#instantbird log on 07 17 2013

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00:24:10 <Scromple> Greets eveyone
00:25:41 <Scromple> Just looking to at InstantBird as a replacement for Miranda. Does InstantBird have an importer that would allow me to bring the history from Miranda?
00:26:46 <flo-retina> Not yet
00:27:22 <Scromple> Bummer...
00:27:23 <flo-retina> Having importers for other IM clients is a project that got serious attention last year, but isn't ready to release yet.
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00:30:59 <Scromple> flo-retina: Okedoke.... Thanks for the information.
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03:59:53 <atuljangra> Good Morning. :-)
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05:08:04 <atuljangra> clokep mconley: I wqanted to know, how do I get a provider in the ib ui code for testing.
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05:55:39 <atuljangra> I'm not able to figure out how to get the provider to work. If this works, then I'll be able to finish the first working example of filelink in a couple of days.
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07:09:34 <Mic> Good day!
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07:13:45 <nhnt11> Hello
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07:41:43 <Mic> uiConv is a terrible name :(
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07:58:49 <atul> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/248617
08:01:31 <flo-retina> using @mozilla.org/mail/ubuntuone; is fine with us
08:02:20 <atul> flo-retina: Ok. Now, http://pastebin.instantbird.com/248630
08:05:09 <Mic> atul: what about putting your comments in javascript style comments when you set the syntax highlighting to Javascript (or don't highlight at all?).
08:05:35 <atul> Mic: Okay :) That's a good idea.
08:06:43 <Mic> It's a module that you'd like to import by the way. Components implement interfaces...
08:07:31 <atul> Oh, sorry. But you get the problem I'm getting? This module(file) is not found.
08:07:40 <flo-retina> have you copied the oauth.jsm file?
08:08:05 <atul> flo-retina: No, I was going to, but I thought of asking you first.
08:08:20 <flo-retina> why? Don't you obviously need it?
08:09:04 <atul> flo-retina: Yes, but like cloudfile/ we should migrate this file also, right?
08:09:39 <flo-retina> this doesn't seem like a question, or if it is, I don't know what you are asking that wasn't answered immediately above.
08:10:26 <atul> flo-retina:  Disregard that. I just wanted to ask this before moving the file. :)
08:13:06 <flo-retina> atul: what progress did you make yesterday? (I somehow haven't received your status report, and it doesn't seem in my spam folder either :-S)
08:13:59 <atul> flo-retina: I didn't make any progress. I'm sorry. I was just going to write a mail regarding that. I was stuck with my sister's admission the whole day.
08:23:07 * Atuljangra just doesn't know what to write in mail
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08:47:52 <atul_ib> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/248669
08:48:20 <atul_ib> Mic ^
08:48:24 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted feedback for attachment 2605 on bug 2055.
08:48:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2055 enh, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, New conversation tab needs to display open conversations and those on hold.
08:49:57 <Mic> atul_ib: I'm not familiar with that.
08:50:07 <Mic> I also don't know what that file depends on.
08:50:36 <atul_ib> Okay. I should ask flo-retina then, http://pastebin.instantbird.com/248669
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08:51:13 * Mic never knows what f+ and f- are supposed to mean.
08:51:30 <flo-retina> ah, so I'm the only one f-'ing 2055? :-|
08:51:33 <Mic> Isn't the only interesting thing if the feedback was given or not as you'd need to look at it anyways?
08:52:35 <flo-retina> Mic: I usually take "f+" as "the approach is good, please polish/finish the patch" and "f-" as meaning something somewhere between "the approach needs some rethinking" and "this is complete non sense, this bug is invalid, don't waste time on it"
08:52:48 <flo-retina> but yeah, the important part is giving actionable comments
08:53:09 <Mic> OK, I'll keep that in mind.
08:53:16 <flo-retina> uh, log4moz.js :(
08:53:23 <atul_ib> yes :(
08:55:19 * flo-retina is wondering if there a way we can avoid copying this file
08:55:32 <atul_ib> me too.
08:56:10 <Mic> Are we going to have two oauth modules after merging FileLink into our code?
08:56:52 <atul_ib> Mic: no, we'll remove the other one.
08:57:13 <flo-retina> Mic: we currently don't have any, the OAuth module is a fork of our twitter code
08:57:44 <Mic> So we're going to copy the oauth file and make Twitter use it?
08:58:07 <flo-retina> atul_ib: for now, just put log4moz.js in instantbird/modules/
08:58:32 <atul_ib> as log4moz.jsm?
08:58:41 <atul_ib> I mean as an module.
08:58:42 <flo-retina> .js
08:58:47 <atul_ib> ok.
08:58:52 <flo-retina> it sucks that it's in a gloda/ subfolder for tb :(
08:59:57 <atul_ib> :(
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09:11:50 <flo-retina> Mic: "a placeholder icon showing multiple users instead of only one" is this something you would also want to show at the top of conversation bindings for MUCs?
