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There should also be a new "instantbird" tab with an error message 14:13:12 <aleth> Not that that is the ideal UI either... 14:13:14 <flo-retina> oh yes there is 14:13:20 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 14:13:26 <flo-retina> it contains "15:10:05 - There is no channel: instantbird." 14:13:33 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 14:13:44 <flo-retina> that was just a system message so it didn't turn the tab read, and the tab didn't get my attention 14:14:14 <flo-retina> would likely have been much more visible it if opened at the right of the current tab instead of at the 9th position ;) 14:14:18 <aleth> Part of the problem is bug 837 14:14:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Give new tabs opened via IRC commands focus 14:17:25 <aleth> rosonline: another struggling user? ;) https://twitter.com/msc_campos/status/306767875602010112 14:18:38 <rosonline> Ok... I'll ask him about your "fight" 14:19:29 <aleth> Thanks :) 14:25:05 <rosonline> aleth: You're welcome 14:26:20 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 14:28:23 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:28:34 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 14:28:41 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: rosonline) 14:31:31 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 14:34:14 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 14:34:43 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:46:21 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:46:22 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:54:26 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:31:27 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 15:32:18 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 15:51:22 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 15:55:14 --> gerv has joined #instantbird 15:55:23 <gerv> How do I get instantbird to give me a channel list? 15:56:05 <gerv> /list does nothing. 15:57:59 <flo-retina> I think /list works but shows the list in the "server tab" (there's an adavanced account preference to enable that tab) 15:58:14 <flo-retina> the "Show messages from the server" checkbox 15:59:40 <gerv> I can't find that pref... 15:59:40 <gerv> how new is it? 16:00:00 <flo-retina> not very new 16:00:07 <gerv> Oh, I see - it's per-server. 16:00:11 <gerv> Got it. 16:00:11 <flo-retina> it's an account preference (click the "properties" button of the account) 16:00:23 <gerv> How do I get that window open? 16:00:27 <gerv> /list doesn't do it... 16:00:35 <gerv> Do I have to restart? 16:00:50 <flo-retina> I'm afraid one needs to disconnect the account and reconnect it 16:00:57 <gerv> OK. Back in a sec... 16:01:03 <-- gerv has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:01:13 --> gerv has joined #instantbird 16:01:55 <flo-retina> the list doesn't seem sorted :-/ 16:04:28 <flo-retina> aleth: how much work would it be to fetch that list when the user is starting to type /j[oin] or opening the Join Chat dialog to use it for completion purposes? 16:17:55 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 16:20:47 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:22:25 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 16:28:25 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:40:36 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:56:35 <gerv> flo-retina: It would be great if it could be sorted either alphabetically or (what I wanted) by number of participants. 16:57:24 <flo-retina> gerv: I agree. The way it's currently displayed is pretty useless (even if people manage to discover it!) 16:58:42 <flo-retina> did you need the list for your "Understanding Mozilla: Communications" short talk? 16:59:52 <flo-retina> I was wondering if there are use cases where showing the list is actually what the user wants. (In most case I would think that using the list for completion / suggestions with the most popular channels would be more useful than showing the list) 17:53:29 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:56:24 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:21:41 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 19:42:42 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:17:39 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:17:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:20:12 * Mic really needs to fix conversations on hold in Session Restore.. 20:52:20 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 20:59:41 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 21:02:04 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 21:02:32 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 21:02:38 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 21:14:34 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 21:14:35 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 21:19:27 <flo-retina> tonight after a few 50+ years old people I was discussing something with asked me what I work for and I replied that I work for Mozilla, the child who was with them said immediately "I installed Boot2Gecko on my phone yesterday!" 21:19:30 <flo-retina> I was quite surprised :) 21:20:15 <gerard-majax__> o_O 21:20:17 <gerard-majax__> which phone ? 21:20:28 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, that's quite a surprise though 21:20:43 <flo-retina> gerard-majax__: yeah, I was quite surprised! 21:21:03 <flo-retina> I didn't ask for his phone model 21:21:06 <gerard-majax__> :/ 21:21:09 <gerard-majax__> that's a shame ! 21:21:15 <gerard-majax__> considering the few models supported 21:21:29 <flo-retina> I tried to give him a Firefox badge but it turns out he had already been given some at the Braderie de Lille (likely by Benoît :)) 21:21:47 <gerard-majax__> haha 21:21:47 <flo-retina> and I told him to join the French Mozilla community on IRC in #frenchmoz 21:21:51 <gerard-majax__> where did you met him ? 21:22:35 <flo-retina> at the coworking space I usually work from in Lille 21:22:59 <flo-retina> there was a conference/debate this evening about the basic income idea, and his parent attended 21:23:25 <gerard-majax__> great 21:23:32 <gerard-majax__> there's a la cantine in lille ? 21:23:35 <gerard-majax__> I was not aware :) 21:23:45 <flo-retina> much better than la cantine :-P 21:23:53 <flo-retina> there are actually at least 2 coworking spaces in Lille 21:24:10 <flo-retina> I work from http://www.lacoroutine.org/ 21:24:34 <gerard-majax__> nice 21:24:48 <gerard-majax__> there's a la cantine that opened a couple of weeks ago 21:25:00 <gerard-majax__> we did the first event while it was not yet officially opened 21:25:06 <gerard-majax__> presenting mozilla and especially firefoxos :) 21:25:15 <flo-retina> gerard-majax__: in which city? 21:25:15 <gerard-majax__> 30 people expected, 70 attending 21:25:18 <gerard-majax__> tours 21:27:00 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 21:28:07 <flo-retina> gerard-majax__: there may be some potential for a mozilla & Firefox OS presentation here too 21:28:14 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:28:33 <flo-retina> there's at least one intern working here twice a week who's a Firefox enthusiast 21:29:11 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, well 21:29:25 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, if you're subscribed to the mozfr mailing list, dig into the archives :) 21:29:25 <flo-retina> and there's a handful of developers working on a free software project 21:29:30 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, and I have my slides on the wiki 21:29:34 <flo-retina> They work on http://imaginationforpeople.org/fr/ 21:29:39 <gerard-majax__> tristan and fabien posted theirs too 21:30:29 <flo-retina> gerard-majax__: I don't feel very confident talking about FxOS myself, I don't know much about it. My area of expertise these days is rather WebRTC ;). 21:33:04 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, lille is not that far :) 21:34:05 <flo-retina> gerard-majax__: it's less than one hour of train from Paris where the B2G team usually hides ;) 21:36:20 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, I know 21:36:30 <gerard-majax__> flo-retina, I'm commuting everyday from tours to paris :) 21:36:48 <gerard-majax__> and tours is roughly the same distance than lille from paris 21:37:01 <flo-retina> can't work from your coworking space? :( 21:41:34 <gerard-majax__> it's not mine 21:41:40 <gerard-majax__> it was not existing three years ago 21:41:54 <gerard-majax__> and I'm okay with the train :) 21:44:53 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 22:02:30 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 22:02:57 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 22:06:30 <-- harlock1 has left #instantbird (PONG :gravel.mozilla.org) 22:08:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:08:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:14:44 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 1883 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 22:14:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1883 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support XEP-0077 (In-Band Registration/Password Change) 22:22:35 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 22:23:13 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 22:26:15 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 22:26:52 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: PM: Preparing frontal lobe for mem sleep) 22:30:27 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 22:30:38 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 22:44:12 <flo-retina> Mic: any idea of how the UI could look? 23:07:54 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird 23:09:04 <clokep_wp8> I think list should mostly be used to autocomplete, but someone might want to browse too. 23:09:04 <clokep_wp8> That's not personally how i use irc.. 23:09:17 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:14:18 <flo-retina> clokep: I looked a bit at the server tab. We display the MOTD as a regular message (rather than a system one), and we merge all the lines to display it as a single message 23:14:42 <flo-retina> shouldn't we display the whole list of channel as a similar single message, and take the opportunity to sort it alphabetically? 23:23:56 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 23:26:21 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:35:34 <Mic> flo-retina: which UI? The one for the password change or account registration? Or both? 23:35:48 <flo-retina> both 23:35:52 <Mic> hehe 23:39:41 <Mic> I've no clear idea for the password change. 23:40:17 <Mic> The registration UI could be a special message (or even a new binding?) on newly created accounts: "An account with this name was not found on the server. Do you want to [create it now] or [edit the name of the account]." (<- the latter would be for the case that there's been a typo in the account name. 23:41:52 <flo-retina> that could work :) 23:41:55 <Mic> Even though it wouldn't be clear that it is possible to create account at the moment one clicks "New account" then. 23:42:11 <flo-retina> assuming the server doesn't reply the same thing if the password is wrong or if the account name doesn't exist 23:42:44 <Mic> Yes, we'd need to know if the password is wrong or the account is non-existent + that the server supports this feature. 23:44:56 <Mic> Any other comment on this? If not I'll c/p this to the bug and go to bed now :) 23:45:18 <flo-retina> going to bed is generally a good idea at almost 1am :) 23:49:18 <Mic> Good night! 23:49:25 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 23:49:41 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!)