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Good catch! 18:12:41 <aleth> flo-retina: You'll have to replace the existing one in the blog post with it 18:14:09 <flo-retina> aleth: thanks 18:14:55 <aleth> I didn't notice at the time as the FF image previewer doesn't handle transparency very well. 18:15:46 <aleth> Any luck with the Windows build problem? 18:33:50 --> nhnt11|phone has joined #instantbird 18:38:24 <-- nhnt11|phone has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )) 18:40:34 <-- Nirgali has quit (Ping timeout) 18:40:49 --> Nirgali has joined #instantbird 18:55:11 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:05:13 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:17:12 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: wnayes) 19:25:47 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 19:26:00 <-- chrisccoulson_ has quit (Client exited) 19:26:02 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:27:37 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 19:28:23 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:30:46 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:27:11 <flo-retina> aleth: I haven't looked yet 20:27:28 <flo-retina> aleth: the only interesting thing is that it's possible to reproduce the issue on Mac :) 20:27:43 <flo-retina> http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/IMG_0053_small.jpg taken today ;) 20:29:27 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:31:46 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 20:31:54 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:37:42 <aleth> flo-retina: nice shot! interesting perspective (did you crouch?) 20:40:24 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 20:40:29 <flo-retina> I almost always do when taking a picture of a car. I want the lense to be at the same height as the head lights 20:40:41 <nhnt11> Who uses linux here? 20:40:47 <aleth> nhnt11: me 20:40:54 <nhnt11> (I seem to be interrupting something about cars ;) ) 20:41:04 <flo-retina> me; (very) rarely these days. 20:41:05 <nhnt11> Okay I just installed ubuntu 13.04 20:41:15 <nhnt11> And I downloaded instantbird 20:41:30 <flo-retina> nhnt11: yeah, I tend to post off topic pictures; especially during the week-ends :-] 20:41:32 <nhnt11> When i do $./instantbird, I get "./instantbird-bin: no such file or dir" 20:41:55 * nhnt11 quickly checks and sees that it's Wednesday 20:41:56 <flo-retina> are you on linux 64 bit? 20:42:00 <aleth> flo-retina: that definitely works - it looks right :) 20:42:12 <nhnt11> Yeah. I figured that may be the problem.. is it? 20:42:18 <nhnt11> I haven't used linux in aaaaages 20:42:24 <aleth> nhnt11: You have to install the 32 bit libraries 20:42:32 <aleth> (as we don't have a 64 bit build) 20:42:39 <flo-retina> nhnt11: sudo apt-get install ia32libs 20:42:45 <nhnt11> thanks 20:42:53 * aleth is reminded of the FAQ 20:43:07 <nhnt11> Hey I googled for 10 minutes before asking here ;( 20:43:07 <aleth> That's one of the things I wanted to add there... 20:43:10 <nhnt11> :( * 20:43:19 <nhnt11> Oh it's not in there. I thought I missed it. 20:43:33 <aleth> nhnt11: It's not there, it was just on my todo list ;) 20:44:05 <qlum> Just do it now, you know you will forget otherwise. 20:44:18 * nhnt11 nods his head vigorously 20:44:30 <flo-retina> qlum: unfortunately the faq isn't as easy to edit as we would like 20:44:37 <flo-retina> (in large part because it's localized) 20:45:09 <qlum> well most people would still read the English version so that could be a start 20:45:33 <nhnt11> Oh no, the 32 bit libs are 277MB 20:45:45 <nhnt11> flo-retina: FYI, it's ia32-libs with a hyphen 20:45:54 <flo-retina> ok 20:46:04 <flo-retina> that was purely from what I could remember 20:46:08 <flo-retina> I'm on a Mac right now 20:46:14 <aleth> Distro-specific anyway. 20:46:22 <nhnt11> Yeah I know, thought I'd mention ;) 20:46:28 <aleth> nhnt11: thanks 20:47:01 <nhnt11> Linux seems extremely familiar and very alien at the same time :S 20:47:02 * aleth hopes most people who don't know how to find the right package will be on ubuntu... 