#instantbird log on 02 23 2013

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02:03:07 <clokep> aleth: Someone using $s in Twitter...makes showing my timeline painful. :D
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03:39:32 <instant-buildbot> build #789 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/789
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04:31:22 <instant-buildbot> build #785 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/785
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05:49:32 <instant-buildbot> build #881 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/881
06:04:15 <Mook> flo-retina: hmm, bug 773648 might be interesting. (integrating a custom dns resolver instead of getaddrinfo)
06:06:32 <Mook> nothing seems to expose it to JS, though.
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06:19:11 <ariestiyansyah> Hello..
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06:22:10 <ariestiyansyah> ..
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07:24:00 <flo-retina> ariestiyansyah: hello. If you want to ask a question don't hesitate to do it :).
07:24:11 <flo-retina> ariestiyansyah: people may not reply immediately, but they will see it in the log
07:27:27 <ariestiyansyah> yeah. thanks, i follow this step https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Creating_a_new_localization_%28Mercurial%29
07:27:58 <ariestiyansyah> but when i run # python client.py checkout . always error
07:28:14 <ariestiyansyah> how much bandwidth to download the mozilla repo
07:30:14 <ariestiyansyah> is there are another way to start translate instantbird ?
07:30:54 <flo-retina> which locate are you interested in?
07:34:30 <flo-retina> Mook: thanks, I cc'ed myself
07:34:56 <flo-retina> Mook: there's no rationale for the change in the bug. Any idea of why they are doing that, and if it will simplify or complicate getting DNS SRV support?
07:35:16 <Mook> no idea what's going on there, you'll need to ask the folks involved
07:35:23 <flo-retina> ariestiyansyah: err, sorry, I meant "which locale". Just wondering if there's someone who has already started for the language you are interested in :)
07:35:29 <Mook> I just saw the bug scroll by in the super-reviews feed :p
07:35:45 <flo-retina> Mook: seems to be the same folks that were interested in dropping growl without explanation ;)
07:36:17 <Mook> flo-retina: as far as I know, that's "anybody actually working on any product named firefox" ;)
07:36:23 <ariestiyansyah> i already got permission from you flo-retina for indonesian translation
07:36:24 <ariestiyansyah> :D
07:36:31 <flo-retina> ariestiyansyah: oh cool
07:36:37 <Mook> (possibly including russian jet fighters)
07:36:47 <flo-retina> ariestiyansyah: I had a feeling it wasn't the first time I saw your nickname :)
07:36:59 <ariestiyansyah> hahah yes.. thanks.
07:37:07 <flo-retina> ariestiyansyah: so you really don't need to clone the whole mozilla source code to translate instantbird
07:37:32 <ariestiyansyah> tell me other way.. which file i cant start
07:37:46 <flo-retina> usually cloning your own repository (so that you can work on it!) and cloning the en-US repository (to have the original strings) should be enough
07:37:47 * ariestiyansyah really interest with instantbird feature
07:38:08 <flo-retina> the en-US repository is at http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/en-US/
07:39:17 <ariestiyansyah> so just clone using # hg clone http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/en-US/
07:39:30 <ariestiyansyah> and start to trasnlate that ?
07:46:42 <flo-retina> you shouldn't edit files there
07:46:50 <flo-retina> but that contains the en-US version of the files
07:46:58 <flo-retina> you should work in http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/id/
07:47:13 <flo-retina> err https://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/id/
07:50:38 <ariestiyansyah> yeah i clone id repo to my comp. and start translate this.
07:50:43 <ariestiyansyah> true ?
07:51:30 <flo-retina> you clone both repositories, and then you figure it out :)
07:51:34 <flo-retina> it shouldn't be difficult
07:52:01 <flo-retina> the en-US repository gives an example of what you need to end up with (for the directory structure and file names)
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07:54:31 <ariestiyansyah> yes, thanks.. its rally nice ^_^
07:54:39 <ariestiyansyah> nice to talk with you flo-retina 
07:55:20 <flo-retina> np :)
07:56:31 <ariestiyansyah> anyway, how about google summer code ?
07:56:38 <ariestiyansyah> actually 2013 :D
07:56:56 <flo-retina> what's your question about it?
07:57:28 <ariestiyansyah> i mean this post http://blog.instantbird.org/2013/02/google-summer-of-code-2013/
07:58:45 <flo-retina> that still doesn't look like a question
07:59:12 <flo-retina> and I think that post explained clearly what we had to say on the topic
07:59:18 <Mook> Ohh, oooh, ooh, I have a question!
07:59:29 <Mook> "what is ariestiyansyah's question?"
07:59:41 <flo-retina> Mook: :)
07:59:50 <ariestiyansyah> i mean plan of instantbird :D
07:59:56 <ariestiyansyah> sorry for typo.. hahaha
08:00:02 <ariestiyansyah> i just kid :P
08:00:22 <ariestiyansyah> not kidding, kid = child = young
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10:46:37 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2243 on bug 1881.
10:46:38 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2245 on bug 1881.
