#instantbird log on 08 02 2013

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03:05:22 <instant-buildbot> build #928 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/928
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03:37:32 <qheaden> Hello.
03:47:07 <clokep_> Helo.
03:47:13 <qheaden> clokep_: In test_yahooAccount.js, should we continue to use add_test instead of putting the test into the run_test method? I think the file should be open to any future tests on YahooAccount.
03:49:35 <clokep_> qheaden: I don't have a strong opinion on it. ;)
03:49:54 <Mook> 250 Hello there
03:50:16 <clokep_> Mook: ?
03:50:31 * clokep_ finds it weird to actually see Mook instead of Mook_as. :P
03:50:48 <Mook> clokep_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mail_Transfer_Protocol#SMTP_transport_example
03:50:55 <qheaden> clokep_: Okay, I'll just keep the separate text function.
03:51:07 <Mook> also... I guess that means I should concentrate on my work more and IRC less.
03:51:52 <qheaden> 250 Hello Mook. :)
03:52:00 <clokep_> Mook: That's nerdy, even for you. ;)
03:54:43 <Mook> ... do I win a prize? :p
03:55:22 <clokep_> No. :)
03:59:39 <clokep_> qheaden: Btw I realized one of those test files is named poorly. :(
03:59:57 <qheaden> clokep_: test_yahoopacket I'm guessing?
04:00:03 <clokep_> Yes.
04:00:27 <qheaden> I just noticed the small "p" also, and its annoying me now. :P
04:00:50 <qheaden> I hate to create a whole new bug for it, but I wonder if it is appropriate to fix it with the test patch for bug 2083.
04:00:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Account created with username@yahoo.* instead of username is handled badly
04:01:43 <clokep_> It isn't really, it's kind of silly to even fix. :(
04:01:45 <clokep_> But we probably should.
04:09:21 <qheaden> clokep_: Is this better: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/270365
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04:10:34 <clokep_> qheaden: Yes.
04:10:36 <clokep_> Does it apss? :P
04:10:43 <qheaden> clokep_: Yeah. :)
04:11:01 <clokep_> I think it'll be an r+ then.
04:11:18 <qheaden> clokep_: BTW, nhnt11 made a comment, and found that I forgot to remove the comment above the old cleanUsername getter in the main patch.
04:11:26 <qheaden> So I'll fix that and resubmit it for an r+.
04:12:11 <clokep_> qheaden: Yes.
04:16:38 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2674 on bug 2083.
04:16:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Account created with username@yahoo.* instead of username is handled badly
04:17:18 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2675 on bug 2083.
04:18:29 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 2675 on bug 2083.
04:18:30 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2676 on bug 2083.
04:18:49 * qheaden wonders why he seems to make mistakes when uploading patches, even after checking over everything.
04:29:21 <Mook> probably the same reason I tend to find answers to things after I ask on IRC.
04:29:34 <qheaden> :P
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05:51:35 <instant-buildbot> build #1024 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1024
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08:33:42 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com denied review for attachment 2635 on bug 2065.
08:33:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2065 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, Double and middle-clicks on the tab bar should open new conversation tab
08:34:02 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 2657 on bug 2068.
08:34:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2068 min, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Mobile icon missing on items of new conversation tab
08:38:08 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com denied review for attachment 2664 on bug 2081.
08:38:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081 min, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Pressing the up key in the top row of the newtab should refocus the filterbox
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08:50:42 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com denied review for attachment 2658 on bug 2076.
08:50:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2076 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Offline contacts no longer appear with reduced opacity
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09:13:11 <Mic> nhnt11: bug 2078 isn't fixed for me :(
09:13:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2078 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Home/End in newtab filterbox don't work as expected
09:13:21 <nhnt11> Mic: :(
09:13:26 <nhnt11> I'll take a look in a bit
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09:13:34 * nhnt11 is registering for his courses this semester.
09:13:34 <Mic> The Home and End key always go to the filterbox now, no matter where I moved the focus first.
09:13:41 <Mic> Oh, cool :)
09:13:59 <Mic> Are there some that you're really looking forward to?
09:15:57 <nhnt11> Well I have Electromagnetic Theory which should be interesting. Also Digital Design and Differential equations :)
09:21:14 <flo-retina> nhnt11: about bug 2076, if you really have a scrolling speed issue when setting the opacity on a child of the item, do you think it would be interesting to try setting the opacity on the item itself when it's not selected, and on the first child if the item is selected/highlighted?
