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00:03:23 <-- qlum has quit (Client exited) 00:43:31 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 01:11:28 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:12:21 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 01:22:50 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:48:11 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:58:52 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2900 on bug 2102. 01:58:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2102 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Support Server Pings 02:37:13 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 02:37:23 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 02:40:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 02:41:06 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 02:47:48 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:10:53 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 03:11:01 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 03:15:41 <instant-buildbot> build #980 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/980 03:50:50 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 04:03:06 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 04:14:08 <instant-buildbot> build #1003 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/1003 04:26:12 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 04:28:42 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 05:07:14 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 05:13:10 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 05:13:38 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 05:58:10 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:20:58 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:30:13 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 06:30:41 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 06:31:25 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:36:33 <nhnt11> Autumn of code, heh 06:37:30 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 06:37:54 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 06:38:22 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 06:53:53 <instant-buildbot> build #1099 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1099 07:01:27 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 07:04:56 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 07:18:45 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 07:30:28 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 07:37:55 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:38:15 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:38:24 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 07:44:26 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 07:47:25 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 07:49:06 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 08:30:58 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 08:30:58 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 08:58:21 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 09:31:08 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 09:32:42 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:32:43 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 09:34:43 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 09:43:15 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:43:45 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:44:10 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:03:57 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:03:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:16:14 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:16:14 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:19:17 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 2900 on bug 2102. 10:19:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2102 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Support Server Pings 10:19:44 <flo-retina> hello :) 10:21:47 <clokep> Hi. 10:41:36 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2899 on bug 2147. 10:41:37 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org cancelled feedback?(florian@instantbi rd.org) for attachment 2899 on bug 2147. 10:41:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2147 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Bubbles' last message sometimes doesn't auto-scroll 10:53:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:01:03 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:03:03 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:03:36 --> dew has joined #instantbird 12:10:51 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:17:54 <clokep_work> Good morning. :) 12:27:39 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:30:37 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:31:52 <flo-retina> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/yesterday#m281 "If you mosue over it, it disappears." & "I think that happens with all apps that are forcefully closed." Isn't ctrl-c just sending a signal saying the app should terminate asap, but not killing the app? 12:39:21 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't think so, I think it kills the process. 12:39:38 <clokep_work> Regardless, I've seen this happen with Thunderbird plenty of times, even when I close it normally (or update it) 12:39:59 <flo-retina> I don't care much anyway 12:40:32 <flo-retina> I was just surprised when I expanded the tray icon list, and saw a dozen instantbird icons, and had to hover each of them to find which one was corresponding to the contacts window I wanted to reopen ;) 12:41:14 <Yoric> I believe that Ctrl-C = SIGINT, which doesn't kill the process. 