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00:00:00 <Mook_as> (sure, we can stop spamming the other instantbird folks :p ) 00:04:35 <instant-buildbot> build #817 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/817 00:29:28 <clokep> Interesting, Twitter will begin sending a language flag with tweets: https://dev.twitter.com/blog/introducing-new-metadata-for-tweets 00:56:17 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:12:19 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 01:18:08 <instant-buildbot> build #821 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/821 01:22:21 <clokep> flo-retina: I can't reproduce your errors. :-/ 02:28:31 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 02:31:25 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 02:40:56 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:43:25 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 02:47:15 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:47:24 <instant-buildbot> build #913 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/913 03:52:01 <instant-buildbot> build #822 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/822 04:14:50 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:18:37 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 04:18:57 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 04:18:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 05:20:08 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 05:20:50 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 05:20:50 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 05:24:41 <instant-buildbot> build #818 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/818 06:20:02 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:21:39 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:38:53 <instant-buildbot> build #914 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/914 07:18:43 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:06:43 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: PM: Preparing frontal lobe for mem sleep) 08:07:04 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:30:33 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:30:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:41:27 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:43:44 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:50:11 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 08:53:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:53:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 08:55:46 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 08:55:50 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 08:58:45 <aleth> "RT @ttaubert: It's Firefox. Not FireFox. Please." :P 09:00:13 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:15:29 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 09:15:32 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:17:25 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:17:31 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:18:51 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:18:51 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 09:51:28 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 09:58:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:58:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:03:32 <Mic> aleth: if you don't have a Twitter account I could reply and say we have the same problem with Instantbird. I'd count that as advertisement for us ;) http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130327#m37 10:03:53 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:03:53 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:04:16 <aleth> Mic: https://twitter.com/paulrouget/status/316678453925642243 10:04:27 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 10:06:28 <Mic> What do you mean? 10:07:28 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 10:07:51 <aleth> I just gave the link to the tweet so you can reply if you like... 10:09:37 --> Optimizer1 has joined #instantbird 10:09:59 <Mic> Ah, thanks! :) 10:10:24 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 10:11:05 <Mic> I had checked his feed already, so I didn't notice that you had only posted a fake reply in the logs and not a link :) 10:29:07 <clokep> Good morning. :) 10:32:46 <Mic> Hi clokep! 