09:12:01 <Mic> Yes :)
09:12:44 <flo-retina> Mic: my reluctance to show the current placeholder icon for conversations where we can't have buddy icon data (ie private conversations with IRC nicks) is that the placeholder doesn't bring any info to the user
09:12:46 <Mic> And I'd like to have an Instantbird logo for this one but that's unrelated ;)
09:13:06 <flo-retina> Mic: if you turn it into a way to quickly differentiate single user / MUCs, then I'm happy to show the icon all the time in there
09:14:13 <flo-retina> (currently the way to do that is seeing the participant list, but I keep thinking we would want to hide it by default, or make it less visible eventually)
09:15:19 <flo-retina> Mic: I would also like a way to specify logos for MUCs we care strongly about
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09:50:37 <flo-retina> aleth: which part of this comment you don't understand?
09:51:44 <aleth> flo-retina: I don't understand what you are asking for here. What do you mean by "keep references"?
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09:52:40 <aleth> (I assume by "N top ranked contacts" you mean "ranked before any kind of filtering is applied")
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10:06:23 <flo-retina> aleth: "keep references" means "do something that will keep the JS garbarge collector from getting rid of the object"
10:06:53 <flo-retina> aleth: yes, ranking before filtering is applied. ie what we will want to display *immediately* when the user opens a new tab
10:07:54 <flo-retina> re bug 2056, is it time to get rid of this addon and instead implement something that can ship by default? ;)
10:07:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2056 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Hide Auto-Joins doesn't work for password-protected channels
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10:25:22 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com cancelled feedback?(benediktp@ymail.c om) for attachment 2589 on bug 2039.
10:25:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2039 nor, --, ---, atuljangra66, ASSI, File Transfer Backend
10:26:32 <clokep> Btw I was able to verify that Twitter doesn't work in c-c . :-/
10:26:45 <clokep> I was able to actually debug WTF was happening though because the debugging capabilities there stink.
10:27:16 <aleth> flo-retina: I thought the whole point of the service was not to collect all the possible entries each time on opening an awesometab
10:27:31 <Mic> clokep: you were or you weren't able to debug?
10:27:40 <clokep> Mic: wasn't.
10:27:51 <flo-retina> aleth: the point of the service is to keep track of ranking information
10:27:54 <aleth> flo-retina: I think if we tried to do this for LIST data for example it would be really sluggish
10:28:15 <aleth> flo-retina: How do you keep track of ranking information without keeping track of the rankable objects? ;)
10:28:16 <flo-retina> hmm
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10:28:56 <flo-retina> aleth: for contacts, you would just have an object containing {contactId1: weight, contactId2: weight, ...}
10:29:34 <flo-retina> aleth: for LIST I'm not sure
10:29:37 <aleth> flo-retina: For contacts, that makes sense. For MUCs, I don't think it works.
10:29:42 <flo-retina> aleth: should the caching happen in the prpl or in the service?
10:29:45 <aleth> And MUCs are much more data.
10:29:57 <aleth> So I wasn't concerned about the contacts ;)\
10:30:06 <flo-retina> aleth: well, MUCs are different data. A single JSON object could be enough.
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10:30:26 <flo-retina> aleth: my concern is about keeping thousands of XPConnect wrapper around all the time.
10:30:30 <flo-retina> *wrappers
10:30:33 <aleth> flo-retina: I'm not sure where that caching should happen, that hasn't been discussed yet
10:31:22 <flo-retina> aleth: I think the service needs to be aware of the MUCs you join frequently (ie highly ranked). The caching of the LIST answer should likely be in the prpl though.
10:31:24 <aleth> flo-retina: How about doing without the XPConnect wrappers by not using an interface for PossibleConversations - just keep them JS properties of the service object
10:31:36 <flo-retina> and we may even want to fetch LIST data lazily
10:31:47 <flo-retina> no reason to fetch it if the user never opens the awesometab, right?
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10:32:06 <aleth> flo-retina: I think fetching it lazily may not be a good user experience
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10:32:22 <aleth> Though I'm not sure. It's just a concern.
10:32:24 <flo-retina> aleth: PossibleConversations don't have wrappers inside the service. The contacts and buddies do (because they come from another JS scope).
10:32:51 <aleth> flo-retina: Oh right, that's true. So it does make sense to treat contacts differently.
10:33:02 <flo-retina> aleth: LIST on connect seems wrong. Especially if the list is huge (freenode, anyone? ;)) and I'm on 3G...
10:33:13 <clokep> LIST on connect will not happen.
10:33:18 <flo-retina> clokep: :)
10:33:19 <clokep> It will be done lazily.
10:33:21 <aleth> I don't mean LIST on connect :D
10:33:35 <aleth> I do mean caching the data somewhere so we have something available on connect.
10:33:35 <clokep> And yes, there will be a slight delay the first time.
