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00:49:15 --> jb has joined #instantbird 00:49:46 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 00:50:55 --> jb has joined #instantbird 00:57:16 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 00:57:21 --> jb has joined #instantbird 00:57:30 <clokep> I think the calculate of Twitter links stuff needs an idl change. :-/ 01:01:57 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 01:07:00 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:07:54 --> jb has joined #instantbird 01:36:00 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 01:41:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 02:29:59 <dew> did instantbird hit the twitter api limit yet? 02:33:11 <clokep> dew: What? 02:33:14 <clokep> Why? 02:33:25 <dew> I'm just curious that's all 02:33:35 <clokep> No. 02:34:06 <dew> Okay good. I've been recruiting people as much as I can for us 02:36:56 <clokep> Oh OK, you were making me nervous . :P 02:37:48 <dew> what would we do if we hit the limit? 02:37:54 <dew> do we have to buy something from twitter? 02:37:57 <EionRobb> panic! 02:41:12 <clokep> dew: No, there's lots of different limits in place, by the way. 02:41:22 <clokep> There's per user limits, per app limits, etc. 02:41:34 <clokep> Per app limits I think you can ask to be raised. 02:41:40 <EionRobb> per-panic limits? 02:41:40 <clokep> But I think we're pretty ar from those. 02:42:12 <clokep> Probably. :p 02:42:21 <dew> and if they don't we will protest 02:42:34 <clokep> Haha. 02:42:47 <clokep> If they don't you can do funny things...like create a server that round robins a bunch of API keys. ;) 02:43:45 <clokep> Anyway, way past my bed time. :) 02:43:46 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:50:10 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 03:26:41 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:52:03 <instant-buildbot> build #815 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/815 04:15:45 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 04:19:39 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 04:27:41 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 04:43:23 <instant-buildbot> build #811 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/811 04:48:59 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 04:57:35 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 05:11:00 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 05:25:59 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:31:57 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 05:32:22 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:32:46 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:34:33 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:09:54 <instant-buildbot> build #907 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/907 06:20:06 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 06:26:27 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 06:49:05 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 06:49:46 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 08:02:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:04:32 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:26:53 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:02:28 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:04:58 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:06:34 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 09:06:59 --> w has joined #instantbird 09:13:44 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 09:29:30 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: PM: Preparing frontal lobe for mem sleep) 09:30:06 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:36:53 <flo-retina> bah, shownick doesn't work for nicks containing ` :( 09:40:45 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:41:47 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 09:49:09 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 09:53:16 <-- w has quit (Ping timeout) 10:03:02 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:04:29 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 10:04:35 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:04:41 --> w has joined #instantbird 10:08:30 <-- jb1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:09:13 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:10:45 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:11:10 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:11:10 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:12:33 <flo-retina> clokep: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/130320#m29 that's a sure way to get all the keys blocked, isn't it? ;) 10:19:24 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:19:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:32:39 <clokep> flo-retina: "For the twitter case, I think the difficult part is to implement the twitter URL detection algorithm..." I'm debating just using Twitter's provided code. ;) 10:33:09 <flo-retina> have they released a JS version? 10:33:26 <flo-retina> we already discussed that 2 or 3 times, but I keep forgetting the answer :-S 10:33:56 <clokep> Yes. 10:34:05 <clokep> It's Apache licensed. 10:36:16 <clokep> We could either take their code and rip it apart to fit into what we have...or we can literally use their code as a library. 