#instantbird log on 08 17 2013

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00:05:13 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2105 to FIXED.
00:05:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2105 min, --, 1.5, qheaden, RESO FIXED, Tags Service Should Provide a Default Contact Group
00:05:54 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2078 to FIXED.
00:05:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2078 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Home/End in newtab filterbox don't work as expected
00:05:59 <instant-buildbot> build #438 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/438  blamelist: Quentin Headen <qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com>, Nihanth Subramanya <nhnt11@gmail.com>
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00:09:50 * flo-retina wonders what's up with that windows build machine
00:09:58 <flo-retina> my guess would be that it just needs a reboot
00:10:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d5f62ea1d914 - Nihanth Subramanya - Bug 2078 - Home/End in newtab filterbox don't work as expected - fix breakage, r=aleth
00:10:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/900531a13dc4 - Quentin Headen - Bug 2105 - Tags Service Should Provide a Default Contact Group, r=clokep,fqueze.
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00:25:27 <florian> wnayes's tooltip patch doesn't help at all with the sizing issue we currently have :-/
00:27:42 <flo-retina> wnayes: http://i4.minus.com/ibmNRnL614tqFg.png this is how it looks
00:28:23 <instant-buildbot> build #451 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/451
00:33:00 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I'm implementing aleth's suggestion here https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066#c22
00:33:04 <instantbot> Bug 2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
00:33:08 <nhnt11> And I can't decide on a good name for the variable :S
00:33:12 <nhnt11> roomInfoIsStale?
00:33:26 * nhnt11 guesses "stale" isn't something that would be appropriate to have in a variable name
00:33:54 <nhnt11> roomInfoAvailable?
00:34:03 <nhnt11> That's not what it means though
00:34:12 <florian> roomInfoReady?
00:34:22 <nhnt11> But that's not really what it means
00:34:30 <nhnt11> what the value means*
00:34:45 <florian> well, will it return the old data and update later, or just fetch the new list?
00:34:58 <nhnt11> It will fetch the new list
00:35:08 <florian> so ready may be ok
00:35:31 <nhnt11> Hmm
00:36:07 <nhnt11> ok
00:37:35 <nhnt11> florian: Also, is your opinion on not having the RoomInfo constructor in jsProtoHelper final?
00:37:56 <florian> no
00:37:58 * nhnt11 thinks it's useful if this is every implemented in xmpp etc
00:38:06 <florian> I was mostly wondering if there's something more useful this implementation can do
00:38:58 <florian> currently it seems that creating an object directly with {name: value1, name2: value2, ...} would be as easy as calling this constructor. (except maybe for the class info stuff, but that's one line...)
00:39:29 <flo-retina> btw, have you also been seeing the tooltip sizing bug?
00:39:34 <nhnt11> Yes
00:39:39 <nhnt11> (about the bug)
00:39:51 <flo-retina> is it since the moz22 update?
00:39:54 <nhnt11> Not sure.
00:40:03 <nhnt11> some of them are fine
00:40:06 <nhnt11> some of them are oddly sized
00:40:23 <flo-retina> nhnt11: the whole tooltip keeps the size of the largest tooltip ever displayed in the window
00:40:29 <nhnt11> flo-retina has a correctly sized tooltip, florian is oddly sized
00:40:36 <nhnt11> Ah
00:40:53 <nhnt11> Makes much more sense now
00:41:00 <flo-retina> yeah
00:41:05 <flo-retina> it took me a while to figure it out
00:41:11 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Wait
00:41:23 <nhnt11> I see a tooltip that's bigger than yours
00:41:31 <nhnt11> but yours is correctly sized anyway
00:41:37 <nhnt11> iva_n is way bigger
00:42:15 <nhnt11> Ah but yours is no longer correctly sized
00:42:15 <nhnt11> :S
00:42:21 <flo-retina> flo-retina's tooltip is no longer correctly sized after I look at i_van's
00:42:37 <nhnt11> yeah
00:42:52 <flo-retina> have we changed anything in the tooltip code recently?