10:33:57 <flo-retina> clokep: can we LIST with the user-entered filter string?
10:34:03 <aleth> flo-retina: No
10:34:04 <clokep> flo-retina: Yes.
10:34:05 * flo-retina isn't sure how that works on the server
10:34:18 <aleth> clokep: Really? Have you tried? I couldn't get that to work.
10:34:21 <flo-retina> clokep, aleth: I think you need to talk and agree ;)
10:34:29 <clokep> flo-retina: Is there any way to do the HTTP requests in Thunderbird?
10:34:39 <flo-retina> clokep: Http.jsm? ;)
10:34:54 <clokep> Yeah, the logging doesn't seem to work. :(
10:34:58 * clokep mumbles.
10:35:03 <flo-retina> because it doesn't exist?
10:35:10 <clokep> aleth: flo-retina: You can only supply a list of channels, it's not a filter. :(
10:35:23 <aleth> clokep: Exactly.
10:35:25 <flo-retina> I don't remember what the butchering of the logging was there, but they disliked that we weren't using log4moz
10:35:34 <clokep> log4moz is crap.
10:35:40 <clokep> Yeah I'll look at it again.
10:35:44 <flo-retina> that's something for #chatdev ;)
10:36:35 <flo-retina> could well be that what you said is a very concise summary of the way I feel about log4moz though ;).
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10:38:30 * clokep might have found the issue.
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10:39:32 <clokep> Mic: aleth: Is there anyway to unpack omni.ja from Firefox/Thunderbird? :-S
10:39:40 <flo-retina> unzip?
10:39:46 <clokep> 7-zip won't open it.
10:39:47 <aleth> clokep: What do you mean?
10:39:51 <flo-retina> yeah, 7-zip dislike it
10:40:00 <flo-retina> other zip tools work though
10:40:01 <Mic> No, they've got the spec-conforming broken zip files, remember? ;)
10:40:02 <clokep> Ah, but Windows will. ;)
10:40:06 <aleth> clokep: Ah, maybe try renaming the extension to ZIP
10:40:13 <Mic> Windows 7/8 should be able to do it, yes.
10:41:11 <aleth> I've seen an unzip tool choke on it until renamed.
10:41:47 <aleth> Avoids the format autodetection I guess...
10:41:49 <clokep> Thanks guy.s
10:49:13 <clokep> flo-retina: When you have a second https://bug894367.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=777024
10:51:09 <flo-retina> so you correctly get an access token, and it's when fetching the timelines that things go wrong?
10:52:51 <clokep> Seems like it, yes.
10:54:36 <Mic> flo-retina: what do you have in mind for bug 2056?
10:54:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2056 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Hide Auto-Joins doesn't work for password-protected channels
10:54:46 <Mic> Something like session restore for conversations?
10:56:05 <Mic> Bug 2056 would be a subset of that...
10:57:39 <flo-retina> Mic: a simple-easy-to-implement subset of session restore. Ie just remember which conversations were on hold before, and put them on hold again after a restart/reconnected, unless the user does some action to see them (join chat, select from new tab, etc...)
10:58:38 <flo-retina> a patch for this in my review queue would likely get attention from me quickly ;)
11:00:09 <Mic> I think I might do that.
11:00:18 <aleth> Yay :)
11:01:17 <flo-retina> Mic: this 'bug' literally annoys me twice a day every day. (ie I put 10 conversations on hold by hand every time I restart Instantbird).
11:02:05 <aleth> Mic: The data needed to reconnect to a MUC is the chatroomfields data (which we cache already whenever a reconnect is wanted, at least for IRC)
11:02:05 <Mic> Would you like to try my session restore add-on if I fixed it there? ;)
11:02:56 <flo-retina> aleth: this is not about auto-reconnecting MUCs. It's just about putting on hold MUCs that are auto-joined and were on hold before.
11:03:40 <aleth> flo-retina: That would be easier to implement, right.
11:03:44 <Mic> It restores status, status message, account status and conversations (convs on hold are broken (cloke p would object if I added an 'at the moment' here most likely? :S)
11:03:44 <clokep> Also my failinig moz22 build: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/248795
11:03:45 <flo-retina> aleth: auto-reconnecting MUCs is the long term plan to get rid of the "auto-join" field of accounts, but I suspect it may be more difficult to implement
11:04:34 <flo-retina> clokep: windows build logs with their crazy wrapping are so painful to read :(
11:04:46 <clokep> Sorry.
11:04:50 <clokep> I copied out of my terminal
11:04:54 <flo-retina> wait, you got libpurple building? :)
11:05:42 <flo-retina> you apparently still have something broken in the libpurple makefiles for the dynamically loaded prpls (that are built after purplexpcom)
11:06:16 <clokep> Yes, I know. :P Seems to be when it calls submake.
11:06:20 <clokep> No idea what's wrong though. :(
11:06:50 <flo-retina> it says "No makefile found"
11:06:57 <flo-retina> does the makefile file actually exist in there?