20:47:36 <qlum> well if you know what you need to look for google is your friend or duckduckgo if you still have the default search engine on Mint 20:47:38 <nhnt11> aleth: Googling "32 bit libs <name of distro>" should help 20:48:00 <aleth> qlum: linux mint is also debian underneath 20:48:13 <qlum> no i mean duckduckgo instead of google 20:48:26 <qlum> and its even ubuntu underneath if you are not on the debian edition 20:48:44 <qlum> for some things that does make a difference 20:48:54 <aleth> nhnt11: I just meant we can't actually provide command-line instructions for all distros 20:48:57 <flo-retina> they make it so complicated :( 20:49:28 <aleth> Yes :( 20:50:22 <qlum> as far as I remembered mint came with the libraries by default 20:50:38 * nhnt11 is really unsure of whether to keep using linux or go back to hackintosh 20:50:58 <qlum> stay linux 20:51:06 <qlum> if you are not a gamer and need windows 20:51:31 <nhnt11> No, I just wiped my Windows installation in order to get Ubuntu 20:51:45 <nhnt11> Haven't booted Windows in ages. 20:51:48 * nhnt11 nearly wiped his hackintosh partition before realizing that Windows was just sitting there :O 20:52:02 <flo-retina> to be fair, there are also some things that are way easier on linux :) 20:52:04 <qlum> I only tried osx once and I found it very annoying 20:52:14 <qlum> every time I tried a standard key combo it didn't work 20:52:23 <nhnt11> qlum: I fixed that by remapping the keys 20:52:39 <qlum> I also never really saw a benefit in using it 20:52:45 <nhnt11> qlum: If you mean alt+F4, I prefer ctrl+Q/cmd+Q any day. 20:53:02 <qlum> oh I meant basic copying behavior 20:53:06 <qlum> file management 20:53:06 <nhnt11> I like it because it's ultra convenient for simple things like apps, and has all the power of unix at the same time 20:53:20 <nhnt11> What's wrong with file management? :S 20:53:28 <qlum> I can't remember was a while ago 20:53:41 <flo-retina> I suspect individual OS preferences are as off topic as car pictures ;) 20:54:07 <qlum> not as of topic as long as cars don't come packed with instantbird 20:54:41 <nhnt11> You sound like going off-topic is a crime ;) 20:54:48 <flo-retina> nhnt11: everything is wrong with file management. On all OSes I've ever tried. The basic problem is that "file" and "folders" are machine concepts that shouldn't be imposed on users when they aren't relevant ;) 20:54:50 <Mook_as> paint the car instanbird-brown! :D 20:55:29 <qlum> I never found that an issue 20:55:31 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I've never found files and folders inconvenient 20:55:43 <qlum> What I did find an issue is that a lot of them think of a magical user folder 20:55:51 <qlum> that somehow sits on top of every thing 20:55:56 <nhnt11> I find it far far easier to keep my filesystem organized than the desk in my room 20:55:57 <aleth> Mook_as: I think I'd prefer the website to go AMI-green ;) 20:55:58 <qlum> outside the default file tree 20:56:11 <aleth> (and it's not even my car ;) ) 20:56:23 <nhnt11> qlum: Who is "a lot of them" 20:56:27 <nhnt11> users or OSes? 20:56:49 <qlum> OSes more specifically file managers 20:57:01 <qlum> a lot of the linux ones also believe in those magic folders 20:57:06 <flo-retina> Mook_as: was http://queze.net/goinfre/slides-moz-camp2011/#6.0 good enough to make it on-topic? :) 21:01:10 <flo-retina> I just looked at these slides again and like them. Too bad there were only 15 people or so in the room :-/ 21:04:10 <aleth> Yup, looks like a great talk 21:04:50 <aleth> Maybe you'll have another opportunity for a version of it sometime... 21:06:48 <flo-retina> maybe someone else will do it? :) 21:07:16 <flo-retina> it's difficult to talk about webrtc stuff, and then Instantbird during the same FOSDEM ;) 21:08:53 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Nice presentation 21:09:37 <flo-retina> thanks 21:14:27 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:21:37 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 21:53:53 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 21:54:01 <-- dionisos has quit (Ping timeout) 21:59:33 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 22:07:56 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 22:08:42 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 22:08:49 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 22:14:27 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 22:14:32 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: EionRobb) 22:14:41 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 22:36:11 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 22:40:18 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 22:47:18 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 22:51:38 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:55:02 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:56:04 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:08:48 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:09:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:12:19 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:23:57 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 23:29:31 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 23:32:09 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:55:36 <-- coddler has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com)