00:43:03 <nhnt11> not as far as I know
00:45:24 <nhnt11> flo-retina: From hg log it looks like my tabbrowser patch was the last time it was touched
00:45:34 <flo-retina> yeah
00:45:41 <flo-retina> but that's unlikely to be the cause
00:46:00 <nhnt11> yeah I hadn't noticed it till recently
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00:55:03 * flo-retina wonders if nhnt11 would r+ http://pastebin.instantbird.com/294712 to get rid of the issue ;)
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00:55:39 <flo-retina> I should file a bug anyway
00:56:01 <nhnt11> sure
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00:58:42 * nhnt11 wonders if there isn't some way to pack
01:00:16 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 2113 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
01:00:17 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 2725 on bug 2113.
01:00:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2113 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes
01:01:02 <florian> Isn't there only the height that's wrong?
01:01:25 <nhnt11> Seems so yeah.
01:01:34 <florian> I'm trying the patch right now, and I wonder if it has the unintended consequence of forcing next tooltips to have a small (minimal) width
01:05:42 <nhnt11> Hmm, tooltip widths seem to be getting adjusted to fit, just the heights that are messed up
01:05:55 <nhnt11> so that "unintended consequence" might not be an issue, seeing as that's the current behavior
01:06:49 <flo-retina> nhnt11: it is an issue if all the rows at the bottom are short, because the display name gets cropped
01:07:01 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I think we would need to set a minimum width
01:07:07 <nhnt11> ah
01:07:22 <flo-retina> I think using the width that the blist window has by default on a new profile could make sense
01:10:19 <nhnt11> Hmm
01:12:36 <flo-retina> the other idea I have is to resize to a 0 height and the current width of the tooltip
01:13:26 <wnayes> flo-retina: It looks like a lot of the styling issues have been fixed though :) (aside from the alignment of the protocol icon with the status text)
01:13:45 <flo-retina> wnayes: yeah, it's looking quite promising :)
01:13:55 <flo-retina> I'm writing a review comment right now ;)
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01:15:25 <wnayes> I remember not addressing that issue because I wasn't sure how to fix it on Mac without breaking it elsewhere, aside from some OS conditional statement.
01:15:50 <flo-retina> wnayes: does http://i5.minus.com/izCiAjI1d4FY6.png match what you see?
01:17:32 <wnayes> Yes, as far as the rows are concerned.
01:19:42 <wnayes> I don't have the protocol icon alignment issue on windows though.
01:21:05 <flo-retina> did you mean status icon?
01:21:09 <flo-retina> the protocol icon seems fine to me
01:21:21 <flo-retina> it's pixelated, but that's because I'm on a retina screen (ie. it's not your fault :))
01:21:23 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2627 on bug 1221.
01:21:24 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted feedback for attachment 2627 on bug 1221.
01:21:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221 enh, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, Redesign buddy tooltips
01:21:43 <flo-retina> wnayes: the part I dislike on that screenshot is the margins around the buddy icon
01:22:13 <flo-retina> wnayes: I also wonder if the CSS you added isn't forcing all icons to look like squares, even if the image file wasn't square.
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01:26:08 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I think starting with a 200px width (ie same as http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/blist.xul#23) looks nicer
01:26:31 <nhnt11> Sure.
01:27:21 * flo-retina wonders if he should prepare to checkin that change, or go to bed
01:27:44 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Isn't it pretty late?
01:27:47 <flo-retina> wnayes: are all my review comments understandable/actionable?
01:27:56 <flo-retina> nhnt11: 3:30am
01:28:11 <flo-retina> nhnt11: we still have 30+ minutes before nightlies start building
01:28:16 <nhnt11> LD
01:28:18 <nhnt11> :D *
01:28:40 <flo-retina> nhnt11: but if the review isn't coming in the next 5 minutes, I'll likely go to bed ;)
01:28:55 <nhnt11> I thought you wanted to post a new patch?
01:29:19 <flo-retina> if it's just to replace the first 0 with 200, I can do it on checkin
01:29:23 <flo-retina> (I already have it locally)
01:29:28 <nhnt11> ok
01:29:46 <flo-retina> but I can attach if you really want to see it
01:29:49 <nhnt11> No it's fine
01:30:04 <wnayes> flo-retina: I think so, thanks :). Here's the screenshot from windows that I posted from this patch: http://i.imgur.com/qwKW3G3.png
01:30:13 <nhnt11> I didn't know you broke formality for small patches ;)
01:30:27 <wnayes> The margin issues are a lot less noticeable, if even present, on windows. :s
01:30:28 <flo-retina> it looks better with a grey background
01:30:32 <flo-retina> the yellow is ugly
01:30:50 <flo-retina> wnayes: well, there's no buddy icon on that screenshot ;)
01:31:50 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com granted review for attachment 2725 on bug 2113.
01:31:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2113 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes
01:32:40 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from nhnt11@gmail.com for attachment 2726 on bug 2113.
01:33:01 <flo-retina> uh, why didn't it mid-air :-S
01:33:19 * nhnt11 doesn't know
01:33:32 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com granted review for attachment 2726 on bug 2113.
01:34:16 <flo-retina> thanks
01:35:44 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 2113 to FIXED.
01:35:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2113 nor, --, 1.5, florian, RESO FIXED, Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes
01:37:02 <instant-buildbot> build #439 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/439  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
01:38:37 * flo-retina will be happy to no longer see these broken tooltips in the next nightly
01:38:48 <flo-retina> and hopefully to soon have much nicer tooltips :)
01:39:42 <nhnt11> :)
01:39:42 <wnayes> flo-retina: The border margin issue is the same. Unfortunately it looks like the difference between the top / left content margins are basically opposite for windows (icon is closer to the top rather than left) :(
01:40:14 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/67c3b9175366 - Florian Qu├Ęze - Bug 2113 - Buddy tooltips have incorrect sizes, r=nhnt11.
01:40:31 <flo-retina> wnayes: on the left side it looks like it would be OK if you add the width of the border to the margin.
01:40:43 <flo-retina> (that's just a random guess though)
01:41:33 <flo-retina> wnayes: I think the margin top is currently not defined, and depends on the height of the display name which depends on the font used.
01:41:39 <flo-retina> but again; just a guess
01:41:58 <flo-retina> Good evening/night/morning :)
01:42:16 <nhnt11> Good night
01:44:10 <wnayes> flo-retina: Here's a windows one with an icon, http://i.imgur.com/JyB6Xtj.png. Good night :)
01:53:55 <instant-buildbot> build #445 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/445
01:55:38 <instant-buildbot> build #452 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/452
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03:05:56 <instant-buildbot> build #943 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/943
03:06:34 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2727 on bug 2066.
03:06:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
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03:13:11 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com cancelled review?(aleth@instantbird.o rg) for attachment 2681 on bug 2066.
03:13:12 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2728 on bug 2066.
03:13:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
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05:29:06 <spanktastic2120> could anyone here help me with compiling instantbird on linux? im encountering a python error
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06:05:23 <instant-buildbot> build #1040 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1040
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10:03:41 <aleth> Anyone have any idea what Andrew means by "frequent contacts" in the email on the support list?
10:05:09 <flo-retina> which email is that?
10:05:45 <aleth> "suggestions for the next instantbird release"
10:08:01 <flo-retina> likely something added by one of this other clients, or a server on some protocol
10:08:18 <flo-retina> I would just suggest hiding the tag(s) so that everything is shown in "other contacts" :)
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10:27:47 <aleth> That could be it.
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12:52:07 <flo-retina> aleth: thanks for replying to these newsgroup messages :)
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15:17:23 <flo-retina> aleth: actually, I filed bu 2097 because of the message on the mailing list ;)
15:18:37 <flo-retina> aleth: I think the tooltips look cluterred because there's a lot of junk in the lines in the bottom part
15:18:42 <flo-retina> but we need to clean it up in each prpl
15:22:32 <aleth> flo-retina: By "cluttered" I meant more that the layout wasn't clear as it was too dense. Improved whitespace probably fixes it (and maybe those screenshots are not up to date anyway). And/or maybe a line under the conv-top part.