11:07:24 <flo-retina> in there = in the null/ folder
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11:08:30 <clokep> There's no null folder in my obj dir
11:09:30 <flo-retina> ahah
11:09:59 <flo-retina> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/null/Makefile.in exists?
11:10:58 <flo-retina> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/makefiles.sh#18 still exists?
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11:13:15 <clokep> Yes
11:13:49 <clokep> That doesn't mean it's used. :)
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11:47:47 <Mic> bye
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12:05:32 <atul_ib> !seen mconley
12:05:33 <instantbot> mconley was last seen 1 day, 19 hours, 38 minutes and 58 seconds ago, changing nick to mconley|lunch.
12:05:41 <clokep_> atul_ib: What's your question?
12:05:52 <atul_ib> clokep_: hi :D
12:05:59 <clokep_> flo-retina: Looks like you're right, allmakefiles.sh isn't supposed to exist anymore, Idk what replaces it.
12:06:03 * clokep_ is chillin' in #build.
12:08:10 <atul_ib> clokep_: Actually I was trying to use an ubuntuone account for testing. Since I'm not creating the entire logon process, I wanted to know how can I get the oauth tokens required by ubuntuone for testing?
12:09:51 <atul_ib> clokep_: Some code for the same would be http://pastebin.instantbird.com/248839
12:11:46 <atul_ib> I guess, I've something. I should try this out.
12:12:55 <clokep_> atul_ib: Set it up in Thunderbird and copy and paste them in? ;)
12:12:57 <aleth> atul_ib: Can't you connect with TB and then grab the values from the TB preferences (or wherever they are stored)?
12:13:11 <atul_ib> that's cheating :P
12:13:16 <atul_ib> Hehe, I'l try this.
12:13:32 <clokep_> Why can't you do the whole sequence? :-S
12:13:42 <clokep_> Isn't that all part of the cloudfile stuff you have?
12:13:43 <aleth> atul_ib: Either that or just add the Preferences pane to IB
12:13:54 <aleth> (If that's where it's configured from()
12:14:29 <atul_ib> I was actually trying to send oauth requests, but just now got the 401 UNAUTHORISED. Anyway, I'll copy paste.
12:14:43 <atul_ib> clokep_: whole sequence? Sorry I don't understand.
12:15:06 <clokep_> atul_ib: Can't you just set up the object and call "login" or something and it'll get them?
12:15:15 <atul_ib> aleth: Adding the Preferences pane seems good. I'll try it after copy pasting :P
12:15:17 <aleth> atul_ib: Isn't it easier to add the whole set up dialog stuff?
12:15:26 <clokep_> It's really REALLY REALLY REALLY (I can't stress this enough) for us to help when we have no idea how your current code looks.
12:16:33 <aleth> atul_ib: Can't you push a commit whenever you have something more or less working (e.g. the build succeeds after adding cloudfile etc)
12:16:56 <atul_ib> Oh okay. Pushing in 5 seconds.
12:18:01 <clokep_> I'd suggest just bringing up the http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/cloudfile/content/addAccountDialog.xul file, which I think you've already included?
12:18:03 <aleth> atul_ib: Don't forget to put the UI parts of however Setup for Filelink is done in IB not chat
12:18:23 <atul_ib> aleth: Yes. :)
12:18:32 <clokep_> Um....I'm not sure I totally agree with that, but OK. ;)
12:18:41 <atul_ib> clokep_: Yes,
12:18:52 <atul_ib> Also should I add the cloudlink files to my repo?
12:18:59 <aleth> clokep_: I mean the bits that will be forked (hence UI)
12:19:06 <clokep_> atul_ib: Of course.
12:19:07 <aleth> e.g. we won't refer to "attachments" in the strings
12:19:13 <atul_ib> clokep_: Okay :)
12:19:40 <clokep_> aleth: Yes, that's in different parts anyway though, we can probably (initially at least) just use their addAccount dialog.
12:19:43 <aleth> As I haven't seen any code, I don't know how to best split off those parts ;)
12:20:05 <aleth> Sure, for now atul_ib don't worry about changing any strings :D
12:20:21 <atul_ib> Okay :D
12:20:33 <atul_ib> My aim currently is to have a working filelink :D
12:20:43 <aleth> Yes please :D
12:20:59 <atul_ib> :)
12:21:04 <aleth> That's more important than where each file ultimately ends up ;)
12:24:23 <aleth> Btw I see a lot of UI stuff here which looks like it can pretty much be copied over to start with https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/filelink-large-attachments
12:25:15 <atul_ib> Pushed. But It's a WIP :s
12:25:32 <aleth> If it wasn't a WIP, you would ask for review ;)
12:25:46 <atul_ib> heh :P
12:26:28 <clokep_> atul_ib: Everything in chat/cloudfile/ is totally unmodified, correct?
12:26:53 * clokep_ just wants to make sure.
