#instantbird log on 10 04 2013

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03:09:00 <instant-buildbot> build #991 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/991
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05:40:01 <flo-retina> I don't see any obvious improvement to the ordering in the awesometab :-/
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05:45:28 <flo-retina> that makes me want tests even more I guess ;)
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11:21:09 * clokep_wp8 has met a few people who use Instantbird!
11:21:21 <clokep_wp8> And comvinced a few to try it. :-)
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11:54:55 <nhnt11_phone> flo-retina: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m31 - we didn't check in anything to improve the ordering...
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13:30:48 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I thought bug 2195 was supposed to improve things a bit, but maybe I misunderstood
13:30:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2195 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, ExistingConversations for chats don't get ranked until added from the room info api.
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14:09:14 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Uh, it just ensures that existing convs for MUCs will be given a rank before LIST results arrive.
14:09:33 <nhnt11> So you likely won't notice anything at all, considering you have automatic list turned on.
14:09:41 <nhnt11> Hi aleth_summit! :)
14:10:14 * nhnt11 just got back to his room, and found duplicates for two of his contacts in the awesometab.
14:10:18 <nhnt11> time to investigate..
14:13:46 <nhnt11> Ah
14:13:48 <nhnt11> I think I found it
14:21:59 <instant-buildbot> build #469 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/469  blamelist: Nils Maier <maierman@web.de>
14:26:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6192b42c7bd4 - Nils Maier - Attempt to fix warning: deletion of pointer to incomplete type 'mintrayr::platform::Icon'; no destructor called, rs=fqueze.
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14:56:33 * nhnt11 wonders if he can call Array.prototype.filter on a Set.
14:57:37 <aleth_summit> not without converting it to an array first
14:58:09 <nhnt11> I guess just iterating over it manually would work
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15:11:15 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2927 on bug 2201.
15:11:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Duplicate items in the new conversation tab
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19:13:01 <clokep> No one from Brussels awake here? :P
19:14:03 <nhnt11> I'm guessing they're awake, it's 9:15pm there :P
19:17:31 <clokep> But not in here!
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19:24:32 <Mic> "It's a friday night and we're on a convention. Let's hang around in IRC!" ?
19:24:36 <Mic> Hopefully not ;)
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20:21:37 <clokep> nhnt11: Just showed your new tab stuff to a bunch of people.
20:21:51 <clokep> They were all impressed. :)
20:22:01 <nhnt11> clokep: :D
20:22:05 <Mic> Cool!
20:22:46 <Mic> I've seen a 'strange' order of contacts on the tab but when thinking about it it is totally to be expected to be that way.
20:23:43 <Mic> It's really only a few people that I frequently talk to and the other contacts there were some that I talked to not so long ago. I had just forgotten that I did.
20:32:03 <nhnt11> I guess aleth and flo are too busy having fun at the summit to look at bug 2201 ;) That bug is annoying me...
20:32:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Duplicate items in the new conversation tab
20:32:44 <nhnt11> I have at duplicates of 3 or 4 contacts, and a couple of them have three :(
20:33:08 <clokep> Mic: ^
20:33:37 <Mic> Already looking at it :)
20:33:40 <nhnt11> (I r? aleth on that since he knows that code best, btw)
20:34:15 <nhnt11> Mic: Thanks, let me know if I can clarify anything for you! :)
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20:38:27 <Mic> nhnt11: I don't think you can add the same entry twice to a set.
20:38:56 <nhnt11> Yeah, it doesn't really make sense, bah
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20:47:17 <nhnt11> Mic: Does the rest of that patch seem ok?
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20:48:09 <Mic> It seems so. I'm still trying to understand some code around it.
20:48:48 <nhnt11> Ok.
20:58:52 <nhnt11> Mic: I'm going to bed in a minute, shall I upload another patch with the duplicate check removed?
20:59:00 <Mic> Yes, please.
21:00:19 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com cancelled review?(aleth@instantbird.o rg) for attachment 2927 on bug 2201.