10:33:48 --> adev has joined #instantbird 10:35:06 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:35:58 * clokep thought he had a few r?s waiting for him. 10:36:07 <clokep> And was going to apologize...but apparently I don't. :) 10:36:18 <flo-retina> if you miss that, you can probably steal a few of mine ;) 10:36:36 <clokep> I just looked through yours...nothing jumped out as easy to review. ;) 10:36:48 <clokep> (Unless I can r+ my own. :P) 10:37:42 <flo-retina> clokep: that's why it's queued ;) 10:42:28 <clokep> Yeah, yeah.... 10:52:31 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 10:55:42 <clokep> Hey Mic, did you ever get to play Ticket to Ride? 10:57:03 <Mic> clokep: no, not yet but I found out that one of my friends has it! 10:58:02 <clokep> Mic: Awesome, let me know what you think if you play! 10:58:13 <Mic> Sure :) 11:01:05 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:12:46 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:14:25 * Optimizer1 is now known as Optimizer 11:28:54 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Input/output error) 11:37:04 --> adev has joined #instantbird 11:38:09 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:43:24 <Mic> aleth: the add-on for chat notification sounds is up for review. 11:43:36 <Mic> I'll do the other reviews in the afternoon. 11:43:45 <aleth> Mic: great, thanks 11:43:47 <flo-retina> Mic: a patch appeared in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789450 ;) 11:44:01 --> adev has joined #instantbird 11:44:48 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:46:38 <Mic> Wasn't "prpl-init" the wrong notification as you said? :( 11:47:13 <flo-retina> and calling getUIConversations() as a way to know if the core has been initialized is debatable too ;) 11:47:36 <flo-retina> Mic: I just wanted to point out that he was indeed working on a patch :) 11:48:39 <Mic> Yes, apparently ;) 11:53:17 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:53:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:53:38 <clokep_work> Ah seems like we're almost at a new phase of GSoC. :) 12:00:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Under https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13#Application_Advice it says "Apply on [the GSoC site]" and that's a broken link...although maybe it'll work once they decide on organizations? 12:22:03 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:30:05 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2301 on bug 1732. 12:30:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB 12:36:40 <clokep_work> Let me know if that's not clear aleth. 12:37:42 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 12:47:38 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2301 on bug 1732. 12:47:39 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2302 on bug 1732. 12:47:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB 12:50:03 <clokep_work> aleth: What parts of that are from chat/? 12:50:10 <clokep_work> Just logger.properties / logger.js? 12:51:43 <aleth> clokep_work: You mean what parts affect chat/ ? 12:52:15 <aleth> Yes, that's all. 12:52:32 <aleth> And convbrowser.xml 12:54:04 <aleth> Some of the viewlog.js improvements could easily be ported back to TB, but that would have to be done by hand. 12:54:27 <flo-retina> clokep_work: right, it will likely work once the organizations are announced (or if not we'll fix it!) 12:54:55 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I assume this link is just from last year's patch on which gerv did a s/2012/2013/ to create the new page 12:56:55 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I assume. 12:57:05 <clokep_work> aleth: OK. :) Aren't some of the improvements about text logs anyway? So things we don't care about. 12:57:45 <aleth> clokep_work: see https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732#c1 12:57:48 <instantbot> Bug 1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB 12:58:03 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 12:59:47 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Input/output error) 13:05:26 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 13:08:39 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Input/output error) 13:10:17 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks. sorry for not re-reading. :-[ 13:11:26 <aleth> clokep_work: np, I was just too lazy to type the list again ;) 13:12:33 <aleth> It's quite possible that for TB it was wanted that all the old logs older than 2 weeks appear in one group, idk. 13:14:06 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 13:14:26 <clokep_work> I agree that that seems inconvenient... 13:14:56 <aleth> Yup, I was like "not having that!" ;) 13:20:51 <Mic> aleth: drive-by comment: it could make sense to define Cu (Cc/Ci) in viewlog.js. 13:21:02 <Mic> At least Cu should be used a few times... 13:25:01 <clokep_work> I wonder if someone should just go through and do that everywhere... :-/ 13:25:58 <aleth> Mic: good idea 13:28:14 <Mic> clokep_work: I've a partial patch for this. 13:30:55 <clokep_work> Mic: Well r = me if you want approval. It can be in chunks / sub folders / whatever. 13:31:01 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:31:34 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2302 on bug 1732. 13:31:35 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2303 on bug 1732. 