12:27:15 <atul_ib> Yes. I've just added a Cu.reportError statement in nsUbuntuOne.js's init function. Except that, everything is unmodified.
12:30:25 <clokep_> atul_ib: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/compose/content/MsgComposeCommands.js is where that code gets called and things get uploaded.
12:30:57 <atul_ib> Yes. I've been through that file..
12:31:05 <clokep_> atul_ib: You also need to add http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/locales/en-US/chrome/messenger/cloudfile/ btw
12:31:37 <atul_ib> Yes. :D
12:32:52 <clokep_> OK, so what's your actual question then?
12:33:18 <aleth> I don't think there was one anymore.
12:33:49 <atul_ib> Yes, I'll just add that dialog and then will follow the sequence and get those values. 
12:33:56 <atul_ib> This should solve the problem imho
12:35:39 <clokep_> OK.
12:36:57 <atul_ib> I'll take a break for now. I'll go for a walk, need some fresh air. I'll be back in night. :)
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13:37:14 <qheaden> Hello everyone.
13:39:02 <qheaden> clokep_: So, I plan on working on that feedback you and flo-retina gave me today. My hope is to have everything sorted by the end of the day.
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13:45:06 <clokep_> qheaden: :) Sorry I didn't get a chance to do the second part of that review..
13:45:25 <qheaden> clokep_: No problem! :)
13:49:43 <clokep_> And sorry again for asking you to move code back and forth so much. :-[
13:50:45 <qheaden> That's okay. As long as things are neat. :)
13:51:21 * qheaden proceeds to place each function in a separate .jsm in protest! :P
13:57:18 <clokep_> Has anyone played w/ not using libpurple for jabber? ;)
13:57:58 <flo-retina> the only jabber account I really use is gtalk :-S
13:58:45 <aleth> I'm using it but haven't had a conversation with it yet.
13:59:20 <flo-retina> ah, you thought about flipping that pref? :)
13:59:34 <aleth> Yes, just to see what would happen ;)
13:59:39 * flo-retina forgot about it as soon as it was checked in
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14:04:32 <aleth> Yesterday I thought JS-XMPP was working just great until I realised there hadn't been a nightly :D
14:09:02 <qheaden> clokep_: About the switch statement in the HTTP and TCP callback methods, I found that to be the simplest way.
14:11:09 <qheaden> I found the staging system I implemented to be good since the requests are async, and we have to keep track of what kind of response we are to expect next.
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14:26:09 <qheaden> clokep_: Does the UI currently support the user adding an invite message when adding a buddy to their list?
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14:56:05 <clokep_> qheaden: I don't know, ask Florian.
14:56:19 <clokep_> qheaden: That's easier than using a different callback? That surprises me greatly.
14:56:41 <qheaden> clokep_: Elaborate on "using a different callback".
14:57:45 <qheaden> flo-retina: Does the Ib UI support adding a message when asking a buddy for a friend request?
15:00:12 <flo-retina> qheaden: no, but that sucks, so if you want to fix it, you are welcome to do so :)
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15:06:40 <qheaden> clokep_: Sorry to flood your mailbox with commits. :P
15:07:49 * flo-retina just reproduced bug 790 :-S
15:07:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Some messages lost during magic copy
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15:14:49 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 2057 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
15:14:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2057 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [JS-XMPP] ssl_error_rx_record_too_long SSL connection failure with swissjabber.ch
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15:24:13 <clokep_> qheaden: You separate each things in that switch statement to a separate function and then when you call doXhrRequest you set that function as the handler for the callback.
15:25:40 <flo-retina> aleth: "shows up as normal message (not an error or warning) in the error console" you mean as a connection progress message?
15:25:45 <flo-retina> that's very strange :-S
15:26:17 <aleth> It also shows up in the account manager at least.
15:27:11 <qheaden> clokep_: That sounds reasonable.
15:35:54 <qheaden> I'll be back in a few.
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16:12:24 <qheaden> Back.
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16:19:41 * nhnt11 wonders what end of the spectrum flo-retina thinks his patch is at (http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m105)
16:25:46 * nhnt11 has been trying to figure out exactly how to restructure his patch after reading all the comments
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16:59:45 <clokep_> nhnt11: Ask if you're unusre.
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17:00:54 <qheaden> clokep_: About setting key 1 and 3 to the username in acceptConferenceInvite, look here http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/yahoo/yahoochat.c#828.
17:01:34 <clokep_> qheaden: I like this change: https://bitbucket.org/qheaden/instantbird-gsoc-2013/commits/54e7893780ae54f7272a9c8d89919503de999f95 :)
17:02:01 <qheaden> clokep_: Yeah. It was a pretty awesome suggestion from you. :)
17:02:31 <clokep_> qheaden: OK, what am I looking at?
17:03:22 <qheaden> clokep_: libpurple sets key 1 and 3 to the same value when sending a conference logon packet. In your review, you were wondering if one key represented the username, and another the alias.
