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01:58:52 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2900 on bug 2102.
01:58:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2102 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Support Server Pings
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03:15:41 <instant-buildbot> build #980 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/980
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06:36:33 <nhnt11> Autumn of code, heh
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10:19:17 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 2900 on bug 2102.
10:19:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2102 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Support Server Pings
10:19:44 <flo-retina> hello :)
10:21:47 <clokep> Hi.
10:41:36 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2899 on bug 2147.
10:41:37 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org cancelled feedback?(florian@instantbi rd.org) for attachment 2899 on bug 2147.
10:41:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2147 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Bubbles' last message sometimes doesn't auto-scroll
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12:17:54 <clokep_work> Good morning. :)
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12:31:52 <flo-retina> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/yesterday#m281 "If you mosue over it, it disappears." & "I think that happens with all apps that are forcefully closed." Isn't ctrl-c just sending a signal saying the app should terminate asap, but not killing the app?
12:39:21 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't think so, I think it kills the process.
12:39:38 <clokep_work> Regardless, I've seen this happen with Thunderbird plenty of times, even when I close it normally (or update it)
12:39:59 <flo-retina> I don't care much anyway
12:40:32 <flo-retina> I was just surprised when I expanded the tray icon list, and saw a dozen instantbird icons, and had to hover each of them to find which one was corresponding to the contacts window I wanted to reopen ;)
12:41:14 <Yoric> I believe that Ctrl-C = SIGINT, which doesn't kill the process.
12:41:18 <Yoric> (by opposition to SIGKILL)
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13:00:49 <flo-retina> re bug 2091 "The real bug here is that the join command is listed despite only existing for libpurple yahoo." Is this something we need to look into in the C/C++ side?
13:00:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2091 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, /join chatroom does not do anything.
13:04:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Possibly. I haven't looked into it...how do we register libpurple commands?
13:05:07 <flo-retina> that's likely done by the initialization code of the prpl
13:05:15 <flo-retina> which we shouldn't run if the prpl is pref'ed off
13:05:33 <flo-retina> but I suspect we init libpurple, and libpurple inits all the libpurple-prpls it knows about
13:11:36 <clokep_work> That sounds likely, yes.
13:12:10 <flo-retina> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/yahoo/libyahoo.c#343
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13:45:47 <flo-retina> I've just discovered https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String/quote
13:46:06 <flo-retina> I may have suggested in review comments using .toSource or JSON.stringify() in places where .quote would have been more appropriate
13:46:48 <clokep_work> Nice find. :) I had no idea that existed.
13:49:24 <flo-retina> what is http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircISUPPORT.jsm#39 attempting to do?
13:49:40 <flo-retina> ah, clone :-S
14:02:42 <clokep_work> Yes.
14:02:46 <clokep_work> aleth r+ed it. ;)
14:04:51 <flo-retina> stackoverflow seems to think this is the best way
14:05:07 <flo-retina> btw, what's the status of the moz24 update/do you need help with it?
14:07:32 <clokep_work> I haven't looked at it. :-[
14:08:59 <flo-retina> should we invest time in fixing the current regressions before updating again?
14:09:47 <flo-retina> I kinda would like us to be on 24 so that I could package purplexpcom for Tb, but that goal shouldn't make us pile up unfixed regressions that would put us far away from a position where shipping would feel comfortable
14:19:22 <clokep_work> Which regressions? The packaging?
14:20:34 <flo-retina> packaging tones of pointless test files, and not being able to reorder buddies
14:21:01 <clokep_work> Ah, I must have missed that second one. :-/
14:21:02 <flo-retina> bug 2144 and bug 2179
14:21:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2144 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Packaging incorrect since moz23
14:21:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2179 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, JS Error when reordering buddies inside a contact
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14:37:17 <clokep_work> Have we looked into the packaging at all?
14:37:22 <clokep_work> Seems like we'd want to fix that before mox24.
14:37:37 <flo-retina> we haven't
14:37:54 <flo-retina> well, we could hope it would fix itself with the update without us poking at it ;)
14:50:04 <clokep_work> :-D
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16:17:47 <nhnt11> Hello
16:17:55 <nhnt11> Time to finally finish that path
16:17:56 <nhnt11> patch*
16:26:45 <flo-retina> :)
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16:30:19 <qheaden> Hello.
16:30:59 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Btw, two finger swipe to switch to previous conversation hasn't been working for me anymore :(
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16:31:19 <flo-retina> has it ever worked?
16:31:26 * flo-retina uses 3 fingers.
16:31:44 <nhnt11> It used to work, yes (I have 3 finger drag turned on so that doesn't work for me)
16:34:39 <qheaden> clokep_work: We don't need to write any documentation for a project do we?
16:35:55 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I really want to postpone my final blog post till after but 2143 lands, if there's any chance of it landing this week. Is that ok or would you rather I just went ahead with the post?
16:36:50 <flo-retina> nhnt11: doesn't matter as long as the blog post is posted before Friday, and your official mentor (Mic) agrees with your plan.