21:00:20 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com requested review from benediktp@ymail.com  for attachment 2928 on bug 2201.
21:00:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Duplicate items in the new conversation tab
21:02:16 <nhnt11> Good night.
21:03:21 <Mic> Good night!
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21:05:21 <Mic> nhnt11: are you still here?
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21:05:45 <flo-retina> hey there! :)
21:05:49 <Mic> HI
21:06:38 <nhnt11> Mic: Yeah
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21:07:21 <flo-retina> I think it's been a pretty good first day!
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21:08:11 <Mic> Status changes aren't a problem by their own here, are they?
21:08:36 <nhnt11> Er, not sure what you mean. You mean without the repositioning stuff?
21:08:38 <Mic> The only place where convs are added to the set it in the new-text observer as it seems.
21:08:40 <nhnt11> If so, they're not.
21:08:58 <flo-retina> I met aleth, I introduced aleth and Even to several people who are (more or less) relevant for Instantbird (gerv, jb, davida, Standard8, Fallen, Boriss, myk; and possibly a few others that I don't remember right now)
21:09:14 <nhnt11> Mic: Yeah. That's the only time stats are updated ;)
21:09:56 <Mic> OK, so the bug occurs only if there was a status change and a new message?
21:10:12 <nhnt11> It occurs if there was a new message first, and then a status change
21:10:21 <flo-retina> at some point we were bored by the sessions and decided to go to the hacking room (that's where the photo we shared as taken) and Nils found us and asked if that was an Instantbird install party. He asked if we were still using his code... so we got him to fix a warning that I've been suspecting for a while to be a possible cause of a crasher we have on Windows.
21:10:26 <Mic> Ah, OK. That wasn't clear from the bug report itself.
21:10:54 <Mic> I only got the idea from reading the related code. It's fine then.
21:10:57 <flo-retina> when we met Fallen we asked him if he could get his debugger worker for Tb to work on Ib, and he said he would try and find us to help us get it working
21:11:23 <flo-retina> and he did! He found us an hour or two later in the lounge, and we debugged that. I have a working JS debugger working on my Instantbird debug build! \o/
21:11:55 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Sounds awesome :D
21:12:25 <flo-retina> nhnt11: yes, pretty awesome first day :)
21:13:11 <flo-retina> my only disappointment is that the linux system I prepared for aleth on my lenovo laptop seems to have been messed up by the ubuntu update, and anything involving heavy usage for a file system (like building) is more or less unusable :(
21:13:17 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 2928 on bug 2201.
21:13:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Duplicate items in the new conversation tab
21:13:59 <flo-retina> nhnt11: could that bug also explain the JS error I was seeing for after merging contacts? (it looked like you were keeping an observer on a contact that no longer existed)
21:14:50 <flo-retina> nhnt11: and maybe even also some of the sluggishness? :) I remember my profile was showing us creating new items from PossibleConvFromContact objects a lot.
21:15:07 * flo-retina is hoping for all the unfortunate behavior to all disappear with a single fix :)
21:15:12 <flo-retina> *behaviors
21:15:28 <aleth_summit> While we`re having fun at the summit, nhnt11 is fixing bugs ;)
21:15:29 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Interesting, in that case maybe we should actively remove convs from convsWithUpdatedStats in removeContact
21:15:49 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: looks like you are still struggling with the French keyboard :(
21:16:08 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: you can likely switch it to an en-US layout relatively easily (if you can type without looking at the keys)
21:16:46 <nhnt11> flo-retina: So.. no, it won't fix all the bugs in one go ;)
21:16:53 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: hint, the ' character is on the '4' key on a French keyboard.
21:17:08 <nhnt11> The patch I uploaded only fixes the duplicate contact issue
21:17:13 <flo-retina> :(
21:17:14 <aleth_summit> flo-retina: Some special chars are still hiding from me... but I'm getting faster ;)
21:17:40 <nhnt11> Anyway, I need to sleep, I've got a class in ~5 hours :(
21:17:53 <nhnt11> Good night!