10:46:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1881 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Nick completion should add punctuation after complete nicks
10:47:38 <aleth> clokep upgrading to moz19 while skiing?! now that's dedication ;)
10:51:48 <flo-retina> maybe there's no snow? :-/
10:52:48 <flo-retina> aleth: apparently it's still right that one shouldn't look at the first 2 iterations of your patches ;)
10:55:36 <aleth> flo-retina: Hey, that was in response to feedback ;)
10:56:26 <aleth> Before you mentioned it and I tried it, I had thought the expected behaviour was different :D
10:57:11 <flo-retina> unit tests would be great for tab completion
10:57:15 <aleth> Tab complete really needs tests :-/
10:57:23 <flo-retina> heh :)
10:57:36 <aleth> indeed :)
10:58:35 <aleth> I certainly won't try to add "complete everything" without tests for what we have first.
11:01:47 <aleth> Any chance of some feedback on bug 1732 in the near future ;) ? I don't want to completely forget what I did there, and I have like three different versions of that patch.
11:01:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB
11:06:03 <flo-retina> sorry about that :(
11:06:32 <aleth> no problem!
11:06:56 <flo-retina> I'm not a fan of the appearance of these separators (https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=2211) but that could be dealt with in follow ups
11:07:07 <flo-retina> agreeing on the code is likely more important than bikeshedding the appearance
11:07:24 <aleth> Right. I wasn't sure about the appearance either btw
11:07:39 <aleth> But suggestions are welcome ;)
11:07:59 <flo-retina> I think I'll need to see it in action to have meaningful suggestions
11:08:30 <aleth> I'm more concerned about the questions in comment 1
11:08:45 <aleth> (and the code in general)
11:11:09 <flo-retina> what's places.properties used for?
11:11:25 <aleth> The strings for the months etc
11:12:35 <aleth> back in 15 mins
11:15:48 <flo-retina> what were the questions in comment 1? Is it just "in which string bundle should an error string go?" ?
11:16:14 <flo-retina> (not sure what that error string is; I haven't read all the code, and I probably shouldn't do it now :-/)
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11:18:05 <WOOHOO> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GML6KS1Gg4
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11:20:42 <WOOHOO> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GML6KS1Gg4
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11:27:45 <WOOHOO> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GML6KS1Gg4
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11:42:58 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes, I wasn't sure what string bundle to use for logger.js
11:44:13 <aleth> Btw I was surprised iteratorUtils.jsm was not in toolkit
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12:12:18 <flo-retina> aleth: I filed a bug to get it in toolkit
12:12:32 <aleth> flo-retina: :O just now?
12:12:37 <flo-retina> and it got stuck because the reviewer wanted to change the names of all the functions
12:12:48 <flo-retina> which didn't help me with getting chat stuff done in Tb
12:12:50 <aleth> Ah. One of those.
12:13:25 <flo-retina> btw, I'm not very responsive on IRC today because I'm doing some painting work in my kitchen, and that's not really compatible with touching a keyboard
12:13:30 * flo-retina just paused to take a photo
12:15:02 <aleth> If you're at the painting stage that must be good news :)
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12:26:27 <flo-retina> the kitchen has been mostly finished for weeks already
12:26:42 <flo-retina> but I didn't want to do the painting until the tilers were done fixing their mistakes
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15:59:55 <clokep> aleth, flo-retina: More of there's no NIGHT skiing there, so once I'm done for the day.
16:00:05 <clokep> (I had to cut my trip short though, I'm back home now.)
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16:00:14 <clokep> And Moz 19 failed when building vp8.
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16:19:50 <flo-retina> clokep: sorry to hear that; what happened that force you to cut your trip shjort?
16:20:14 <clokep> flo-retina: My family needed to go home.
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16:49:44 <flo-retina> would be useful to have a way to tell ib to make sounds for all incoming messages in one specific channel
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18:58:58 <clokep> So Instantbird shows the time between bubbles...but usually when I'm in a PM I'll have the last thing said, then xxx minutes, then a set of system messages where the other user goes idle and back like 50 times.
18:59:12 <clokep> The information I /really/ want is how much time since something was /said/.
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20:47:50 <Mic> Was there a reason why the "Add Contact"-dialog still asks for a group for the contact instead of a tag?
20:58:26 <flo-retina> hmm
20:58:30 <flo-retina> technically "group" is right
20:58:36 <flo-retina> but that's probably confusing
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21:21:24 <Night_Lover> hi
21:21:45 <Mic> Hi Night_Lover
21:21:58 <Night_Lover> is there any way to disable the show of the status changes in the chat window?
21:22:23 <Night_Lover> i dont want have this logged in the chat windows,
21:22:28 <Night_Lover> window*
21:28:07 <Mic> No, we don't have a setting for this. The (or a related) bug about this is: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440
21:28:10 <instantbot> Bug 440 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, MUC option: Hide certain system messages
21:28:56 <Mic> Might be easy to modify a theme not to show (ANY!) system messages though.
21:29:40 <Night_Lover> why the theme is not updated instantly
21:29:43 <Night_Lover> when i change it?
21:29:52 <Night_Lover> i must close the chat windows and open it again to see the changes
21:32:23 <Mic> Bug 302
21:32:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Dynamic theme switching
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