12:41:18 <Yoric> (by opposition to SIGKILL) 12:41:49 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:00:49 <flo-retina> re bug 2091 "The real bug here is that the join command is listed despite only existing for libpurple yahoo." Is this something we need to look into in the C/C++ side? 13:00:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2091 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, /join chatroom does not do anything. 13:04:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Possibly. I haven't looked into it...how do we register libpurple commands? 13:05:07 <flo-retina> that's likely done by the initialization code of the prpl 13:05:15 <flo-retina> which we shouldn't run if the prpl is pref'ed off 13:05:33 <flo-retina> but I suspect we init libpurple, and libpurple inits all the libpurple-prpls it knows about 13:11:36 <clokep_work> That sounds likely, yes. 13:12:10 <flo-retina> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/yahoo/libyahoo.c#343 13:32:34 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:45:47 <flo-retina> I've just discovered https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String/quote 13:46:06 <flo-retina> I may have suggested in review comments using .toSource or JSON.stringify() in places where .quote would have been more appropriate 13:46:48 <clokep_work> Nice find. :) I had no idea that existed. 13:49:24 <flo-retina> what is http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircISUPPORT.jsm#39 attempting to do? 13:49:40 <flo-retina> ah, clone :-S 14:02:42 <clokep_work> Yes. 14:02:46 <clokep_work> aleth r+ed it. ;) 14:04:51 <flo-retina> stackoverflow seems to think this is the best way 14:05:07 <flo-retina> btw, what's the status of the moz24 update/do you need help with it? 14:07:32 <clokep_work> I haven't looked at it. :-[ 14:08:59 <flo-retina> should we invest time in fixing the current regressions before updating again? 14:09:47 <flo-retina> I kinda would like us to be on 24 so that I could package purplexpcom for Tb, but that goal shouldn't make us pile up unfixed regressions that would put us far away from a position where shipping would feel comfortable 14:19:22 <clokep_work> Which regressions? The packaging? 14:20:34 <flo-retina> packaging tones of pointless test files, and not being able to reorder buddies 14:21:01 <clokep_work> Ah, I must have missed that second one. :-/ 14:21:02 <flo-retina> bug 2144 and bug 2179 14:21:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2144 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Packaging incorrect since moz23 14:21:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2179 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, JS Error when reordering buddies inside a contact 14:33:56 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:37:17 <clokep_work> Have we looked into the packaging at all? 14:37:22 <clokep_work> Seems like we'd want to fix that before mox24. 14:37:37 <flo-retina> we haven't 14:37:54 <flo-retina> well, we could hope it would fix itself with the update without us poking at it ;) 14:50:04 <clokep_work> :-D 16:17:33 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:17:47 <nhnt11> Hello 16:17:55 <nhnt11> Time to finally finish that path 16:17:56 <nhnt11> patch* 16:26:45 <flo-retina> :) 16:29:02 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:29:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:30:19 <qheaden> Hello. 16:30:59 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Btw, two finger swipe to switch to previous conversation hasn't been working for me anymore :( 16:31:11 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:31:17 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:31:19 <flo-retina> has it ever worked? 16:31:26 * flo-retina uses 3 fingers. 16:31:44 <nhnt11> It used to work, yes (I have 3 finger drag turned on so that doesn't work for me) 16:34:39 <qheaden> clokep_work: We don't need to write any documentation for a project do we? 16:35:55 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I really want to postpone my final blog post till after but 2143 lands, if there's any chance of it landing this week. Is that ok or would you rather I just went ahead with the post? 16:36:50 <flo-retina> nhnt11: doesn't matter as long as the blog post is posted before Friday, and your official mentor (Mic) agrees with your plan. 16:37:37 <nhnt11> Cool 16:38:03 <flo-retina> nhnt11: can you file the bug/attach the patch to pref on auto list? 16:38:14 <nhnt11> sure, I'll do that now 16:38:29 <flo-retina> I think I have it pref'ed on here. 16:38:46 <flo-retina> I flipped the pref to demo it to Boriss :-]. 16:39:15 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:43:20 <clokep_work> qheaden: We documented stuff in the code, your final blog post should say how to enable this code btw. 16:43:35 <clokep_work> flo-retina: What did Boriss think? 16:44:00 <qheaden> clokep_work: Okay. 16:44:20 <flo-retina> clokep_work: she agreed to give Instantbird another try once the sort by frecency (I didn't know this word) lands. 16:44:47 <nhnt11> frecency is the term they use in the awesomebar :) 16:45:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We've used frecency in #instantbird to discuss this feature. ;) 16:46:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I've possibly skipped large parts of conversations here 16:46:36 <flo-retina> I haven't read the IRC logs of when I was in vacations 16:46:47 <flo-retina> and only part of those when I was in work weeks in Paris. 16:46:53 <clokep_work> Fair enough. 16:50:23 <qheaden> I have to go. I'll be on later when I get home. 16:53:22 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=919018 is a fun bug caused by me...kind of. 16:58:26 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 16:58:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 17:02:54 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:08:18 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 17:09:53 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:19:56 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 17:47:33 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:56:23 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:59:23 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 18:43:00 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 18:52:00 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:05:02 --> foudfou has joined #instantbird 19:06:31 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 19:08:02 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:11:01 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 19:20:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:20:58 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:58:41 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:00:18 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 20:00:24 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:00:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:01:30 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 2180 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 20:01:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2180 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this._account socket error on disconnect [regression] 20:10:35 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:10:35 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 20:14:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: foudfou was asking about his patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789450 20:15:28 <flo-retina> you can steal the review if you want :-P 20:16:06 <clokep_work> I don't want to. 20:16:18 * flo-retina isn't surprised 20:16:44 <flo-retina> I don't remember how that piece of UI works, so reviewing the patch requires a significant amount of reading the Tb front-end code again :( 20:23:27 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 20:25:10 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 20:25:21 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:25:22 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:27:47 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:28:33 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2901 on bug 2180. 20:28:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2180 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, this._account socket error on disconnect [regression] 20:34:44 <clokep_work> aleth: that's ugly. 20:34:50 <aleth> clokep_work: So it is. 20:47:06 <aleth> clokep_work: As a possible alternative, an executeSoon around http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircBase.jsm#193 might work 20:48:01 <aleth> The problem is we'd probably have to do it for a bunch of other gotDisconnected calls as well. 20:50:21 <flo-retina> can you explain a bit what the problem is? 20:51:21 <aleth> We try to debug log a message (from the socket) after the socket disconnects (and forgets the reference to the account) 20:52:09 <aleth> The message is (generally) the one that causes us to disconnect the socket... 20:54:21 <flo-retina> so we want to log it? 20:55:02 <aleth> I don't think that matters as we clear the log on disconnect anyway 20:55:20 <flo-retina> aleth: only on clean disconnects, right? 20:55:24 <flo-retina> or all the time? :-S 20:55:29 <aleth> Sure. 20:56:07 <flo-retina> would it work to account.DEBUG/account.WARN instead of this.DEBUG/WARN? 20:57:02 <aleth> We could cache this._account in onDataReceived, yes. 20:57:17 <aleth> But you'd end up with an ERROR message at the beginning of your next debug log ;) 20:57:29 <flo-retina> uh, really? :'( 20:57:48 <aleth> Yes, because the account is disconnected at that point. 20:58:05 <flo-retina> shouldn't that all be during accountDisconnecting? 20:58:46 <aleth> For IRC, we send QUIT and then the server confirms. We go straight to gotDisconnected 20:59:37 <aleth> (not sure what exactly you are asking) 20:59:56 <aleth> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircBase.jsm#179 21:00:55 <aleth> Adding executeSoon's there would allow the logging of that message before actually running gotDisconnected 21:01:19 <aleth> But I'm not sure it's wise. 21:02:41 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:02:41 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:03:38 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:05:24 <flo-retina> is there a way to add unit tests for this without a fake irc server? 21:06:44 <aleth> I don't see how. 21:07:42 <aleth> I dislike the executeSoon idea because the server might disconnect us in the meantime and it's not clear in what order the various disconnects would be handled 21:08:16 <flo-retina> I also wonder if it could interfere with shutdown. 21:09:13 <aleth> The existing patch has the virtue of being safe ;) 21:09:48 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:10:42 * flo-retina still hasn't seen the patch nhnt11 was doing 'now' 3 hours and a half ago :-S. 21:20:44 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 2181 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 21:20:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2181 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Error when choosing a non longer existing conversation in the awesome-tab 21:25:37 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 21:26:48 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 2182 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 21:26:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Include LIST results in awesome-tab by default 21:28:00 * nhnt11 got sidetracked by some other stuff :( 21:28:19 <Mic> Hi! 21:28:24 <nhnt11> Hi Mic 21:28:33 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Sorry, looks like the patch isn't coming tonight either... 21:29:45 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 21:32:45 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com requested review from the wind for attachment 2902 on bug 2182. 21:32:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Include LIST results in awesome-tab by default 21:35:28 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 2902 on bug 2182. 21:35:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2182 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Include LIST results in awesome-tab by default 21:36:59 <flo-retina> :) 21:37:46 <flo-retina> Mic: do you understand http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/tabbrowser-winstripe/tabbrowser-aero.css ? 21:38:25 <Mic> Any part in particular or in general? 21:38:37 <-- foudfou has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0) 21:38:57 <flo-retina> more specifically, why lines 84-94 aren't in the media query at line 13 and without the :-moz-system-metric(windows-default-theme) 21:39:24 <flo-retina> I'm trying to figure out why the lines 68-71 aren't applied for me :-S. 21:39:36 <flo-retina> I think I have aero enabled (at least I see glass everywhere) 21:39:56 <Mic> You're having Aero then, yes. 21:40:55 <flo-retina> this rule seems to be applied: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/tabbrowser-winstripe/tabbrowser.css#69 21:40:58 * nhnt11 mostly just needs to go through his changes.... 21:41:21 <nhnt11> (which really aren't that many( 21:41:34 <flo-retina> which doesn't make much sense 21:42:20 <flo-retina> aha http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/jar.mn#148 21:42:23 <flo-retina> now it all makes sense! 21:42:28 <flo-retina> the -aero file is never used 21:43:06 <Mic> And we never noticed that? :( 21:43:11 <flo-retina> apparently 21:44:56 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:51:25 <Mic> Lines 84-94 are separate because they should only be applied when there's no Aero Glass as it seems. 21:51:43 <Mic> Line 13 matches all default themes, including Aero Glass. 21:52:19 <flo-retina> hmm, maybe I'm confusing default and classic themes :-S 21:53:42 <Mic> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/CSS/Media_queries#-moz-windows-classic 21:53:42 <Mic> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/CSS/Media_queries#-moz-windows-default-theme 21:54:07 <flo-retina> ok, thanks 21:55:44 <Mic> Are you familiar with "not" in media queries? 21:56:10 <flo-retina> I not what it means; and hate the syntax 21:56:18 <flo-retina> *know 21:56:47 <Mic> OK, good. That is you know that it reverses everything and not just a part of the query. 21:57:27 <flo-retina> yeah 21:57:29 <Mic> It's awful, yes. That's why you can't include :-moz-system-metric(windows-default-theme) in the media query itself in line 83 21:57:48 <Mic> (or the media query equivalent of it at least;) 22:01:34 <Mic> I would have never thought of checking the manifest file by the way. Good idea :) 22:01:41 <Mic> Anything else regarding this file? 22:01:58 <flo-retina> I'm poking at it 22:02:20 <Mic> I wonder if some bugs lurk in there if it's never been used :S 22:02:31 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 22:02:44 <flo-retina> possibly 22:02:52 <-- qlum has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:06:39 <Mic> Good night! 22:07:05 <flo-retina> Mic: good night :) 22:07:50 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:10:53 --> Even has joined #instantbird 22:10:53 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 22:15:25 <nhnt11> night 22:15:55 * nhnt11 hopes tomorrow will be a productive day 22:15:57 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:18:08 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 22:18:15 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: nhnt11) 22:24:07 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:25:54 <qheaden> Hello. 22:36:06 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:46:41 <flo-retina> anybody knows an easy way to zoom the screen on Windows to see pixels? 22:47:13 <EionRobb> Magnifier? 22:49:00 <flo-retina> yeah, that's what I've just started using 22:49:56 <flo-retina> thanks 22:50:25 <flo-retina> I really prefer the mac solution :-/ 22:50:29 <EionRobb> what's the mac solution? 22:50:37 <flo-retina> just zoom the whole screen 22:50:45 <EionRobb> it does that for me by default 22:50:47 <flo-retina> using ctrl+the touch pad 22:51:02 <flo-retina> I can enter and exit it very quickly 22:52:12 <EionRobb> there used to be a shortcut for that 22:52:22 <Mook_as> windows key + = or something like that 22:52:39 <Mook_as> but it's still magnifier and not whole-screen 22:53:07 <EionRobb> for me it's a setting, docked, lens, full screen 22:53:11 <Mook_as> err. wait. it's fullscreen some times. aero or somthing, probably 23:20:40 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:20:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:25:13 <flo-retina> Mook_as: is z-index usable in xul? 23:25:39 <Mook_as> yes; at least, somebody's setting it on our <tree> scrollbars 23:26:02 <Mook_as> I probably would trust <deck>/<stack> more though 23:26:50 <flo-retina> it's just to draw tabs above tabpanels so that the tabpanels top border isn't visible on the selected tab 23:27:20 * clokep didn't know z-index was usable anywhere. ;) 23:27:31 <flo-retina> clokep: fair enough 23:33:39 * Mook_as would suspect that wouldn't work 23:34:19 <flo-retina> nothing works 23:34:30 * clokep wonders what flo is trying ot fix. 23:34:38 <flo-retina> I just don't understand how Firefox draw the line under not-selected tabs. 23:35:02 <flo-retina> clokep: stuff that looks ugly. 23:35:38 <clokep> flo-retina: I thought it used a negative margin to move the selectede tab over it. 23:36:28 <flo-retina> clokep: that works to get the tabs above the border-bottom of the tab strip. I want the tab to be above a border-top of the tab panel. 23:36:39 <flo-retina> and the tab panel is drawn above the tab strip 23:40:07 <clokep> Oh, I see.