09:21:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2076 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Offline contacts no longer appear with reduced opacity
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09:24:48 <flo-retina> or maybe just not set the opacity at all for selected items, if there's another way to see the contact is offline
09:25:02 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 2078.
09:25:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2078 nor, --, 1.5, nhnt11, REOP, Home/End in newtab filterbox don't work as expected
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09:29:55 <Mic> Ah, we're "Mozilla Instantbird" already? Didn't know that ;)
09:29:57 <Mic> http://buff.ly/13rFrzp
09:40:49 <flo-retina> Mic: if you google for "Mozilla Instantbird", I would expect some results from 2007 :-D
09:46:44 <Mic> The link came through my Twitter feed...
09:54:35 <aleth> nhnt11: "We request chat lists from accounts when adding new observers." Shouldn't you delete the existing entries for an account when rerequesting info? Otherwise there will be entries that never get removed even though the channels have gone, and also it is much much slower to do the element-by-element duplicate search you are using
09:55:54 <aleth> Of course it would be nice if your account-side API could tell you "I'm just returning cached data anyway, no need to delete or add anything"
10:02:37 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2085 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
10:02:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2085 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, No handler for Yahoo! packet 83.
10:05:09 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2086 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
10:05:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2086 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Could not deccode UTF-8 message into UTF-16.
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10:24:34 <Mic> bye
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10:36:36 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2087 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
10:36:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2087 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Accepting an invitation to chat can end in a loop
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10:46:21 <flo-retina> so, the profiler works on my debug build (where the results are useless) and the add-on can't be enabled on my nightly. The error message is: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/270765 (that's garbage to me)
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11:15:35 <atuljangra> This ui code is getting way larger than what I expected. :-/
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11:23:00 <nhnt11> bbl
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11:25:06 <clokep_> qheaden_away: You don't need to upload a new attachment to chang eit to be a patch.
11:27:26 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2088 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:27:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, New contact does not get added to the correct tag
11:29:56 * aleth hopes more people are testing the new Yahoo prpl
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11:35:55 <aleth> flo-retina: The only thing I recognize there is that it's the add-on sdk again ;)
11:42:24 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2089 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:42:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2089 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Debug logs are binary only
11:46:08 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2090 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:46:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2090 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, /invite command is broken
11:50:33 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2091 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:50:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2091 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, /join chatroom does not do anything.
11:51:54 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2092 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:51:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2092 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Join chat" with a yahoo account doesn't allow one to pick the chatroom name
11:53:40 <flo-retina> aleth: yeah, a lot of trouble coming from the same source ;)
11:53:44 <flo-retina> anyway, I'm past that error
11:53:45 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2093 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:53:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2093 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Adding chat buddy twice" error when inviting someone to a chatroom
11:53:52 <flo-retina> now I've some different brokenness
11:54:01 <flo-retina> I suspect some .xpt files aren't packaged for Instantbird nightlies
11:54:24 <flo-retina> I'll check by making a local build with the same mozconfig as nightlies, but without packaging it
11:54:37 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2094 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:54:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2094 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Required key 52 wasn't found.
11:58:11 <instantbot> New Core - Yahoo! Messenger bug 2095 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
11:58:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2095 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, MUC participants don't leave the MUC when they go offline
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12:03:42 <flo-retina> aleth seems in a bug filing mood ;)
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12:04:37 * aleth spent his lunchbreak trying out prpl-yahoo beyond just sending messages ;)
12:06:24 <aleth> I hope qheaden doesn't get a shock when he wakes up ;)
12:10:37 <flo-retina> the DSL connection is a disaster here :(
12:11:01 <flo-retina> ping of 4s :(
12:16:42 <atuljangra> bbl
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12:18:27 <aleth> ouch. Bizarre routing or just terrible latency?
12:24:15 <flo-retina> ping of 1ms to the wifi router, and 4s to the next router (ie the DSLAM)
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13:31:18 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2092 to INVALID.
13:31:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2092 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, "Join chat" with a yahoo account doesn't allow one to pick the chatroom name
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15:00:34 <aleth> qheaden: I just filed everything I encountered in dogfooding. Some of those bugs might turn out to be duplicates or invalid, but take it as a log of what feels confusing or wrong to a new user ;)
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17:12:31 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2561 on bug 1587.