17:03:57 <clokep_> qheaden: Isn't that what your comment suggests? :P
17:04:06 <clokep_> And just because that's what libpurple does doesn't mean I'm not right. ;)
17:04:11 <qheaden> :P
17:04:45 <qheaden> I'll have to look more into it. Perhaps I'll need to WireShark the official Yahoo client.
17:05:55 <qheaden> clokep_: But isn't the alias in Instantbird supposed to stay "local"? I thought it was just for you to be able to change the way your name is displayed.
17:06:02 <clokep_> I'm not too concerned about that though. :) Matching libpurple is probably OK.
17:06:35 <qheaden> For example, if I set the alias to "me".
17:09:22 <qheaden> clokep_: Did you want me to make a default buddy invite message "Would you be my buddy?" or something similar?
17:42:20 <clokep_> qheaden: Hard to say without knowing how it is displayed.
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18:03:05 <qheaden> clokep_: I think notifyLogon and notifyLogoff shouldn't call addParticipant and removeParticipant.
18:03:12 <clokep_> qheaden: OK, why?
18:03:57 <qheaden> Just seems cleaner to keep their purposes separate. Since they are simple methods, it would seem better if they did one thing. That's just me though.
18:04:23 <qheaden> Are there options that allow you to turn off join/part messages in Ib?
18:04:58 <clokep_> No.
18:05:12 <clokep_> I don't see the reason for them to be separate if they're ever called separate.
18:05:21 <clokep_> And they're such simple methods, it seems like we should combine them. ;)
18:06:03 <qheaden> clokep_: Okay. I'll just write the notification messages from add/removeParticipant.
18:06:30 <clokep_> Sorry to overrule you. :(
18:07:04 <qheaden> No, that's better. :)
18:07:42 <clokep_> We'd actually like if those messages were part of core.
18:07:45 <clokep_> One second, let me find the bug.
18:07:55 <clokep_> (Such that we could then have an option to disable them.)
18:10:18 <clokep_> qheaden: bug 1230
18:10:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Join/part messages should be handled by imConversations.js.
18:10:23 <clokep_> If you wanted to look at that, I'd appreciate it.
18:11:23 <qheaden> clokep_: Okay, great. That looks like a bug I can fix when I work on moving code into jsProtoHelper.
18:12:50 <clokep_> I hope so. :)
18:12:54 <clokep_> It bothers me. :P
18:12:58 <qheaden> :P
18:13:08 * nhnt11 is going to work on the "+" button for a while now.
18:13:10 <clokep_> (It's silly to have the same strings all over the place... :-/)
18:13:33 <qheaden> clokep_: So if I change the protocol Ids to the real ones, it will be automatically preffed off?
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18:20:20 * qheaden is having issues with buddy removal on account deletion again. :-S
18:21:56 <clokep_> qheaden: Did you test the @yaohoo.co.jp address thing?
18:22:09 <qheaden> clokep_: Oh no, I haven't. I'll test that in a few.
18:35:55 <qheaden> clokep_: Yes, it looks like @yahoo.co.jp has to be stripped.
18:41:33 <clokep_> qheaden: Cool.
18:41:53 <qheaden> I just pushed a fix for it.
18:46:22 <qheaden> clokep_: So how can I access my prpl after I change the ids in the manifest file to prpl-yahoo and prpl-yahoojp?
18:46:40 <qheaden> I tried it, and everything runs, but I only see the libpurple versions.
18:48:23 <clokep_> qheaden: You have to remove the manifest entries for libpurple.
18:48:45 <clokep_> qheaden: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6ac1e104befc
18:49:08 <qheaden> OK. Thanks.
18:49:54 <clokep_> (You don't want the all-instantbird.js change obviously.)
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18:52:09 <qheaden> clokep_: Why not? Doesn't that allow it to be preffed off?
18:52:23 <qheaden> clokep_: I'll manually change my config after changing all-instantbird.js.
18:52:36 <clokep_> qheaden: Oh, yes. You can do that too. :)
18:52:42 * qheaden dreams of prpl.manifest to be empty.
18:52:50 <clokep_> qheaden: I more of meant that if you make that change, it'll still be libpurple.
18:52:55 <clokep_> Hahah. That'd be a lot of work. :)
18:53:00 <qheaden> :P
18:53:54 <nhnt11> qheaden: Is the newtab button theming messed up on linux too when you have a lot of tabs open (overflow mode)?
18:54:11 <qheaden> nhnt11: Not sure. I switched to developing on Windows.
18:54:17 <nhnt11> Ah ok
18:54:24 <qheaden> Just so I can use an external monitor. :P
18:54:32 * qheaden hates the Nvidia Optimus drivers for Linux.
18:54:57 * nhnt11 too
18:55:27 <qheaden> clokep_: How's this look? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/249081
18:56:17 <qheaden> Oops. Noticed I still have yahootest in there.
