth> Yeah...
16:50:50 <qheaden> Hello everyone.
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17:14:59 <flo-retina> aleth: should we list somewhere (or maybe just file bugs?) for parts of the code that are fragile and really need tests?
17:16:08 <aleth> you mean like an arewetestedyet.com? ;)
17:17:48 <aleth> Should it be bugs, or a metabug?
17:18:57 <flo-retina> I was initially thinking about an etherpad
17:19:18 <flo-retina> but then thought that just adding a "testing" component somewhere with requests for tests that are badly needed would be more actionable
17:19:30 <flo-retina> (I suspect if we just used an etherpad we would forget it relatively quickly)
17:34:34 <flo-retina> bah, why is that linux build rebuilding from scratch :(
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17:42:34 <flo-retina> the external wifi antenna of my desktop linux machine crashed on the floor a few minutes ago (I guess I must have it a cable at some point :-S) and since that, Ubuntu keeps prompting me for the wifi password :-S
17:42:46 <flo-retina> (and never actually gets connected)
17:44:15 <flo-retina> seems like it hasn't managed to connect in the last 11 minutes :-/
17:48:28 <aleth> Sounds like some connection got loose...
17:48:46 <flo-retina> I hate Ubuntu's wifi UI
17:49:36 <flo-retina> or any UI that requests from you a long-and-difficult-to-type password when it's pretty obvious that the problem has nothing to do with the password
17:49:40 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/57c3b60e089d - aleth - Bug 1572 - Contacts added directly to "Other Contacts" don't show until collapsed/expanded, r=fqueze.
17:49:41 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/50e4ab9d0d94 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 2165 - IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp, r=aleth,fqueze.
17:50:12 <flo-retina> I'm afraid not having any network connection will make my linux machine dramatically less useful :-/.
17:50:45 <aleth> Can't you use a cable if it's a desktop?
17:53:08 <flo-retina> I used to have cables
17:53:35 <flo-retina> but I'm at least 15 meters away from the nearest wired network
17:53:56 <flo-retina> (the cables got removed at some point because wifi was way less annoying
17:54:41 <flo-retina> there's no trace of wired network upstairs any more
17:54:47 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 2228 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
17:54:48 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from florian@instantbi rd.org for attachment 2967 on bug 2228.
17:54:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't handle incoming data synchronously
17:54:50 <aleth> That would be a long cable...
17:55:38 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2967 on bug 2228.
17:58:23 <flo-retina> <3
17:58:53 <flo-retina> aleth: I'm curious of what the effect or sending data immediately to a prpl that just called .disconnect() will be
17:59:24 <flo-retina> for (let time = 0; time < 10 && this._pendingData.length; ... Looks like it would be less complicated with a while loop and without the time variable
17:59:44 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled feedback?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 2967 on bug 2228.
17:59:45 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from florian@instantbi rd.org for attachment 2968 on bug 2228.
17:59:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't handle incoming data synchronously
17:59:51 <aleth> flo-retina: Yeah, at this stage I'm most concerned about possible edge cases.
18:00:10 <flo-retina> that's what my first comment was about ;)
18:00:27 <aleth> I was agreeing with it ;)
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18:02:16 <flo-retina> what's the difference between the 2 versions of the patch?
18:03:42 <aleth> flo-retina: I /think/ that should be fine. The queue is flushed before disconnect, and after disconnecting we are in the same position as before
18:04:27 <aleth> flo-retina: Probably only that the paths are correct
18:05:27 <aleth> Ah, also that the pendingData array is actually emptied when flushed.
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18:14:25 <instant-buildbot> build #496 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/496
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18:15:50 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled feedback?(florian@instantbi rd.org) for attachment 2968 on bug 2228.
18:15:51 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from florian@instantbi rd.org for attachment 2969 on bug 2228.
18:15:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Don't handle incoming data synchronously
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18:16:40 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2969 on bug 2228.
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19:33:10 <clokep> Hey guys, demoing Instantbird. :)
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21:37:15 * flo-retina is looking at the moz.build stuff, and doesn't really understand how this all works (or rather how it doesn't :-S)
21:55:58 <clokep> mikeperry: Do you have Tor guys at GSoC Summit that would know about the OTR stuff? There's a guy sitting across the table from me.
21:56:35 <flo-retina> clokep: did you have any idea for the null prpl stuff?
21:56:44 <clokep> flo-retina: No.
21:56:49 <clokep> I was just hoping it'd work. :-D
21:57:34 <flo-retina> I looked a bit, and I wonder if the cleanest thing to do wouldn't be to build all the .o files at the same time as libpurple, and go back there a second time only when linking
21:57:47 <flo-retina> that way we would generate the makefile like for the other prpls, and moz.build wouldn't be in our way
21:58:38 <flo-retina> (but what really annoys me is that I haven't really reached that point yet... the build keeps failing before that for silly reasons :()
22:07:38 <clokep> That might work...what issues are you having?
22:10:26 <flo-retina> stuff doesn't work
22:10:40 <flo-retina> and I don't know enough about it to find the command I need to run to regenerate just the missing file
22:11:15 <flo-retina> so I end up having to re-run configure, which causes a large part of the build to then be recreated (why is it recompiling the js engine whenever configure runs? :-/)
22:11:15 <clokep> ping jcranmer?
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22:11:57 <flo-retina> I think I'll rather go to bed
22:12:19 <flo-retina> but it annoys me that I'm not even able to make a build work with all the stuff related to the null prpl commented out :-/
22:13:26 <flo-retina> so yeah, I guess what really annoys me is that I've no idea of what I should do for my changes to be applied when I edit a moz.build file somewhere. With makefiles, I knew how to do that
22:18:00 <clokep> :-/
22:18:06 <clokep> I don't know either.
22:18:12 <flo-retina> ah, it seems to have finished successfully this time
22:18:30 <flo-retina> but 14 minutes to rebuild after changing a trivial thing is not acceptable :(
22:21:26 <flo-retina> clokep: so if I drop all the CONFIGURE_SUBST_FILES/EXTERNAL_MAKE_DIRS magic you have in the patch for the null prpl and try with the approach of building all prpls with libpurple and just linking later the stuff that needs to be done with purplexpcom, is that a reasonable approach for tomorrow?
22:21:46 <flo-retina> the build I've got now works (or at least can start and load libpurple) :)
22:22:17 <clokep> flo-retina: Yes, that's reasonable.
22:22:25 <clokep> Interdiff from my patch? :)
22:22:44 <flo-retina> you mean for when I have it working, or for what I have now?
22:23:23 <flo-retina> I can't really give anything now as my linux box doesn't connect to the wifi any more :'(
22:24:38 <flo-retina> but what I've done is basically: add chat/protocols/yahoo/moz.build, put "purple" before "instantbird" in instantbird.app.mozbuild, fix the indent in purple/moz.build, comment out broken null prpl stuff in purple/purplexpcom/src/moz.build, add back purple/Makefile.in
22:26:12 <clokep> When it's working. :-D
22:26:35 <clokep> OK. :)
22:27:08 <flo-retina> sure, if I get something that works I guess I'll attach both a full patch and an interdiff
22:27:14 <flo-retina> I may need to use a usb stick for that :(
22:28:04 <clokep> Did I attach my newest version?
22:28:09 <clokep> I think it's pretty much the chnages you made already.
22:28:26 <flo-retina> then no, you didn't
22:29:14 <flo-retina> ooooooooooh, a reboot fixed the wifi!
22:29:28 <flo-retina> so sad that kind of stuff is now needed on Linux :(
22:30:45 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(florian@instantbi rd.org) for attachment 2935 on bug 2212.
22:30:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2212 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Switch to using moz.build
22:31:29 <flo-retina> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/396088 is what I have
22:31:35 <flo-retina> (now that there's some wifi on the linux box ;))
22:33:45 <clokep> Interesting.
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22:34:35 <flo-retina> is it different from what you expected?
22:34:51 <clokep> No. :)
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22:46:07 <clokep> flo-retina: Let me know if you need an r or rs.
22:46:20 <flo-retina> you'll know
22:46:28 <clokep> Is that a threat? ;)
22:46:30 <flo-retina> I'll definitely attach a patch in the bug if I get something that works ;)
22:47:02 <clokep> OK!
22:48:44 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1572 to FIXED.
22:48:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1572 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Contacts added directly to "Other Contacts" don't show until collapsed/expanded
22:48:56 <clokep> That patch ^ was like trivially easy. :( Sad how long it took to fix.
22:49:25 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2165 to FIXED.
22:49:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, 1.5, clokep, RESO FIXED, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp
22:50:46 <clokep> flo-retina: I was talking about this stuff w/ the async network streams: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/network/src/TCPSocket.js#315 I forget exactly what it does though...
22:52:36 <flo-retina> clokep: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/io/nsIMultiplexInputStream.idl#8
23:03:21 <mikeperry> clokep: if you find nick mathewson, he might be the best person to talk to
23:03:27 <mikeperry> I am not there unfortunately
23:03:38 <mikeperry> are you usually in the SF bay area?
23:03:43 <clokep> mikeperry: I just saw Damian.
23:03:50 <clokep> No, I live in Boston, just here for the Summit.
23:05:00 <mikeperry> clokep: not sure how close damian is tracking the chat project. Nick is more closely involved I think. at least he has been at our IRC meetings and has been reviewing ideas
23:05:09 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2971 on bug 2099.
23:05:11 <clokep> He said he didn't know much about it, but to talk to Nick. :)
23:05:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2099 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Ensure that commands that only work in channels use CONTEXT_CHAT
23:05:21 <clokep> I haven't seen nick though! :)
23:07:09 <mikeperry> clokep: are you hanging around after sunday by any chance? we could meet at Mozilla (I am usually there on Tuesdays)
23:07:44 <clokep> mikeperry: No, I have to get back for a meeting on Monday morning.
23:08:00 <clokep> I was there on Friday afternoon though.
23:09:35 <mikeperry> last I heard nickm might have been favoring agl/xmpp-client (a command-line XMPP-only client written in Go that we would have to wrap with a UI), but I bet we can convince him InstantBird can have almost as low of a vulnerability surface, and still be way more usable
23:09:53 <mikeperry> and probably also be way less work overall
23:10:30 <clokep> OK. I'll see if I can find him...
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23:16:58 <mikeperry> clokep: when do you fly out?
23:17:17 <clokep> mikeperry: Red-eye Sunday night. Like 9pm.
23:18:25 <mikeperry> SFO or SJC?
23:25:05 <mikeperry> (trying to decide ifnickm, you and I could meet at the airport for dinner or something)
23:31:42 <clokep> SFO.
23:31:49 <clokep> mikeperry: ^
23:31:57 <clokep> I could always try to meet with him here too! :)
23:34:40 <instant-buildbot> build #482 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/482  blamelist: aleth <aleth@instantbird.org>, Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com>
23:35:01 <mikeperry> yeah, I am just thinking out loud about meeting you too. it's a bit of a pain for me to get to the mentor summit
23:36:20 <clokep> Right, sorry. I missed the "and I" the first time. :-/
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23:57:09 <instant-buildbot> build #491 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/491
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