17:12:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1587 min, --, 1.5, clokep, REOP, Re-sync build scripts with comm-central
17:19:59 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2560 on bug 1587.
17:20:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1587 min, --, 1.5, clokep, REOP, Re-sync build scripts with comm-central
17:25:25 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2590 on bug 1997.
17:25:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1997 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update to Mozilla 22
17:30:11 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2591 on bug 1997.
17:30:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1997 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update to Mozilla 22
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17:30:36 <qheaden> Hello everyone.
17:30:43 <qheaden> aleth: Stop making trouble! :P
17:31:08 <flo-retina> qheaden: good morning ;)
17:33:03 <qheaden> aleth: Thanks a lot for testing. This is the kind of feedback I was waiting for.
17:36:50 <flo-retina> :)
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17:42:27 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2662 on bug 2082.
17:42:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2082 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Error when opening a new conversation tab when a conversation exists with someone not on the buddy l
17:44:59 <flo-retina> nhnt11 has 2 bugs to resolve as FIXED ;)
17:48:50 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6553d7168d9f - Nihanth Subramanya - Bug 2082 - Error when opening a new conversation tab when a conversation exists with someone not on the buddy list, r=fqueze.
17:48:51 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d158f8da63e6 - Nihanth Subramanya - Bug 2068 - Mobile icon missing on items of new conversation tab, r=Mic
17:49:09 <aleth> qheaden: Haha, damn those pesky users ;)
17:52:26 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2677 on bug 2086.
17:52:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2086 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Could not deccode UTF-8 message into UTF-16.
17:54:38 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2677 on bug 2086.
17:54:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2086 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Could not deccode UTF-8 message into UTF-16.
17:55:43 * qheaden wonders if clokep wants someone else to review the patches while he is on his trip?
17:56:18 <aleth> clokep was reviewing stuff earlier today afaik ;)
17:56:25 <qheaden> Oh okay. :)
17:56:34 * qheaden goes to fix the error typo.
17:57:13 * aleth lost log files due to a power cut. This is not great behaviour.
17:58:18 <aleth> bug 1649
17:58:19 <aleth> Not sure there is much we can do about it though...
17:58:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1649 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Log files often get lost during shutdown
17:58:54 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2678 on bug 2086.
17:58:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2086 min, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, Could not deccode UTF-8 message into UTF-16.
18:00:16 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2678 on bug 2086.
18:04:44 <instant-buildbot> build #429 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/429
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18:07:36 <aleth> Btw, if anyone here is on Linux and on the latest nightly, I'd be pleased for screenshots/feedback of the account manager & new conversation richlistbox changes.
18:07:57 <aleth> As it's hard to predict what things will look like with different window managers/themes...
18:08:27 * flo-retina is wondering what his twitter password could be :-S
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18:30:43 <qheaden> aleth: I'm setting my patches to be reviewed by clokep, but if you feel that he won't mind you reviewing some as well, go right ahead. :)
18:32:57 <instantbot> qheaden@phaseshiftsoftware.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2679 on bug 2095.
18:33:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2095 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, MUC participants don't leave the MUC when they go offline
18:45:53 <aleth> qheaden: I'm sure he'll jump in if he disagrees with a r+ from me ;)
18:46:03 <qheaden> :)
18:46:21 <qheaden> aleth: Your bug reports were excellent!
18:51:58 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2679 on bug 2095.
18:52:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2095 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, MUC participants don't leave the MUC when they go offline
18:52:05 <aleth> qheaden: Hmm, given this ^^ I'm not so sure :-S
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19:08:14 <atuljangra> flo-retina: Should I continue working on the project?
19:08:19 <atuljangra> aleth flo-retina ^
19:09:34 * atuljangra getting tensed here. Would love an instant reply from someone.
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19:11:59 <atuljangra> nhnt11: got the mail? :)
19:12:05 <nhnt11> Yep :)
19:12:42 <atuljangra> Congrats :)
19:20:12 <nhnt11> Thanks
19:27:02 <atuljangra> I cannot work on UI in this situation. :-/
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19:41:36 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2068 to FIXED.
