#instantbird log on 10 13 2013

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03:05:46 <instant-buildbot> build #1000 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1000
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09:02:11 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I put some hints in the bug ;)
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09:25:55 <Mic> nhnt11: the order of the suggestions looks pretty good in new nightlies in my opinion:)
09:30:48 <flo-retina> yeah, appart from one channel that puzzles me, the order seems pretty good here too :)
09:31:33 <flo-retina> it's quite annoying though that after opening the awesometab for the first time, typing here is super difficult :-/.
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09:43:39 <flo-retina> http://people.mozilla.org/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=00da20db2720497b7eb92df3898eb75da4d983ed
09:43:48 <flo-retina> this profile surprises me
09:45:06 <flo-retina> If I look at the part where handling of LIST results was still in progress, the average event lag is 41,67ms, which matches quite well the 40ms we have in the code (I really thing we should change that value to 15)
09:45:14 <flo-retina> but the 'max event lag' is 448ms.
09:47:30 <flo-retina> and if I look at the part of the profile where that happened, most if it (87% IIRC) is in ClassInfo_QueryInterface, where 370ms was spent at once apparently.
09:49:00 <flo-retina> the only way I can imagine for that to happen is if we transfer a large array through XPConnect, but the code doesn't seem to be doing that around the stacks we have in the profiler :-S
09:51:51 <Mic> hmm :(
09:52:15 <Mic> I've removed the cache file and the order after log sweeping is different now.
09:52:27 <Mic> I didn't send or receive any messages in the meantime.
09:52:49 <Mic> This doesn't sound right in my opinion.
09:53:06 <flo-retina> is the order back to what you had before if you restart?
09:53:18 <flo-retina> I think aleth filed a bug about some stuff not being taken into account immediately
09:53:57 <Mic> brb 
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09:54:50 <Mic> Restarting after the log sweeping has finished didn't make a difference.
09:55:34 <Mic> I've saved both cache files from before and after refreshing it from the logs.
09:55:59 <Mic> Maybe I'll have a closer look later.
09:56:03 <Mic> bbl
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13:27:53 <nhnt11> Hi
13:28:02 <nhnt11> Mic: That's surprising :(
13:30:00 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I saw your hints, btw
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13:46:01 <clokep> Hello. :)
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13:58:03 <nhnt11> hey clokep :)
13:58:05 <nhnt11> bbl
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14:03:48 <clokep> Says hi and then runs away...hmm... :P
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17:32:38 <instant-buildbot> build #1036 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1036
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18:22:55 <YH> it seems pidgin-lwqq 0.2c, which is released 4 days ago, is a usable QQ protocol client.
18:24:54 <clokep> Interesting. :)
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18:31:34 <YH> it's good to do further investigating whether it's time to port pidgin-lwqq into instantbird but yet i have no knowledge/idea how to compile it in windows
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20:47:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2216 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
20:47:52 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 2945 on bug 2216.
20:47:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2216 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The stats service shouldn't block the UI for more than 15ms
20:48:51 <flo-retina> nhnt11: as requested, I added you to the default CC list of the Instantbird::Conversation BIO component.
20:48:58 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Thanks
20:49:42 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com granted review for attachment 2945 on bug 2216.
20:51:21 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Btw, are we sure that a single iteration of that loop takes less than 15ms? Maybe we want to time it...
20:52:18 <flo-retina> I would be very surprised if it was that long on a powerful macbook with an optimized build
20:52:33 * nhnt11 shrugs
20:53:40 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I don't believe that patch will make much of an improvement, but I'm really curious to see how it will affect the profiles
20:53:41 <nhnt11> It seems to be ~2ms per iteration on my optimized build :)
20:54:03 <nhnt11> Hmm
20:54:09 <flo-retina> btw (assuming you've read the log today), any idea of what could have caused QueryInterface to be called for more than 300ms?
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20:54:36 <nhnt11-testing> flo-retina: It's still pretty laggy :/
20:55:04 <nhnt11> I haven't looked into it
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20:55:17 <flo-retina> "now - this._lastUpdateNotification > 100) {" -> maybe we should increase that value?
20:55:53 <flo-retina> I don't really see how it could be helpful to update the display more than once per second
20:56:05 <nhnt11> I think I wanted it to be once per second initially :-/
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20:57:11 <flo-retina> I think I suggested that value, because it's small enough that it wouldn't make any difference to the user (ie for a user it would behave as if that code didn't existed and we updated all the time)
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20:58:01 <flo-retina> but now I think I could even be convinced that 5s is frequent enough
21:01:33 <nhnt11> Somehow I don't think any of this will help too much :(
21:02:18 <nhnt11> (er, not just think, I'm trying different values here)
21:02:18 <flo-retina> nhnt11: my hope is that it will reduce the noise in the profiles, so that we can more better see the real problems
21:02:23 <nhnt11> Right
21:02:31 <flo-retina> s/more //
21:06:55 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I wonder if we should try actively delaying the next call to addPendingChats
21:07:10 <nhnt11> i.e. rather than executeSoon, setTimeout to say 50ms or so
21:10:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/78b109cc1941 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 2215 - Warning: Unhandled IRC message 042 and 338 when connecting to oftc.net, r=aleth.
21:11:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7a74bd9b709a - Florian Qu├Ęze - Bug 2216 - The stats service shouldn't block the UI for more than 15ms, r=nhnt11.
21:11:43 <flo-retina> nhnt11: how would that help?
21:12:36 <flo-retina> nhnt11: another thing I was wondering today is: are there executeSoon calls in the conversation binding, that would explain that the UI feels sluggish even though the average event lag according to the profiler is around 40ms
21:12:36 <nhnt11> I don't really remember how I got the idea, it was something to do with having space between each 15ms block
21:12:40 <nhnt11> (never mind)
21:13:14 <flo-retina> btw, what you just suggested would help if the answer to my above question is yes ;)
21:13:54 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Well I tried it and it didn't help so...
21:14:29 <nhnt11> flo-retina: adding one chat at a time (rather than adding as many as possible for 15ms) seems to help.
21:14:42 <nhnt11> (I was able to type without waiting for text to appear)
21:15:09 <nhnt11> Er, I'm also delaying each addition by 50ms
21:15:17 <nhnt11> really bad solution imo
21:15:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2216 to FIXED.
21:15:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2216 nor, --, 1.5, florian, RESO FIXED, The stats service shouldn't block the UI for more than 15ms
21:15:53 <nhnt11> Anyway, it's still pretty laggy so..
21:16:01 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2215 to FIXED.
21:16:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2215 tri, --, 1.5, clokep, RESO FIXED, Warning: Unhandled IRC message 042 and 338 when connecting to oftc.net
21:16:11 * nhnt11 goes to bed
21:16:12 <nhnt11> Good night
21:17:20 <flo-retina> Good night
21:17:26 <flo-retina> and thanks for the quick review ;)
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23:34:05 <instant-buildbot> build #478 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/478  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>, Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com>
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