16:37:37 <nhnt11> Cool
16:38:03 <flo-retina> nhnt11: can you file the bug/attach the patch to pref on auto list?
16:38:14 <nhnt11> sure, I'll do that now
16:38:29 <flo-retina> I think I have it pref'ed on here.
16:38:46 <flo-retina> I flipped the pref to demo it to Boriss :-].
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16:43:20 <clokep_work> qheaden: We documented stuff in the code, your final blog post should say how to enable this code btw.
16:43:35 <clokep_work> flo-retina: What did Boriss think?
16:44:00 <qheaden> clokep_work: Okay.
16:44:20 <flo-retina> clokep_work: she agreed to give Instantbird another try once the sort by frecency (I didn't know this word) lands.
16:44:47 <nhnt11> frecency is the term they use in the awesomebar :)
16:45:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We've used frecency in #instantbird to discuss this feature. ;)
16:46:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I've possibly skipped large parts of conversations here
16:46:36 <flo-retina> I haven't read the IRC logs of when I was in vacations
16:46:47 <flo-retina> and only part of those when I was in work weeks in Paris.
16:46:53 <clokep_work> Fair enough.
16:50:23 <qheaden> I have to go. I'll be on later when I get home.
16:53:22 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=919018 is a fun bug caused by me...kind of.
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20:01:30 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 2180 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
20:01:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2180 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this._account socket error on disconnect [regression]
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20:14:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: foudfou was asking about his patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789450
20:15:28 <flo-retina> you can steal the review if you want :-P
20:16:06 <clokep_work> I don't want to.
20:16:18 * flo-retina isn't surprised
20:16:44 <flo-retina> I don't remember how that piece of UI works, so reviewing the patch requires a significant amount of reading the Tb front-end code again :(
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20:28:33 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2901 on bug 2180.
20:28:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2180 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, this._account socket error on disconnect [regression]
20:34:44 <clokep_work> aleth: that's ugly.
20:34:50 <aleth> clokep_work: So it is.
20:47:06 <aleth> clokep_work: As a possible alternative, an executeSoon around http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircBase.jsm#193 might work
20:48:01 <aleth> The problem is we'd probably have to do it for a bunch of other gotDisconnected calls as well.
20:50:21 <flo-retina> can you explain a bit what the problem is?
20:51:21 <aleth> We try to debug log a message (from the socket) after the socket disconnects (and forgets the reference to the account)
20:52:09 <aleth> The message is (generally) the one that causes us to disconnect the socket...
20:54:21 <flo-retina> so we want to log it?
20:55:02 <aleth> I don't think that matters as we clear the log on disconnect anyway
20:55:20 <flo-retina> aleth: only on clean disconnects, right?
20:55:24 <flo-retina> or all the time? :-S
20:55:29 <aleth> Sure.
20:56:07 <flo-retina> would it work to account.DEBUG/account.WARN instead of this.DEBUG/WARN?
20:57:02 <aleth> We could cache this._account in onDataReceived, yes.
20:57:17 <aleth> But you'd end up with an ERROR message at the beginning of your next debug log ;)
20:57:29 <flo-retina> uh, really? :'(
20:57:48 <aleth> Yes, because the account is disconnected at that point.
20:58:05 <flo-retina> shouldn't that all be during accountDisconnecting?
20:58:46 <aleth> For IRC, we send QUIT and then the server confirms. We go straight to gotDisconnected
20:59:37 <aleth> (not sure what exactly you are asking)
20:59:56 <aleth> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircBase.jsm#179
21:00:55 <aleth> Adding executeSoon's there would allow the logging of that message before actually running gotDisconnected
21:01:19 <aleth> But I'm not sure it's wise.
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21:05:24 <flo-retina> is there a way to add unit tests for this without a fake irc server?
21:06:44 <aleth> I don't see how.
21:07:42 <aleth> I dislike the executeSoon idea because the server might disconnect us in the meantime and it's not clear in what order the various disconnects would be handled
21:08:16 <flo-retina> I also wonder if it could interfere with shutdown.
21:09:13 <aleth> The existing patch has the virtue of being safe ;)
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21:10:42 * flo-retina still hasn't seen the patch nhnt11 was doing 'now' 3 hours and a half ago :-S.
21:20:44 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 2181 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
21:20:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2181 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Error when choosing a non longer existing conversation in the awesome-tab
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21:26:48 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 2182 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
21:26:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Include LIST results in awesome-tab by default
21:28:00 * nhnt11 got sidetracked by some other stuff :(
21:28:19 <Mic> Hi!
21:28:24 <nhnt11> Hi Mic
21:28:33 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Sorry, looks like the patch isn't coming tonight either...
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21:32:45 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com requested review from the wind for attachment 2902 on bug 2182.
21:32:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Include LIST results in awesome-tab by default
21:35:28 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 2902 on bug 2182.
