#instantbird log on 09 18 2013

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03:19:28 <instant-buildbot> build #974 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/974
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09:13:07 <Mic> Hi
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10:10:31 <instant-buildbot> build #1087 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1087
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10:33:02 <clokep> Hello.l
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11:18:35 <Coyran> Hi!
11:20:16 <Coyran> My ICQ account can't connect today. Am I the only one?
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11:20:53 <Mic> Hello Coyran
11:21:12 <Coyran> hello =)
11:21:17 <Mic> My ICQ account connects and works fine.
11:22:05 <Coyran> Ok. It's something on my side than. Strange. Official ICQ client works just fine now...
11:22:32 <Coyran> thanks)
11:22:42 <Mic> Which version of Instantbird are you running by the way?
11:22:57 <Coyran> 1.4 (20130516232436)
11:23:46 <Coyran> jabber account in instantbird works fine by the way
11:24:14 <Mic> You can also find the libpurple version on the About dialog (below the IB version).
11:24:27 <Mic> Is it also 2.10.7 for IB 1.4?
11:24:32 <Coyran> 2.10.7
11:24:39 <Coyran> yes
11:26:04 <Mic> OK, that means there's no difference between your and my libpurple versions. Maybe it's a quirk of a server and goes away soon?
11:28:20 <Mic> I need to go again, have a nice day.
11:28:56 <Coyran> you too)
11:29:09 <Mic> If you've got other questions just ask and wait if nobody's active. It might take some time but sooner or later someone will answer.
11:29:37 <Coyran> thank you
11:29:43 <Coyran> I found error log
11:29:50 <Coyran> this error: Метка времени: 18.09.2013 15:24:10 Ошибка: Handshake failed  (-8180)  Источник: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/raw-file/d7dad56f3a8b/purple/libpurple/ssl-nss.c Строка: 332 Исходный код: nss: ssl_nss_handshake_cb
11:30:11 <Coyran> sorry it's partly in russian, but I can't change language
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12:03:17 <clokep_> Coyran: It's purposefully in Russian. ;) Looks like there's an invalid certificate on whatever server you're hitting.
12:03:47 <clokep_> I think the only way around that is to hope the server changes at some point or to disable cert checking (or maybe disable SSL).
12:03:52 <clokep_> Not sure exactly what options ICQ has.
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12:54:17 <Coyran> server slogin.icq.com, port 5190
12:54:39 <Coyran> but I did nothing with settings and it worked before...
12:55:03 <Coyran> encoding CP1251
12:56:19 <Coyran> I tried to turn off encrypting too, but it didn't help
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13:18:51 <Mic|web> :o
13:19:09 <Mic|web> We should be able to use arrow functions since the update to Moz 22.
13:20:31 <Mic|web> It's still experimental tbh.
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14:34:13 <clokep_> Coyran: Yes, but that doesn't mean the server didn't change or that you're not connecting to a different server now. :)
14:36:52 <clokep_> Mic: I have to look again...but last time I looked I didn't really like the arrow functions IIRC.
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14:47:17 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 2895 on bug 2136.
14:47:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2136 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Yahoo! Mobile status not taken into account
14:48:18 <Coyran> Yes, it doesn't. =) What are your ICQ server settings (with which you can connect)? Are they the same as mine?
14:49:00 <clokep_> Mine were the default, I don't know if I can connect right now.
14:49:53 * clokep_ just got an IRCCloud invite? :-S
14:51:02 <Coyran> ok. I need to go, bye
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15:09:55 <clokep_work> instant-buildbot: Status
15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: offline
15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: offline
15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: offline
15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: offline
15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: building(compiling) [ETA 30m59s]
15:09:57 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 104h56m46s ago: failed compile
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16:21:19 <aleth> instant-buildbot: status
16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: offline
16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: offline
16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: idle, last build 12h44m17s ago: build successful
16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: idle, last build 124h43m59s ago: build successful
16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: building(distributing...) [ETA 13m01s]
16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 106h08m10s ago: failed compile
16:23:36 <aleth> That already sounds better than "failed compile" ;)
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16:58:12 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2178 filed by jahkae@gmail.com.
16:58:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2178 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Copy and paste messages sends strange information
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16:59:53 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2178 to DUPLICATE of bug 2141.
16:59:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2141 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Don't include ib-sender span in magic copy
17:01:19 <flo-retina> hmm, so the windows VM is failing consistently on the distribute step with a timeout, without any output?
17:01:33 * flo-retina wonders if Even put the ssh key on the new VM.
