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Am I the only one? 11:20:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:20:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:20:53 <Mic> Hello Coyran 11:21:12 <Coyran> hello =) 11:21:17 <Mic> My ICQ account connects and works fine. 11:22:05 <Coyran> Ok. It's something on my side than. Strange. Official ICQ client works just fine now... 11:22:32 <Coyran> thanks) 11:22:42 <Mic> Which version of Instantbird are you running by the way? 11:22:57 <Coyran> 1.4 (20130516232436) 11:23:46 <Coyran> jabber account in instantbird works fine by the way 11:24:14 <Mic> You can also find the libpurple version on the About dialog (below the IB version). 11:24:27 <Mic> Is it also 2.10.7 for IB 1.4? 11:24:32 <Coyran> 2.10.7 11:24:39 <Coyran> yes 11:26:04 <Mic> OK, that means there's no difference between your and my libpurple versions. Maybe it's a quirk of a server and goes away soon? 11:28:20 <Mic> I need to go again, have a nice day. 11:28:56 <Coyran> you too) 11:29:09 <Mic> If you've got other questions just ask and wait if nobody's active. It might take some time but sooner or later someone will answer. 11:29:37 <Coyran> thank you 11:29:43 <Coyran> I found error log 11:29:50 <Coyran> this error: ÐеÑка вÑемени: 18.09.2013 15:24:10 ÐÑибка: Handshake failed (-8180) ÐÑÑоÑник: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/raw-file/d7dad56f3a8b/purple/libpurple/ssl-nss.c СÑÑока: 332 ÐÑÑ Ð¾Ð´Ð½Ñй код: nss: ssl_nss_handshake_cb 11:30:11 <Coyran> sorry it's partly in russian, but I can't change language 11:31:06 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:34:20 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 12:00:37 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:03:17 <clokep_> Coyran: It's purposefully in Russian. ;) Looks like there's an invalid certificate on whatever server you're hitting. 12:03:47 <clokep_> I think the only way around that is to hope the server changes at some point or to disable cert checking (or maybe disable SSL). 12:03:52 <clokep_> Not sure exactly what options ICQ has. 12:07:19 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 12:28:52 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:29:50 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Quit: BWMerlin) 12:47:18 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout) 12:54:17 <Coyran> server slogin.icq.com, port 5190 12:54:39 <Coyran> but I did nothing with settings and it worked before... 12:55:03 <Coyran> encoding CP1251 12:56:19 <Coyran> I tried to turn off encrypting too, but it didn't help 13:05:09 --> sshagarwal has joined #instantbird 13:07:37 <-- sshagarwal has left #instantbird () 13:14:53 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:17:17 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 13:17:34 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 13:18:51 <Mic|web> :o 13:19:09 <Mic|web> We should be able to use arrow functions since the update to Moz 22. 13:20:31 <Mic|web> It's still experimental tbh. 13:25:04 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:28:08 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 13:56:47 --> dionisos has joined #instantbird 14:34:13 <clokep_> Coyran: Yes, but that doesn't mean the server didn't change or that you're not connecting to a different server now. :) 14:36:52 <clokep_> Mic: I have to look again...but last time I looked I didn't really like the arrow functions IIRC. 14:42:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:47:17 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 2895 on bug 2136. 14:47:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2136 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Yahoo! Mobile status not taken into account 14:48:18 <Coyran> Yes, it doesn't. =) What are your ICQ server settings (with which you can connect)? Are they the same as mine? 14:49:00 <clokep_> Mine were the default, I don't know if I can connect right now. 14:49:53 * clokep_ just got an IRCCloud invite? :-S 14:51:02 <Coyran> ok. I need to go, bye 14:56:03 <-- Coyran has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:07:09 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 15:07:09 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 15:09:34 * clokep is now known as clokep_work 15:09:55 <clokep_work> instant-buildbot: Status 15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: offline 15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: offline 15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: offline 15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: offline 15:09:56 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: building(compiling) [ETA 30m59s] 15:09:57 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 104h56m46s ago: failed compile 15:10:50 <-- clokep_ has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:07:32 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:19:07 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:19:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:21:19 <aleth> instant-buildbot: status 16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: offline 16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: offline 16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: idle, last build 12h44m17s ago: build successful 16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: idle, last build 124h43m59s ago: build successful 16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: building(distributing...) [ETA 13m01s] 16:21:19 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 106h08m10s ago: failed compile 16:23:36 <aleth> That already sounds better than "failed compile" ;) 16:52:12 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:58:12 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2178 filed by jahkae@gmail.com. 16:58:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2178 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Copy and paste messages sends strange information 16:59:22 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:59:22 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:59:53 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2178 to DUPLICATE of bug 2141. 16:59:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2141 nor, --, 1.5, aleth, RESO FIXED, Don't include ib-sender span in magic copy 17:01:19 <flo-retina> hmm, so the windows VM is failing consistently on the distribute step with a timeout, without any output? 17:01:33 * flo-retina wonders if Even put the ssh key on the new VM. 17:10:32 <clokep_work> Hello flo-retina. :) 17:12:25 <flo-retina> hello :) 17:17:39 <clokep_work> Yes, still no nightly. :( 17:17:51 <clokep_work> My Moz 24 build got to chat/ before dying, so that's a good sign. 17:18:04 <flo-retina> do you need help with the way it died? 17:18:16 <flo-retina> or just more time to look at it? 17:18:33 * flo-retina is disappointed he didn't get any time to review the ranking patch :(. 17:19:29 <clokep_work> I didn't have time to look at it more unfortunately. :-/ 17:19:52 * aleth hopes to take a look at that patch later 17:20:45 <aleth> In the unlikely case that nhnt11 is bored there are still a couple of smaller followup bugs around ;) 17:22:03 <aleth> clokep_work: Is there anything exciting in moz24? 17:23:44 <clokep_work> aleth: no idea. :) 17:24:55 * aleth looks 17:26:50 <aleth> string.repeat(), a bunch of constructors for DOM interfaces that were missing, and something called FocusEvent interface that I'm not sure what is good for 17:27:21 <clokep_work> string.repeat just repeats a string a bunch of times? 17:27:27 <aleth> Yup. 17:27:30 <clokep_work> (And concats?) 17:27:57 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String/repeat 17:28:16 <aleth> Can't offhand think of a use case we have for it though... 17:29:59 <clokep_work> Right. 17:30:05 <clokep_work> Kind of strange, yes. 17:30:46 <Mook_as> so it's python's ("=" * 10)? (mainly useful for headings in plain text...) 17:33:53 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:34:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:34:18 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 17:34:47 <Mic> Hello 17:35:16 <Mook_as> Hihi 17:35:31 <clokep_work> Hey, hey. 17:49:25 <Mic> Arrow functions are just a bit shorter. 17:50:21 <Mic> Not much, though: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/347123 17:51:39 <instant-buildbot> build #1088 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1088 17:51:41 <Mic> The first two examples use the difference in "this" that exists between normal functions and arrow functions. 17:51:57 <aleth> Mic: I suppose that's the main advantage, that you don't need bind() 17:52:06 <Mic> Yes, I think so too. 17:52:57 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:54:02 <clokep_work> Mic: I dislike how there's no keyword anymore. 17:54:36 <Mic> There is no keyword. There is only =>. 17:55:33 <clokep_work> Isn't that what I just said? ;) 17:56:25 <Mic> http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul 17:56:32 <Mic> That was a reference to this ;) 17:56:58 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:58:16 <clokep_work> Ah. :) 17:59:33 <aleth> You can recurse it too, like x => x => x => x :P 18:00:04 <Mic> I think that's only chaining the functions. 18:00:28 <aleth> Sure, it returns a function that returns a function etc 18:01:43 <aleth> A new way to obfuscate code :D 18:01:48 <Mic> Absolutely. 18:03:17 <Mic> Here's a recursion: let f = x => x > 1 ? x * f(x-1) : 1; 18:03:34 <Mic> Totally unreadable, isn't it? :D 18:03:38 <aleth> Oh yeah, that's more like it! 18:07:38 <Mic> You can use default values for the parameters ... even more obfuscation ;) 18:08:14 <aleth> It's a shame you can't also use <= for something... ;) 18:09:13 <Mic> Ha, why not? 18:09:20 <Mic> let f = x => x <= 1 ? 1: x * f(x-1); 18:09:44 <aleth> :D 18:10:51 <Mic> Maybe #chatdev would be more appropriate for this ;) 18:35:41 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:35:53 <nhnt11> Good evening 18:36:00 <nhnt11> (er, night?) 18:38:37 <clokep_work> Good morning. ;) 18:39:05 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 18:39:18 * Mook_as is surprised it's still morning where clokep_work is 18:39:24 <aleth> It's probably good morning for rosonline ;) 18:39:48 <rosonline> No... It's afternoon here 18:39:59 <rosonline> 16h 18:40:06 <rosonline> 4:00 PM 18:41:19 <aleth> My bad. 18:45:36 <aleth> nhnt11: Re txt logs, here's one http://pastebin.instantbird.com/347220. 18:46:14 <nhnt11> aleth: Ah. 18:46:19 <nhnt11> That's going to be hard to parse... 18:46:24 <clokep_work> Mook_as: It's not, I'm 3 hours in front of you, it's afternoon. 18:46:25 <aleth> Don't even try. 18:46:29 <nhnt11> Right 18:46:41 <clokep_work> nhnt11: aleth Does wnayes have code that parses those? 18:47:04 <Mook_as> yes. hence my surprise... and my failed /ctcp time :p 18:47:12 <aleth> clokep_work: It's possible but I don't think so. I can't remember though 18:47:40 <aleth> I don't think he wrote an importer for Instantbird 18:48:03 * nhnt11 will be back to work tomorrow evening 18:53:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:22:08 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:24:15 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 19:25:56 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:26:43 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:26:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:37:58 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 19:38:16 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:50:33 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't think he's got an importer from Ib, but IIRC he's got one for Pidgin. 19:50:49 <flo-retina> third email about 'additional chat protocols for Tb' being broken :-/. 