18:57:44 <clokep_> qheaden: No spaces after the commas.
18:58:09 <qheaden> OK.
18:59:07 <clokep_> And yes, get rid of all the "tests" and it should be OK.
19:07:23 <qheaden> clokep_: Okay, I made the changes, but I still can't seem to access my plug-in, and the pref didn't change to the new default I made. Do I need to purge something?
19:07:33 <qheaden> I tried -purgecaches, and I tried removing my profile.
19:10:29 <clokep_> qheaden: "pref didn't change to the new default I made" what?
19:10:55 <clokep_> Did you build tier_app?
19:11:03 <clokep_> (Well really instantbird/ should do it.)
19:11:05 <qheaden> clokep_: When I opened the config editor, it didn't have "prpl-japper,prpl-yahoo,prpl-yahoojp.
19:11:14 <qheaden> clokep_: Ahh, no I didn't. Silly me.
19:11:18 <clokep_> :-D
19:11:22 <clokep_> I've done that before.
19:11:30 * qheaden is too used to running is makechat bash alias.
19:11:32 <clokep_> You forget when all you have to do is rebuild chat/ (or chat/protocols/yahoo) :P
19:11:40 <qheaden> :P
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19:16:57 <qheaden> clokep_: How can we reuse the old Yahoo! icons?
19:21:07 <clokep_> qheaden: Yes, we will.
19:21:19 <clokep_> qheaden: When we delete the old Yahoo code we'll move the locations of them and such.
19:21:38 <qheaden> \o/
19:22:51 * clokep_ wonders how difficult it would be to make FileLink providers for image sharing sites....that only worked with certain file types.
19:23:10 <clokep_> (E.g. instead of having to upload files to imgur, we just drag & drop on the IRC window)
19:28:58 <clokep_> That work? :)
19:29:42 <qheaden> clokep_: Building tier_app? Yeah. :)
19:30:09 <qheaden> clokep_: In your feedback, what did you mean by this comment? "Can kPacketIdentifier use StringToBytes when defined?"
19:30:18 <clokep_> qheaden: Btw have you tested your code w/ both "@yahoo.com" accounts and other accounts?
19:30:30 <clokep_> qheaden: Umm...I don't know how to saoy that another way.
19:30:47 <clokep_> kPacketIdentifier = StringToBytes(<foo>) instead of converting it each time we use it?
19:31:07 <qheaden> clokep_: Oh okay. Yeah, that is more efficient.
19:31:27 <qheaden> clokep_: Also, I haven't been able to test it out on other accounts yet.
19:31:36 * qheaden wonders if you can create a Yahoo account using another email.
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19:32:05 <qheaden> Yahoo's federation with other clients has been removed.
19:32:22 <clokep_> qheaden: That ability has NOTHING to do with federation.
19:32:32 <clokep_> It has to do with a Yahoo account that doesn't use a Yahoo email address.
19:33:04 <clokep_> We're not concerned with Federation. :)
19:33:19 <qheaden> clokep_: I don't see how you can sign up using an alternate email address. Alternate addresses are only used for password recovery.
19:33:24 <qheaden> https://edit.yahoo.com/registration?.src=fpctx&.intl=us&.done=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2F
19:33:28 * clokep_ is looking over things on https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ELTNA6O44F ....
19:34:13 * clokep_ wonders what happens if you log in w/ Facebook or Google or open ID. :-S
19:34:51 <clokep_> qheaden: It's also possible I'm thinking of MSN (where I actually use my Yahoo address to log in...)
19:35:15 <qheaden> clokep_: I'm going to try Google.
19:35:39 <clokep_> nhnt11: Any luck with your little + symbol?
19:35:59 <nhnt11> Um, I'm working on it.
19:36:07 <nhnt11> It appears flo was right that it may take a couple hours ;)
19:36:17 * nhnt11 shouldn't question flo's judgement on these things.
19:36:45 <clokep_> I'm sure once you get it working they're release that new tab style for Firefox that mconley is working on. ;)
19:36:57 <nhnt11> :P
19:37:03 <qheaden> clokep_: After logging in with Google, they require me to upgrade my account and create a Yahoo ID to access Yahoo! Mail. Yahoo! Mail also contains Yahoo! Messenger.
19:37:06 <mconley> \o/
19:37:35 <clokep_> qheaden: Roger, I guess that's not a feature. :)
19:37:41 * clokep_ is going through the etherpad.
19:38:09 * qheaden wonders what's the point of allowing logins from other sites then.
19:39:03 <clokep_> To mark off a checkbox, who knows.
19:39:13 <clokep_> Anyway, seems like you're almost done with https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ELTNA6O44F
19:39:27 * clokep_ thought Mic was going to do a blog post on Awesometab...
19:41:04 <qheaden> clokep_: Yeah, we are close.
19:41:36 <clokep_> + our comments.