17:10:32 <clokep_work> Hello flo-retina. :)
17:12:25 <flo-retina> hello :)
17:17:39 <clokep_work> Yes, still no nightly. :(
17:17:51 <clokep_work> My Moz 24 build got to chat/ before dying, so that's a good sign.
17:18:04 <flo-retina> do you need help with the way it died?
17:18:16 <flo-retina> or just more time to look at it?
17:18:33 * flo-retina is disappointed he didn't get any time to review the ranking patch :(.
17:19:29 <clokep_work> I didn't have time to look at it more unfortunately. :-/
17:19:52 * aleth hopes to take a look at that patch later
17:20:45 <aleth> In the unlikely case that nhnt11 is bored there are still a couple of smaller followup bugs around ;)
17:22:03 <aleth> clokep_work: Is there anything exciting in moz24?
17:23:44 <clokep_work> aleth: no idea. :)
17:24:55 * aleth looks
17:26:50 <aleth> string.repeat(), a bunch of constructors for DOM interfaces that were missing, and something called FocusEvent interface that I'm not sure what is good for
17:27:21 <clokep_work> string.repeat just repeats a string a bunch of times?
17:27:27 <aleth> Yup.
17:27:30 <clokep_work> (And concats?)
17:27:57 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String/repeat
17:28:16 <aleth> Can't offhand think of a use case we have for it though...
17:29:59 <clokep_work> Right.
17:30:05 <clokep_work> Kind of strange, yes.
17:30:46 <Mook_as> so it's python's ("=" * 10)? (mainly useful for headings in plain text...)
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17:34:47 <Mic> Hello
17:35:16 <Mook_as> Hihi
17:35:31 <clokep_work> Hey, hey.
17:49:25 <Mic> Arrow functions are just a bit shorter.
17:50:21 <Mic> Not much, though: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/347123
17:51:39 <instant-buildbot> build #1088 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1088
17:51:41 <Mic> The first two examples use the difference in "this" that exists between normal functions and arrow functions.
17:51:57 <aleth> Mic: I suppose that's the main advantage, that you don't need bind()
17:52:06 <Mic> Yes, I think so too.
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17:54:02 <clokep_work> Mic: I dislike how there's no keyword anymore.
17:54:36 <Mic> There is no keyword. There is only =>.
17:55:33 <clokep_work> Isn't that what I just said? ;)
17:56:25 <Mic> http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
17:56:32 <Mic> That was a reference to this ;)
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17:58:16 <clokep_work> Ah. :)
17:59:33 <aleth> You can recurse it too, like x => x => x => x :P
18:00:04 <Mic> I think that's only chaining the functions.
18:00:28 <aleth> Sure, it returns a function that returns a function etc
18:01:43 <aleth> A new way to obfuscate code :D
18:01:48 <Mic> Absolutely.
18:03:17 <Mic> Here's a recursion: let f = x => x > 1 ? x * f(x-1) : 1;
18:03:34 <Mic> Totally unreadable, isn't it? :D
18:03:38 <aleth> Oh yeah, that's more like it!
18:07:38 <Mic> You can use default values for the parameters ... even more obfuscation ;)
18:08:14 <aleth> It's a shame you can't also use <= for something... ;)
18:09:13 <Mic> Ha, why not?
18:09:20 <Mic> let f = x => x <= 1 ? 1: x * f(x-1);
18:09:44 <aleth> :D
18:10:51 <Mic> Maybe #chatdev would be more appropriate for this ;)
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18:35:53 <nhnt11> Good evening
18:36:00 <nhnt11> (er, night?)
18:38:37 <clokep_work> Good morning. ;)
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18:39:18 * Mook_as is surprised it's still morning where clokep_work is
18:39:24 <aleth> It's probably good morning for rosonline ;)
18:39:48 <rosonline> No... It's afternoon here
18:39:59 <rosonline> 16h
18:40:06 <rosonline> 4:00 PM
18:41:19 <aleth> My bad.
18:45:36 <aleth> nhnt11: Re txt logs, here's one http://pastebin.instantbird.com/347220.
18:46:14 <nhnt11> aleth: Ah.
18:46:19 <nhnt11> That's going to be hard to parse...
18:46:24 <clokep_work> Mook_as: It's not, I'm 3 hours in front of you, it's afternoon.
18:46:25 <aleth> Don't even try.
18:46:29 <nhnt11> Right
18:46:41 <clokep_work> nhnt11: aleth Does wnayes have code that parses those?