15:23:01 <flo-retina> which screenshots did you look at?
15:23:09 <aleth> Those attached to the bug.
15:23:28 <flo-retina> they are old
15:23:59 <flo-retina> http://i.imgur.com/JyB6Xtj.png is a more recent one
15:25:00 <aleth> That's better, but the top part could still do with some separation (like the bottom part)
15:25:26 <aleth> And I doubt a line would look good as there is already a line next to the user icon
15:26:11 <flo-retina> I think we should remove most of it
15:26:28 <flo-retina> the Tags line should use a tag icon like in the awesometab rather than the "tags" word
15:26:38 <flo-retina> the status is duplucated
15:26:39 <aleth> Right, but that's a separate issue
15:26:49 <flo-retina> we need to figure out a way to not duplicate it in most cases
15:26:59 <flo-retina> the account name is pointless if there's only one account for the protocol
15:27:07 <flo-retina> the username is pointless if it's the same as the display name
15:27:36 <flo-retina> aleth: yeah, but my point is that it would look different if we got rid of half the lines of text
15:27:39 <aleth> Yes
15:28:30 <aleth> I doubt it'll fix the layout issue on its own though maybe it is worth waiting until that is done.
15:28:53 <flo-retina> aleth: the layout isn't perfect
15:29:03 <flo-retina> I requested slightly larger margins around the buddy icons
15:29:08 <flo-retina> *icon
15:29:20 <flo-retina> but I think it's already a large improvement compared to what we currently have
15:29:28 <aleth> Definitely
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15:59:46 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2727 on bug 2066.
15:59:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
16:04:54 <nhnt11> aleth: Thanks for the review
16:06:29 <nhnt11> aleth: Yeah I intend to do the iSUPPORT stuff  in a follow up, I forgot to mention
16:07:05 <aleth> Yeah, leave it for now, you'll need to discuss it with clokep anyway.
16:07:17 <aleth> We don't need to worry about it in this bug.
16:07:29 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I had some ideas for bugs 1315 and 837 while you were on vacation, I think. Did you see any of those by any chance?
16:07:52 <nhnt11> Anyway I'll fly it past you later (possibly after gsoc?) again
16:07:54 <flo-retina> I didn't read IRC logs for the period when I was in vacations
16:08:23 * flo-retina is trying to reorder the computer hardware in the office he has at his parents'
16:08:39 <flo-retina> the 20+ years old hardware has nothing to do here any more :-|
16:09:36 <aleth> s/office/museum ;)
16:09:50 <flo-retina> nah
16:09:57 <flo-retina> I've got museum computers
16:10:04 <flo-retina> but the old PCs aren't part of it
16:10:39 <flo-retina> maybe I exaggerated a bit when saying 20+
16:10:53 <flo-retina> but there's a Pentium 133Mhz from 1996
16:11:10 <flo-retina> and Apple stuff back from the time it was 68k based
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16:12:03 <aleth> I guess it's unlikely you'll want to use Windows 95 for nostalgic reasons... ;)
16:12:53 <flo-retina> windows 98 :)
16:13:09 <flo-retina> it was the first PC I assembled myself, before high school :)
16:13:20 <aleth> in 96? impressive ;)
16:13:33 <flo-retina> rather in 2000 or 2001
16:13:38 <flo-retina> that was second hand parts
16:14:01 <flo-retina> I remember buying the motherboard+CPU for 3euros, the hdd for 1, etc...
16:14:18 <aleth> Great fun when it boots for the first time :)
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16:14:33 <flo-retina> yeah :)
16:15:12 <aleth> I remember having to fiddle with the order in which IDE drives were cabled and stuff like that...