19:41:46 <clokep_> And I know I owe you comments on yahoo.js, I'll try to do that tonight.
19:41:50 <Mic> clokep_: I still want to but I haven't drafted anything yet. How does publishing of blog postings work by the way? I don't think I have an account on our blog (if there are such a thing as accounts for us)...
19:41:59 <clokep_> (In between the other 50 0things I have going on...)
19:42:08 <clokep_> Mic: Some people are editors, Florian and I are admins.
19:42:13 <clokep_> Anyone with accounts can write posts.
19:42:15 <clokep_> We can publish them.
19:42:23 <qheaden> clokep_: I'm almost done with the comments you gave me. I'm completely done with the comments Florian gave me.
19:43:59 <clokep_> Actually looks like authors can publish too. Just can't add users, etc.
19:44:01 <clokep_> qheaden: Nice. :)
20:02:45 <nhnt11> Mic: To select something which is /not/ the child of a particular parent, would :not(parent) > child work?
20:02:59 * nhnt11 is trying but wonders if Mic already knows
20:03:42 <Mic> I don't know but it's well possible that this works.
20:04:44 <nhnt11> So it does :)
20:04:58 * nhnt11 should have thought of this way earlier, it solves all my problems
20:05:15 <nhnt11> The newtab button only gets screwed up when the tab bar is overflowing right?
20:05:21 <nhnt11> (on windows)
20:05:23 <Mic> Works.
20:06:17 * Mic has lots of small html files with tests for things like that lying around ;)
20:06:27 <Mic> There's one more now...
20:07:05 <nhnt11> :)
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20:11:28 * Mic found a keyboard navigation bug on the latest nightly :(
20:11:48 <nhnt11> Mic: New conv tab?
20:11:54 <Mic> Yep.
20:12:02 <nhnt11> What is it?
20:12:32 <Mic> nhnt11: move the mouse over the list and use the arrow keys to go through the list. As soon as the list scrolls, the selection jumps to the item that is now under the mouse pointer.
20:13:09 * nhnt11 tries
20:13:44 <nhnt11> Hmm
20:14:37 * nhnt11 can think of hacks to fix this, but nothing clean..
20:15:48 <nhnt11> http://puu.sh/3FiHH.png :(
20:16:57 <nhnt11> Bah, I need to set up an Ib build on windows
20:17:19 <nhnt11> I've got the newtab button fixed on Mac, but no way to test on Windows/Linux :(
20:18:11 <Mic> Cool :)
20:18:40 <Mic> I didn't know that escape will clear the search box first and then close the tab if pressed again.
20:19:02 <nhnt11> Mic: Do you not like that behavior?
20:19:06 <Mic> I do!
20:19:11 <nhnt11> :)
20:20:41 <nhnt11> Interestingly, once I thought of the :not(parent) > child thing, the fix for the newtab button styling took ~2 minutes :)
20:20:54 <nhnt11> I don't know if flo wanted me to port the latest css from Fx though
20:21:03 <nhnt11> (It seems mostly to be the same)
20:21:43 <nhnt11> I suppose I should get the retina icons working now
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20:25:36 <Mic> Could you port the Australis theme while you're at it? :P
20:26:06 <nhnt11> :P
20:32:32 <nhnt11> ok, retina icon working too :)
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20:40:21 <nhnt11> I have to go now
20:40:28 * nhnt11 will likely have new patches ready tomorrow
20:40:36 <nhnt11> Good night
20:41:33 <Mic> Good night!
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20:58:50 * atuljangra is able to send files via filelink :-)
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21:11:55 <Mic> atuljangra: great :)
21:12:32 <atuljangra> Just working on creating links and sending in chat. Will push the code before sleeping :)
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21:36:40 <Mic> atuljangra: make sure to send an email with a link to the changeset.
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21:36:44 <Mic> I'm really curious :)
21:37:58 <atuljangra> Mic: Okay :-) I'll include it in the daily report. But that would be WIP :-D So just look it from different eye. I'll upload a cleaned up patch tomorrow.
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22:15:40 <flo-retina> nhnt11: well, if I thought your bug should be resolved as invalid, I would just say so ;) (or just do it!). :)
22:17:27 <flo-retina> qheaden_away: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130717#m427 are you somehow confusing the local alias and the display name?
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22:27:56 <flo-retina> I wonder what's going on with: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=895150
22:27:58 <flo-retina> is Magic Copy not enabled in Thunderbird?
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22:32:08 <atuljangra> flo-retina: I've sent the daily report. I'll go and sleep now :-)
22:35:09 <atuljangra> BBye :D
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22:37:03 <flo-retina> ah, that bug was filed by Mook_as, he can likely fix it :-P
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22:46:49 <clokep> qheaden_away: What flo said. ;)
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23:41:56 <Mook_as> bah, that means I'll have to build tbird
23:42:28 <clokep> :P
23:42:36 <clokep> I haven't been able to get TB to build in a while. :-/