18:47:04 <Mook_as> yes. hence my surprise... and my failed /ctcp time :p
18:47:12 <aleth> clokep_work: It's possible but I don't think so. I can't remember though
18:47:40 <aleth> I don't think he wrote an importer for Instantbird
18:48:03 * nhnt11 will be back to work tomorrow evening
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19:50:33 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't think he's got an importer from Ib, but IIRC he's got one for Pidgin.
19:50:49 <flo-retina> third email about 'additional chat protocols for Tb' being broken :-/.
19:50:56 <flo-retina> s/broken/not updated/
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21:34:45 <instant-buildbot> build #1090 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1090
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21:39:49 <Even> strange problem with the windows builder
21:40:24 <Even> right now, when the distribute starts, it executes mozilla/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py
21:40:27 <Even> with tons of options
21:41:03 <Even> this process spawns a lot of processes called "dump_syms_vc1600.exe" that seems to be located in  mozilla/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/win32/
21:41:37 <Even> and they hang there not doing anything (at least they don't look like doing anything : fix RAM usage & CPU in process explorer.
21:46:38 <flo-retina> i saw one of them using 30% or so CPU, and more memory than the others
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23:45:12 <clokep> Hello. :)
23:45:36 <flo-retina> " Recently, Mozilla released Thunderbird 24, a relatively small feature release but which unfortunately advanced the major version number beyond 17. Would it possible for you to release a new version of the chat protocol add-on with an open ended version compatibility marker?" bah...
23:46:13 <clokep> No, it's not possible. :)
23:46:14 <flo-retina> clokep: would it be possible for you to run |make buildsymbols| in the objdir of a non-debug moz23 build to see if that works or hangs?
23:46:32 <flo-retina> possibly with a build made with gmake rather than pymake
23:46:34 <clokep> flo-retina: I don't have a non-debug build nor a moz23 buiuld. :(
23:46:38 <flo-retina> (as we use gmake on the build slaves)
23:46:45 <clokep> I don't think building with gmake works on my system.
23:46:48 <clokep> I'll try in a few minutes though.
23:46:48 <flo-retina> clokep: I meant you've got a Windows machine and a compiler :-P
23:46:53 <flo-retina> why wouldn't it work?
23:46:59 <flo-retina> you need to do it with -j1 of course
23:47:52 <flo-retina> any idea of which mailing list address I should cc for the answer to that email about the tb add-on?
23:47:57 <flo-retina> do we have a chat-support group or something?
23:48:50 * flo-retina is disappointed that we still can't produce windows nightly :(
23:49:03 <flo-retina> Even is really puzzled about what's going on.
23:49:55 <flo-retina> My guessed are: 1. maybe the build sysmbols script is broken on Windows since the moz23 update? 2. Maybe that script does a -j<something> automatically and no longer works with gmake?
23:50:13 <flo-retina> however both of these guesses don't explain why we had _one_ working nightly on the previous VM...
23:50:14 <flo-retina> :(
23:52:24 <clokep> flo-retina: dev-chat would probably work?
23:52:48 <clokep> flo-retina: I think the paths get funky in gmake.
23:53:33 <flo-retina> clokep: they certainly do in pymake
23:53:43 <flo-retina> that's likely even one of the reasons why we don't use it
23:53:48 <clokep> Funky in a "the ydon't work on Windows" way in gmake.
23:53:50 <flo-retina> (during the distribute step)
23:53:50 <clokep> At least not for me.
23:55:53 <clokep> OK, I'm updating Mozilla back to 23....
23:55:53 <flo-retina> I don't think you usually |make distribute| locally
23:55:59 <clokep> I didn't say I did.
23:56:15 <flo-retina> and even if you do, you likely do it without the environment variables that cause it to build symbols or generate mar files
23:56:41 <flo-retina> you don't have enough disk space to just clone the source tree somewhere else so that it doesn't disturb your current moz24 work? :(
23:57:02 <clokep> I just changed the obj-dir.
23:57:10 <clokep> I have enough disk space but this was faster.
23:57:37 <flo-retina> but you will rebuild moz24 from scratch after updating the source tree again, as all the timestamps will be newer
23:57:58 <clokep> No, I'll do a tier_app build.
23:58:24 <flo-retina> fair enough :)
23:58:48 <flo-retina> I'm looking forward to having a nightly on moz24, so that I can steal the purplexpcom files from it and package that as a tb add-on :-D
23:59:24 <clokep> Hahah.
23:59:33 <clokep> What this does mean...I won't get to work on Moz 24 tonight.
23:59:40 <clokep> Not that I could either way, my system can't handle two builds at once.
23:59:58 <flo-retina> building tier_app shouldn't cause too much effort for your system ;)