21:18:18 * flo-retina wonders if the people who saw an awesometab demo by clokep will start using Instantbird
21:18:29 <aleth_summit> nhnt11: I think the ranking code is going to need some more comments...
21:18:30 <flo-retina> I think we should have booked tables at the innovation fair to show that kind of stuff
21:18:36 <aleth_summit> Good night!
21:18:40 <flo-retina> that, magic copy, ...
21:19:01 <flo-retina> We've got plenty of exciting stuff to show; we are just doing a poor job of showing it :-|
21:19:12 <flo-retina> nhnt11: good night :)
21:21:03 <flo-retina> it's funny how now I'm thinking of a person rather than a 'nick' or 'contributor' when seeing aleth talk here :). We should really setup some Instantbird summit to all meet each other!
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21:33:49 <flo-retina> ah, one person I forgot in the list a few minutes ago: we also met bwinton! :)
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21:41:45 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2202 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
21:41:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2202 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix onload handler of contact list
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21:54:20 <clokep> Did I miss everyone?
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21:55:53 <flo-retina> clokep: no :)
21:56:24 <flo-retina> clokep: I'm curious about what you did to demo the awesometab
21:56:33 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e64e814681eb - Nihanth Subramanya - Bug 2201 - Duplicate items in the new conversation tab, r=Mic.
21:57:05 <clokep> flo-retina: I was on my computer and pulled it up on my own profile and let jcranmer, mconley, JosiahOne, wsmwk and a couple other people play w/ it.
21:57:05 <clokep> Briefly. :)
21:57:32 <mconley> 'twas awesome
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22:01:26 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2201 to FIXED.
22:01:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2201 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Duplicate items in the new conversation tab
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22:02:45 <flo-retina> mconley: :)
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22:07:15 <Mic> "Scrolling the currently selected contact into view after showing offline contacts" is a bug that shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to fix, right?
22:07:21 <Mic> Unfortunately not :(
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22:10:51 <flo-retina> Mic: why shouldn't it take more than 10 minutes?
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22:11:00 <kkirill> Is it possible to enable automatic grouping of consecutive system messages for Simple default messaging theme?
22:11:12 <flo-retina> Mic: (or why would it?)
22:11:29 <clokep> kkirill: If you modify the theme. :P
22:11:31 <flo-retina> kkirill: no, that feature only exists in Bubbles and Paper Sheets.
22:11:54 <kkirill> can I copy paste it from one to anohter?
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22:12:04 <flo-retina> kkirill: Simple purposefully doesn't have any JS in it.
22:12:08 <flo-retina> you can likely copy/paste some of the logic
22:12:18 <flo-retina> but I think you'll need to adapt it a bit
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22:13:27 <kkirill> OK, but where can I find default themes?
22:14:30 <kkirill> it seems that they are hardcoded and not available for editing...
22:14:31 <flo-retina> kkirill: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/messages/
22:15:31 <kkirill> I've got it. I need to create my own theme based on them
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22:19:29 <kkirill> can I just disable system messages without editing themes?
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22:20:31 <Mic> You can use a userContent.css file in your profile folder most likely to set the system messages via a CSS rule to "display:none;"
22:22:48 <Mic> Good night
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22:27:26 <instant-buildbot> build #479 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/479
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22:29:07 <clokep> flo-retina: So jcranmer happened to be sitting next to Patrick McManus. ;)
22:29:10 <clokep> As we were talking about him.
22:29:16 <clokep> He said he's going to look at the DNS SRV stuff again...
22:30:38 <flo-retina> :)
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22:36:20 <aleth_summit> clokep: fingers crossed then ;)
22:36:40 <kkirill> the last question please, can I use message theme from the thunderbird? It is both simple and have automatic grouping.
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22:37:06 <clokep> aleth_summit: He said he's going to be writing it soon anyway. :)
22:37:09 <clokep> kkirill: Yes.