13:31:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB 13:39:00 <Mic> Twitter's web interface marks the part of the text in red that is behind the 140th character. Not a bad idea! 13:39:43 <clokep_work> aleth: "const Cu = Components.utils;" but you use Cc/Ci in the file...are those defined someplace else? :-S 13:39:53 <aleth> clokep_work: Yes 13:40:35 <clokep_work> utilities.js? 13:40:53 <aleth> Yes, via viewlog.xul 13:41:21 <Mic> I don't think we'd use these names for anything else than actually Components.* 13:41:50 * aleth thinks it would be nice to get rid of utilities.js somehow 13:41:51 <Mic> Shouldn't we use var instead of const and don't care if it's defined already? 13:41:53 <clokep_work> I just find it confusing that they're sharing a scope. ;) 13:42:31 <clokep_work> What part of iteratorUtils is used btw? I don't see any of the exported symbols used anywhere else. 13:43:38 <aleth> Hmm, let me check. mconley's code used it, but I may have removed all the calls one way or another 13:44:36 <aleth> clokep_work: fixIterator is used. 13:47:30 <clokep_work> Uhhh...my firefox find bar isn't find thatunless I go to the raw unified. :-S 14:00:28 --> gerv has joined #instantbird 14:00:40 <gerv> Hi. Can someone help me debug an instantbird problem? 14:00:52 <gerv> I just need 10 minutes of your time to send me some PMs. 14:01:03 <gerv> I have a problem that receiving a PM takes down my entire desktop :-| 14:01:11 <gerv> I want to try and work out the circumstances in which this is true. 14:01:16 <aleth> gerv: no problem, what do you need? 14:01:18 <gerv> (So if I stop talking to you, we've found one :-) 14:01:48 <aleth> Btw, are you on the latest nightly or on 1.3 ? 14:03:32 --> gerv1 has joined #instantbird 14:03:35 <aleth> Oh dear, looks like it did happen :-/ 14:03:35 <-- gerv has quit (No route to host) 14:03:38 <gerv1> Bug reproduced :-) 14:03:43 <gerv1> OK. 14:03:48 * gerv1 configures a bit 14:04:03 <aleth> That's a nasty bug. 14:09:31 <clokep_work> Ah, yeah, I saw your email gerv...didn't have any ideas besides what florian suggested. :( 14:22:43 <flo-retina> aleth: "14:41:50 * aleth thinks it would be nice to get rid of utilities.js somehow" oh yes! :) 14:25:06 <clokep_work> I think we even have a bug about that. ;) 14:25:56 <flo-retina> if I promise a fast review, is that a good enough motivation for someone to start fixing it? 14:26:11 <flo-retina> probably not as I assume any other reviewer could review that patch :-S 14:31:47 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 14:32:46 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: PM: Preparing frontal lobe for mem sleep) 14:33:48 <flo-retina> aleth: how difficult would it be to replace that fixIterator call with 3 lines of code to avoid including iteratorUtils? 14:35:10 <aleth> flo-retina: I don't know. I was under the impression iteratorUtils was going to be in toolkit soon anyway though? 14:35:22 <flo-retina> haha :) 14:35:34 <flo-retina> yeah, "soon" almost 2 years ago :) 14:35:41 <aleth> alright :D 14:36:17 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:36:18 <aleth> I don't mind changing that if you prefer, the call there was inherited from TB. 14:36:34 <flo-retina> if it's easy, I would prefer removing it 14:36:43 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 14:37:23 <flo-retina> that path is really strange: a/content/instantbird/jsTreeView.js 14:37:40 <flo-retina> matches neither the hg source tree, nor what I would expect in the omni.ja file 14:37:44 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:38:16 <aleth> uh yeah, that's missing something. 14:38:45 <clokep_work> aleth likes to keep us guessing about where his files really are. ;) 14:39:33 <flo-retina> clokep_work: wasn't he playing with hg recently? 14:39:41 <aleth> In omni.jar it would be chrome/instantbird/content/instantbird/jsTreeView.js 14:39:43 <aleth> not me... 14:39:52 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I wonder if at some point we could just r- all the patches that don't apply because of broken paths :-P 14:40:47 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 14:41:46 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:44:05 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 14:44:33 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:45:02 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:47:25 <clokep_work> :P I already have a macro that fixes them so...Ill still review them. 14:48:02 <flo-retina> all of them? 14:48:22 <clokep_work> Most of them. 14:48:26 <clokep_work> I've added to it over time... 14:48:29 <clokep_work> Oh. 14:48:34 <flo-retina> when it's just an IRC or just a completion patch, I tend to cd into the right directory, and apply with -p2 (irc) or -p5 (completion) instead of -p1 14:48:35 <clokep_work> All the patches? Probably