16:15:47 * nhnt11 feels young
16:15:48 <flo-retina> the first boot was on a cardboard box :)
16:16:29 <nhnt11> I remember my dad bringing home a new computer and being super excited about it, I watched him put it together... But that's about it :P
16:16:38 <flo-retina> aleth: I did too. There were actually 2 hdds in there. Both partly broken. One only worked as a slave, and the other didn't work in the first few sectors, so it was impossible to boot from it
16:16:42 <nhnt11> 1998... I was 4-ish years old :P
16:16:46 <flo-retina> nhnt11: you are young ;)
16:18:18 * aleth goes back to reviewing nhnt11's patch
16:24:04 <flo-retina> oh, 64MB memory modules under the screen :-D
16:33:47 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2728 on bug 2066.
16:33:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
16:33:58 <aleth> Reviews always take three times as long as you think :-/
16:35:48 <flo-retina> yeah, at least 3 times
16:36:09 <flo-retina> 6 times is often not an exaggeration ;)
16:36:26 <nhnt11> I suppose my mistakes don't help :-/
16:36:26 <flo-retina> like that context menu patch ;)
16:36:34 <aleth> Right, basically it's impossible to predict ;)
16:36:47 <flo-retina> nhnt11: yeah, you are humans, we should hire robots instead :-P
16:37:03 <nhnt11> Write one!
16:37:04 <nhnt11> :P
16:38:02 <aleth> nhnt11: I don't think mistakes is the right word really, at least that's not what takes the time...
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17:27:24 <nhnt11> Odd, tooltips aren't getting updated with detailed info
17:27:30 <nhnt11> Ah, now they are
17:27:31 <nhnt11> weird
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17:44:15 <aleth> nhnt11: Btw it doesn't look like there's much more to do in bug 2066 :)
17:44:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should suggest chat rooms
17:44:32 <nhnt11> yay
17:44:43 * nhnt11 spent a lot of time yesterday hunting a stupid bug
17:44:59 <nhnt11> I was doing acc.roomInfoReady instead of acc.prplAccount.roomInfoReady
17:45:22 <aleth> That kind of thing can be hard to spot...
17:45:57 <nhnt11> I couldn't figure out why it was always false ;)
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17:47:26 <aleth> At least you noticed ;) This was another recent example of that http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8106088485c8
17:47:58 <nhnt11> Aha. Kinda opposite case there.
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20:12:37 * flo-retina has a log file that reliably reproduced bug 790, and wonders how difficult it may be to debug
20:12:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Some messages lost during magic copy
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20:56:42 <flo-retina> So the problem isn't magic copy failing, it's the DOM that's crazy: http://i4.minus.com/iKGRRdXL4XUjl.png
20:57:26 <flo-retina> the span with the ib-msg-txt class is empty, and there's another <p> tag containing a few span with nothing, and then a span with the real message content
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21:19:44 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org cleared the Resolution 'INCOMPLETE' from bug 790.
21:19:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790 nor, --, ---, nobody, REOP, Some messages lost during magic copy
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21:56:13 * flo-retina wonders if poking dew everyday would produce results :-D
21:57:03 <nhnt11> flo-retina: That's an interesting bug
21:57:39 <flo-retina> nhnt11: :)
22:15:19 <flo-retina> hmm, a <div> can't be in a <p>?
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22:19:59 <nhnt11> Interesting
22:20:10 <nhnt11> So <p> can contain only inline elements
22:20:31 <flo-retina> I was trying a different hack: replacing the span with a div, and forcing the div to be inline with display: inline
22:20:44 * nhnt11 didn't know the proper differences between span and div until now.
22:20:50 <nhnt11> difference*
22:20:50 <flo-retina> but then my div ends up out of the <p> for message themes like simple that display both the username and the message content on the same line.
22:23:57 <flo-retina> nhnt11: ah, then you learned something useful today :)
22:24:43 <nhnt11> I seem to have been using them correctly though (whenever I /have/ used them)
22:27:49 <flo-retina> if neither span nor div works, I'm afraid I'm out of ideas :(
22:28:49 <nhnt11> flo-retina: The problem with simple is that the username will be included in the msg-txt div?