10:36:53 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:56:16 <-- w has quit (Client exited) 10:59:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:00:32 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:57:59 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 12:16:16 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:16:16 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 12:19:47 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 12:22:58 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:22:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:25:17 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:25:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:38:59 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 12:39:03 <aleth> clokep_work: If I don't misremember, the twitter JS code is provided as a library contained in a single JS file 12:39:50 <aleth> If possible it's probably easier to use the whole thing, in case they update it. 12:47:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Yeah, that's what I meant by what I said earlier. ;) 13:26:45 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 13:29:50 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: ｡â â¿ â｡) 13:32:55 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:42:32 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:44:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:18:06 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 14:49:00 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:05:13 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:05:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:15:07 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:18:54 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:23:38 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:27:07 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:32:00 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 15:56:20 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 15:58:03 --> neetz has joined #instantbird 15:58:24 <neetz> hey 15:58:29 <neetz> someone's there ? 15:59:13 <-- neetz has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15:59:17 --> neetz has joined #instantbird 16:01:04 <-- neetz has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC) 16:03:15 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:03:32 --> Even has joined #instantbird 16:03:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 16:03:48 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:10:47 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird 16:11:25 <clokep_wp8> Neetz: What's up? 16:11:49 <clokep_wp8> Bah he left? 16:12:35 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:12:49 <aleth> Looks like... his patience only lasted 1min 16:13:17 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 16:13:30 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:13:31 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:15:38 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 16:18:34 --> Even has joined #instantbird 16:18:34 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 16:19:51 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:42:24 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:55:43 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 16:58:34 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:58:34 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:05:10 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 17:06:22 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 17:07:16 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 17:07:16 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 17:08:37 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 17:08:37 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:26:47 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 17:29:56 <flo-retina> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/03/babble-google-may-be-priming-unified-chat-service-for-google-io/ 17:32:28 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: ｡â â¿ â｡) 17:34:52 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 17:38:11 <clokep_work> Bleh. :( 17:38:53 <flo-retina> is that to Mossop's reply, or to the link I pasted? 17:40:32 <clokep_work> I didn't read his reply. 17:43:44 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 17:48:41 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:27 <clokep_work> I'll reply to him. 18:16:31 <dew> what's wrong clokep_work? 18:16:48 <dew> would a unified chat service be using XMPP? 18:21:15 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:21:51 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 18:22:12 <clokep_work> dew: THat's an important question which we can't open. ;) 18:22:28 <dew> you're under NDA eh? 18:23:19 <clokep_work> dew: What? 18:23:24 <clokep_work> We don't have any information. 18:23:29 <clokep_work> Sorry, that should say "we can't answer". 18:23:47 <dew> ah I thought you were trying to drop me an wink wink nudge nudge type thing 18:25:08 <clokep_work> Nope. 18:25:13 <clokep_work> I know nothing. 18:29:00 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:31:44 <clokep_work> dew: They've also made it hard to federate to GTalk now... 18:32:11 <dew> I'm not sure what you mean 18:37:05 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 18:37:39 <clokep_work> dew: On XMPP you can talk to people on different XMPP "networks" (e.g. my jabber.org accoutn can talk to my GTalk account). GTalk has started to stop some of that, it seems. 18:38:34 <dew> oh :/ 18:38:48 <dew> Google hasn't been too open lately; it seems like they've been closing off a bit 18:39:37 <dew> Also I find this interesting: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/03/guerilla-researcher-created-epic-botnet-to-scan-billions-of-ip-addresses/ 18:40:48 <clokep_work> Google hasn't really ever been really open. ;) 18:42:33 <dew> yeah thus why I like Mozilla better :) 18:42:45 <dew> and I try to explain that to people everyday 18:45:17 <clokep_work> :) We like to think we're pretty open too. :P 18:47:51 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 18:47:51 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 18:48:19 <dew> Yeah you guys are 18:49:12 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/160139 19:05:35 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:13:56 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 19:14:41 <clokep_work> (Let me know if that sounds reasonable.) 