not. ;) 15:07:42 <-- sabret00the has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:14:33 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1910 filed by gerv@gerv.net. 15:14:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1910 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IB notifications crash my entire desktop 15:19:01 <clokep_work> gerv1: Do you use Thunderbird/Firefox with notifications at all? It'd be interesting if it's happening there too. 15:21:44 * flo-retina wonders if aleth would have any idea of what could be suspected in view-source:https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=2304 15:25:45 <clokep_work> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/164174 is what aptitude says TB depends on in Ubuntu. 15:26:15 <flo-retina> there's xserver-xorg-core in that list 15:26:52 <flo-retina> I meant the list of updated packages attached to the bug, not your pastebin 15:27:41 <clokep_work> Yup. 15:29:58 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 15:31:40 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2303 on bug 1732. 15:31:41 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2305 on bug 1732. 15:31:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB 15:34:45 <aleth> flo-retina, clokep_work: I would have thought such a notification bug on ubuntu would have been previously reported for TB or FF. At least I don't see what would be IB specific about this. 15:38:32 <clokep_work> I can test on my ubuntu box when I get home. 15:38:39 <aleth> There's a lot of updates in that list, nothing immediately jumps out 15:39:11 <aleth> I was looking on BMO earlier for anything related that might have been fixed but couldn't find anything. 15:41:05 <aleth> 12.04 is a LTS so it's not going to be anything utterly cutting edge. 16:15:03 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 16:48:32 <clokep_work> Ah, I think I'm on 12.10 not 12.04... 16:50:55 <aleth> clokep_work: Theoretically that should mean you see /more/ problems, not less ;) 16:51:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Yeah...how would I check that? 16:53:25 <aleth> clokep_work: Maybe you will be "lucky" and can reproduce, then compare the versions of the packages that match with ger v's list. 16:57:08 <aleth> It would also be interesting to find out if ger v can reproduce with the nightly (and its newer moz version) 16:57:08 <gerv1> clokep_work: I don't see FF or TB notifications, no. 16:57:13 <gerv1> So I may have turned them off... 16:57:27 <gerv1> I would find them too distracting full time in TB. 16:57:35 <gerv1> But I can turn them on temporarily and see what happens. 16:59:23 <clokep_work> gerv1: Could be interesting to turn it on for a few minutes and see if that crashes it, yeah. (At least we'd know if it's an Instantbird issue or a Gecko issue) 16:59:33 <clokep_work> I doubt your Tb/Fx is the same Gecko version though. :) 16:59:35 <gerv1> Yes, I just turned them on. 16:59:46 <aleth> gerv1: Which TB version are you on? 17:00:13 <gerv1> 21.0a2 Earlybird. 17:01:03 <aleth> Our current nightlies are on moz19, so that's as close as we'll get. 17:04:11 <gerv1> I think it's not IB; I was using 1.2 fine for ages before this started happening recently, and upgrading to 1.3 didn't help. 17:06:35 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:08:35 <gerv1> clokep_work: No problem with TB notifications, but the TB ones appear as standard OS notifications, and the IB ones appear as slide-up toasters in the bottom right. 17:08:39 <gerv1> So it's not the same mechanism. 17:08:41 * gerv1 is now known as gerv 17:09:07 <aleth> gerv: For me (using KDE) the notifications on IB match those in FF 17:10:18 <aleth> I wonder whether the window manager makes any difference 17:11:35 <aleth> (i.e. whether the slide-up toasters are a fallback) 17:11:51 <aleth> gerv: Would you mind trying to reproduce with an IB nightly if/when you have a moment? 17:12:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:12:58 * clokep_work switches to #maildev... 17:13:53 <aleth> clokep_work: good question. I thought that hadn't landed yet 17:14:09 <clokep_work> aleth: It landed on Nightly at least. Luckily the Windows ones haven't changed much. 17:30:03 <gerv> aleth: Where do I find an IB nightly? 17:30:15 <aleth> gerv: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ 17:30:16 <clokep_work> nightly.instantbird.im 17:32:28 <gerv> aleth: OK, I'm about to kill IB and come back. 17:32:33 <gerv> Then you can PM me again ;-) 17:32:48 <aleth> gerv: OK :) 17:34:10 <-- gerv has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:34:32 --> gerv has joined #instantbird 17:34:39 <gerv> aleth: you there? 17:34:49 <aleth> gerv: ping 17:34:52 <gerv> OK. PM me in 10, 9, 8, ... 17:35:02 <aleth> gerv: another ping 17:35:12 <gerv> OK, same toaster but no crash. 17:35:18 <gerv> Try two in quick succession. 