#instantbird log on 02 25 2013

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03:39:52 <instant-buildbot> build #791 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/791
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05:39:02 <instant-buildbot> build #882 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/882
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11:24:22 <flo-retina> clokep: good morning :)
11:26:16 <clokep> Hello flo-retina.
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11:39:35 <Mic> hi
11:40:11 <aleth> hello all round :)
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12:54:43 <flo-retina> bah, we really need to fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844175 :(
12:54:48 <flo-retina> both on central and aurora
12:56:08 <aleth> :(
12:56:15 <aleth> Why is http.jsm forked?!
12:58:50 <aleth> Oh, I see.
12:59:55 <aleth> Bug 735219...
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13:09:30 <clokep_work> aleth: If you have some time to fix it, that would be great. :)
13:09:36 <clokep_work> And yes. I'm not very happy it's forked either.
13:23:16 <flo-retina> nobody's happy about it ;)
13:23:32 * clokep_work keeps whining about it.
13:23:32 <clokep_work> :P
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13:47:01 <flo-retina> http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=7
13:47:13 <flo-retina> pidgin best IRC client? seriously?
13:47:40 <flo-retina> I wonder if we have tried all the clients in that list
13:48:25 <aleth> It'll just be "best==what I use"
13:48:47 <flo-retina> yeah, best=="favorite when using linux" in this case
13:48:49 * aleth is surprised at chatzilla being so well known
13:49:07 <flo-retina> well, linux users aren't the average user ;)
13:49:28 <flo-retina> and it's possible chatzilla is very visible if you search "irc" in debian's package manager
13:49:40 <flo-retina> if it says "Mozilla's IRC client"...
13:49:52 <aleth> Right. And if it's not in the distro, it won't exist for most people...
13:50:22 <flo-retina> right
13:51:00 <aleth> But I'm also surprised pidgin tops that list.
13:52:12 <flo-retina> I'm not surprised it's at the top for "IM client" as it's installed by default (except on distros where it has recently changed to empathy)
13:52:17 <flo-retina> but for IRC :-S
13:52:35 <aleth> Even for IM clients, most distros will have empathy or Ksomething preinstalled
13:52:47 <aleth> But people are used to pidgin.
13:53:18 <flo-retina> http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=26 also surprises me
13:53:42 <aleth> github->git, these days, probably
13:54:24 <flo-retina> but do you know anybody who would say that CVS is the best revision control system in 2013?
13:54:45 <aleth> Huh, yeah, that's odd.
13:54:55 <flo-retina> and 0.8% for monotone... I thought pidgin was the largest project using it (and it's been dropped)
13:55:09 <aleth> I wonder who actually votes/reads Linux Journal ;)
13:55:49 <aleth> Maybe also corporate users still forced to use cvs...
13:56:14 <aleth> This is the first I've heard of bitlbee. Odd concept.
13:56:14 <flo-retina> good point too :)
13:56:42 <flo-retina> really?
13:57:14 <flo-retina> each time I hear someone telling me how great it is, I think it really sounds like something I wouldn't want to use
13:57:22 <flo-retina> I've never tried it though
13:57:31 <aleth> I've just not run across it before.
13:57:53 <aleth> Probably people who use irssi in some ultra-personally-scripted form and can then also use it for IM? ;)
13:58:48 <flo-retina> exactly :)
13:59:25 <aleth> Really they should run irssi within emacs of course :P
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14:17:29 <clokep_work> That sounds highly suspect that Pidgin is the "Best IRC client", the Pidgin devs don't even use it.
14:17:49 <clokep_work> Also shouldn't those all say "favorite" not "bets"?
14:17:52 <clokep_work> s/bets/best/
14:19:58 <flo-retina> best sounds like more research has been done, so it's probably better for a title of a crappy article ;)
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18:00:59 <dew> what's with that?
18:01:08 <dew> mercurial less popular than SVN?
18:02:23 <clokep_work> Almost everyone uses SVN still. ;)
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18:02:53 <flo-retina> or cvs ;)
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18:03:32 <dew> yes corporations use it mostly
18:03:54 <flo-retina> if they use it, there's no doubt that they do because it's the best ;)
18:03:55 <dew> but microsoft added git support to VS2013 :)
18:04:14 <dew> nah change is difficult
18:04:17 <dew> I used to work IT
18:04:35 <dew> people above me didn't want to use new things :/
18:05:01 <clokep_work> We offer CVS, SVN and git still. Not sure what the like percentage of each is.
18:05:07 <clokep_work> I use Mercurial for local stuff. :-D
18:05:35 <dew> I only prefer git because I'm more familiar
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20:09:33 <flo-retina> http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/lovebird-is-ready-for-beta-testing/ is interesting
20:09:42 <flo-retina> it reminds me of plans I had for Instantbird (add-ons?)
20:09:56 <flo-retina> that was related to the dynamic tag idea
20:10:57 <flo-retina> I wanted to be able to have a dynamic tag for "people I've talked to several times, who I haven't talked to in the last N days and who are currently available"
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