22:29:01 <nhnt11> just to make sure I'm following correctly
22:29:15 <flo-retina> no
22:29:33 <nhnt11> Ah
22:29:44 <nhnt11> Is it that divs won't allow them to be on the same line
22:29:51 <flo-retina> simple does <p>%username%: %message%</p>
22:31:31 <flo-retina> and if I replace the span by a div, that ends up as <p>%username: </p><div>...</div>
22:33:33 * nhnt11 just read something similar on stackoverflow
22:33:45 <flo-retina> with a solution?
22:34:14 <nhnt11> No, just "Don't put <div> in <p>"
22:36:05 <nhnt11> But now I'm wondering, if the problem is that <p>%username%: <span><p>%message%</p></span></p> doesn't work, wouldn't it fail even if the span is omitted completely?
22:36:11 <nhnt11> (<p> in a <p>)
22:37:56 <nhnt11> I'm not sure if I understand the situation completely though - if I haven't at this point, I guess I should maybe not bother too much right now ;)
22:39:08 <flo-retina> I think p in p is OK
22:39:11 <flo-retina> not sure though
22:39:18 <flo-retina> and all of this is a bit quirky anyway :S
22:42:03 <nhnt11> flo-retina: According to this, p in p is not ok: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#edef-P
22:42:33 <flo-retina> so whatever we do, we are screwed? :-(
22:42:50 <nhnt11> Pretty much yeah :P
22:43:26 <nhnt11> The only thing I can think of is to not use <p> in the message style
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22:44:57 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I would be surprised if Simple (which we can tweak) was the only theme using <p>
22:45:56 <nhnt11> I didn't say it's a feasible solution :P Just that it would work.
23:05:44 <nhnt11> flo-retina: So I think 200px may be a bit too small for the minimum width of tooltips
23:06:40 <nhnt11> Disregard that, I'm not sure where I'm going with it yet.
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23:20:42 <flo-retina> nhnt11: btw, are you waiting for a review from me, or addressing aleth's feedback
23:20:46 <flo-retina> or working on ranking :)
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23:21:00 <nhnt11> I'm about to start addressing aleth's feedback
23:21:20 <nhnt11> I had a couple other things to take care of, was doing that.
23:21:22 <flo-retina> ok, cool
23:21:34 <flo-retina> I just wanted to ensure I wasn't blocking you
23:21:34 <nhnt11> I slept all day and it's a sunday though, so I have plenty of time to work :)
23:21:48 <nhnt11> I'll let you know if I'm blocked, please don't worry about it.
23:21:51 <flo-retina> I slept late too ;)
23:22:06 <flo-retina> ok, thanks :)
23:26:50 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Btw, for the last couple of days when I update, it tries to do a full update first, fails for some reason, then does a partial update if I try again.
23:27:11 <flo-retina> strange :S
23:27:41 <nhnt11> The first time I wasn't sure what I saw so I didn't think twice about it but it happened again today
23:27:45 <nhnt11> er.. yesterday.
23:33:48 <flo-retina> I must admit I'm not fully interested in debugging this if it's not fully broken ;)
23:34:15 <flo-retina> but I'll keep in mind that you saw some odd behaviors, so that we can try to investigate if something that has more serious consequences and seems related ever happens :)
23:34:21 <flo-retina> thanks for mentioning it anywya
23:34:28 <nhnt11> Yeah I just wanted to put it out there.
23:34:30 <flo-retina> it's possible that I saw something slightly similar
23:35:01 <flo-retina> but my last 2 or 3 updates have been partials, and very fast
23:35:05 <flo-retina> less than 300kB
23:35:14 <nhnt11> Yeah it was 250 something last time
23:35:24 <nhnt11> But it definitely tried to download something >30MB first
23:35:50 * flo-retina is trying to scratch an itch
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23:36:04 <flo-retina> isn't that a perfect vacation activity? ;)
23:36:18 <flo-retina> nhnt12: that doesn't seem to crash in debug builds
23:36:24 <flo-retina> I wish we could debug that :(
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23:56:31 <flo-retina> 1 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
23:56:51 <flo-retina> what's the likelihood that it will just work at the first try? :)
23:57:27 <flo-retina> ok, 0% (syntax error -_-')
23:59:43 <nhnt11> Haha