17:35:33 <aleth> gerv: So maybe something got fixed in moz19, if we are lucky 17:35:34 <aleth> gerv: a 17:35:40 <aleth> gerv: a 17:35:43 <gerv> That now seems to be working... 17:35:55 <aleth> :) 17:35:55 <clokep_work> Moz 17, 18 or 19, I think. 17:36:00 <clokep_work> I think 1.3 was on Moz 16. 17:36:12 <aleth> clokep_work: only 16? time flies... 17:40:35 <clokep_work> aleth: Start doing the upgrades and you'll see how often it happens. ;) 17:40:47 <aleth> clokep_work: I just thought it was 17 :P 17:41:28 <aleth> We'll have to release when twitter finally obsoletes their old API anyway ;) 17:41:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Find all the Moz bugs on https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&target_milestone=1.4 :P 17:41:47 <clokep_work> aleth: We upgraded to 17, 18 and 19 in this nightly cycle. 17:42:01 <aleth> clokep_work: I didn't say you were wrong :P 17:42:39 <aleth> Just that even 17 seems a long time ago... 17:43:17 <clokep_work> aleth: I know. I'm thinking we'll release on Moz 20, but I hvaen't told florian that yet. 17:43:50 <aleth> ft. SIPE! (sssh) ;) 17:46:18 <gerv> aleth: So do we want to investigate this more? 17:46:21 <gerv> Or just ignore it? 17:47:13 <aleth> gerv: I don't know, it would be nice to know what change fixed it, assuming it is fixed. 17:47:22 <aleth> Definitely let us know if it happens again. 17:47:52 <aleth> sorry, gtg 17:47:56 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 17:51:19 <flo-retina> gerv: are you on a 64 bit OS? 17:51:29 <gerv> Nope. 17:51:30 <-- MMN-o has quit (Ping timeout) 17:51:36 <flo-retina> Ib should use system notifications if Tb can use them :-S. 17:51:40 <gerv> gerv@mink:~$ uname -a 17:51:40 <gerv> Linux mink 3.2.0-39-generic-pae #62-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 27 22:25:11 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux 17:51:41 <gerv> gerv@mink:~$ 17:52:03 <gerv> Time for dinner. 17:52:43 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:57:23 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:58:51 <clokep_work> FYI It's been 3.5 months since our last release. 17:59:51 <clokep_work> We should probably do a blog post at some point too...bleh. :( 18:06:25 --> MMN-o has joined #instantbird 18:28:59 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 18:35:44 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 18:35:44 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 18:43:59 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 18:44:40 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 18:44:40 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 18:45:22 <flo-retina> is there anyway to do something useful with: 18:45:23 <flo-retina> Error: Received unexpected ERROR response: 18:45:23 <flo-retina> Closing Link: flo-retina1[ks368640.kimsufi.com] (Too many connections from your IP) 18:45:24 <flo-retina> Source File: resource:///modules/ircBase.jsm Line: 169 18:45:25 <flo-retina> ? 18:45:46 <flo-retina> we currently just display "Connection closed by server" or something similarly useless in the account manager 19:03:40 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 19:04:54 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 19:21:45 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 19:38:47 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 19:39:42 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:39:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:41:21 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:46:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Maybe, is that a message from the server or an actual numeric? 19:46:42 <flo-retina> it's an ERROR sent by the server 19:47:04 <clokep_work> Ah. 19:47:13 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:47:15 <clokep_work> I mean...theoretically you're supposed to show the string attached to that to the user. 19:47:20 <clokep_work> But we don't do that because that's ridiculous. 19:47:30 <clokep_work> We could try parsing it, I guess. But that's really server specific. 19:47:42 <flo-retina> I think moznet more or less always sends "ERROR Closing Link: <nick>[<your hostname>] (<reason>)" but I'm not sure 19:48:10 <clokep_work> Yeah, some of that is standard, I think. 19:48:10 <flo-retina> <reason> is the only part that matters of course 19:48:33 <clokep_work> I lied. :) The whole message is non-standard. 19:50:32 <Kaishi> is there any way to ignore the expired status of an SSL cert for connection to an IRC server using SSL? 19:50:56 <Kaishi> the mods are either incapable or otherwise inept and the cert is going on 6 months out of date. 19:51:01 <Kaishi> but I'm tired of not having SSL 19:51:34 <clokep_work> Kaishi: Importing the certificate and marking it as trusted or whatever should work fine. 19:51:41 <clokep_work> We're looking to make it easier 19:52:07 <Kaishi> I can't import it, I don't think 19:57:40 <clokep_work> Kaishi: Because you don't have the cert or a different reason? 