22:37:31 <aleth_summit> kkirill: I don't think anyone has packaged it for IB yet but it should be fairly trivial
22:39:01 <aleth_summit> kkirill: If you do it, upload it to AIO please :)
22:39:41 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: is that laptop doing a decent job? Or is it painful even to use Ib? :-|
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22:40:44 <aleth_summit> flo-retina: It's doing perfectly fine now (though I tried building again earlier while feeling lucky and it froze, so at least it's consistent)
22:40:45 <kkirill> aleth_summit: sure, if I find where it is stored in the thunderbird
22:41:15 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: maybe with -j1 it wouldn't freeze?
22:41:38 <aleth_summit> I've just set up a version-tracked unpacked nightly instead for now
22:41:49 <flo-retina> bah
22:42:03 <aleth_summit> flo-retina: Hmm, worth a try
22:42:15 <flo-retina> it's sad that I can't get you to play with a real 'normal' development environment for a while
22:42:41 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: cd ~/buildhg/obj-instantbird-dbg; time make -s
22:42:56 <flo-retina> that will ignore the make flags set in the mozconfig
22:43:06 <flo-retina> (you don't want to edit the mozconfig; unless you want to rebuild from scratch)
22:44:31 <aleth_summit> flo-retina: OK; I'll try that, then probably go to bed...
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22:45:59 <flo-retina> aleth_summit: if you launch it and got to bed, you can as well edit the mozconfig, and rm -rf the obj dir to be sure you are starting it from a clena state
22:46:07 <flo-retina> (it wouldn't mater if it takes an additional hour)
22:48:02 * flo-retina wonders if we should look for an empty table tomorrow at the innovation fair, and just demo Instantbird there
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22:50:43 <flo-retina> I'm puzzled by the schedule for tomorrow
22:50:52 <flo-retina> there are several sessions at the same time in the same rooms
22:51:35 <flo-retina> oh right, that's supposed to be the 'small groups' sessions, without slides, and with only half the room for each session
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22:52:41 <flo-retina> "Enter The Compartment - Gecko's Script Security Architecture Explained" hmm, seems very interesting
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22:58:40 <clokep> :) Some of them do, yes.
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23:14:10 <clokep> flo-retina: What's with the current build failure?
23:14:16 <clokep> Was that from Nils' check-in?
23:14:56 <flo-retina> it's random.
23:15:09 <clokep> OK. :)
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23:33:55 <flo-retina> clokep: what's the plan for 1.5?
23:34:57 <clokep> flo-retina: We released yesterday, did oyu miss it?!
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23:36:00 <flo-retina> clokep: yes, I was traveling :-P
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23:36:47 <flo-retina> I guess I mean: do we have any estimation for when we would like to ship? Are we still considering developing new features or should we focus strictly on bug fixes from now on? ...
23:36:50 <clokep> flo-retina: I was hoping Moz 25.
23:37:00 <flo-retina> why?
23:37:07 <flo-retina> (I thought we were targeting 24)
23:37:18 <clokep> Because I don't think it'll happen for 24. ;)
23:37:45 <flo-retina> that means another set of update pain
23:37:57 <flo-retina> especially for Windows/gmake/pymake
23:38:37 <clokep> OK! Let's target 24. What needs to be done?
23:38:50 <clokep> Someone go make a 1.5-blocking whiteboard.
23:39:13 <flo-retina> clokep: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=sw%3A1.5-blo
23:39:56 <flo-retina> + all the stuff we want to get fixed in the awesometab to think it's release-ready; or disable it (although I'm not sure what's left in the release if the awesometab is preff'ed off)
23:43:06 <clokep> flo-retina: I'd love to enable JS-Yahoo by default
23:43:15 <clokep> But not remove the libpurple one.
23:43:17 <clokep> Ah it's dinner time here.
23:43:43 <flo-retina> not sure how ready it is (we haven't moved chatdev yet...)
23:43:55 <flo-retina> enjoy dinner! :)
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