21:35:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Include LIST results in awesome-tab by default
21:36:59 <flo-retina> :)
21:37:46 <flo-retina> Mic: do you understand http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/tabbrowser-winstripe/tabbrowser-aero.css ?
21:38:25 <Mic> Any part in particular or in general? 
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21:38:57 <flo-retina> more specifically, why lines 84-94 aren't in the media query at line 13 and without the :-moz-system-metric(windows-default-theme)
21:39:24 <flo-retina> I'm trying to figure out why the lines 68-71 aren't applied for me :-S.
21:39:36 <flo-retina> I think I have aero enabled (at least I see glass everywhere)
21:39:56 <Mic> You're having Aero then, yes.
21:40:55 <flo-retina> this rule seems to be applied: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/tabbrowser-winstripe/tabbrowser.css#69
21:40:58 * nhnt11 mostly just needs to go through his changes....
21:41:21 <nhnt11> (which really aren't that many(
21:41:34 <flo-retina> which doesn't make much sense
21:42:20 <flo-retina> aha http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/jar.mn#148
21:42:23 <flo-retina> now it all makes sense!
21:42:28 <flo-retina> the -aero file is never used
21:43:06 <Mic> And we never noticed that? :(
21:43:11 <flo-retina> apparently
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21:51:25 <Mic> Lines 84-94 are separate because they should only be applied when there's no Aero Glass as it seems.
21:51:43 <Mic> Line 13 matches all default themes, including Aero Glass.
21:52:19 <flo-retina> hmm, maybe I'm confusing default and classic themes :-S
21:53:42 <Mic> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/CSS/Media_queries#-moz-windows-classic
21:53:42 <Mic> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/CSS/Media_queries#-moz-windows-default-theme
21:54:07 <flo-retina> ok, thanks
21:55:44 <Mic> Are you familiar with "not" in media queries?
21:56:10 <flo-retina> I not what it means; and hate the syntax
21:56:18 <flo-retina> *know
21:56:47 <Mic> OK, good. That is you know that it reverses everything and not just a part of the query.
21:57:27 <flo-retina> yeah
21:57:29 <Mic> It's awful, yes. That's why you can't include :-moz-system-metric(windows-default-theme) in the media query itself in line 83
21:57:48 <Mic> (or the media query equivalent of it at least;)
22:01:34 <Mic> I would have never thought of checking the manifest file by the way. Good idea :)
22:01:41 <Mic> Anything else regarding this file?
22:01:58 <flo-retina> I'm poking at it
22:02:20 <Mic> I wonder if some bugs lurk in there if it's never been used :S
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22:02:44 <flo-retina> possibly
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22:06:39 <Mic> Good night!
22:07:05 <flo-retina> Mic: good night :)
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22:15:25 <nhnt11> night
22:15:55 * nhnt11 hopes tomorrow will be a productive day
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22:25:54 <qheaden> Hello.
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22:46:41 <flo-retina> anybody knows an easy way to zoom the screen on Windows to see pixels?
22:47:13 <EionRobb> Magnifier?
22:49:00 <flo-retina> yeah, that's what I've just started using
22:49:56 <flo-retina> thanks
22:50:25 <flo-retina> I really prefer the mac solution :-/
22:50:29 <EionRobb> what's the mac solution?
22:50:37 <flo-retina> just zoom the whole screen
22:50:45 <EionRobb> it does that for me by default
22:50:47 <flo-retina> using ctrl+the touch pad
22:51:02 <flo-retina> I can enter and exit it very quickly
22:52:12 <EionRobb> there used to be a shortcut for that
22:52:22 <Mook_as> windows key + = or something like that
22:52:39 <Mook_as> but it's still magnifier and not whole-screen
22:53:07 <EionRobb> for me it's a setting,  docked, lens, full screen
22:53:11 <Mook_as> err. wait. it's fullscreen some times. aero or somthing, probably
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23:25:13 <flo-retina> Mook_as: is z-index usable in xul?
23:25:39 <Mook_as> yes; at least, somebody's setting it on our <tree> scrollbars
23:26:02 <Mook_as> I probably would trust <deck>/<stack> more though
23:26:50 <flo-retina> it's just to draw tabs above tabpanels so that the tabpanels top border isn't visible on the selected tab
23:27:20 * clokep didn't know z-index was usable anywhere. ;)
23:27:31 <flo-retina> clokep: fair enough
23:33:39 * Mook_as would suspect that wouldn't work
23:34:19 <flo-retina> nothing works
23:34:30 * clokep wonders what flo is trying ot fix.
23:34:38 <flo-retina> I just don't understand how Firefox draw the line under not-selected tabs.
23:35:02 <flo-retina> clokep: stuff that looks ugly.
23:35:38 <clokep> flo-retina: I thought it used a negative margin to move the selectede tab over it.
23:36:28 <flo-retina> clokep: that works to get the tabs above the border-bottom of the tab strip. I want the tab to be above a border-top of the tab panel.
23:36:39 <flo-retina> and the tab panel is drawn above the tab strip
23:40:07 <clokep> Oh, I see.