19:41:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2068 min, --, ---, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Mobile icon missing on items of new conversation tab
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19:42:07 <instantbot> nhnt11@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 2082 to FIXED.
19:42:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2082 nor, --, ---, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Error when opening a new conversation tab when a conversation exists with someone not on the buddy l
19:44:07 <nhnt11> FYI: Tomorrow my classes start, so my schedule will probably change a bit. I will likely be working after/between classes and won't be online late at night anymore. An alternative is to sleep after classes and code through the night until breakfast - this appeals to me but I'm not sure.
19:45:47 <nhnt11> I probably should have sent that as an email.. oh well.
19:51:17 <atuljangra> flo-retina: Please ping me when you are online.
19:51:27 <flo-retina> atuljangra: I'm replying to your email
19:51:38 <atuljangra> flo-retina: Ok.
19:58:50 <nhnt11> http://puu.sh/3S7Ab.png - I keep getting this while updating my nightly :(
19:59:17 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I got that too; didn't understand why :(
20:01:23 * atuljangra is eagerly waiting for the email :S
20:14:35 <aleth> qheaden: I'll leave further iterations of bug 2095 for clokep, as I don't know the surrounding yahoo code well enough ;) As long as I explained the problem clearly.
20:14:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2095 nor, --, ---, qheaden, ASSI, MUC participants don't leave the MUC when they go offline
20:14:44 <atuljangra> flo-retina: So nothing can be done about the gsoc? I believe I'm quite in accordance with my timeline though(despite of my accident for which I mention you asap)
20:15:16 <qheaden> aleth: I'm working on a new patch that reports a logoff from the conference, but keeps the actual conference window open.
20:15:24 <qheaden> I'll ask clokep about the desired behavior here.
20:20:54 <flo-retina> atuljangra: your timeline says:
20:20:54 <flo-retina> 1. "May 27: (Results announced) - June 17(Coding starts)" "planning before starting to code". This was the time to discuss all the stuff that needed to be discussed.
20:20:54 <flo-retina> 2. "June 17 - July 15 (4 weeks)" "coding up the API for filelink, and handle all the cases for file transfer. First try the file transfer provided by the IM protocol, check if that worked or not, if yes, then well and good, otherwise Filelink"
20:20:54 <flo-retina> 3. "July 16- July 31(2 weeks)" "During this period, I'm planning write tests for the above implemented API".
20:20:54 <flo-retina> None of this is finished.
20:21:21 <atuljangra> flo-retina: I guess this is mail stuff. Discussing the same in mail.
20:21:34 <atuljangra> And part 1 and 2 are finished.
20:22:28 <flo-retina> We can discuss in private emails if you prefer, yes.
20:22:54 <aleth> "finished" would mean that something was essentially ready to land, or already landed.
20:23:02 <atuljangra> I've no pbm with the irc.
20:23:38 <atuljangra> aleth: all of it is working, and we decided to land it with ui, but ui is not completed. So we cannot land.
20:24:26 <atuljangra> part 2 is basically filelink backend. I'm surprised that you guys are telling me that it is not completed. :s 
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20:25:02 <aleth> All I meant was that it's making progress, but it's not in a state where it would get a r+.
20:25:59 <atuljangra> And my claim is it's completed on my part. It requires on review cycle and we can land it.
20:26:11 <atuljangra> But we are waiting for ui, so we should wait right?
20:27:28 <atuljangra> Also, just to be safe here, I won't be able to produce ui patch today. I'm not in a mental condition to do so. 
20:27:54 <flo-retina> I can understand that.
20:28:20 <atuljangra> Thanks.
20:28:21 <aleth> Right, we decided together it would make more sense to finish the Filelink part including the UI first, before continuing with the issues about the file transfer fallback mechanism.
20:28:40 <atuljangra> aleth: Yes, so what's the problem here?
20:30:34 <aleth> There is no problem, but it's not ready to land yet, that's all I'm saying.
20:30:50 <atuljangra> Because of the UI.
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20:31:52 <atuljangra> Frankly I don;t buy the argument of flo-retina  failing me. All of what is supposed to be done in the project will be completed before the final deadline. 
20:32:10 <atuljangra> And here I'm being failed in the middle of an active project.
20:32:43 <atuljangra> Things remaining are tests and webrtc.
20:32:52 <atuljangra> UI will take at most one week.
