#instantbird log on 05 19 2013

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00:11:06 <nhnt11> atuljangra: complicated :(
00:11:20 <nhnt11> All tests now run fine
00:11:34 <nhnt11> Will do manual testing again before submitting a patch
00:11:38 <nhnt11> then you can look at it :P
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00:38:04 <nhnt11> Came across something interesting
00:39:20 <nhnt11> Though the debug log shows the raw message as "ACTION \\\\m/" (for /me \\m/), the regex in the ctcp dequote function seems to see it as "\\m/" and not "\\\\m/"
00:39:37 <nhnt11> I'm going to take a closer look tomorrow. need some sleep
00:39:43 <nhnt11> Good night/morning!
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01:53:30 <instantbot> atuljangra66@gmail.com requested feedback from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2438 on bug 653.
01:53:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653 enh, --, ---, atuljangra66, ASSI, Configurable alternate IRC nicks
01:53:46 * atuljangra needs some sleep
01:53:50 <atuljangra> bbye folks :-)
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04:34:29 <clokep> atuljangra: We track configure.in, it wouldn't make sense to track configure.
04:34:36 <clokep> Besides that I'm really unsure what you're asking.
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09:03:28 <flo-retina> atuljangra: I would be curious to know what you did to resolve your build issue.
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12:15:06 <Edward> Hello, I'm just a new user who's testing instantbird. Is there anybody kind enough to answer two little doubts tha I have about it?
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12:18:03 <clokep> Edward: Just ask and hopefully someone will answer.
12:19:50 <Edward> Ok, let's go. I might seem kind of a noob; but i haven't been able to find where is the button (if it exists; that should exist) of having someone in your buddy's list that you want to blok, but not delete him
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12:21:42 <clokep> There's no way to edit your blocklist currently in Instantbird.
12:22:09 <clokep> I don't know what protocol you're using, but if it's a server side block list then it should still work fine if you configure it in a different program.
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12:23:20 <Edward> That probably answers a lot of questions. Thank you very much. So you propose that I might be able to block it in another client programm (if it's for instance Windows messenger)
12:23:33 <Edward> and then test instantbird
12:23:33 <clokep> Yes.
12:23:54 <clokep> Can I ask what the use case of keeping someone on your buddy list but not blocking them is? :)
12:23:58 <clokep> (That seems strange to me.)
12:25:41 <Edward> well, yes. It should be. But there's something in this world called hypocrisy that should be rolling and rolling. It' a shame; but it's life (for both sides; blocked and blocking one)
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12:27:13 <clokep> Hm. OK...
12:27:15 <Edward> and I have refered as a buddy as some random person whoever it can be that has your mailing account and has added you to some protocol chat thing
12:29:43 <clokep> OK.
12:29:58 <clokep> We do have a bug open about blocking buddies.
12:30:03 <clokep> It's 'mostly about adding UI, IIRC.
12:30:10 <clokep> bug 135, it looks like.
12:30:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Ignore/Block Buddy
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12:30:40 <Edward> yes, I've found that before
12:31:09 <Edward> but I was really stranged that couldn't be allowed, even finding that
12:31:43 <Edward> (ok, it's a bot
12:31:45 <Edward> wonderful)
12:31:49 <clokep> "really stranged"?
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12:31:59 <Edward> yes
12:32:21 <clokep> Well no one ever added the UI for it, so we don't support it. :)
12:32:53 <clokep> Unfortunately it's one of those things you don't use daily, etc. so it doesn't really bother us every day...
12:34:02 <Edward> well, if I had to implement some kind of software like this; if it's not enterprise policy (that it's not in that case I think)
12:34:14 <Edward> It should be one of the first things to be implemented
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12:34:22 <Edward> after the sowtware runs
12:34:27 <Edward> software
12:34:52 <Edward> (IMHO)
12:34:58 <clokep> We'd love for someone to implement it and would certainly help someone to work on it!
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13:32:14 <flo-retina> clokep: I think we are in general a bit reluctant to implement features that encourage lying ;)
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13:35:11 <flo-retina> doesn't mean we wouldn't take a correct patch though :)
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13:45:32 <clokep> flo-retina: Blocking people is a lot more than just lying.
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13:48:44 <flo-retina> clokep: blocking them while keeping them in the contact list so that they don't see you removed them is very similar to lying to me ;)
13:49:10 <flo-retina> I know there are other use cases; but blocking interruptions from people not in the contact list is good enough for lots of them
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13:56:10 <clokep> flo-retina: I'm just talking about blocking.
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14:22:14 * clokep has a feeling we're going to need to add tests to http.jsm when adding it to m-c. ;)
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14:27:01 <flo-retina> really? ;)
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14:39:06 * clokep doesn't really want to build m-c just to add a module.
14:39:07 <clokep> Bah.
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15:08:53 <flo-retina> clokep: maybe you can use the try server instead?
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15:20:52 <nhnt11> flo-retina: clokep is the authority here on IRC, correct?
15:22:32 <flo-retina> nhnt11: clokep knows everything about IRC (and can usually quote RFCs even without checking them first :-P). aleth knows a lot too. And I know a bit (I did the initial review of the IRC code)
15:23:30 <nhnt11> okay
15:24:18 <nhnt11> This CTCP dequote is behaving very strangely. Though the raw message in the debug log is "\\m/", the raw message that is passed to the dequoting function is "\m/"
15:24:41 <nhnt11> I don't get why. It seems to be receiving an already-dequoted message :/
15:25:19 <flo-retina> You'll likely want clokep's insight there :-|
15:25:28 <nhnt11> Okay :P
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15:49:52 <clokep_wp8> Make sure you're printing it the same way, if you stringify it, it'll show
15:50:18 <clokep_wp8> The quoting, if you just print it, no quoting will be shown.
15:51:13 <clokep_wp8> Have I mentioned i hate quoting?
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15:57:43 * atuljangra yes :D
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16:25:33 <nhnt11> In code, "\x5C\x5C" is equivalent to "\\\\" right?
16:38:20 <Even> If you are using ASCII or UTF-8, yes.
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18:31:47 <atuljangra> clokep did you see the patch?
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18:45:47 <Mic> Surprising: Session Restore is experimental and IB noticed the compatibility bump on AIO anyways.
18:46:11 <Mic> I thought it was propagated for experimental add-ons? Or were it actual updates that didn't work?
18:46:24 <Mic> *wasn't propagated
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21:50:52 <flo-retina> Mic: I think it's compatibility bumps that don't work for sandboxed add-ons
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