19:50:56 <flo-retina> s/broken/not updated/ 20:38:52 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:43:14 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:44:14 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Quit: buildmaster reconfigured: bot disconnecting) 20:44:24 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 20:44:24 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 20:46:20 <-- dionisos has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:53:08 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:53:57 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:02:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:02:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:04:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:08:45 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 21:23:56 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 21:27:47 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:30:20 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 21:30:20 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 21:34:45 <instant-buildbot> build #1090 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1090 21:36:37 <instant-buildbot> build #1091 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1091 21:37:58 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Quit: buildmaster reconfigured: bot disconnecting) 21:38:07 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 21:38:07 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 21:39:49 <Even> strange problem with the windows builder 21:40:24 <Even> right now, when the distribute starts, it executes mozilla/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py 21:40:27 <Even> with tons of options 21:41:03 <Even> this process spawns a lot of processes called "dump_syms_vc1600.exe" that seems to be located in mozilla/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/win32/ 21:41:37 <Even> and they hang there not doing anything (at least they don't look like doing anything : fix RAM usage & CPU in process explorer. 21:46:38 <flo-retina> i saw one of them using 30% or so CPU, and more memory than the others 21:59:41 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:00:50 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:03:07 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:03:31 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 22:07:52 <-- unghost has quit (Input/output error) 22:07:52 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:11:59 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:35:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:36:39 <-- jb has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer) 22:37:50 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:47:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:56:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:01:00 <-- qlum has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:01:43 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:32:29 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:32:29 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:45:12 <clokep> Hello. :) 23:45:36 <flo-retina> " Recently, Mozilla released Thunderbird 24, a relatively small feature release but which unfortunately advanced the major version number beyond 17. Would it possible for you to release a new version of the chat protocol add-on with an open ended version compatibility marker?" bah... 23:46:13 <clokep> No, it's not possible. :) 23:46:14 <flo-retina> clokep: would it be possible for you to run |make buildsymbols| in the objdir of a non-debug moz23 build to see if that works or hangs? 23:46:32 <flo-retina> possibly with a build made with gmake rather than pymake 23:46:34 <clokep> flo-retina: I don't have a non-debug build nor a moz23 buiuld. :( 23:46:38 <flo-retina> (as we use gmake on the build slaves) 23:46:45 <clokep> I don't think building with gmake works on my system. 23:46:48 <clokep> I'll try in a few minutes though. 23:46:48 <flo-retina> clokep: I meant you've got a Windows machine and a compiler :-P 23:46:53 <flo-retina> why wouldn't it work? 23:46:59 <flo-retina> you need to do it with -j1 of course 23:47:52 <flo-retina> any idea of which mailing list address I should cc for the answer to that email about the tb add-on? 23:47:57 <flo-retina> do we have a chat-support group or something? 23:48:50 * flo-retina is disappointed that we still can't produce windows nightly :( 23:49:03 <flo-retina> Even is really puzzled about what's going on. 23:49:55 <flo-retina> My guessed are: 1. maybe the build sysmbols script is broken on Windows since the moz23 update? 2. Maybe that script does a -j<something> automatically and no longer works with gmake? 23:50:13 <flo-retina> however both of these guesses don't explain why we had _one_ working nightly on the previous VM... 23:50:14 <flo-retina> :( 23:52:24 <clokep> flo-retina: dev-chat would probably work? 23:52:48 <clokep> flo-retina: I think the paths get funky in gmake. 23:53:33 <flo-retina> clokep: they certainly do in pymake 23:53:43 <flo-retina> that's likely even one of the reasons why we don't use it 23:53:48 <clokep> Funky in a "the ydon't work on Windows" way in gmake. 23:53:50 <flo-retina> (during the distribute step) 23:53:50 <clokep> At least not for me. 23:55:53 <clokep> OK, I'm updating Mozilla back to 23.... 23:55:53 <flo-retina> I don't think you usually |make distribute| locally 23:55:59 <clokep> I didn't say I did. 23:56:15 <flo-retina> and even if you do, you likely do it without the environment variables that cause it to build symbols or generate mar files 23:56:41 <flo-retina> you don't have enough disk space to just clone the source tree somewhere else so that it doesn't disturb your current moz24 work? :( 23:57:02 <clokep> I just changed the obj-dir. 23:57:10 <clokep> I have enough disk space but this was faster. 23:57:37 <flo-retina> but you will rebuild moz24 from scratch after updating the source tree again, as all the timestamps will be newer 23:57:58 <clokep> No, I'll do a tier_app build. 23:58:24 <flo-retina> fair enough :) 23:58:48 <flo-retina> I'm looking forward to having a nightly on moz24, so that I can steal the purplexpcom files from it and package that as a tb add-on :-D 23:59:24 <clokep> Hahah. 23:59:33 <clokep> What this does mean...I won't get to work on Moz 24 tonight. 23:59:40 <clokep> Not that I could either way, my system can't handle two builds at once. 23:59:58 <flo-retina> building tier_app shouldn't cause too much effort for your system ;)