20:34:41 <atuljangra> And this gives us around 3-4 weeks of spare time. In which we can handle the different patches land things, fix small things, and documentation.
20:35:24 <flo-retina> atuljangra: we've been very clear with all students that small patches are better, and that things should land before the end of the summer.
20:36:37 <atuljangra> flo-retina: I agree. But that clearance wasn't there at the starting of the project. But that doesn't matter. I'm submitting small patches. 
20:36:48 <qheaden> I have to leave now. Bye all.
20:37:02 <flo-retina> qheaden: good evening
20:37:21 <atuljangra> flo-retina: My main point is everything is seeming to work fine for completion before the official gsoc ending, then why failing.
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20:39:20 <nhnt11> I need to go too. I'll be on a stricter schedule from tomorrow and won't disappear in the evenings (since registration formalities and stuff are done now.)
20:39:36 <nhnt11> Good night..
20:39:44 <flo-retina> nhnt11: good night
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20:41:41 <atuljangra> flo-retina: I just request you to mentor me for some more weeks. If the project is not completed before the deadline, you can surely fail me. But failing this time is not acceptable on my part :(
20:43:59 <gerv> atuljangra: It's not possible to fail a student at an arbitrary point in the program.
20:44:07 <gerv> Google gives two evaluation points - mid-term and the end.
20:44:23 <atuljangra> gerv: I'm saying about the final evaluation.
20:44:25 <gerv> Mozilla does not encourage mentors who are not satisfied at mid-term to pass the student anyway and see if things get better.
20:44:34 <gerv> Because our experience is that they don't.
20:44:52 <gerv> The mid-term evaluation point should not have come as a surprise to you.
20:46:25 <atuljangra> gerv: There was serious problems which were in the way of my work. I've completed my last project successfully and has worked on it after finishing the gsoc too. I guess that beings some credibility that I'll complete the project successfully. 
20:47:32 <gerv> atuljangra: Is it correct that you had a car accident? Of the initial coding period, how much of it was affected by the accident?
20:49:23 <atuljangra> Yes. I emailed instantbird about the same too. And much of the initial period was affected. I was able to actually work from the last week of June.
20:52:05 <gerv> My family is going to London tomorrow, it's 9.50pm and I haven't packed. I don't have any more time now, and the other GSoC admin is flo-retina. 
20:52:28 <atuljangra> gerv: Ok Thanks for your time.
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21:19:48 <atuljangra> gerv suggested me to sleep now. I would go for now. I'll put up the completed patch or atleast a snapshot of the filelink ui tomorrow.
21:20:06 <atuljangra> Sorry if I've been rude. This has been quite hard on me.
21:20:10 <atuljangra> Sorry. Bbye.
21:20:53 <flo-retina> You haven't been rude. And gerv is right that trying to get a good night of sleep is the best thing to do at this point :).
21:21:21 <atuljangra> flo-retina: :)
21:21:23 <atuljangra> Bbye.
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21:36:50 <flo-retina> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=901087 pfff :(
21:37:17 <flo-retina> " We need to implement Google Hangouts in Thunderbird" (for those who don't want to click the link)
21:38:24 <aleth> I like the 'we'
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21:42:00 <Mook_as> the obvious answer is to assign it to the reporter, on the assumption that "we" includes the speaker, right?
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21:49:03 <Mic> It's a Google service, so maybe it would be best to start by estimating the date when it will be discontinued and the amount of work required to see if it is (still) worth it? ;)
21:50:00 <flo-retina> Mook_as: fine with me :-D
21:50:36 <flo-retina> Mic: well, one should start by estimating when Google Talk will be discontinued.
21:51:17 <Mook_as> does hangout have an actual API?
21:51:26 <flo-retina> Mook_as: I'm not aware of any.
21:56:33 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2672 on bug 2066.
21:56:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should display chat rooms
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22:00:07 <nhnt11_phone> Bah, the comments in aleth's review should've been obvious
22:00:11 <nhnt11_phone> :(
22:00:22 <aleth> This happens ;)
22:00:33 <aleth> Fresh pair of eyes, etc
22:00:52 * nhnt11_phone really should go to sleep.
22:01:11 <nhnt11_phone> Bye.
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22:08:48 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2673 on bug 2066.
22:08:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, NEW, New conversation tab should display chat rooms
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