19:16:43 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 19:24:34 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 19:37:10 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "During the build process only one file can actually be used (since they have the same name), it was chosen to use the one in mail/ not in chat/." doesn't make total sense 19:37:21 <flo-retina> especially what "it was chosen to use" mean 19:38:53 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't see how it isn't clear. :-/ 19:38:55 <flo-retina> "The http.jsm file exists in 2 different folders of the source tree; whichever folder is built last overwrites in <appdir>/module the http.jsm file that was copied there by the first one." Does this make sense? 19:39:03 <clokep_work> Isn't that what happened someone artbirarily chose to use the mail one? 19:39:20 <flo-retina> no, nobody ever decided that 19:39:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes, that's more detailed. 19:39:33 <clokep_work> Ah, I thought we have an ifdef that doesn't add taht if thunderbird? 19:39:47 <flo-retina> hmm 19:39:48 <flo-retina> possibly :) 19:39:58 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/Makefile.in#23 19:40:14 <flo-retina> ok, my bad, sorry 19:40:26 <flo-retina> I suspect removing that ifdef wouldn't change the result ;) 19:40:34 <flo-retina> would just make partial rebuilds more unpredictable 19:42:04 <clokep_work> Maybe the sentence still doesn't make sense though. 19:44:56 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:44:56 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:47:00 <flo-retina> it's just an email, not something thousands of people will read ;) 19:49:08 <clokep_work> True. :) 19:49:40 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 19:50:24 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 20:01:22 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:29:24 <Mic> clokep_work: can we be a bit more positive about our GSoC application, please? ;) 20:29:26 <Mic> http://i.imgur.com/muSuu4n.png 20:30:35 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:36:16 <clokep_work> Mic: :P 20:36:22 <Mic> Offtopic: I participated in a study today and I've got to say: CAVEs are awesome :) 20:36:26 <clokep_work> I noticed that the other day (that our links fail often in Twitter). 20:36:30 <clokep_work> CAVEs? 20:36:34 <clokep_work> You go spelunking? 20:36:47 <Mic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_automatic_virtual_environment 20:38:39 <Mic> The one I was in was maybe 16-20m^2 large and had projections on every wall/surface (the door was closed once you entered, so it was a separate room) 20:42:28 <Mic> After a training how to move in a labyrinth, the actual test was how one reacted when confined in a tunnel where a car crash had happened, while cars were burning. 20:42:53 <Mic> Very interesting :) 20:47:45 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:54:53 <clokep_work> Soudns fun. :) 21:02:59 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 21:18:18 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:25:32 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:40:20 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 22:03:59 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:19:59 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:19:59 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:28:07 <clokep> Hello! 22:31:17 <-- unghost has quit (Input/output error) 22:48:06 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:53:16 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 22:59:26 <clokep> Hey Mook_as if you get bored at some point, I wouldn't mind another pair of eyes over bug 1100. :) 22:59:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 23:00:33 <Mook_as> sure, f?me? 23:02:15 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested feedback from mook.moz+bugs.ins tantbird@gmail.com for attachment 2291 on bug 1100. 23:02:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 23:02:29 <clokep> f?you! :P 23:33:55 --> meh has joined #instantbird 23:55:38 <clokep> flo-retina: I have a feeling you're right, On Windows it's already pretty blue so the blue text isn't noticeable at all. 23:56:13 <flo-retina> blue is more noticeable than red here 23:56:24 <flo-retina> but it may be because half my tabs are red all the time :-] 23:57:16 <clokep> Also red/orange means attention on Windows. :) 23:57:30 <flo-retina> also, I'm got trained to ignore red tabs with the MUC icon, and look for red tabs with a status icon. That seems like a bug ;) 23:57:46 <flo-retina> is orange more attention or less attention than red? 23:58:28 <flo-retina> when I said "orange" I actually meant something less noticeable than the usual red 23:58:37 <flo-retina> so that could be the same red, but with only 50% saturation 23:58:40 <clokep> Right. I think that's the change I have in that patch to conversation.xml? 23:58:47 <clokep> Yeah, that would be "less" attention. 23:58:55 * flo-retina doesn't remember what's in the patch 23:59:08 * clokep hates bikeshedding. :( 23:59:39 * flo-retina too 23:59:48 <flo-retina> that's probably why we have avoided that bug for so long 23:59:53 <flo-retina> a bug about colors... ;)