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00:31:55 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:35:56 <instant-buildbot> build #377 of linux-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/377 blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>, Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com> 00:37:39 <clokep> Yay, build failure! 00:38:17 <clokep> flo-retina: Looks like we need to update gtk on the Linux box? 00:45:53 <clokep> Ooo...apparently Google is "looking at" that iTeleport issue. :) 00:47:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 00:50:02 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:56:27 <Mook_as> say... just how invalid can xml be for google to accept? 00:56:34 <Mook_as> Can you send random close-elements? XD 00:59:03 <clokep> That I don't know... 01:10:51 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:38:28 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:42:08 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 01:57:15 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 02:24:23 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:52:40 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:59:46 <instant-buildbot> build #363 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/363 03:08:03 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 03:11:08 <instant-buildbot> build #777 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/777 04:27:27 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 04:32:48 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 04:42:25 <-- zen_monkey has left #instantbird (Saliendo) 04:46:57 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 05:29:19 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 05:44:49 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:45:30 <instant-buildbot> build #869 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/869 06:21:51 --> Kerris has joined #instantbird 06:22:02 <-- Kerris has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:25:44 --> Kerris has joined #instantbird 06:29:26 <-- Kerris has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:31:21 --> Kerris has joined #instantbird 06:34:07 <-- Kerris has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:36:41 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:45:57 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 06:46:16 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:51:01 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:51:39 <flo-retina> there's a thread about having pidgin-otr shipped by default on the Pidgin mailing list, and they seem interested in getting things interoperable with other clients, maybe we could find someone interested in getting otr to work in Instantbird? 06:52:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:58:36 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 07:04:39 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 07:05:08 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 07:11:59 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:12:16 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 07:14:05 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:22:55 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:27:50 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 07:37:07 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 07:37:14 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 07:37:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 07:51:06 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 08:15:31 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 08:18:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:18:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:20:44 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Output/input error) 08:21:05 <flo-retina> the cause of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=839873 is likely to also block several of our add-ons :( 08:21:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:21:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:21:26 <Mic> Yay! Mozilla 18 :) 08:25:46 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:33:40 <instant-buildbot> build #349 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception interrupted] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/349 blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>, Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com> 08:43:16 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Output/input error) 08:43:58 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:54:45 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 08:55:11 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 09:04:32 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 09:05:42 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 09:06:08 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 09:19:50 <flo-retina> building moz18 on our mac build slave takes 40min instead of 37min for moz17 09:20:35 <flo-retina> another 7 mozilla updates and it will take over an hour again to build :-/ 09:21:20 <-- dew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:21:44 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:21:44 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:39:32 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:39:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:49:42 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 09:50:10 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 10:06:01 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 10:11:08 <instant-buildbot> build #774 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/774 10:11:36 <aleth> :) 10:14:15 * flo-retina downloads the update 10:14:23 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:14:24 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:14:24 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:14:45 <flo-retina> "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:18.0) Gecko/20130213 Instantbird/1.4a1pre" :) 11:01:20 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 11:03:13 * aleth wonders if Textencoder/Textdecoder will be useful for something... 11:04:02 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:04:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:07:27 <Mic> clokep: thanks for the feedback on the topic bug. I'll try to get it working as an add-on first. Are you really concerned about non-programming folks getting confused by this? 11:17:02 <clokep> Mic: Would your mother be able to figure out what all that red text and crossed out text means? 11:17:39 <clokep> flo-retina: I was thinking the same thing (re OTR). 11:24:10 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 11:27:32 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:27:39 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:27:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:30:40 <clokep> Yay, Gecko 18! 11:37:39 <flo-retina> clokep: "do we think this bites us anywhere else?" I'm pretty sure it breaks all the Ib add-ons that replace methods inside tabbrowser.xml 11:37:59 <clokep> flo-retina: Do we have a lot of those? 11:38:08 <clokep> I'm pretty sure it will break my sort-by-status add-on. 11:38:21 <clokep> aleth: TextEncoder/Decoder? 11:38:37 <clokep> Is that something new in 18? 11:39:02 <aleth> clokep: yes, http://encoding.spec.whatwg.org/#api 11:39:15 * clokep dislikes getting links to specs. :( 11:39:28 <aleth> No mdn docs exist yet it seems 11:40:17 <clokep> It looks like it /could/ be useful... 11:40:46 <clokep> But I'd have to play w/ it first. :) 11:41:12 <aleth> Right, it's not too clear what the uses/advantages/disadvantages are... 11:41:41 <flo-retina> colorize, show nick, highlight, and maybe others do that 11:48:44 <clokep> :( 11:53:32 <clokep> flo-retina: So the guy that gave a bunch of information in the OTR bug is the same guy that's emailed Pidgin about OTR. 12:06:04 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:37:20 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 12:37:53 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 12:45:49 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Output/input error) 13:07:25 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:07:26 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:15:39 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:15:49 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:15:49 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:37:07 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 13:41:24 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:48:51 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:48:51 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:51:08 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 13:51:18 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:52:49 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:52:54 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Mic) 13:54:58 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:54:58 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:19:33 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 14:19:59 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 14:21:36 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:21:51 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:21:57 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 14:22:25 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 14:32:40 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 14:35:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:37:48 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 14:37:52 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:01:03 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:02:42 <clokep_work> So the issue tracker to oftc-hybrid (Freenode's server?) that bug 1292 links to apparently was deleted... :( 15:02:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1292 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Freenode SSL reconnection issues 15:03:57 <flo-retina> they decided trac wasn't painful enough, and moved to github? 15:06:49 <clokep_work> Without moving their tickets it seems? 15:07:01 <clokep_work> Also, does anyone else find it really frustrating trying to search a single github project's code? 15:07:07 <clokep_work> It's possible now, but I have to jump through like 40 hoops. 15:08:52 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the best way seems to be "git clone" followed by "grep -R" 15:09:09 --> dew has joined #instantbird 15:09:10 <flo-retina> clokep_work: github seems to me like a fantastic place to hide code while pretending it's open source ;). 15:11:52 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes. And I'm really tired of people saying "You should use git because of GitHub!" 15:12:30 * flo-retina too 15:12:38 <flo-retina> also valid with only "I'm really tired of people" by the way. 15:13:18 <flo-retina> especially true these days with all the delays in the renovation work... 15:13:43 <clokep_work> :( Hopefully soon! 15:14:00 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:14:14 <flo-retina> I got up early (by my standards) this morning to welcome the plumbers that needed to come to finish the shower. They said they would come between 8 and 8:30am. They showed up at 2pm, and didn't answer any of my phone calls before that because "oops, we forgot the phone at home" 15:16:06 <flo-retina> and this is how the entrance looks now that the tilers tried and removed the stone under the door (they wanted to replace it because the existing one was slightly too small) http://queze.net/goinfre/maison/entree.jpg 15:16:32 <clokep_work> :-/ 15:16:41 <clokep_work> I'm sure it'll all work out...eventually... 15:17:03 <flo-retina> sure. Eventually :) 15:17:13 <flo-retina> they are supposed to come and fix that wall either tomorrow or Friday 15:20:32 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 15:20:58 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 15:34:00 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:35:00 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:35:29 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 15:35:56 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 15:42:39 <clokep_work> Pidgin 2.10.7 was released. 16:17:25 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:29:50 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:36:23 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:36:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:43:52 <aleth> flo-retina: interesting thought about hiding code on github, their design does make more sense if you take that as the objective ;) 16:45:03 * aleth suspects github grew because it's very easy to set up a new project... and then you're pretty much stuck with it. 16:45:41 <flo-retina> aleth: pretending it's open source is important though ;) 16:46:04 <flo-retina> and not enforcing licensing, so that code there is unusable is also "interesting" 16:46:21 <aleth> good point 16:46:46 <flo-retina> aleth: hmm, well, now that I think of it, github's business model is to have people pay when they want to hide their code. So the free version may just be code hidden in a public way :-D. 16:48:17 <aleth> Hmm yeah, it's designed for the paid use case I guess :P 16:49:47 <flo-retina> although making the "public" code easier to find should give a bigger intensive to pay for hiding :-S 16:50:46 <aleth> ooh, machiavellian ;) 16:51:04 <aleth> And even paid users would appreciate decent search. 16:51:37 <flo-retina> right, so there's just no excuse for the poor search then :-D 16:52:00 <aleth> I suppose one would have to ask people who actually like the site... I've never really understood the appeal. 16:52:04 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 16:52:51 <aleth> Good luck with the renovations! 16:52:57 <flo-retina> aleth: I think, like for most poor technologies that people do use everyday, the appeal is in the other people already using it 16:53:06 <flo-retina> otherwise nobody would want to be talking over MSN or facebook chat ;). 16:54:33 <aleth> flo-retina: That's probably it... just use what "everybody" is using. After they switched from sourceforge which was not much different really 16:55:03 <flo-retina> sourceforge was probably much worse 16:56:58 <aleth> Probably 16:57:08 * aleth thought tilers would work inside the house, not remove half the outside wall ;) 16:57:22 <clokep_work> I always enjoyed Google Code, personally. 16:59:26 <flo-retina> aleth: well, one can always have surprises with tilers ;) 17:01:17 <flo-retina> aleth: there was a stone looking at bit like this one http://img8.bricozone.be/23634f0876c558bb6.jpg 17:01:40 <flo-retina> aleth: and like on this photo, the stone was 15cm under the wall on both sides. 17:03:49 <aleth> flo-retina: Oh, I see. Put in before the wall was built on top... 17:04:22 <flo-retina> possibly 17:05:02 <flo-retina> not sure if I have a good photo of how poor it looked before (it's definitively worse now of course :-D) 17:05:54 <aleth> Hmm right, on the photo for example there's a visible vertical seam 17:06:06 * aleth hopes the tilers are also good bricklayers then ;) 17:07:05 <flo-retina> aleth: but the stone on that photo is good (there's no reason to change it, and it's likely a new one actually) 17:13:22 <flo-retina> Here's a screenshot from Google Street view of how it looked before: there was a gap between the stone and the door, and the stone wasn't really horizontal. http://i3.minus.com/i8zohXDjtPPeV.png 17:18:43 <aleth> I'm sure it will look great when it's finished :) 17:20:21 <flo-retina> my hope (for the stone) is that it will look correct enough that people will never notice it even exists 17:21:01 <aleth> and no draughty gaps ;) 17:21:22 <flo-retina> it shouldn't look too good. It's awkward if when you open the door people are busy looking at what's under their feet :-D 17:23:32 <aleth> true :D no mosaics among the tiles then... ;) 17:24:17 <flo-retina> http://queze.net/goinfre/SalleDeBain/IMG_5980.jpg will be enough for the mosaics ;) 17:27:01 * aleth is relieved there is no qrcode there ;) 17:33:52 <flo-retina> you mean as a captcha for the alarm clock? 17:34:28 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Did you say you're not reading logs anymore? 17:34:47 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I said I'm not doing it everyday any more 17:34:56 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I still sometimes read them 17:35:09 <flo-retina> whyN 17:35:11 <flo-retina> ? 17:35:54 <clokep_work> Was just curious if you had seen http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m4, apparently Google is actually looking into the iTeleport stuff. 17:36:24 <flo-retina> that wasn't in the log, I was actually connected 17:36:28 <flo-retina> just sleeping 17:36:36 <flo-retina> so I read the scrollback this morning 17:38:20 <clokep_work> Oh. OK! 17:38:40 <clokep_work> Anyway, I was surprised that they seemed to care...but good for us 17:39:56 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:42:48 <flo-retina> did they say they are going to look into it, or did they say something that shows they actually did look into it? 17:43:57 <clokep_work> flo-retina: "@clokep, this is getting attention. Thanks for the report." 17:49:36 <flo-retina> :) 18:04:51 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 18:35:27 * clokep_work wonders how hard it would be to fix bug 840... 18:35:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=840 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Set to "away" automatically when locking the OS. 18:37:41 <Mook_as> \o/ progress on the thunderbird bug 18:37:48 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 18:51:04 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:54:10 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]) 18:59:55 <dew> which bug Mook_as? 19:03:59 <Mook_as> bug 839873 19:04:40 <Mook_as> I have no idea why I can't find it with prod:thun compo:instant delta:2d :( 19:25:40 <clokep_work> Mook_as: That bug is probably just waiting check-in? 19:26:02 <Mook_as> probably, but I'm just happy to see progress XD 19:26:10 <Mook_as> I can turn on updates again! 19:43:11 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:50:49 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:21:08 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Until they remove nsSupportsArray and then everything breaks again? ;) 20:22:52 <Mook_as> hopefully ib isn't using it much... 20:23:07 <Mook_as> I don't think aceman will like a f- for that reason though :p 21:38:46 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:42:51 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 21:43:42 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе)) 21:44:02 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:03:12 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 22:03:52 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 22:23:36 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 22:26:12 <flo-retina> Mook_as: instantbird uses nsISupportsArray in only one place 22:31:19 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:34:57 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:34:57 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:44:02 <clokep> flo-retina: Any chance of cleaning out the checkin-needed queue otnight? :) 22:57:03 --> aulpu has joined #instantbird 22:57:20 <-- aulpu has left #instantbird () 22:58:34 <flo-retina> clokep: maybe 22:58:49 <flo-retina> I would have prefered to have a moz18 nightly on each OS before checking in more stuff 22:58:57 <flo-retina> but if the patches are trivial, they could go I guess 22:59:01 <clokep> Oh, right it failed on Linux. 22:59:02 <clokep> Sorry. 22:59:07 <clokep> There's nothing in particular I wanted from it. 22:59:10 <clokep> So...feel free to wait. 22:59:54 <flo-retina> I think I'll wait 23:01:39 <clokep> :) 23:07:24 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:33:18 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 23:34:24 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 23:34:48 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 23:34:49 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 23:58:46 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird