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00:16:39 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 00:44:16 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 01:17:56 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:24:14 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 01:42:43 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 01:51:34 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:56:02 <-- StrangeCharm has left #instantbird () 02:10:49 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 03:00:11 <instant-buildbot> build #1005 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1005 03:38:25 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:16:01 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:32:23 <instant-buildbot> build #1046 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1046 06:40:30 <instant-buildbot> build #1127 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1127 06:54:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:01:39 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 07:05:05 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 07:06:27 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 07:06:58 <-- atul_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:08:54 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 07:17:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 07:17:50 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 07:18:24 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 07:18:29 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 07:18:57 --> jamesw has joined #instantbird 07:24:53 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:25:18 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 07:31:26 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 07:32:09 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 07:32:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 07:38:24 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:42:35 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:47:48 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:14:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:29:45 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 08:47:57 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 08:51:10 <nhnt11> Hi 08:52:47 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:54:19 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:54:24 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 08:58:30 * nhnt11 wonders why #maildev opened when I opened Instantbird (it's always #instantbird, I didn't even realize till I saw firebot) 08:58:45 <nhnt11> 14:27:24 * nhnt11 is having a hard time trying to reproduce some of these awesomebugs (bug 2209, bug 2204) 08:58:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2209 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Error: (intermediate value).buddy is null at ibConvStatsService.js:479 08:58:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2204 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, JavaScript errors if ibConvStatsService.js was processing LIST results during shutdown 08:58:55 <nhnt11> :] 09:00:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:08:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 09:15:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:15:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:18:36 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 09:21:45 <aleth> nhnt11: Going from 500ms to 5s would have no benefits, the remaining jank is due to the fact that delayedRefresh() can take much longer than 15ms ;) 09:22:11 <nhnt11> Hmm 09:22:20 * nhnt11 goes to class 09:23:08 <aleth> getFilteredConv is the main culprit I guess 09:23:22 <aleth> Something to look at after 1.5 ;) 09:24:00 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 09:24:26 <aleth> flo-retina: "The Update could not be installed (patch apply failed)" Anyone else see this recently? 09:24:54 <flo-retina> aleth: could be linux only 09:25:14 <flo-retina> aleth: the update system is a bit messed up on linux/mac right now because the hard disk got full while the mar files were updating 09:25:14 <aleth> I was wondering because the current Mac nightly size is listed as 0 09:25:30 <flo-retina> on Mac it doesn't do anything, so I thought it was the same on linux 09:25:34 <aleth> Ah. 09:25:41 <flo-retina> if we are sending broken updates to people on linux I would disable that asap 09:30:19 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 09:31:42 * nhnt11 is now known as nhnt11_class 09:48:46 <aleth> nhnt11_class: You may need to use a debug build to get to see those shutdown errors. 09:51:35 <flo-retina> and use an account where LIST takes a while :) 09:52:43 <nhnt11_class> aleth: Yeah, I was going to try that next. flo-retina: freenode works fine ;) 09:57:18 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:02:18 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 10:07:48 <Mic> nhnt11_class: QuakeNet, IRCNet seem to be the next largest. 10:07:54 <Mic> 30k+ channels each there. 10:08:21 <nhnt11_class> I don't think it really matters as long as LIST is still going on when I quit? 10:09:17 <Mic> I'd think so, but I'd expect the time necessary for LIST to complete to be proportional to the number of channels. At least in a per-server way ;) 10:09:37 <nhnt11_class> Sure 10:09:47 <nhnt11_class> But I already have a freenode acccount ;) 10:11:00 <nhnt11_class> Mic: Btw, I was wondering if you have any ideas for bug 2225 10:11:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2225 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Regression] User icon overflows its rounded border 10:12:40 <Mic> No, not yet/right now as I'm leaving in half an hour and need to have lunch first ;) 10:13:06 <nhnt11_class> Cool 10:13:06 <Mic> Btw put the "regression" as keyword on the whiteboard in this bug. 10:13:14 <nhnt11_class> Ok. 10:14:57 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 10:20:30 <-- nhnt11_class has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:31:59 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:31:59 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:42:13 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:48:24 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:48:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:49:03 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 10:49:14 * clokep is at the airport really early... 10:54:41 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:01:28 * clokep just got a nick change too fast message. :( 11:02:02 <clokep> (Which is unhandled btw. :-D) 11:02:35 <aleth> There's a nick change too fast message? How fast do you have to be? ;) 11:02:56 <clokep> I changed it like 5 times in 10 seconds. 11:03:02 <clokep> I was told to wait 47 seconds. 11:03:08 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(aleth@instantbird.o rg) for attachment 2960 on bug 653. 11:03:09 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2962 on bug 653. 11:03:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Configurable alternate IRC nicks 11:03:49 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2962 on bug 653. 11:06:43 <clokep> Thanks. :) 11:08:04 * aleth wonders if that will help with the sasl grouped nick login issue 11:08:44 <aleth> (treat the alternate nicks as possibly grouped) 11:09:40 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:10:24 <aleth> clokep: If you are bored, maybe you have a great idea for the string for nhnt11's log reading notification bar ;) 11:10:36 <nhnt11> aleth++ 11:10:38 <clokep> aleth: Doing checkin-needed right now. 11:10:40 <clokep> But what's the bug? 11:10:54 <aleth> I was wondering if something short like "Finding your most frequent conversations..." would do 11:12:46 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 653 to FIXED. 11:12:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enh, --, 1.5, clokep, RESO FIXED, Configurable alternate IRC nicks 11:13:07 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2131 to FIXED. 11:13:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2131 nor, --, 1.5, qheaden, RESO FIXED, "Would you like to be my chat buddy" sent on accepting buddy auth request 11:13:33 <aleth> clokep: Is your patch in bug 2165 bitrotted by the defineLazyModuleGetter patch? 11:13:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 11:13:45 <clokep> aleth: Other way around. 11:13:49 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2221 to FIXED. 11:13:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2221 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Force-refresh open newtabs less frequently during LIST 11:14:00 <clokep> aleth: The lazy getter one requires the ping one. 11:14:07 <aleth> OK. 11:14:29 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2220 to FIXED. 11:14:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2220 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Unhandled IRC message 263: LIST refused 11:14:48 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:14:48 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:15:01 <clokep> I think it says that in the bug. ;) 11:15:12 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2959 on bug 2165. 11:15:13 * aleth just read the patch ;) 11:15:14 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2158 to FIXED. 11:15:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2158 nor, --, 1.5, benediktp, RESO FIXED, [a11y] Ensure the newtab is accessible 11:16:40 <clokep> :) 11:17:46 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3028ff9c1943 - Benedikt Pfeifer - Bug 2158 - [a11y] Ensure the newtab is accessible, r=nhnt11. 11:17:48 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/92c568d16dec - Quentin Headen - Bug 2131 - JS-Yahoo: "Would you like to be my chat buddy" sent on accepting buddy auth request, r=clokep. 11:17:49 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5fcb26cc7453 - aleth - Bug 2221 - Force-refresh open newtabs less frequently during LIST, r=nhnt11. 11:17:50 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5ae435057c7a - aleth - Bug 2220 - Unhandled IRC message 263: LIST refused, r=clokep. 11:17:51 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7620e849458f - Patrick Cloke - Bug 653 - Configurable alternate IRC nicks, r=aleth. 11:19:08 * clokep wonders if he can get a quick review by flo-retina on bug 2165. :) 11:19:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 11:19:52 <flo-retina> clokep: no. 11:20:11 <clokep> OK. :) 11:20:27 <flo-retina> clokep: I pointed out a few days ago that the patch was changing the message without changing the id 11:20:34 <clokep> Ah, yeah. 11:20:48 <flo-retina> err, I read your above question as "can I get a quick r+" ;) 11:21:07 <aleth> Without changing what id? 11:21:19 <flo-retina> aleth: ctcp.ping 11:21:21 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 11:21:27 <aleth> Oh, the string change. 11:21:32 <aleth> Sorry, I should have caught that. 11:21:40 <clokep> aleth: Any idea what I shuld change it to? 11:21:48 <aleth> ctcp.ping2? ;) 11:21:50 <clokep> I should probably reomve the "ctcp." since it isn't used just for that anymore. 11:22:00 <aleth> Oh, I see. 11:22:05 <clokep> But I could just make it a 2, yes. :) 11:22:23 <aleth> Otherwise message.ping 11:23:45 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2959 on bug 2165. 11:23:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 11:25:05 <aleth> I couldn't see a good way to reduce the duplication there either :-/ 11:26:05 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:30:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:31:10 <flo-retina> aleth: I haven't looked for one 11:31:42 <aleth> flo-retina: I thought about it for a minute and you'd have to construct some helper function on the account 11:31:44 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:32:05 <flo-retina> aleth: yeah, you would need a function "somewhere" 11:32:05 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:32:05 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:32:23 <aleth> And that would actually be less readable as it would be in a /third/ file 11:33:38 <clokep> perhaps, perhaps. 11:33:39 <flo-retina> aleth: the goal of removing code duplication is not readability; it's ensuring we don't fix a bug in a place and not the other 11:33:57 <clokep> I'm looking at it, give me a few minutes. 11:33:59 <flo-retina> sometimes we add a comment saying that both places should be updated at once 11:34:07 <flo-retina> anyway, lunch time 11:34:17 <aleth> flo-retina: Sure. 11:34:21 <flo-retina> clokep: if you are already gone when I come back: have a nice flight and enjoy the summit! :) 11:34:33 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks. :) I have another ~1 hour. 11:34:39 <clokep> I'll let you guys know how it goes. 11:35:32 <aleth> flo-retina: Having a function that doesn't make much sense in itself floating around in ircUtils or somewhere isn't great though. 11:39:33 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2963 on bug 2224. 11:39:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2224 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use defineLazyModuleGetter instead of defineLazyGetter 11:39:54 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2964 on bug 2165. 11:39:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 11:40:55 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2964 on bug 2165. 11:49:43 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2964 on bug 2165. 11:49:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 11:52:27 <clokep> I'll wait for Florian's comments before uploading a new patch. 11:52:35 <aleth> Sure, I only had nits... 11:53:57 * aleth thinks this is one of those 'trivial, fix in 5 minutes' IRC patches that ends up going through 10 review cycles ;) 11:54:37 <clokep> It seems to happen too often. :P 11:54:47 <clokep> It's OK though, makes better code. 11:55:09 <aleth> Definitely makes for better code. Also I guess it's important for all the edge cases that bedevil IRC 11:56:09 <aleth> It's unfortunate to have to move message-handling functions like that to the account though. 11:56:27 * clokep is excited for the alternate nicks patch. :) 11:56:29 <clokep> That's an old bug! 11:56:42 <aleth> Triple digit bug number! 11:58:02 <clokep> :) 12:00:02 * clokep is going to sign off. 12:00:05 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:06:28 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2964 on bug 2165. 12:06:29 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted feedback for attachment 2964 on bug 2165. 12:06:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 12:06:37 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 12:07:09 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2963 on bug 2224. 12:07:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2224 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use defineLazyModuleGetter instead of defineLazyGetter 12:07:54 <flo-retina> oh, bug 653 landed! \o/ 12:07:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enh, --, 1.5, clokep, RESO FIXED, Configurable alternate IRC nicks 12:26:30 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:51:28 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:02:36 <Yoric> flo-retina: Have you filed your Summit bugs? 13:02:45 <flo-retina> Yoric: not yet, sorry :( 13:02:52 <Yoric> No problem. 13:03:00 <flo-retina> but I won't forget, they are in my "post-Summit" todo list 13:03:00 <Yoric> I have found things with which to occupy myself :) 13:03:18 <flo-retina> oh, if you are afraid you may get bored, I can file them soon ;) 13:03:29 <Yoric> (as in "Oh, gosh, please make it stop, I can't cope with all this work, nooooooo") 13:26:43 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 13:31:23 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:31:24 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 13:33:05 <flo-retina> hm, the awesometab is still janky :-/ 13:34:46 <flo-retina> http://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=f7f52d9fbeb21e8f081f40c6fbf8ba479fa0f682 is what I've got 13:38:14 <aleth> Lots of time spent in Services.accounts.getAccountById 13:40:16 <flo-retina> aleth: is this jank covered by one of the patches that just landed? 13:40:48 <aleth> You'll maybe notice it less, but no. 13:42:28 * aleth wonders what should be cached to reduce the amount of time spent in getAccountById (and similar culprits) 13:43:15 <flo-retina> how many times are we calling it and why? That's not expected to be super slow, so if it's takes a lot of time, we are likely calling it thousands of times. 13:43:46 <aleth> I just randomly selected two bits of red, and if you dig down its a significant percentage 13:43:57 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:46:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:46:59 <aleth> It's possible the line numbers in your profile don't agree with the line numbers I have locally of course, due to the recent nightly issues. 13:47:49 <aleth> :-/ 13:48:39 <flo-retina> or mac ifdefs, or just the profiler giving us non-sensical output :(. 13:48:56 <flo-retina> I still don't know why we have so many "<anonymous>" functions... 13:49:12 <aleth> That's really annoying, yes 13:49:56 <flo-retina> I don't trust the event lag numbers on that profile 13:50:22 <flo-retina> I was typing. it was not very responsive, but usable. Waiting 2s to see my characters appear would have annoyed me way more ;). 13:50:36 <aleth> That would have been seriously broken ;) 13:52:05 <aleth> Most of the remaining jank is caused by getFilteredConvs being synchronous, as far as I can tell. Tweaking various bits and pieces won't change that underlying problem. 13:52:31 <flo-retina> aleth: my jank is without using the awesometab 13:52:53 <aleth> flo-retina: Then something is very odd about that profile 13:53:25 <aleth> Wait, did you mean you had no awesometab open, or that you didn't actively use it? 13:53:34 <flo-retina> what I did is: "Command +T, type 's' (that's enough to make Standard8 the first item), press enter, start talking with Mark and notice that characters don't appear at the rate I type them." So I would definitely still blame LIST. 13:53:54 <flo-retina> no awesome tab open during the jank 13:55:08 <aleth> That's odd, as we should always return after ~15ms for that 13:58:12 <aleth> Maybe it should be 10ms? 13:59:05 <aleth> Or even less? So if there is other pending work to be done in the event loop we get to it quickly enough 13:59:39 * aleth thinks this just shows the need for the bug for y oric we discussed at the summit 14:00:33 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:01:38 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:02:35 <flo-retina> aleth: I wouldn't be surprised if there was an edge case somewhere that caused us to do several 15ms chunks in a raw 14:05:56 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:18:47 <aleth> flo-retina: I could reproduce an occasional very slight lag when typing during LIST you mentioned (no awesometab open). Reducing from 15 to 10 ms made it go away. 14:19:36 <aleth> It wasn't very bad jank though - it was only noticeable because I was paying attention. 14:19:45 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't see 5ms making a user-perceivable difference 14:20:00 <flo-retina> aleth: I wasn't paying attention, and noticed stuff was slow 14:20:08 <flo-retina> I wondered what was slowing down my machine 14:20:31 <flo-retina> and then remembered I used the awesometab (probably for the first time of the day) to open the conversation 14:20:38 <aleth> flo-retina: In itself it shouldn't make any difference, but it means the chunk size is smaller, so other synchronous stuff happening at the same time has more room. 14:20:57 <flo-retina> what's the synchronous stuff? 14:21:07 <aleth> IRC processing of incoming LIST messages for example 14:21:57 <flo-retina> aleth: should we buffer that? 14:22:21 <flo-retina> aleth: it could very well be the cause 14:22:25 <aleth> Note this is not visible much in the profile, so I'm just guessing. 14:22:29 <flo-retina> in which case the jank would only happen on a fast internet connection 14:36:34 --> MisterMan has joined #instantbird 14:37:34 <MisterMan> Hello, I am just popping in; first, to say thanks for making instantbird. Second, to say that IB should REALLY say something other than "<USERNAME> wants to talk to you." when you get an add request from a spambot on Yahoo. 14:38:15 <MisterMan> Failing that, it should support yahoo's appear permanently offline behavior, so that once I've been duped into accepting their add request I can at least go invisible to them. 14:38:33 <aleth> MisterMan: Thanks! What should it say instead? 14:38:51 <MisterMan> "<Username> would like to add you to their contact list" would be ideal. 14:38:59 <MisterMan> If that's not too wordy. 14:39:24 <aleth> To make it clearer what the consequences of saying "yes" are? 14:39:29 <aleth> qheaden ^^ 14:39:30 <MisterMan> Yes, exactly. 14:39:44 <aleth> MisterMan: Could you file a bug please? 14:39:48 <MisterMan> "would like to talk to you" makes it seem like you're about to get an IM from them. 14:40:16 <aleth> qheaden has been working on a new implementation of Yahoo, and so input is welcome... 14:40:39 <aleth> (The link to our bug tracker is in the topic) 14:40:52 <MisterMan> I suppose if you guys can take the trouble to develop an IM client I can register for your bug tracker. ;) 14:41:21 <aleth> MisterMan: It helps us because it means people can get back to you, plus you get informed about what is decided or done about it ;) 14:42:08 <aleth> Btw did you know Instantbird can do IRC too? ;) 14:42:59 <MisterMan> Subtle. ;) 14:43:12 <aleth> Actually I'm not sure whether the issue you are pointing out is a yahoo-only issue. 14:43:15 <MisterMan> Should this be for core or UI? 14:43:44 <aleth> You can file it under Core-Yahoo and we can always move it if it turns out to be more general. 14:43:48 <MisterMan> I am not sure, myself. I only use IB for Yahoo. I will say that it's especially a problem on Yahoo, since it's rife with spambots. 14:46:18 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2226 filed by bug_tracker_disp@mailinator.com. 14:46:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2226 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Message displayed on receiving an add request 14:46:44 <MisterMan> wow. that was surprisingly responsive. 14:47:19 <aleth> Thanks for filing the bug! 14:47:20 <MisterMan> I play MTGO and I am used to bug trackers being where disgruntled users are sent to wait to die. 14:47:56 <MisterMan> It is likely that I will report further bugs in the future, provided they are sufficiently bothersome. :D 14:48:02 <aleth> Sure, feel free! 14:48:29 <aleth> It's not quite true that "if it's not filed, it doesn't exist" but it is a lot less likely to get lost. 14:48:29 <MisterMan> Not likely that I'll be replacing my full-fledged IRC client for a while yet, though. ;) 14:48:52 <MisterMan> but maybe I will at least try InstantBird's implementation. 14:48:55 <MisterMan> now that I know it exists. 14:49:12 <MisterMan> peace out, and thanks for being receptive. 14:49:16 <-- MisterMan has left #instantbird (Leaving) 15:09:09 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2227 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 15:09:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2227 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make possibleChat id a lazy getter 15:16:00 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 15:24:53 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 15:26:15 <flo-retina> aleth: so have you understood what MisterMan actually wants? 15:26:34 <flo-retina> the way we show buddy requests definitely suck, but I don't think the wording is really the problem there :-/ 15:57:32 <flo-retina> I suspect bugzilla should reject @mailinator addresses ;) 15:58:03 <flo-retina> what's the point of people replying/commenting/asking questions if all of that is (almost) guaranteed to end up in /dev/null... 16:28:38 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 16:28:53 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:31:58 <instant-buildbot> build #494 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/494 16:38:33 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:40:08 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:44:25 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:49:17 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 16:53:10 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:57:34 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 16:58:05 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:03:30 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 17:10:17 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 17:15:55 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 17:47:51 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:54:51 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:18:59 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:36:41 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 19:06:06 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 20:15:26 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:23:13 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:23:13 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 21:50:00 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:50:21 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:50:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:00:59 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2965 on bug 2165. 22:01:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2165 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC ping does not properly send a timestamp 22:04:59 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:15:30 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2224 to FIXED. 22:15:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2224 tri, --, 1.5, clokep, RESO FIXED, Use defineLazyModuleGetter instead of defineLazyGetter 22:18:28 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ff81447d30da - Patrick Cloke - Bug 2224 - Use defineLazyModuleGetter instead of defineLazyGetter, r=fqueze. 22:38:03 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 22:45:47 <instant-buildbot> build #495 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/495 22:50:42 <flo-retina> I've cleaned up the mess of partially updated files 22:50:45 <flo-retina> *uploaded 22:51:24 <flo-retina> I rm'ed the files of the October 16 nightly for Linux and Mac, and told the update system to ignore them (for some reason it didn't let me just delete the entries in the database :-S) 23:04:40 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:24:21 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:26:14 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:35:00 <instant-buildbot> build #481 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/481 blamelist: Benedikt Pfeifer <benediktp@ymail.com>, Quentin Headen <qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com>, Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com>, aleth <aleth@instantbird.org> 23:57:05 <instant-buildbot> build #490 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/490