19:58:00 <Kaishi> I don't have the cert to import 19:58:06 <Kaishi> I'd need to get a copy of the .cer which I don't have 19:58:52 <clokep_work> There's a patch in bug 1100. ;) 19:58:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 19:59:11 <Kaishi> gotcha. I mean, I'm really mad at the ops for not handling it. 19:59:20 <Kaishi> but, they either won't or can't for some reason 19:59:31 <Kaishi> I've been reporting it to them for many months 20:00:18 <flo-retina> can't you just import the cert by typing https://<servername>:6697 somewhere in the dialog and letting it download the cert from the server? 20:00:47 <Kaishi> trying that now 20:00:52 <Kaishi> I think it is firewalled off 20:01:01 <Kaishi> I don't think it responds to HTTPS 20:01:07 <flo-retina> it's not HTTPS, it's SSL 20:01:24 <Kaishi> no I understand but, it just doesn't load anything 20:01:39 <flo-retina> Kaishi: you are not trying to load this in your browser, are you? 20:01:55 <Kaishi> I just tried that in a browser >_> 20:02:10 <Kaishi> where else could I do it? 20:02:27 <flo-retina> what I was suggesting was in the preference dialog: Advanced -> Encryption -> View Certificates -> Servers -> Add Exception⦠20:03:37 <Kaishi> got it! 20:03:40 <Kaishi> let's see if that works. 20:05:17 <Kaishi> yup 20:05:25 <Kaishi> works, that's exactly what I needed to do 20:25:33 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:10:39 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21:14:57 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:17:23 <Mic> clokep_work: do you know if an add-on that is licensed with MPL2.0 include a library that is Apache 2.0 licensed? 21:18:03 <Mic> *can include 21:18:51 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:20:07 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21:23:09 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:24:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:25:07 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 22:00:13 --> leandro has joined #instantbird 22:00:21 <leandro> good night 22:00:47 <leandro> Mic: all the icons of EOL are gpl'ed 22:01:16 <leandro> there are a few creative-commons, i think 22:04:33 <Mic> leandro: hi 22:04:54 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:06:50 <Mic> You chose MPL as license for your extensions. Unfortunately that's not compatible with the GPL :( I think choosing GPL3 should be safe here. 22:07:40 <leandro> hmmm 22:07:53 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 22:08:05 <leandro> i will dig into the icons license 22:08:20 <leandro> im not sure about this right now 22:08:27 <Mic> OK 22:08:29 <Mic> Licenses suck, and the GPL even more so ;) 22:08:43 <leandro> hehe well, thats a large topic 22:09:29 <leandro> anyway, in case of need, can i change the license "on-the-fly" for the extension or must i re-upload it? 22:11:31 <flo-retina> I think you can change it on the website 22:12:19 <leandro> nice 22:14:22 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 22:17:00 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:17:33 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 22:29:26 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:29:26 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:30:14 <clokep> Mic: We're going to include some Apache 2.0 code soon, does that answer your question? ;) 22:30:41 <clokep> Mic: Extensions don't need to be GPL compatible. 22:30:57 <clokep> (At least in my mind they don't.) 22:31:05 <clokep> If a user uses it with GPL code they're break GPL, not the author. 22:31:28 <flo-retina> clokep: My understanding of what M ic said is that the add-on contains MPL code and GPL icons. 22:32:10 <clokep> Ah. 22:32:11 <flo-retina> clokep: I'm not even sure a user would violate the GPL in that case; as the license is mostly about the right to (re)distribute, not to use. 22:32:26 <clokep> That probably depends on who you ask. ;) 22:32:39 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе)) 22:32:43 <flo-retina> I'm not planning on asking that soon :-P 22:40:02 <Mic> flo-retina: it was an emoticon theme, it didn't even include code. It was licensed with MPL on AIO while leandr o said that the icons were GPL'd. 22:44:12 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 22:45:18 <-- leandro has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0) 23:05:50 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 23:17:34 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 23:18:25 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 23:21:41 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 23:27:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 23:47:43 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird