#instantbird log on 09 22 2013

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03:12:20 <instant-buildbot> build #978 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/978
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12:18:36 <clokep> aleth: We don't actually send the "Password" as the server password ever anymore, right?
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12:42:04 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 2898 on bug 608.
12:42:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, Exception from buddies of an unknown account type
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14:10:29 <flo-retina> it looks like we will soon get rid of the annoying error for buddies of unknown protocols :)
14:10:35 <flo-retina> thanks for the review clokep :)
14:11:34 <clokep> You're welcome.
14:12:22 <flo-retina> I'm replying to that guy about the password
14:12:27 <flo-retina> I dislike his latest comment :-P
14:13:37 <clokep> OK.
14:14:32 <flo-retina> he knows it all but got his facts wrong (especially about prefs.js :-P)
14:17:58 <clokep> flo-retina: What do you mean?
14:18:05 <clokep> The serverPassword is stored without being encrypted
14:18:11 <flo-retina> ah
14:18:14 <flo-retina> that's what he meant?
14:18:20 <clokep> Yes.
14:18:31 <flo-retina> bah, that guy annoys me.
14:18:58 <flo-retina> would we accept a patch to store the server password in the password manager?
14:19:09 <clokep> Yes.
14:19:10 <flo-retina> or would we r- because of unnecessary complication?
14:19:16 <flo-retina> (I suspect the latter)
14:19:26 <flo-retina> I would be much more interested in storing the irc channel passwords there
14:19:36 <dew> hmm I was wondering that myself
14:20:39 <clokep> flo-retina: I would like to accept a patch that enabled the 'masked' pref option to do something and store the values in the password manager and then show serverPassword in the UI using this technique.
14:20:49 <clokep> Yes, IRC channel passwords should be stored there too.
14:21:36 <flo-retina> ah, makes sense
14:22:15 <flo-retina> so you think the server password is worth showing in the UI?
14:22:39 <flo-retina> this is the reply I'm about to send: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/354786
14:23:38 <flo-thinkpad> python client.py checkout took 61m, and make -f client.mk build took 184m here :(
14:24:00 <flo-thinkpad> we really need to switch to pymake and stop building with j1 :(
14:25:27 <flo-thinkpad> (the CPU here is an i7 with hyper threading, so 8 execution threads...)
14:27:35 <clokep> flo-retina: I'm unsure, it's really confusing how there's two separate passwords and we really can't just use one field for it since theoretically you could need both.
14:27:53 <clokep> Why haven't we switched to pymake?
14:28:57 <flo-thinkpad> as far as I remember, make distribute doesn't work with it
14:29:01 <clokep> flo-retina: Your comment makes sense, btw the reason we wanted SASL instead of PASS is that SASL is encrypted to some degree. :)
14:29:07 <clokep> While PASS sends it in plaintext.
14:29:15 <clokep> Which is insecure over a non-ssl connection, obviously.
14:29:26 <clokep> (Maybe "more insecure" is a better way of phrasing it.)
14:29:40 <flo-thinkpad> likely in the part that generates partial mar files
14:30:02 <flo-retina> generating build symbols works on my windows build
14:30:06 <flo-retina> I guess that's good news
14:30:28 <flo-retina> I'll be able to add debug logging to symbolstore.py both on the thinkpad and on the Windows VM, and compare what's going on
14:30:50 <flo-retina> clokep: so would it make sense to keep sending the account password with the PASS command if we are connected over SSL?
14:31:06 <flo-retina> clokep: I'll post the comment as is and let you comment on the insecurity of PASS if you feel like it.
14:35:53 <clokep> flo-retina: Possibly, we discussed adding an option like XMPP's connection security option instead of just an SSL checkbox.
14:36:38 <flo-retina> clokep: it's annoying that the user has to manually change the port when enabling ssl
14:36:50 <flo-retina> xmpp is a bit different as it can start unencrypted and start tls later
14:37:11 <clokep> Right.
14:37:47 * clokep wonders if http://ircv3.atheme.org/extensions/tls-3.1 is pretty much that for IRC?
14:37:51 <clokep> But I have no idea how supported it is.
14:37:59 <clokep> (I.e. I wouldn't want to depend on it.
14:39:36 * clokep needs to go...
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19:57:20 <instant-buildbot> build #1096 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1096
19:58:06 <flo-retina> ah, killing make "completed" the build :-P
19:58:39 <flo-retina> command timed out: 7200 seconds without output, attempting to kill
19:58:39 <flo-retina> make: *** [distribution] Error 1
19:58:40 <flo-retina> program finished with exit code 2
19:58:40 <flo-retina> elapsedTime=112120.709000
19:58:57 <flo-retina> interesting between the 7200s timeout, and the 112120s time actually spent :-P
19:59:04 <flo-retina> *interesting difference
20:03:28 <flo-retina> and now my terminal is frozen...
20:08:12 <flo-retina> I think I fixed it
20:08:20 <flo-retina> if so, that was one of the most stupid bugs ever! :)
20:09:23 <flo-retina> (a wrong path in a file that is automatically re-generated by buildbot only if it doesn't exist; and that got copied from the old VM where the build dirs were in e:\ (they are now in d:\))
20:15:56 * flo-retina started a new nightly
20:17:55 <clokep> :-D
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21:05:12 <flo-retina> hmm, I probably shouldn't have launched a nightly
21:05:20 <flo-retina> it looks like the "compile" step takes 4 hours
21:05:43 <flo-retina> so I'll already be asleep when it will finish, and another 'normal' nightly will start an hour or so later
21:06:45 <clokep> Will /I/ be asleep when it finishes? ;)
21:08:23 <flo-retina> how much of a difference will it make to you to have a new nightly just before going to bed, or just after waking up?
21:09:49 <clokep> I'll be a bit happier when going to bed. :)
21:14:15 <flo-retina> unless you discover the nightly is horribly broken for some reason ;)
21:14:24 * clokep cries.
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21:19:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2179 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
21:19:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2179 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, JS Error when reordering buddies inside a contact
21:19:36 <flo-retina> I don't think we filed that yesterday
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23:11:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3539548179c3 - Nihanth Subramanya - Bug 2175 - Buddy icons for contacts are not updated in the new conversation tab, r=Mic.
23:11:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8d4d3e2c9620 - aleth - Bug 2173 - Clicking the topic in the header of an IRC channel with no topic and focusing something else without typing anything clears the topic, r=clokep.
23:11:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bc3b4cd331a1 - Nihanth Subramanya - Bug 2168 - Tab key doesn't behave as expected in the new conversation tab, r=Mic.
23:11:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/00e2fbdac752 - Florian Quèze - Bug 608 - Exception from buddies of an unknown account type, r=clokep.
23:11:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/81769e707fe7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 2171 - bubbles shouldn't fade in when displayed in the log viewer, r=aleth.
23:13:38 <instant-buildbot> build #459 of win32-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/459  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>, aleth <aleth@instantbird.org>, Nihanth Subramanya <nhnt11@gmail.com>
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23:36:12 <clokep> flo-retina: :'(
23:36:14 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2171 to FIXED.
23:36:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2171 nor, --, 1.5, florian, RESO FIXED, bubbles shouldn't fade in when displayed in the log viewer
23:36:45 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 608 to FIXED.
23:36:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608 nor, --, 1.5, florian, RESO FIXED, Exception from buddies of an unknown account type
23:37:26 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2168 to FIXED.
23:37:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2168 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Tab key doesn't behave as expected in the new conversation tab.
23:38:07 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2173 to FIXED.
23:38:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2173 min, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Clicking the topic in the header of an IRC channel with no topic and focusing something else without
23:38:47 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2175 to FIXED.
23:38:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2175 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Buddy icons for contacts are not updated in the new conversation tab
23:44:20 <qheaden> Hello.
23:44:45 <qheaden> clokep: Well, tomorrow's the big day.
23:44:57 <clokep> qheaden: I know. :)
23:45:10 <qheaden> Of course not the end for JS-Yahoo though. :)
23:45:12 <clokep> Nervous? :P
23:45:16 <qheaden> We just want Google to think that. ;)
23:45:29 <EionRobb> silly soc cutoffs :)
23:45:31 <clokep> :)
23:45:41 * qheaden hopes he passes eval. ;)
23:45:49 <clokep> I find the timing somehwat inconvenient. I'll need to try to fill out all the forms tomorrow...
23:45:50 * nhnt11 is a bit sad he didn't get to write any code on the last day
23:45:58 <instant-buildbot> build #468 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/468
23:46:17 <qheaden> nhnt11: So are you going to continue Ib contributions after GSoC is over?
23:46:25 <nhnt11> of course
23:46:27 <clokep> nhnt11: So write it tomorrow or this week. :)
23:46:34 <clokep> It's just a deadline, they don't mean anything. ;)
23:46:35 <qheaden> Same here. :)
23:46:43 * clokep teaches bad habits to students.
23:46:47 <qheaden> :P
23:47:22 <nhnt11> clokep: I know, but still :P
23:48:32 <clokep> The day isn't over! :)
23:48:34 <clokep> At least not for me.
23:48:37 <clokep> So you've got a few hours.
23:49:10 <nhnt11> clokep: Nah, I've got to finish this report, and then (hopefully) a couple hours' sleep before lab.
23:50:42 <clokep> :) Understood.
23:58:01 <instant-buildbot> build #469 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/469